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Re: Did you ever consider this possibility?

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The End Times Passover - The Covenant With Many, Who are the Many?

This is so good and needs to be shared - by Gerlinda


As I reread this former post of June 29, 2014 called The Covenant With Many, Who Are the Many?, I can see now the much deeper lesson of this group of people called Israel because of all of the Biblical evidence given by Joe Ortiz.. What an eye-opener it has been.

Since having begun to read Joe Ortiz book, End Times Passover, where he covers this topic so well, you wonder why you never understood all this before. He gives scripture after scripture of who the ecclesia include. It is both the Old Testament Called Out ones whom God chose including the Gentiles who joined them. The ecclesia has always been there since God first called Abraham out of the Land of Ur..

It was not created on Pentecost. What took place on Pentecost is that this Body, the ecclesia was endowed with Power and received The Comforter... In the commission to go out and preach the Gospel.

The First Pentecost took place on Mount Sinai when Moses was given the Torah.

This means, those that call themselves the church and hold themselves separate from Israel are short-changing themselves. They are not a Gentile Church that is part of a separate Dispensation...they are the Body, the ecclesia that will remain here until Christ sends His Angels out to gather His Elect. The Elect are the ecclesia

Joe Ortiz gives the scriptures that show the Southern Kingdom of Judah , whom includes the tribes Judah,Benjamin and the Levites (which we know were not given their own territory but made themselves a part of each of the tribes) and would be separate from the others and keep the Laws. We know there have been many Levites, who are of the priestly Tribe who have become believers in their Messiah

The tribe of Judah would continue to be the administrators of the Mosaic laws until the Messiah returns. " The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of people be." (Genesis 49:10)

This specific prophecy included the continual teaching and administration of the laws He gave to Moses, which are now viewed by present day Jews as the only way of salvation. (This teaching by Joe Ortiz is covered in "This is so good and needs to be shared"

http://www.rapturebibleprophecyforum.com/

This brings to mind that the Tribe of Dan , out of whom will come Anti-Christ, have been making and administrating their own brand of Law down through the ages.

That law comes right out of the Roman Empire . They are a jealous lot who have the intentions of stealing that Sceptre given to Judah. They are an Edomite lot who mean to have another temple in Jerusalem upon which their god will place his image.

And why are we, the ecclesia helping them with our support? Because we, the Assembly, Congregation, ecclesia have been so duped by those that preach the gospel according to Rome. We believe that we are a separated part of the Sheep that Jesus Christ said He had come to save. We believe we are of the lineage of Rome rather than the lineage of Jesus Christ. Haven't we all be grafted into the Olive Tree whose Root is Jesus Christ?

The on-going debate of who is the true ecclesia can stop once and for all if we can get our heads wrapped around God's complete plan. He will bring all to completeness when the Lord Jesus Christ returns. I want to add here that when Jesus, said on the cross, "It is Finished". He is speaking about the Blood Offering that was needed to reconcile His People, all of them, the ecclesia unto the Father. This includes His Natural Kinsmen and the adopted Kinsmen.....Israel and Gentile.

Anyone who has ever been adopted into a family can relate to Joseph, whom became the adoptive father of Jesus. Joseph, under Jewish Law, became completely & legally the father of Jesus Christ with all the rights of a natural father. This is what is meant by the Gentile being grafted into the Body of Jesus Christ. The Lord does not keep the Gentile separate from His Body. Nor does He keep His Natural Sheep, the Lost House of Israel, separate from the Gentile that are grafted in.

I am one that was adopted by a father who was more of a father to me than the one whose seed gave me life. There are many others in this world that can relate to this wonderful work of love that an adopted Father expresses when he brings both the natural and adoptive into one Household. Or in this case, Sheepfold. Why would the Lord take out His adopted children before His natural children? He doesn't. It is within His power to protect us all while He deals with the Jews that have not yet had their blinders removed AND then unleashes His Wrath upon the Seed of Satan that are gathered to make war against Him.

He was the First Fruit of that Harvest and the rest of the Harvest will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air. The Dead arise first, then the Living. This is the Blessed Promise given to His Chosen .

No group of ecclesia has ever been called out...they have all gone through tribulation. Only two individuals have been caught out of this world without seeing death, Enoch and Isaiah. Moses was buried by God.

If you read your Bible, you will see that the two sons of Joseph received the greatest blessings of possessing much land and wealth. In fact, after WWII, the two sons, did possess 95% of the Land Mass and wealth, including the Door-ways (ports) to these land masses. So, that prophecy was fulfilled. Who are Manasseh and Ephraim?

As crazy as it may sound to you, the Bible's prophecy and history shows that the blessing was given to Great Britain (Ephraim) the younger son and and, Manasseh, the United States, the elder. There again, as I listened to the below video by David. Would it surprise you to know that the USA is not an independent nation? They are the CommonWeath Nations? What Covenant? They are of the Covenant that God made to Abraham. There are no other nations that fulfill this promise given to Joseph's two sons.

What about Judah ?

Judah wasn't given that blessing. Judah , to this day, remains entrenched in the small area of the Southern Kingdom where sits Jerusalem, in the territory of Benjamin. Judah refused her Messiah and will stay apart until they can come to grips with the fact that Jesus Christ is their Messiah as well as the Messiah of those of the Northern Tribe who spread into the world, where they intermarried with Gentiles. It is said that they would one day say, "For I say unto you. Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, 'Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.'."
Matthew 23:39

It will take a lot of tribulation to cause them to look up and stop relying on their own understanding. So, truthfully, both Israel and Judah are in for further revelations. The House of Israel has been the single greatest fulfillment of spreading the Good News of God's Word. Now, they are beginning to realize just who they are. It is not the Jews that did this but the Northern Tribe of Israel. The Jews have hung to their scriptures but were blind to seeing their Messiah of which they told.

If you want to know the real truth of who you, the ecclesia are, then read the on-line book, The End Times Passover, furnished by this site rapturebibleprophecyforum.com for free. This is a gift that Steven was able to get from Joe Ortiz, a very humble man, whom has been accused of being Anti-Semitic. Isn't that just about as nuts as it gets....his very own wife is an Israelite. I think he should know who is a Hebrew and who is not. The book is for free. Take advantage of it.

PS Those that say, I do not understand the Spiritual significance of this, I ask you if you understand the earthy events correctly that must take place to usher in the Return of Jesus Christ. Have you understood of whom the ecclesia include? There is always something new that we can learn if we chose to learn, which will help all of our presently held theology to hone in on God's Truth.

Link: End Times Passover

http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3330765498&frmid=8549&msgid=924414&cmd=show


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Re: Did you ever consider this possibility?

There seem to be Believers that now understand who is Israel; that they may well be Israel. In fact, most of the Church is Israel with gentiles grafted in.

Israel was always been God's Chosen with a few gentiles that chose to be a part of them become one of them. Remember Ruth? She became a full member of the Family of the Chosen. In fact, she, a Gentile, became the grandmother to King David.

I wonder who it is that instills this objection to both the Gentiles and Israel making up the Whole Body of Believers who God calls His Chosen?

I think we know the answer to that question.

You see, it is the Jews that make up the Southern Kingdom of Judah that have been blinded, not Israel, whom Jesus Christ came to seek and save.

Blessings to all that seek the Word of God and learn His Truth rather than hang on to the lies that infiltrated the church.
,
Gerlinda

Re: Did you ever consider this possibility?

There seems to be Believers that now understand who is Israel.

They realize that they may be of the House of Israel. In fact, most of the Church is Israel with gentiles grafted in.

Israel has always been God's Chosen with a few gentiles that chose to become a part of them. Remember Ruth? She became a full member of the Family of the Chosen. In fact, she, a Gentile, became the grandmother to King David.

I wonder who it is that instills this objection to both the Gentiles and Israel making up the Whole Body of Believers whom God calls His Chosen?

I think we know the answer to that question. It is the same enemy that knows he must keep the church divided. You can't push a pre-tribulation Rapture unless you've convinced people that they represent a separate Dispensation. Do you see how you've been had if you believe this?

So, it is very important to learn the difference between the Northern Tribes that make up Israel and whom the apostles were able to reach with the Gospel message. The Jews of the Southern Kingdom of Judah will have their blinders removed later.

Blessings to all that seek the Word of God and learn His Truth rather than hang on to the lies that infiltrated the church.
,
Gerlinda