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While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. John 17:15 (KJV)
Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return: "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:" Matt. 24:29 (KJV)
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Gimel Israel
Yes Mike I believe this is our earth's last chance to repent before the judgment (tribulation comes like a snare).
However, regarding Elenin, it seems we are now pretty much on October 17 - October 18 2011 and everything is fine around the world, nothing really weird in the sky.
So, do you think all of these are hoax? I mean all elenin stuff? Why people keep posting that elenin still poses a danger on earth when nothing is there, no danger at all!!!
However, regarding Elenin, it seems we are now pretty much on October 17 - October 18 2011 and everything is fine around the world, nothing really weird in the sky.
So, do you think all of these are hoax? I mean all elenin stuff? Why people keep posting that elenin still poses a danger on earth when nothing is there, no danger at all!!!
Dearest Gimel, I agree with Bob and all who loves God's Word
"For we know that [right now] the whole creation [Heaven&Earth] groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. For we are saved by hope..."Romans8:22-24a
Could there be a PERFECT CALM...PEACE or JOY during this FESTIVAL[FeAST of TABERNACLES] before PREFECT STORM...WAR or MOURNING?
Could ELEnin JPL be REALLY the SPACE-ARK which is a MOUNTAIN of GOD and not having the Gravity anticipated?
Do you believe that Kepler Scope really took the photo of Super-Earth with DoubleSun[Sun+DwarfStar] on 16thSep2011?
Is this kepler scope a few degree[day] away behind Earth?
Could it be that the Sun's electro-magnetic-gravitational force-field has INTEGRATED with the NIBIRU-DWARF-STAR-85512?
Could the whole World be preparing for war of the WORLDs with Super-Earth-85512b?
China has just sent out their SPACE STATION called "Heavenly Palace1" to view this SPACE-ARK-CITY-OF-GOD-Heavenly-Palace"
Why spend billions of dollars while the SUN is having SOLAR MAX and >7 SUN-SPOTS? 'Signs in the 'SKY'?
The world is not fine...
I was in front of a bus shelter and saw a number of SIGN-POSTs pointing to the new underground MRT(MassRapidTransit) station 590m away which has a yellow triangular sign "THE SHELTER"
I went down to 1 of the MRT stations which are all nearby the coastal areas and was feeling this earthquake feelings causing me to be giddy.
Fyi, Singapore is busy digging many more underground stations...
Even Russia has prepared 5000bunkers and announced the PlanetX Nibiru.
Rise of Islam, Increasing Anti-semitism, growing Iran-Israel tension and many more in middle-east is surely not dragging any longer...agree?
Thailand has just experience 75% flood and it is many times the size of Singapore...which Singaporeans are not aware of too...even our government warned us not to go Thailand.
Thailand is major food supplier of rice which is being destroyed and strangely food prices are contained in Singapore...people still eating and drinking like Noah's time...
World is preparing for Halloween while Christians preparing for Christmas.
World is still enjoying faster internet access, faster phones, faster travellings...while earthquakes, volcanoes, disasters are increasing?
World Economy is still SURVIVING MIRACLOUSLY?
Do we see ALL RAPTURE PROPHECIES CONCURRENTLY FULFILL this YEAR?
So how could we be soooo faaarrr oooffff?
Gimel Israel
Yes Mike I believe this is our earth's last chance to repent before the judgment (tribulation comes like a snare).
However, regarding Elenin, it seems we are now pretty much on October 17 - October 18 2011 and everything is fine around the world, nothing really weird in the sky.
So, do you think all of these are hoax? I mean all elenin stuff? Why people keep posting that elenin still poses a danger on earth when nothing is there, no danger at all!!!
However, regarding Elenin, it seems we are now pretty much on October 17 - October 18 2011 and everything is fine around the world, nothing really weird in the sky.
So, do you think all of these are hoax? I mean all elenin stuff? Why people keep posting that elenin still poses a danger on earth when nothing is there, no danger at all!!!
mike
Dearest Gimel, I agree with Bob and all who loves God's Word
"For we know that [right now] the whole creation [Heaven&Earth] groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. For we are saved by hope..."Romans8:22-24a
Could there be a PERFECT CALM...PEACE or JOY during this FESTIVAL[FeAST of TABERNACLES] before PREFECT STORM...WAR or MOURNING?
Could ELEnin JPL be REALLY the SPACE-ARK which is a MOUNTAIN of GOD and not having the Gravity anticipated?
Do you believe that Kepler Scope really took the photo of Super-Earth with DoubleSun[Sun+DwarfStar] on 16thSep2011?
Is this kepler scope a few degree[day] away behind Earth?
Could it be that the Sun's electro-magnetic-gravitational force-field has INTEGRATED with the NIBIRU-DWARF-STAR-85512?
Could the whole World be preparing for war of the WORLDs with Super-Earth-85512b?
China has just sent out their SPACE STATION called "Heavenly Palace1" to view this SPACE-ARK-CITY-OF-GOD-Heavenly-Palace"
Why spend billions of dollars while the SUN is having SOLAR MAX and >7 SUN-SPOTS? 'Signs in the 'SKY'?
The world is not fine...
I was in front of a bus shelter and saw a number of SIGN-POSTs pointing to the new underground MRT(MassRapidTransit) station 590m away which has a yellow triangular sign "THE SHELTER"
I went down to 1 of the MRT stations which are all nearby the coastal areas and was feeling this earthquake feelings causing me to be giddy.
Fyi, Singapore is busy digging many more underground stations...
Even Russia has prepared 5000bunkers and announced the PlanetX Nibiru.
Rise of Islam, Increasing Anti-semitism, growing Iran-Israel tension and many more in middle-east is surely not dragging any longer...agree?
Thailand has just experience 75% flood and it is many times the size of Singapore...which Singaporeans are not aware of too...even our government warned us not to go Thailand.
Thailand is major food supplier of rice which is being destroyed and strangely food prices are contained in Singapore...people still eating and drinking like Noah's time...
World is preparing for Halloween while Christians preparing for Christmas.
World is still enjoying faster internet access, faster phones, faster travellings...while earthquakes, volcanoes, disasters are increasing?
World Economy is still SURVIVING MIRACLOUSLY?
Do we see ALL RAPTURE PROPHECIES CONCURRENTLY FULFILL this YEAR?
So how could we be soooo faaarrr oooffff?
"For we know that [right now] the whole creation [Heaven&Earth] groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. For we are saved by hope..."Romans8:22-24a
Could there be a PERFECT CALM...PEACE or JOY during this FESTIVAL[FeAST of TABERNACLES] before PREFECT STORM...WAR or MOURNING?
Could ELEnin JPL be REALLY the SPACE-ARK which is a MOUNTAIN of GOD and not having the Gravity anticipated?
Do you believe that Kepler Scope really took the photo of Super-Earth with DoubleSun[Sun+DwarfStar] on 16thSep2011?
Is this kepler scope a few degree[day] away behind Earth?
Could it be that the Sun's electro-magnetic-gravitational force-field has INTEGRATED with the NIBIRU-DWARF-STAR-85512?
Could the whole World be preparing for war of the WORLDs with Super-Earth-85512b?
China has just sent out their SPACE STATION called "Heavenly Palace1" to view this SPACE-ARK-CITY-OF-GOD-Heavenly-Palace"
Why spend billions of dollars while the SUN is having SOLAR MAX and >7 SUN-SPOTS? 'Signs in the 'SKY'?
The world is not fine...
I was in front of a bus shelter and saw a number of SIGN-POSTs pointing to the new underground MRT(MassRapidTransit) station 590m away which has a yellow triangular sign "THE SHELTER"
I went down to 1 of the MRT stations which are all nearby the coastal areas and was feeling this earthquake feelings causing me to be giddy.
Fyi, Singapore is busy digging many more underground stations...
Even Russia has prepared 5000bunkers and announced the PlanetX Nibiru.
Rise of Islam, Increasing Anti-semitism, growing Iran-Israel tension and many more in middle-east is surely not dragging any longer...agree?
Thailand has just experience 75% flood and it is many times the size of Singapore...which Singaporeans are not aware of too...even our government warned us not to go Thailand.
Thailand is major food supplier of rice which is being destroyed and strangely food prices are contained in Singapore...people still eating and drinking like Noah's time...
World is preparing for Halloween while Christians preparing for Christmas.
World is still enjoying faster internet access, faster phones, faster travellings...while earthquakes, volcanoes, disasters are increasing?
World Economy is still SURVIVING MIRACLOUSLY?
Do we see ALL RAPTURE PROPHECIES CONCURRENTLY FULFILL this YEAR?
So how could we be soooo faaarrr oooffff?
I guess you're right, the world is not fine at all. Especially today with so many signs which bring me up again. That's our job to watch, watch means be alert and be ready at all times so we are not caught off guard.
Thank you for your encouragement.
Wow Steven
Joseph's time...
Joseph prepared 7years for Israel & the nations of that world
BUT that world was not prepared for the 7years famine.
Modern time...
The nations of this world prepared 7years
till 2011[from plentiful years of 2001till2008]
for famine years 2008till2015[7years Tribulation from 2012?]...
BUT the nations of this world were not prepared for Israel & 'Greater Joseph'[JESUS of The World to come]?
Hope the nations of this world will know that ONLY in
JESUS[YAHSHUA] the GREATER 'JOSEPH' who could PREPARE us for the GREAT FAMINE[Tribulation] YEARS
AND
Hope the nations of this world will BLESS ISRAEL GOD[YHWH]'s NATION.
Thank God[YHWH], JESUS[YAHSHUA] had prepared 7years for 
and bring us into HIS PREPARED LAND OF PROMISE[THAT-WORLD-SuperEarth85512b] soon 
GOD's WORLD is REVEALED!
JESUS is Coming in SUPER EARTH !
MANSIONS PREPARED in SPACE ARK: CITY OF GOD
CONFIRMED BY NASA's FINDINGS by Joining the DOTs
JESUS said:
"In my [JESUS] Father's house
are many mansions:
if it were not so,
I [JESUS] would have told you.
I [JESUS] go to prepare a place for you.
And if I [JESUS] go and prepare
a place for you,
I [JESUS] will come again,
and receive you unto myself;
that where I [JESUS] am,
there ye [you] may be also."
John:14:2,3
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" But these are written,
that ye (you) might believe
that Jesus is the Christ , the Son of God;
and that believing ye (you) might
have life through His name."
John 20:31
"...Believe on the Lord Jesus,
and thou (you) shalt be saved,
and thy (your) house (family) ."
Acts 16:31
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PART I
Note: I have been monitoring MrCometwatch about 3 times a day but saw this information on RFTH: credit to Calvin.
Calvin wrote:
After watching this NEW YouTube created by MrCometWatch describing
the collapse of the Arctic Vortex which shows what's causing the massive /
record spread of cold and snow, I believe that THIS IS A MAJOR SIGN OF
NOAH AND OUR "LEAVING" ON THE ARK!!! This disaster has affected as
many people as were affected from Hurricane Katrina.
In other words, we're having our own "type" vapor canopy collapse due to
the depletion of our ozone layer!!!!!!!!!!
Putting this ALL together with signs given to watchers, I believe these are
"our" SIGNS THE FLOODGATES / WINDOWS OF THE HEAVENS BEING OPENED!!!
the collapse of the Arctic Vortex which shows what's causing the massive /
record spread of cold and snow, I believe that THIS IS A MAJOR SIGN OF
NOAH AND OUR "LEAVING" ON THE ARK!!! This disaster has affected as
many people as were affected from Hurricane Katrina.
In other words, we're having our own "type" vapor canopy collapse due to
the depletion of our ozone layer!!!!!!!!!!
Putting this ALL together with signs given to watchers, I believe these are
"our" SIGNS THE FLOODGATES / WINDOWS OF THE HEAVENS BEING OPENED!!!
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3138553015&frmid=389&msgid=1190764&cmd=show
Artic Vortex In Trouble
From: MrCometwatch | Oct 31, 2011 | 305 views
Artic Cyclones could collaspe spreading intense Cold.
Make sure you have back up heat!
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Genesis chapter 1 v1: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth". God created TIME, heaven and an empty earth
3. A SUMMARY OF EVIDENCE SUPPORTING GENESIS
Genesis chapter 1 v1: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth". God created TIME, heaven and an empty earth.
1v5: "The evening and the morning were the first day". Emphatic repetition reinforces the fact that these were twenty four hour periods, NOT thousands or millions of years.
1v6: Dividing of the waters. Many creationists accept that a gaseous transparent water vapour canopy was placed around the earth (Fig. 1). This had the following results:
(A) Lethal cosmic rays were blocked from reaching the earth's surface.
(B) Heat from the sun would be dispersed uniformly. With a uniform temperature, there would be no high winds.
(C) No clouds or rain - watering of ground was by "streams from the earth".[2v6] This would explain the presence of coal found at South Pole and Spitzbergen.
Scientists cannot account for the amount of He3 in the atmosphere. Prof. Korff has said that it may have been "possibly generated by neutrons when it the atmosphere contained much more water vapour"!
Problems with WV Canopy are;
(A) The energy of falling would generate very great heat;
(B) Present cosmic ray level is low (but may have been much higher at Flood);
(C) To be stable and have reasonable living conditions, only 2ft of water could be held in the WV canopy. Creationists are working on these.
Gen. 1v11: Sudden creation. Numerous invertebrates appear suddenly in rock strata above Pre-Cambrian devoid of complex fossils. All species appear perfect, not half developed (Page 1, Fig. 1). They do NOT evolve into other species but only "after their kind".
1v14-19: Creation of Sun, Moon, stars, etc. No satisfactory explanation has ever been provided of how the planetary system came into existence by natural means:
(A) Each planet has the right speed for its distance from the sun to maintain a roughly circular orbit
(B) Origin of planets' and moons' angular momentum is unknown, as Sun has very little angular momentum.
(C) Planets have widely different compositions.
(D) Venus is slowly spinning in the OPPOSITE (retrograde) direction to its rotation round the sun, whilst Uranus' axis of spin is almost "horizontal".
(E) 11 of the 33 major moons circling the planets have retrograde orbits; i.e. they go round the planet in the opposite direction to the planet's orbit around the sun.
YOUNG AGE OF EARTH.
(A) Micrometeoric Dust Early measurements indicated that micro-meteoric dust is falling onto the earth at such a rate that if earth is supposedly 4,500M yrs old, then the depth of dust should be about 54 ft thick. Depth on Moon's surface gives an age in the order of only 10,000 yrs. The dust contains a percentage of Nickel, but tests show less than 10,000 years' worth of Nickel in the oceans.
Having said this, measurement of the amount is very difficult and a recent investigation indicates that it is much less than the early measurements. From this, the young age of the earth cannot be proven with this much smaller annual amount.
HOWEVER, other investigations show that the fine dust in the planetary system is subject to radial pressure from the sun's radiation (which blows it outwards), and there is a slowing down of larger particles (so that they spiral into the sun). This process should have swept the dust from the planetary system within 2.5 million years - yet it is still there, indicating that the age of the earth is less than this value.
(B) Moon This is still warm, has a magnetic field and suffers from moonquakes - all indicating a young age.
(C) Comets. They lose matter as they go round the sun, and short term comets should have disappeared in 10,000 years or so.
(D) Spiral arms of galactic nebula should have closed up in one-tenth of time of earth's age (which is supposed to be 4,500 million years).
(E) Sun's Shrinkage
(i)The Sun is shrinking in the order of 0.1% per century (Fig.) which is more than enough energy to provide the source of its enormous heat. If this rate of collapse were retrodicted into the past, the sun's orbit would have been equal to the diameter of the earth's orbit.
In view of its implications, this claim of a rapid rate of collapse has been disputed by orthodox scientists, but a careful examination of their criticisms shows them to be unsatisfactory and "clutching at straws".
(ii)That the Sun's power (and that of other stars !) is NOT (all?) due to thermonuclear energy is confirmed by detection of only 1/3 expected number of neutrinos.
(F) Decrease in the earth's magnetic field.
The earth's magnetic field has been decreasing noticeably since first measured in 1835 (Fig. 3). With a half life of 1400 yrs, 10,000 yrs ago it would have had the power of a magnetic star. Therefore age of earth much less than this.
Gen.1:26: CREATION OF MAN There are no links between Man and the animals. (See "Ape-men: Fact or Fallacy?")
Gen.2:4: SECOND ACCOUNT OF CREATION This account is creation describing God's covenant with man in greater detail. It is NOT a conflicting second account of Creation by another author.
Gen.6:4: "Giants in the earth". Eighteen inch long human footprints have been found in Cretaceous solidified mud in the bed of the Paluxy River in Texas, along with normal footprints and dinosaur prints. (These normal human prints are disputed at present, but final conclusions have not yet been published)
7v11: NOAH'S FLOOD. "Fountains of deep broken and windows of heaven opened" Collapse of Water Vapour Canopy which would produce torrential rain.
Most of the Flood water came from the "fountains of the deep". We maintain that the vast majority of the strata deposited during the Flood was material dissolved in hydrothermal (supercritical) water. This poured out over the land to provide great depths of pure clays, sands etc. There would not have been enough time in the one year of the Flood to erode mountains to provide the vast volumes of clays ans sands etc. now found in the strata.
THE GEOLOGICAL STRATA
(A) Animals often found entombed in an attitude of fear - head back, mouth open, fins, wings extended etc. This indicates they were overwhelmed in a rapid inundation.
(B) Fossils sometimes found with scales and skin still visible. Fossilisation requires rapid inundation. Today, bones just disintegrate. Fossil sequence in geological strata show:
(i) INVERTEBRATES (slow moving marine animals) would perish first followed by the more mobile fishes who would be overwhelmed by the flood silt
(ii) AMPHIBIA (close to the sea) would perish next as the waters rose.
(iii) REPTILES (slow moving land animals) next to die.
(iv) MAMMALS could flee from rising water, the larger, faster ones surviving the longest.
(v) MAN would exercise most ingenuity - clinging to logs, etc. to escape the flood.
This sequence is a perfectly satisfactory explanation of the order in which the various fossils are found in the strata. It is NOT the order in which they evolved but the order in which they were inundated at the time of Noah's flood. There are many 'anomalies' in the geological sequence (e.gú many insects are identical to those existing today) which are far better explained by the creationist model than the millions of years required by evolution.
(Note; Upper layers may be Post-Flood strata. The geological strata are extremely complicated, and trying to interpret the whole sequence in a Biblical framework is extremely difficult. Creation geologists are still working on this problem.)
Gen. 9:13: "I set my bow to the clouds". The atmosphere now has clouds and raindrops and the first rainbow is now visible.
END OF PART 1
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
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"A Sign in the Heavens: The Ark Above on 11-24/25-2011"
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Dear Doves,
A partial solar eclipse, the last of 2011, will occur on 11-25, Black Friday between 6 and 8 UT, centered at 100 miles off Antartica, the South Pole. Greatest eclipse will be at 6:20 UT, which will be about 8 in the morning for Israel.
In the United States of America, it takes place when it is the evening of Thanksgiving Day on 11-24-2011. That evening at sunset begins THE LAST DAY of the Christian Liturgical Year and the LAST DAY of THE PENTECOST SEASON.
Some will begin Advent at Saturday services on 11-26-2011.
Calvin at Rapture Flight to Heaven has a photo of what it will look like. As the Sun seems to drop down over the Moon, a crescent is created which looks like a hollowed out circle. The shape will look like an ARK! At its greatest time of partial eclipse, the New Moon, which is at conjunction on 11-25, will obscure 90.5% of the Sun.
Will this be a Sign in the Heavens of the Ark Above, to alert those watching for the coming of the Lord to be ON BOARD THE ARK?
Remember, we are revisiting the Days of Noah, in the Anniversary Days of 40 days and nights of Cheshvan and Kislev when the rains fell and the deluge and flooding overtook the Earth after Cheshvan 17.
These days of 11-24 and 25 will be Cheshvan 27 and 28. It was Cheshvan 28, one year later, when the Noah family DEPARTED THE ARK! Might THE DEPARTURE at THE BLESSED HOPE be Cheshvan 27 or 28?
We shall see. "When you see these things begin to happen, lift up your heads and look up. Your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28. These are revisited Days of Noah to remember Luke 21:34-36. "Watch out! Don't let your hearts be dulled by carousing and drunkenness, and by the cares of this life.
Don't let that day catch you unaware, like a trap. For that day will come upon everyone living on the earth. Keep alert at all times. And pray that you may be strong enough to escape these coming horrors and stand before the Son of Man."
We should remember Matthew 24:37-39. "When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah's day. In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat.
People did not realize what was going to happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is the way it will be when the Son of Man comes." Verse 44 informs us "he will come at a time least expected." Might the ending of the Dispensation of The Age of Grace and the spiritually symbolic snare of the fowler be just ahead?
We shall see.
With Love and Shalom,
Jean
ANTARCTIC SOLAR ECLIPSE: On Nov. 25th the Moon will pass in front of the sun, slightly off-center, producing a partial solar eclipse visible from Antarctica, Tasmania, and parts of South Africa and New Zealand. An animated map created by graphic artist Larry Koehn shows the eclipse unfolding across the southern end of our planet:
Click on this link
Maximum coverage occurs about 100 miles off the coast of Antarctica where the sun will appear to be a slender 9% crescent. Observers in the eclipse zone should be alert for crescent-shaped shadows and sunbeams. The sun-dappled ground beneath leafy trees is a good place to look. Of course that won't work in Antarctica where trees are scarce. Observers there should use safe solar filters to witness the crescent sun itself.
Our Moon for Friday evening, November 25th, 45 minutes after sunset among the planets Venus & Mercury. This is a one day old moon following the partial eclipse of the sun (new moon) on Thursday.
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Partial Eclipse of the Sun November 25, 2011
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Luis Vega (24 Nov 2011)
"2012: The Coming Celestial War?"
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2012: The Coming Celestial War
In Preparation for the Casting Down Of Lucifer to Earth?
By Luis B. Vega
vegapost@hotmail.com
Online Chart at: http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/2012.pdf
He (Christ) replied, "I saw satan fall like lightning from Heaven. -Luke 10:18
‘Therefore rejoice, you heavens, and YOU that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knows that he hath but a short time left.’ -Revelation 12:12
Preface:
In making the Solar & Lunar Eclipse chart for 2012, there are 2 Solar Eclipses that are not listed on NASA’s website where I get the information off of. I am not sure if this is an oversight or just not accurate. I was made aware of this omission because several star-tracking software programs like Starry Night & Stellarium do confirm that 2 Partial Solar Eclipses are to occur on Dec 24, 2011 & on Dec 12, 2012.
The purpose of this chart is to ascertain the coming Solar & Lunar Eclipses for 2012. A timeline will be used to plot the Eclipses, Solar & Lunar ones. The Eclipses will be diagramed against the corresponding constellations they will occur in. A day-count will be given to measure the time between key dates for 2012. There are many anticipated speculations as to what will occur during 2012; many are from esoteric, political, spiritual & prophetic points of view. Regardless, the significance of Dec 21, 2012 in particular is subject to on-going dispute & interpretation. Nonetheless I like to correlate several theories, in general as to what the Solar & Lunar Eclipses & their dates could possibly allude to. For illustration purposes only. No predictions are made.
Theories:
1.Earthly conflict mirrors the Heavenly Conflict.
The coming Solar & Lunar Eclipses of 2012 specifically could be the backdrop for a ‘stage’ of sorts that is being set up on Earth. It could be a possible correlation to an immanent conflict to soon occur. This conflict may have not only an Earthly manifestation but a corresponding Heavenly one as well. The 2 may not be mutually exclusive in the coming year or years ahead. At any given moment, there are over 100 armed movements around the world. What is peculiar is that Israel’s period of major Earthly warfare have mirrored celestial occurrences in the past, such as with the Tetrads & Blood Moons on Feast Days. Thus the probability of future Earthy-to-Celestial corresponding warfare could also be based on these Solar & Lunar Eclipses. One fact is sure, satanic influences on human endeavors specifically related to both spiritual & physical warfare of God’s people, as with Israel are well documented in the Bible. As Israel is now surrounded by hostile Muslim nations bent on its destruction, we are headed to an inevitable major military confrontation. The Bible does give us a glimpse of what has happened in light of the Heavenly Rebellion of lucifer & his fallen angels as it has related to Israel; there is on-going Celestial War happening. There is a war out there in the Heavens that is about to spill over into our human time & space. Israel & ‘Earthly’ Jerusalem will be the eye of the storm. Could the Eclipses of 2012 signal a spiritual confrontational counterpart functioning as time-markers? We don’t see in whole but in part, yet what we can ascertain is enough to paint a picture of what is & will transpire in the near future regarding this conflict.
We do know that satan does influence Earthly military endeavors of people & nations. You have King David numbering his men due to satan’s prompting. You have an angel quarreling with lucifer over Moses’ bones etc. You have Elisha & the Angelic Army surrounding the city. In 2 Kings 6:8-23, Sennacherib’s army is decimated by the Angels. Joshua encounters a powerful military Angel Commander as an Angelic army is marching, parallels to Joshua’s/Hebrews as they travel to the Promised Land. Then you have the 4 Angels at the Euphrates making way for the Asian 2 million-man army that will descend on Israel at a specific future time. It is very interesting that as with Daniel, during Israel’s 70-Year captivity in Babylon-Medo-Persia, the Prince of Persia is alive & well in these Last Days. It appears that the struggle/conflict is once again upon Israel with this Prince of Persia (Principalities & Powers) –being against God’s Earthly People as it was in the past. With the speculation of immanent war in the Middle East & an Israeli strike on a Nuclear Iran or vice-versa, it appears that the prophecies of the Bible are lining up. Could these Eclipses be the sounding of the alarm? Interestingly, not only is Israel under pressure to act militarily to stop Iran from going nuclear but so are 90% of all the Sunni Muslims & especially Saudi Arabia. SA is currently being encircled by Muslim fundamentalism from Egypt, Libya, Yemen, & Iran. These are Shi’ite followers & hard-liners sympathetic to Tehran. So too are they sensing & being threatened by this radical Islamic version of Islam. This interpretation ascribes to the prophecy that the final 12th Imam is soon to appear on the scene. So too with Maitreya, Kukulkan…etc. When? In 2012.
2.The Rapture of the Saints appears to take place before satan is cast down to Earth.
When will this possible immanent Earth-to-Heaven conflict occur? There are many insightful postulations. Will it be at the beginning of the Tribulation or at the point of the indwelling of the Anti-Christ-possibly at the mid-point? Could these coming Solar & Lunar Eclipses be a clue or signpost of when it could possibly start? What is interesting is that Revelation 12:12 might give us a clue. I would put forth that the “YOU” from Revelation 12:12 could possible allude to the Raptured Saints already in Glory when this could happen on Earth. This could have taken place at the point when either lucifer is cast down or just beforehand. It states that those that are in heaven are rejoicing that Satan has been cast out but the inhibiter’s of the earth must now face his wrath. This could be when lucifer is given complete power for 42 months. Rev 13:5 tells us: “And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue
for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven.” I believe that the LORD has to cleanse Heaven of lucifer’s defilement & rid of satan himself for His Bride to have room & abide in. There can be no room for both. Judicially, satan does have rights & access to the LORD’s Court Room now but at the point of satan’s ejection, there will be a conflict that relishes him down to the Earth. This is were the Rapture would possibly take place then after lucifer’s ejection but before he is then cast down to Earth. At that point in time, lucifer can never have access again to God’s Court Room to be the accuser of the Brethren anymore. At this point in time, satan is literally restricted to be only on earth but for a short time. He will be reaping havoc because he knows that his time is short. Satan’s target is the human race in general but he will do everything he can to fight against the LORD –that means going after the Remnants of Israel & Believers after the Rapture. This will be his last attempt to do a re-take of Nimrod to gather the Nations against His Annointed.>From Ezekiel 28:15 & Isaiah 14:12-17 we don’t know when this angelic conflict happened, possibly before time somewhere in the Council’s of God. Genesis 1:2 does hint though of this conflict/battle’s effect on the Creation & Earth. The wording in Hebrew of tohu wa bohu which is also used in Jeremiah 4:23 does describe the results -as if from a battle. We do know the reason behind the Rebellion of lucifer from Isaiah 9. Lucifer was created ‘perfect’ but not infallible. He too like Adam, was in a perfect sinless environment, yet he willfully chose to sin due to Pride. Ironically, the 5 “I Wills” in Isaiah 14:12-17 where Satan asserts his will thus culminate in the 5 levels of his decent. His judgment started the downward descent of the ‘Celestial Snake. With these Eclipses, we could be seeing the stage for the next scheduled one before lucifer is imprisoned & then cast into the Lake of Fire. He has gone from the position of Anointed Cherub that Covered the Throne of God to the Judicial Courts of Heaven (with 3rd Heaven), then to the Heavenlies (2nd Heaven Space/Air), then to the Earth. At which point –possibly is when the indwelling of the Anti-Christ takes place. This ’man’, whomever he will be will be killed. Most likely he will be assassinated. There will be a death & mimicked resurrection of this ‘man’. Could the Solar and/or Lunar Eclipses mark these turning points? Regardless, lucifer is in a downward spiral descent; then after the Great Tribulation, down to the Pit (for a 1000 years); then ultimately down to the Lake of Fire thereafter.
3. What is so special about 2012?
The appearance of the Sun rising into the Center region of our Galaxy on Dec 21, 2012 is not a particularly unique event. The phenomena can be observed every Winter Solstice. The only interesting aspect of this 2012 year is that the sun will appear to enter the Dark Rift. It is considered to have reached a sort of “Re-birth” position. The universe is vast, with suns, planets, nebulas, galaxies all moving about. Eclipses happen frequently. True. So what is the big deal? Realize that the constellation’s imagery can only be seen from Earth vantage point. The LORD instructed us to heed them as ‘signs’. So, these Eclipses at certain years & dates are extremely significant. The Eclipses are then definitely ‘sing-posts.’
The constellations then do tell us a story as many studies attest. Having Solar and/or Lunar Eclipses on certain times within the constellation just emphases the spiritual meaning behind their connotation. They are like a picture taken of an event that requires attention & discernment. They are a highlight that is meant for us to take notice of. From the research of E.W. Bullinger, The Witness of the Stars, we can ascertain some spiritual meaning of what the Eclipses can possibly seem to be punctuating for us to consider. The Eclipse of Nov 25, 2011 happens in Scorpio. Scorpio is the arch-enemy. The Eclipse emphasize that the Enemy has been judged & thus has received the mortal wound by the Hero Sagittarius, (Antares is red). Venus, depicting a “Women” is with the Hero as Mercury is the Messenger delivers this omen.
The next Eclipse happens in Sagittarius on Dec 24, 2011. He is the Hero with a dual nature, the God-Man that has obtained the Crown (Corona Australis). Mercury delivers this message. The Eclipse of May 201, 2010 is in Taurus. Here we have a very interesting configuration. You have the King Planet Jupiter accompanied by a Messenger, Mercury on the scene with Venus at the heal of the Shepherd Auriga that is pierced by the Bull. As if saying it was for the “Woman” that he was wounded and the Eclipse is in direct conjunction beneath the Pleiades; the 7 Virgins. Is this the picture that the King along with His Messenger is coming for His “Woman” & Maidens? We’ll see. Next, the Eclipse of Nov 13, 2012 emphasizes that the Enemy, Scorpio is Judged, completely by Libra thus you have a total Solar Eclipse. Lastly, the Dec 12, 2012 Eclipse is unique in that almost all the Planets witness this event it seems. They are gathered to see that Ophiuchus, the Man that is in constant struggle with the Serpent is trying to usurp the Crown (Corona Borealis). Like Auriga, Scorpio has stung the Man at his heal in this consmic struggle. This is precisely where the Eclipse happens as if to punctuate that possibly the Serpent will be cast down but once on Earth, he will start his accent to power…perhaps the 42 months the Scriptures speak about?
The Science of 2012
The year 2012 will have 3 major Solar Eclipses, one on May 20, one in November 13 & one on December 13. The May 20 one is exactly 60 days from the Spring Equinox & is tied to the mystery of the Pleiades with the Mayan Calendar & eschatology. It is well documented that the Constellations are considered to be the ‘silent witness’ of the Gospel of Jesus Christ; the storyline of the Redeemer. (See Mazzorath). The place where & when the Eclipses take place then is very significant. Now as to the meaning & significance? Many have studied these topics & have ascribed such phenomena some valid assumptions. Blood Moons are evil for Israel, Solar Eclipses are evil for the Nations, Comets are omens of doom, etc.
Dec 21, 2012 will witness several conjunctions. You will have the Winter Solstice, our Sun entering the center region of the Galactic Equator & nearly all the planets will be in near conjunction. Could 2012 possibly be a prelude to the preparations of the eventual apparition of lucifer on Earth? Will 2012 be the year where the Anti-Christ is identified & put in position of power due to economic, political & religious vacuums due to the coming strife & turmoil in the world presently? Where & who will he be or from what nation he will come out of is subject to debate. One fact is for sure, it will happen & it will be a short-lived.
It has already been decreed…he will be ‘given 42 months’ of total power on Earth.
Aside from the hype of all the esoteric significance due in part by the Mayan/Aztec numerology & prophecies, 2012 will have some unique heavenly attributes that we should be taking note of. It is not rock science nor astrology. Foremost, will be the infamous December 21, 2012. It will happen to fall on the Winter Solstice. Looking at our Galaxy directly forward, you can imagine a line as a dissecting the Galactic equator. Our Earth then moves up and down this line in a sign-wave motion as we revolve around our Sun. The Sun & our Solar System is edging ever so close through the Galaxy. It will enter this ‘Dark Rift’ at exactly 11:11 am GMT on Dec 21, 2012. This is when the Sun will appear to enter into or near the part of sky referred to as the ‘Galactic Centre’ or the nuclear bulge or our Milky Way Galaxy. It is believed that is the location of the super-massive black hole that rotates at the center of the Galaxy. This is where many speculate that a pole shift might happen that could possibly cause massive tsunamis, earthquakes, & disasters etc. Due in part from myths & legends, every time the Earth has come to this point, a ‘transition’ or cataclysmic change has been known to have occurred. We shall see.
OBSERVATIONS:
- There are 4 Solar Eclipses starting from Nov 25 till Dec 21, 2012.
The Dec 24, 2011 & the Dec 12, 2011 are not documented on NASA’s website.
- There are exactly 178 days from the Nov 25, 2011 Partial Eclipse to the Nov 13, 2012 Partial Solar Eclipse.
29 days are between the Nov to Dec Eclipses.
- The Annular Eclipse of May 20, 2012 is exactly 60 days after the Spring Equinox.
It will be in conjunction to the Pleiades –related to Mayan eschatology.
- The Lunar Eclipses are 14 & 15 days apart from the corresponding Solar Eclipses, given the noted dates.
- From the Dec 10, 2011 Total Lunar Eclipse to the June 4, 2012 Partial Lunar Eclipse is also exactly 178 Days apart, as it is also to the one on Nov 28, 2012.
Steven
Hi Gimel,
I'm not sure anything is ready to be taken off the table.
Too many variables still in play.
Is Elenin the cause and effect of the earthquakes of
8.0 Chile
7.plus ChristChurch New Zealand
9.0 Japan
7.3 Fiji
Is there something following Elenin?
Nothing has been conclusively proven other than alot of disinformation and rabbit trails.
"Watch" is mentioned over 400 times in the bible about the the rapture of the church?
Has there been a cooling off of excitment and looking forward to the rapture?
Are world events moving and leading us to clearer picture of how the world will be when the rapture is to take place?
Is pre tribulation correct?
Is mid tribulation correct?
Is prewrath correct?
Is post tribulation correct?
Is a combination of the above correct?
Ron Reese correct?
Is Obama the anti christ to come?
Is occupy wall street another piece to the puzzle?
Is the world economy about to collapse?
Is the world religions of the world converging? (Islam, Christianity=Chrislam) Catholic ecumenical emerging?
Wars rumors of wars? ( Middle east war about to happen?)
Everything looks like it is all on the edge inching toward biblical prophecy.
I try to balance the threads I post in this site with a look at various sources of viewpoints and topics to bless us with information that will allow us to continue to grow in the blessed hope.
Keep looking UP!!!
Maranatha!!!
ybic
Steven
I'm not sure anything is ready to be taken off the table.
Too many variables still in play.
Is Elenin the cause and effect of the earthquakes of
8.0 Chile
7.plus ChristChurch New Zealand
9.0 Japan
7.3 Fiji
Is there something following Elenin?
Nothing has been conclusively proven other than alot of disinformation and rabbit trails.
"Watch" is mentioned over 400 times in the bible about the the rapture of the church?
Has there been a cooling off of excitment and looking forward to the rapture?
Are world events moving and leading us to clearer picture of how the world will be when the rapture is to take place?
Is pre tribulation correct?
Is mid tribulation correct?
Is prewrath correct?
Is post tribulation correct?
Is a combination of the above correct?
Ron Reese correct?
Is Obama the anti christ to come?
Is occupy wall street another piece to the puzzle?
Is the world economy about to collapse?
Is the world religions of the world converging? (Islam, Christianity=Chrislam) Catholic ecumenical emerging?
Wars rumors of wars? ( Middle east war about to happen?)
Everything looks like it is all on the edge inching toward biblical prophecy.
I try to balance the threads I post in this site with a look at various sources of viewpoints and topics to bless us with information that will allow us to continue to grow in the blessed hope.
Keep looking UP!!!
Maranatha!!!
ybic
Steven
Amen
Thanks Steven and this is why your Forum is Superior
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Gimel Israel
And this is the picture of heavenly cities captured by Hubble Telescope?
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My comments:-
Just inserting the Blocked Out Area of Google Sky and showing the 100micron photo of skyview.
NASA could have 1micron photo with much higher resolution photo which means that Gimel's photo could indeed be an actual image captured by hubble scope.
This is possibly the reason why google sky blocked out the area.
http://www.simplesite.com/7churches/43730261?i=45741864
If China has sent out space station named 'heavenly palace'[tian-gong1] literally meaning they saw this heavenly palace...note that no country would call a space-station a palace, agree? If they call it a palace...then the astronauts are kings???
I believe that China is also monitoring the REAL Heavenly Palace using this space-station and that is why China's news get excited with Earth's Twin...in 2nd sun...wow...
Now that Earth's Twin is confirmed...the world would really know that the DAY OF THE LORD JESUS IS NEAR!
Looking at the SKYVIEW photo...there surely seems to be 2 instead of 1 city of God...[Heavenly Palace]
Could it be that JESUS has LITERALLY PREPARED 2 CITIES OF GOD...1 FOR SUPER EARTH and the OTHER FOR this old EARTH?
Gemini means TWINs and Earth's Twin was ALSO GIVEN A CITY OF GOD?
Or say 1 SpaceArk[Heavenly Palace] for LEAH[CH.u.r.CH] and the other for RACHEL
?Hebrews:12:22: "But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem[FOR SUPER EARTH?],
and to an innumerable company of angels,"
Revelation:3:12: "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God,
and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God,
and the name of the city of my God,
which is new Jerusalem[for OLD EARTH?],
which cometh down out of heaven from my God:
and I will write upon him my new name."
Hebrews:11:16: "But now they desire a better country[Super Earth?],
that is, an heavenly[Super Earth]:
wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God:
for he hath prepared for them a city[for SUPER EARTH TOO?]."
Revelation:21:9,10: "And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying,
Come hither, I will shew thee the bride,
the Lamb's wife[CITY OF GOD FOR RACHEL?].
And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain,
and shewed me that great city,
the holy Jerusalem,
descending out of heaven from God,"
Revelation21 is City for Rachel
in This OLD EARTH?Hebrews11:16 is City for RAPTURED
in That NEW EARTH? AMEN!
AMEN!
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Comet Lovejoy looks like a CROSS approaching the SUN.
http://solarimg.org/
Rapid Electron Depletion..There is currently an electron and xray particle draw away from earth orbiting sats. it is being directed into Lovejoy. the electron monitors are dropping fast. that energy will be displaced somewhere.
Could LoveJoy Cause an X Class Flare?
Comet Lovejoy Update 12-15-11
You might be able to see Comet Loverjoy around Sunset. Comet Lovejoy also has a friend.
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Solar Status: Chance of M-Class flares from rotating sun spot
January 19, 2012 – CHANCE OF AURORAS: NOAA forecasters estimate a 15% to 20% chance of polar geomagnetic storms during the next 24 hours in response to a possible glancing blow from a CME. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras. Earth’s atmosphere has been puffing up in response to increasing levels of UV radiation from sunspots. This is good news for satellite operators, because a puffed up atmosphere helps clean up low-Earth orbit. Meanwhile, sunspot 1401 poses a threat for some M-class solar flares. –Space Watch
Solar wind
speed: 351.2 km/sec
density: 5.0 protons/cm3
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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"He Comes in a Cloud - A Strange Cloud is heading to earth"
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John, This is getting so exciting. I hope you can open this.
Doesn't it say something about Jesus Coming back in a cloud? Take a look at Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Look at this news in this article about an anominous cloud approaching and how the world's most famous pyramids are generation energy. NASA has tried to keep this quiet.
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1733/112/Worlds_Pyramids_Beaming_Energy_To_Mysterious_Space_Cloud.html
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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A comet meets
a globular cluster
Comet Garradd has a spectacular conjunction with a bright globular cluster in the early hours of the next two mornings ( 2/3 and 3/4 February ) when it passes around half a degree from M92 ( NGC 6341 ). This will be a fine observing and imaging opportunity and for once the weather forecast looks reasonable across the majority of the UK.
Comet Garradd passes close to M92 in Hercules over the next few nights. AN graphic by Greg Smye-Rumsby.
Comet Garradd ( 2009 P1 ) has been a feature in the night sky for a number of months now and has been resident in the constellation Hercules since late September. It has been steadily brightening as it closed in on the Sun, reaching perihelion in late December and it is now holding steady at around magnitude +7, unfortunately beyond naked eye range but an easy binocular and telescopic object. M92 ( R.A. 17h 17m 07.3s, Decl. +43° 08 ’ 11” ) is one of the finest globular clusters in the Northern Sky, shining at mag. +6.5 and spanning 14 arcminutes in size. It too will be an easy binocular object but will require apertures in excess of 100-mm to resolve individual stars.
Garradd is now circumpolar from the UK (always above the horizon, as is M92) but observers will have to wait until around 1am for the pair to attain a decent altitude of 20 degrees or so above the north-eastern horizon. It will be well worth the wait as recent images show the comet to be a spectacular object, exhibiting a bright nucleus roughly similar in size to M92, fan-shaped dust tail and a thin gas tail pointing almost directly away from the Sun. A waxing gibbous Moon is still up over in the west but sets around 5am on 3 Feb and 5.40am the next night.
The comet remains within five degrees of M92 until the 8/9 February as it continues to track north, moving into Draco in mid February, skirting Ursa Minor in early March whilst approaching closest to the Earth and then peaking in declination on 11 March at +71°. It remains circumpolar to the end of April when, hopefully it will still be an eight-magnitude object in Lynx.
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Comet Garradd to be brightest in mid-late February: museum
2012/02/11 21:28:30
Taipei, Feb.11 (CNA) The best observation opportunity for a comet that is approaching Earth will be Saturday until Feb. 24, when its visibility reaches its peak, according to the Taipei Astronomical Museum.
Comet C/2009 P1 (Garradd) will reach a magnitude of around 6 during the period, which means that anyone equipped with binoculars will be easily able tolocate it, assuming that the skies are clear of cloud, according to the museum.
Discovered in 2009 by an Australian observatory, Garradd will also pass close to
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Subject: Fw: Tom Tanner Correct interpretation of Daniel 9:25
Hello Tom, John and doves,
The 42 complete Hebraic Months Tom was referring to, will begin on September 17, 2012 and would end on February 8, 2016 or Shevat 29, 5776.
This is eight full months BEFORE 1/2 Tishri 5777 or October 3/4, 2016, which several of us in the prophetic arena are looking at as the end date of Daniels 69th week.
If it was '7 full months' before October 4, 2016, I may have been interested in the scenario, In Ezekiel 39:12-24 we read “color=red]For seven months[/u] the house of Israel will be burying them, in order to cleanse the land....”
Also, let us not get caught up in the "burning weapons for seven years" this will have no 'effect' in the Millennium because for one, Israels borders will be extended to where God has assigned them to be.
The 1000 years are going to be a lot more like today than many realize, their will be lightning strikes and fires will be lit for burning throughout those years, the Messiah will reign and people will be giving birth to children who will be tested by Satan when the 1000 years end.
Remember when this Gog/Magog attack occurs, these people of Ezekiel 38:8, whom I, along with others, believe will have come there on 'angels hands', Psalm 91:10-13, on Passover March 25, 2013, that begins an exact 1290 day timeline, fulfilling Daniel 12:11’s prophecy that counts out on October 3 or 4, 2016.
In other words we, the remnant in these following texts, will have been there a full 35 months of the 42 months Rev. 12:14-17, Isaiah 11:10-16, Jeremiah 23:3-8 and Ezekiel 20:33-38 before "Gog" tries to attack us.
As a matter of fact I believe the attack will come on Purim March 4/5, 2016, the true 'Haman's revenge' date, the "Persia" of Ezekiel 38:5
I have been studying and looking at the Hebraic 266 day 'birth pang' period to begin on July 2, 2012 and the birthing of the “remnant” by the woman, on March 25, 2013.
This following text out of Isaiah 7 may be hard for Christians to follow, because they have never been taught the difference between the 'house of Israel/Ephraim and the house of Judah/Jacob. The prophecy gurus of the 70's and 80's claimed those who "escaped Satan" and went into the wilderness in Revelation 12, were the "Jews".
Isaiah 14:1-2 makes it very clear that strangers are attached to them, while Paul explained it quite clearly WHO was "grafted" onto the branches!
A HIDDEN PROPHECY
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Isaiah 7:5 Because Syria, with Ephraim
and the son of Ramallah, has devised evil against you, saying, 6 "Let us go up against Judah [Israel today] and terrify it, and let us conquer it for ourselves, and set up the son of Tabeel as king [antichrist] in the midst of it," 7 thus says the Lord GOD: "'It shall not stand, and it shall not come to pass. 8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Resin. And within sixty-five years Ephraim [USA] will be shattered from being a people. 9 And the head of Ephraim is Samaria,[Washington DC] and the head of Samaria is the son of Ramallah [Obama]. If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all.'"
Those words above just flew off the text upon me, in other words we are going to be hard pressed and tested, think not what you should say but stand on the promises and TRUST THE FATHERS WORD if they come knocking on your door or question you along the way.
The 65th year of Daniels 70, began on September 29, 2011 and ends on September 16, 2012.
In other words is there an attack coming on our country anytime between today and September 16, 2012? Are March 30-July 2, 2012 the critical 'heads-up' days or will it be during the long hot days of summer that the promised "sudden destruction" comes?
Just look at this headline for a March 30, 2012 'red flag' day in Israel.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/153088#.T0bXOXkui9s
This date just happens to be exactly 266 days from the December 21, 2012 ending of the Mayan calendar that the 'Conspirators of Psalm 2:1-3' FOLLOW!
I could be wrong but I believe the 'second Exodus' will occur on A PASSOVER March 25, 2013 because I think Planet X has got to get a little closer to bring that "storm of the LORD" we are all to understand perfectly today? Jeremiah 23:19-20, Jeremiah 30:23-24 and Isaiah 28:2 for starters.
All things are possible with God and He may shorten it to Passover April 7, 2011, and with the looks of things in the Middle-East He may, but I believe things have to ratchet up in the sky?
Hang in there brothers and sisters, like the Disciples, were are going to be hard pressed and tested at least through a ‘gestation period’ of 266 days.
An 'honest Abe' from Australia, in the Southern Hemisphere has been following Nibiru for almost two years, you be the judge, this may convince you?
http://www.youtube.com/user/bluebeard2011?feature=watch
NIBIRU VISIBLE TO NAKED EYE NEAR BIG DIPPER
From: bluebeard2011 | Oct 19, 2011 | 7,857 views
PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT JUPITER AS JUIPTER is in direction of IC1791 and this is near big dipper jupiter cant be in two places at once and as there is a great distance between them its not jupiter yes jupiter has moons i know but i also know that its not jupiter i know where jupiter is exactly in night sky ok open your mind nay sayers
Giving Him the glory, an Ezekiel 33:6 watching one, REPENT the Kingdom of God and the authority of His Messiah is at hand
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Twin earthquakes rattle the globe on Spring Equinox
March 20, 2012 – WORLD – Two major earthquakes have struck the world within 6 minutes of each other. The earthquakes were a deep 6.2 magnitude earthquake near Papua, Indonesia and a much more shallow 7.6 magnitude earthquake which struck about 17.5 km (10.9 miles) deep near Oaxaca, Mexico. The Mexico earthquake’s epicenter was about 186 km (115 miles) from the popular resort area of Acapulco. –The Extinction Protocol
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7.6 magnitude earthquake strike near Oaxaca Mexico
March 20, 2012 – Mexico City (CNN) — A 7.6-magnitude earthquake hit Mexico Tuesday, the U.S. Geological Survey said. The earthquake’s epicenter was about 15 miles (25 km) east of Ometepec, Guerrero, the agency said, and its depth was about 11 miles (17 km). The agency earlier reported the magnitude of the quake at 7.9, but later revised that figure. Residents rushed into the streets after feeling the temblor in Mexico City. Tourists and residents also felt the earthquake in the resort city of Acapulco. Mexican President Felipe Calderon said in a Twitter post that there were no immediate reports of serious damage. In Mexico City, Mayor Marcelo Ebrard sent tweets saying that there was no visible damage in the capital and that the sprawling city’s strategic services and water system were functioning. Regardless, he tweeted, numerous buildings were being evacuated. -CNN
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
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US GOVT/NASA Hiding HMO Data
The US Govt/NASA are hiding very important and even critical data pointing to the fact that Earth magnetosphere is reversing to point directly back at the Sun. Remember that the HMO is inbound from the Leo Constellation directly opposite the Sun right now, which is more evidence that Earth is under the influence of a second heliosphere with an inner and outer reach of influence extending from the inbound HMO coming into the inner solar system for an orbit around our Sun.
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
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Spanish Astronomers Claim Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto
by Gary Vey for viewzone
The idea of a new planet being discovered in our Solar System is pretty exciting. Even more so because of the many theories about "planet-x" or "Nibiru" being associated with space aliens and the doomsday prophecies of 2012.
Scientists at places like NASA and famous observatories have deflected inquiries about the discovery for a few years now, mainly because they feared being associated with these "fringe" theories. But like it or not -- it has happened. Well... according to a team of Spanish artronomers who call themselves the StarViewer Team.
The group made the rounds of all the news web sites in the past two weeks, claiming they discovered something very significant. It's almost twice the size of Jupiter and just beyond our furthest planetoid, Pluto. Although it's not a planet, it appears to have planets or large satellites encircling it. It's what astronomers call a "brown dwarf star" and its official name is "G1.9".
What's a Brown Dwarf Star?
First we'll explain WHAT these astronomers have discovered. Then we'll discuss HOW they discovered it.
At the risk of being scientifically vague, I'll try to explain the current understanding of how stars and planets form in space.
All matter attracts other matter. A larger mass will attract smaller masses towards it. In space this results in growing clouds of matter that tend to clump together and attract more matter. Since most of the matter in space is gaseous, these clouds eventually get so dense that they collapse into dense gaseous spheres. When they do this there is usually some "left over" matter that forms a ring around the sphere.
If there is enough matter in a sphere of hydrogen, for example, it can cause so much compression at the shpere's core that the hydrogen atoms begin to fuse together and a fusion-reaction ignites a new born star. In this reaction two hydrogen atoms join together to form one helium atom and release extra energy as radiation.
Scientists believe that the minimum mass needed to ignite a sun is about 13 times the known mass of the planet Jupiter -- written as "13MJ." If the mass is lower than this, the pressure in the core is not enough to ignite and the sphere will be hot ball of gas called a "brown dwarf."
As a new star spins, the disk surrounding it gradually cools and the matter forms heavier elements like metals and minerals. These "rocks" eventually clump together and form solid spheres called planets.
Sometimes a solid sphere will attract some of the gas that is in the disk and this will result in a gaseous giant, like Jupiter and Saturn, which has a solid core but a thick gaseous atmosphere. These "gas giant" planets can be very massive but, because of their solid cores, they will never ignite and become stars.
This Brown Dwarf
This newly discovered "brown dwarf" is believed to have formed from the same condensed matter that gave birth to our Sun. It is believed that, after the large planets formed around the Sun, they pushed it to the edge of the Solar system where it formed a sphere about 1.9MJ -- well below the mass needed to ignite it as a "sun."
Nemesis
The theory of a companion sun is not new. It has often been described as Nemesis, after the Greek figure in mythology.
The mythological Nemesis was the spirit of divine retribution against those who succumb to hubris, vengeful fate personified as a remorseless goddess. The name Nemesis is related to the Greek word meaning "to give what is due".
Nemesis is now often used as a term to describe one's worst enemy, normally someone or something that is the exact opposite of oneself but is also somehow similar. For example, Professor Moriarty is frequently described as the nemesis of Sherlock Holmes.
"Opposite yet similar" is the perfect description for a companion to our Sun. But the name Nemesis also implies a sinister nature. Will this new Nemesis be beneficial or harmful to our lives?
Many suns that we observe in the galaxy are part of binary systems or double stars. There is debate about how two suns form from a single condensed cloud of matter. Some believe that they both form at the same time; others believe they split following the creation of one huge sun.
Sometimes both spheres are capable of fusion and both suns shine brightly, encircling each other around an imaginary point call the barycenter. Sometimes only one sun attains 13MJ and ignites, while its smaller companion, the brown dwarf, glows dimly and radiates heat. Astronomers usually can only see the brightest of the two, but because they both circle around a common barycenter, the wobble reveals the mass of the unseen companion.
We are close to our Sun and within its gravitational influence. So as we are travel through space, it appears to us that the G1.9 is moving in an elipse between our furthest planetoid, Pluto, and the edge of our Solar system, near the Oort Cloud
The newly discovered brown dwarf is reported to be located just about 60 to 66 AU (1 AU=the distance from the Sun to Earth) from us (its parigee), currently in the direction of the constellation Sagittarius. Because of periodic gravitational disturbances in areas of space further out, specifically in the Oort Cloud, the Spanish group of astronomers believe G1.9 travels in an elliptical orbit extending possibly hundreds of AU beyond the furthest known planets (its apogee). Its position just beyond Pluto suggests it is at its closest approach to the Sun and Earth.
Space appears relatively free of debris [see image above] inside the planetary orbits. This is because the gravitational pull of each planet (a large mass) effectively collects the interplanetary debris (small mass). But there are exceptions.
Belts of Debris
Between Mars and Jupiter you will see a ring of debris called The Asteroid Belt. It is believed that a planet once orbited in this area before it was pulverized by some type of impact. Many theorists believe this was caused by a rogue planet that entered the Solar System -- again hinting at the existence of some unknown member of our planetary system.
Beyond the furthest planetoid, Pluto, there is a large ring of debris called the Kuiper Belt. While the asteroid belt is composed primarily of rock and metal, the Kuiper belt objects are composed largely of frozen volatiles (termed "ices"), such as methane, ammonia and water.
As we get to the edge of the Solar System we enter another debris zone, the Oort Cloud. The Oort is not a band of debris but rather a spherical shell that surrounds the Solar System and extends out to the edge of the Sun's gravitational field. This region is thought to contain frozen clumps of water, methane, ethane, carbon monoxide and hydrogen cyanide. It's also the birth place of comets. However, the discovery of the object 1996-PW, an asteroid in an orbit more typical of a long-period comet, suggests that the cloud may also be home to rocky objects.
Debris "fly-paper"
Jupiter and Saturn are extremely massive and have such strong gravity that they attract meteors and comets entering the planetary zone of our Solar System. They protect smaller planets like our Earth from impacts, acting like a fly-paper for meteors, comets and asteroids.
In August of 2009, Jupiter captured a large asteroid that entered the planetary zone unexpectedly, despite the efforts of astronomers to track these dangerous objects. It is believed that this asteroid was perturbed by the trajectory of G1.9, which until now, was not recognized and accounted for.
Note: The dark spot [ top right] in the northern hemisphere of Jupiter where the asteroid impact was.
How it was discovered... the controversy
You might well ask why astronomers have never detected this object before. In fact they did. G1.9 was first identified as a "supernova remnant" in 1984 by Dave Green of the University of Cambridge and later studied in greater detail with NRAO's Very Large Array radio telescope in 1985. Because it was unusually small for a supernova it was thought to be young -- less than about 1000 years old.
But in 2007, X-ray observations made with NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory revealed that the object was much larger than the last time it was observed! It had grown in size by 16%. Puzzled by this observation, the Very Large Array repeated its observations of 23 years ago and verified that it had increased in size considerably. Knowing that supernova do not expand this quickly, unless they have just exploded, they explained that G1.9 must be a "very young" supernova -- perhaps not more than 150 years old. But no record of a visible supernova has been found corresponding to that historical period (about the time of the American Civil War).
Spanish astronomers have tracked this object with great interest because they were anticipating its appearance. Gravitational anomalies have been appearing in the Oort Cloud for some time, suggesting the perturbations were caused by a nearby object with considerable mass. The announcement that G1.9 had increased in size was no mystery to them. It is exactly what they would expect as the object moved closer to Earth.
The object, G1.9 [above right] is currently located in the direction of our Galaxy's center, Sagittarius, which glows bright in this infrared spectrum image. Because of the bright background G1.9 is not visible in normal light wavelengths.
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PART II continued in next post below
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Spanish Astronomers Claim Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto
by Gary Vey for viewzone
Of course there is controversy. The Spanish asrtonomers, who call themselves the "Starviewer Team" must still convince the scientific community that G.19 is not a supernova, but rather a brown dwarf star inside our Solar System. This is not an easy task. But we asked them to do just that for this article
The image [above] shows the evidence that the object has increased in size over the 23 years that it has been observed. On the left, the blue spherical shape was recorded in radio wavelengths in 1985 by the Very Large Array. The image on the right shows the same view taken in 2008. It is obvious that the object is larger, but critics say that this is not because the object is closer, but rather that the residual "shell" from the exploding star has advanced out from its origin. They note the shape is not spherical but consistent with the type of remnants usually seen with supernova.
In this image [above] we see the original 1985 radio emission image from VLA compared to the 2007 x-ray image taken by the Chandra Observatory. Critics again point to the lack of central imaging (i.e. where is the brown dwarf?) and question why orbiting planets would emit irregularly shaped x-rays.
We put these questions to the Starviewer Team.
(pending their response).
The image above was provided by the Starviewer Team. It shows the object G1.9 on the left and a known brown dwarf, Gilese 229A on the right. We are looking at microwave band emissions which indicate the radiated heat from each source. The dark red areas are the hottest. We note that G1.9 has a solid heat emission similar to Gilese 229A. The Starviewer Team seems to suggest that if G1.9 were really a supernova, we might expect that the spherical area would be cool, since the hot gas and ejecta from the exploding star would have been concentrated in the surrounding shell.
Scientists supporting the "supernova theory" remind us that the shell of a supernova is actually a sphere, meaning that the heat signature would appear circular. This supernova is also alleged to be very young -- about 150 years old -- so it would still be pretty hot. They ask us to view the heat signature os another supernova and provide an example of the infrared emission scan for Cygnus-Loop supernova below:
Spanish Astronomers Claim Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto
by Gary Vey for viewzone
Of course there is controversy. The Spanish asrtonomers, who call themselves the "Starviewer Team" must still convince the scientific community that G.19 is not a supernova, but rather a brown dwarf star inside our Solar System. This is not an easy task. But we asked them to do just that for this article.
The image [above] shows the evidence that the object has increased in size over the 23 years that it has been observed. On the left, the blue spherical shape was recorded in radio wavelengths in 1985 by the Very Large Array. The image on the right shows the same view taken in 2008. It is obvious that the object is larger, but critics say that this is not because the object is closer, but rather that the residual "shell" from the exploding star has advanced out from its origin. They note the shape is not spherical but consistent with the type of remnants usually seen with supernova.
In this image [above] we see the original 1985 radio emission image from VLA compared to the 2007 x-ray image taken by the Chandra Observatory. Critics again point to the lack of central imaging (i.e. where is the brown dwarf?) and question why orbiting planets would emit irregularly shaped x-rays.
We put these questions to the Starviewer Team.
(pending their response).
The image above was provided by the Starviewer Team. It shows the object G1.9 on the left and a known brown dwarf, Gilese 229A on the right. We are looking at microwave band emissions which indicate the radiated heat from each source. The dark red areas are the hottest. We note that G1.9 has a solid heat emission similar to Gilese 229A. The Starviewer Team seems to suggest that if G1.9 were really a supernova, we might expect that the spherical area would be cool, since the hot gas and ejecta from the exploding star would have been concentrated in the surrounding shell.
Scientists supporting the "supernova theory" remind us that the shell of a supernova is actually a sphere, meaning that the heat signature would appear circular. This supernova is also alleged to be very young -- about 150 years old -- so it would still be pretty hot. They ask us to view the heat signature os another supernova and provide an example of the infrared emission scan for Cygnus-Loop supernova below:
The scientists also remind us that the observations for G1.9 were made 23 years ago and the most recent observations show that the object has not moved significantly as an orbiting planet or brown dwarf would be expected to do. How do you explain this?
When we previewed this article to the Starviewer Team, we asked them to send us a rebuttal. We think we have focused on the Achillies Heel of their assertions. We waited for an answer and received the following statement, which was translated for us:
1.-Some self-motivated International committee of astronomers, by their own innitiative, are presently calculating the exact orbit for the Brown Dwarf Sagitarius-Oort-Kuiper perturbation, using the StarViewerTeam's work sheets based on Lissauer, Murray and Matese's original drafts. A final report, will be published by Feb 2010.
2.-There are huge scientific evidences concerning to the fact that Cosmic causes and Brown Dwarf are the real causes of Climate change. On July the 10th, Dr.Paul Clark, published on Science.com an article concerning to this matter, and almost 700 scientists signed the minority Report on climate change.
It appears the evidence is inferential and based on mathematics. So we must wait until February. I give this a validity rating (from 1 to 10) of 4.
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UPDATE FEBRUARY 19, 2010: -- We patiently waited and monitored the StarViewer Team's web site for the "proof" that claimed would be forthcoming. Needless to say, it never materialized. Also, the initial popularity of their claim appears to have been nothing more than a way to attract a large viewership. The web site now is full of ridiculous claims, including some satirical stories taken from "the onion" (a very funny site) which the SV Team promoted as "real." There is no mention of the mathematical validation that was expected with regards to the G1.9 object. Perhaps the validation disproved their theory... perhaps it was never going to be validated by anyone... I think it is safe to take this theory of object G1.9 being a brown dwarf down to ZERO possibility!
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Other Possibilities for Planet-X?
We'll mention one more, since it is the most popular one mentioned on the internet. It involved a statement made by some NASA scientists following the launch and retrieved data from IRAS, the infrared detection satellite that was launched back in 1983. A story ran in the Washington Post on December 30, 1983 with the headline, Possibly as Large as Jupiter; Mystery Heavenly Body Disccovered. Written by Thomas O'Toole it read as follows:
A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite.
So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby "protostar" that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through.
"All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is," Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist for California's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview.
The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 trillion miles. While that may seem like a great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone's throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto.
"If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system," said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University's Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the IRAS science team. "If it is that close, I don't know how the world's planetary scientists would even begin to classify it."
The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky from last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the supercold helium that allowed its telescope to see the coldest bodies in the heavens. The second observation took place six months after the first and suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky near the western edge of the constellation Orion in that time.
"This suggests it's not a comet because a comet would not be as large as the one we've observed and a comet would probably have moved," Houck said. "A planet may have moved if it were as close as 50 trillion miles but it could still be a more distant planet and not have moved in six months time."
I could go on and on about why this is not true. But a paper published by the same astrophysicists disclosed that the "mysterious object" was a distant galaxy -- one of the first of its kind to emit light in the infrared spectrum. The article, Unidentified IRAS sources -- Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies appeared in the Astrophysical Journal. Here is the abstract:
Abstract
Optical imaging and spectroscopy measurements were obtained for six of the high galactic latitude infrared sources reported by Houck, et al. (1984) from the IRAS survey to have no obvious optical counterparts on the POSS prints. All are identified with visually faint galaxies that have total luminosities in the range 5 x 10 to the 11th power stellar luminosity to 5 x 10 to the 12th power stellar luminosity. This luminosity emerges virtually entirely in the infrared. The origin of the luminosity, which is one to two orders of magnitude greater than that of normal galaxies, is not known at this time.
So what now? No Planet-X after all?
There's a lot of subtle fear with the approaching "doomsday" of 2012. We live in a world where the economies have failed, our governments have lied to us and there seems to be little hope. This fear is based, in part, on our collective "gut feeling" that something big and bad is on the event horizon. We sense it is something much bigger than our own obvious ineptitude at running the world. We look to space for the source of this catastrophe.
Our interest in Planet-X was first triggered by the writings of Zecharia Sitchin, whose translations and interpretations of the oldest known civilization, the Sumerians, gave us a cosmology that included what he called "The Twelfth Planet."
Sitchin's work with ancient texts, specifically the Enumma Elish, is brilliant. The cosmology includes an extra, as yet undiscovered planet, which is similar to the descriptions used by NASA and the Starviewer Team. This planet is in an eliptical orbit with a "year" equal to an amazing 3600 earth years. This long orbit is why the planet -- called Nibiru by the ancients -- has eluded observation with current telescopes and satellites.
Embedded with the cosmology of the Sumerians is the description of an alien race of beings who came to our planet to mine precious minerals and who genetically altered our species. This latter bit of the tale in the Sumerian writing has caused the cosmology to be thrown out along with the aliens. But it does not negate the cosmology.
FACTS:
There is indeed something "out there" that approximates Planet-X, Nibiru, a brown dwarf... It has been proven but not seen. Readers can explore the mathematical models that demonstrate the disruptions in the Oort Cloud, comets and our Sun in a previous article on viewzone.
At the present time we seem to be experiencing an unusually quiet period of what was supposed to be the most violent 11-year solar cycle in history. According to the theory of barycenters, this must be due to the gravitational effects of some massive body in our Solar System, preventing the usual disruptions associated with the 11+ year orbits of Jupiter.
Recent unpredicted asteroid activity suggests that something is perturbing the Kuiper Belt and Oort Cloud.
But until we can get reliable information from scientists -- or even amateurs -- who are willing to give their names and share their information for public scrutiny, we will always be suspicious when someone yells, "The sky is falling!"
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2148631/The-hunt-Planet-X-Noted-astronomer-calculates-planet-times-size-Earth-exist-fringe-solar-system.html
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Astronomer insists there is a Planet X four times the size of Earth lurking at the edge of our solar system
Distortion to orbits of asteroids beyond Pluto imply mystery planet is tugging at them, claims astronomer
The evidence for 'Planet X' - the mysterious hypothesised planet on the edge of our solar system - has taken a new turn thanks to the mathematics of a noted astronomer.
Rodney Gomes, an astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro, says the irregular orbits of small icy bodies beyond Neptune imply that a planet four times the size of Earth is swirling around our sun in the fringes of the solar system.
Planet X - perhaps mis-named now that Pluto has been demoted to a dwarf planet - has been widely hypothesised for decade, but has never been proven.
Gomes measured the orbits of 92 Kuiper belt objects - small bodies and dwarf planets - and said that six objects appeared to be tugged off-course compared to their expected orbits.
The hypothetical planet - four times the size of Earth - will float beyond Neptune and Pluto and cause disturbances in the Kuiper belt of asteroids
He told astronomers at the American Astronomical Society on Tuesday that the most likely reason for the irregular orbits was a 'planetary-mass solar companion' - a distant body of planet size that is powerful enough to move the Kuiper belt objects.
He suggested the planet would be four times bigger than Earth - around the size of Nepture and would be 140 billion miles from the sun, or about 1,500 times further than the Earth.
Alternatively an object the size of Mars on an irregular orbit that bought it to within five billion miles of the sun - close to Neptune's orbit - could be the solution.
However, due to the distances involved, it will be tough to for Earthbound astronomers to catch a glimpse of the hypothetical newest member of our solar system.
Even non-planet Pluto is hard to spot thanks to the distances involved.
The Kuiper belt lies on the outskirts of our solar system, and calculations imply a planet also lurks out there
The solar system as we know it, showing (l-r), Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune
While other astronomers are on the astronomical fence, they have applauded his methods.
Rory Barnes, from the University of Washington told National Geographic that Gomes 'has laid out a way to determine how such a planet could sculpt parts of our solar system.
'So while, yes, the evidence doesn't exist yet, I thought the bigger point was that he showed us that there are ways to find that evidence.
'I don't think he really has any evidence that suggests it is out there.'
Hal Levison, from the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado, said: 'It seems surprising to me that a [solar] companion as small as Neptune could have the effect he sees.
'[But] I know Rodney, and I'm sure he did the calculations right.'
The previous ninth planet, Pluto, is one of the largest of the Kuiper belt dwarf planets, at some 1,400 miles wide.
It got downgraded by the International Astronomical Union in 2006 for failing to meet all the criteria of a 'planet', namely that its mass is not sufficient enough to clear its orbit of surrounding objects.
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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May 23rd, 2012 - 2:05 PM