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(Rapture is a Vatican/Jesuit Lie )The "Resurrection" has been erroneously labeled The "Rapture".
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WE STARTED OUT BELIEVING IN A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE
BUT FOUND OVER TIME AROUND 2006 THAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT SHARE A
BIBLE VERSE WHATSOEVER INDICATING A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE
BIBLE VERSES EVIDENCE:
While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. John 17:15 (KJV)
Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return: "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:" Matt. 24:29 (KJV)
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Yahusha/JESUS is YHVH/GOD/YHWH-Yahusha/Son:
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Yahusha is I Am That I Am (Exodus 3:14)
Yahusha is YHWH come in the flesh, He put aside His Diety to become a human, born of a Virgin.
Yahusha is the Word, As The Most High, He spoke all things seen and unseen into existence
When YHWH created Light, He was revealed to the angels.
John 14:26
"the breath of life"
But the Comforter, which is "the breath of life", whom the Father will send shall teach you all things.
God is not His Name but a term. The Holy Spirit is not a person but the very Breath of the Father.
There is no Trinity. The Father, YHVH and Yahusha are One (John 10:30)
THE BOOK OF ENOCH
NOW IS THE TIME!
FOR A REMOTE GENERATION THE LAST GENERATION FOR THE ELECT!
REFERENCES IN THE BOOK OF ENOCH TO THE BIBLE
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Book of Enoch: http://tinyurl.com/BkOfEnoch
The book of Second Peter and Jude Authenticate the book of Enoch and Vice Versa
Yahusha/JESUS QUOTED FROM THE SEPTUAGINT:
THE APOSTLES QUOTED FROM THE SEPTUAGINT
JEWS WERE CONVERTING TO CHRISTIANITY
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Solar Status: Chance of M-Class flares from rotating sun spot
January 19, 2012 – CHANCE OF AURORAS: NOAA forecasters estimate a 15% to 20% chance of polar geomagnetic storms during the next 24 hours in response to a possible glancing blow from a CME. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras. Earth’s atmosphere has been puffing up in response to increasing levels of UV radiation from sunspots. This is good news for satellite operators, because a puffed up atmosphere helps clean up low-Earth orbit. Meanwhile, sunspot 1401 poses a threat for some M-class solar flares. –Space Watch
Solar wind
speed: 351.2 km/sec
density: 5.0 protons/cm3
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Gerlinda (11 Feb 2012)
"He Comes in a Cloud - A Strange Cloud is heading to earth"
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John, This is getting so exciting. I hope you can open this.
Doesn't it say something about Jesus Coming back in a cloud? Take a look at Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Look at this news in this article about an anominous cloud approaching and how the world's most famous pyramids are generation energy. NASA has tried to keep this quiet.
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1733/112/Worlds_Pyramids_Beaming_Energy_To_Mysterious_Space_Cloud.html
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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A comet meets
a globular cluster
Comet Garradd has a spectacular conjunction with a bright globular cluster in the early hours of the next two mornings ( 2/3 and 3/4 February ) when it passes around half a degree from M92 ( NGC 6341 ). This will be a fine observing and imaging opportunity and for once the weather forecast looks reasonable across the majority of the UK.
Comet Garradd passes close to M92 in Hercules over the next few nights. AN graphic by Greg Smye-Rumsby.
Comet Garradd ( 2009 P1 ) has been a feature in the night sky for a number of months now and has been resident in the constellation Hercules since late September. It has been steadily brightening as it closed in on the Sun, reaching perihelion in late December and it is now holding steady at around magnitude +7, unfortunately beyond naked eye range but an easy binocular and telescopic object. M92 ( R.A. 17h 17m 07.3s, Decl. +43° 08 ’ 11” ) is one of the finest globular clusters in the Northern Sky, shining at mag. +6.5 and spanning 14 arcminutes in size. It too will be an easy binocular object but will require apertures in excess of 100-mm to resolve individual stars.
Garradd is now circumpolar from the UK (always above the horizon, as is M92) but observers will have to wait until around 1am for the pair to attain a decent altitude of 20 degrees or so above the north-eastern horizon. It will be well worth the wait as recent images show the comet to be a spectacular object, exhibiting a bright nucleus roughly similar in size to M92, fan-shaped dust tail and a thin gas tail pointing almost directly away from the Sun. A waxing gibbous Moon is still up over in the west but sets around 5am on 3 Feb and 5.40am the next night.
The comet remains within five degrees of M92 until the 8/9 February as it continues to track north, moving into Draco in mid February, skirting Ursa Minor in early March whilst approaching closest to the Earth and then peaking in declination on 11 March at +71°. It remains circumpolar to the end of April when, hopefully it will still be an eight-magnitude object in Lynx.
http://www.astronomynow.com/news/n1202/02comet/
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Comet Garradd to be brightest in mid-late February: museum
2012/02/11 21:28:30
Taipei, Feb.11 (CNA) The best observation opportunity for a comet that is approaching Earth will be Saturday until Feb. 24, when its visibility reaches its peak, according to the Taipei Astronomical Museum.
Comet C/2009 P1 (Garradd) will reach a magnitude of around 6 during the period, which means that anyone equipped with binoculars will be easily able tolocate it, assuming that the skies are clear of cloud, according to the museum.
Discovered in 2009 by an Australian observatory, Garradd will also pass close to
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Subject: Fw: Tom Tanner Correct interpretation of Daniel 9:25
Hello Tom, John and doves,
The 42 complete Hebraic Months Tom was referring to, will begin on September 17, 2012 and would end on February 8, 2016 or Shevat 29, 5776.
This is eight full months BEFORE 1/2 Tishri 5777 or October 3/4, 2016, which several of us in the prophetic arena are looking at as the end date of Daniels 69th week.
If it was '7 full months' before October 4, 2016, I may have been interested in the scenario, In Ezekiel 39:12-24 we read “color=red]For seven months[/u] the house of Israel will be burying them, in order to cleanse the land....”
Also, let us not get caught up in the "burning weapons for seven years" this will have no 'effect' in the Millennium because for one, Israels borders will be extended to where God has assigned them to be.
The 1000 years are going to be a lot more like today than many realize, their will be lightning strikes and fires will be lit for burning throughout those years, the Messiah will reign and people will be giving birth to children who will be tested by Satan when the 1000 years end.
Remember when this Gog/Magog attack occurs, these people of Ezekiel 38:8, whom I, along with others, believe will have come there on 'angels hands', Psalm 91:10-13, on Passover March 25, 2013, that begins an exact 1290 day timeline, fulfilling Daniel 12:11’s prophecy that counts out on October 3 or 4, 2016.
In other words we, the remnant in these following texts, will have been there a full 35 months of the 42 months Rev. 12:14-17, Isaiah 11:10-16, Jeremiah 23:3-8 and Ezekiel 20:33-38 before "Gog" tries to attack us.
As a matter of fact I believe the attack will come on Purim March 4/5, 2016, the true 'Haman's revenge' date, the "Persia" of Ezekiel 38:5
I have been studying and looking at the Hebraic 266 day 'birth pang' period to begin on July 2, 2012 and the birthing of the “remnant” by the woman, on March 25, 2013.
This following text out of Isaiah 7 may be hard for Christians to follow, because they have never been taught the difference between the 'house of Israel/Ephraim and the house of Judah/Jacob. The prophecy gurus of the 70's and 80's claimed those who "escaped Satan" and went into the wilderness in Revelation 12, were the "Jews".
Isaiah 14:1-2 makes it very clear that strangers are attached to them, while Paul explained it quite clearly WHO was "grafted" onto the branches!
A HIDDEN PROPHECY
The [brackets are my comments]
Isaiah 7:5 Because Syria, with Ephraim
and the son of Ramallah, has devised evil against you, saying, 6 "Let us go up against Judah [Israel today] and terrify it, and let us conquer it for ourselves, and set up the son of Tabeel as king [antichrist] in the midst of it," 7 thus says the Lord GOD: "'It shall not stand, and it shall not come to pass. 8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Resin. And within sixty-five years Ephraim [USA] will be shattered from being a people. 9 And the head of Ephraim is Samaria,[Washington DC] and the head of Samaria is the son of Ramallah [Obama]. If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all.'"
Those words above just flew off the text upon me, in other words we are going to be hard pressed and tested, think not what you should say but stand on the promises and TRUST THE FATHERS WORD if they come knocking on your door or question you along the way.
The 65th year of Daniels 70, began on September 29, 2011 and ends on September 16, 2012.
In other words is there an attack coming on our country anytime between today and September 16, 2012? Are March 30-July 2, 2012 the critical 'heads-up' days or will it be during the long hot days of summer that the promised "sudden destruction" comes?
Just look at this headline for a March 30, 2012 'red flag' day in Israel.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/153088#.T0bXOXkui9s
This date just happens to be exactly 266 days from the December 21, 2012 ending of the Mayan calendar that the 'Conspirators of Psalm 2:1-3' FOLLOW!
I could be wrong but I believe the 'second Exodus' will occur on A PASSOVER March 25, 2013 because I think Planet X has got to get a little closer to bring that "storm of the LORD" we are all to understand perfectly today? Jeremiah 23:19-20, Jeremiah 30:23-24 and Isaiah 28:2 for starters.
All things are possible with God and He may shorten it to Passover April 7, 2011, and with the looks of things in the Middle-East He may, but I believe things have to ratchet up in the sky?
Hang in there brothers and sisters, like the Disciples, were are going to be hard pressed and tested at least through a ‘gestation period’ of 266 days.
An 'honest Abe' from Australia, in the Southern Hemisphere has been following Nibiru for almost two years, you be the judge, this may convince you?
http://www.youtube.com/user/bluebeard2011?feature=watch
NIBIRU VISIBLE TO NAKED EYE NEAR BIG DIPPER
From: bluebeard2011 | Oct 19, 2011 | 7,857 views
PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT JUPITER AS JUIPTER is in direction of IC1791 and this is near big dipper jupiter cant be in two places at once and as there is a great distance between them its not jupiter yes jupiter has moons i know but i also know that its not jupiter i know where jupiter is exactly in night sky ok open your mind nay sayers
Giving Him the glory, an Ezekiel 33:6 watching one, REPENT the Kingdom of God and the authority of His Messiah is at hand
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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Twin earthquakes rattle the globe on Spring Equinox
March 20, 2012 – WORLD – Two major earthquakes have struck the world within 6 minutes of each other. The earthquakes were a deep 6.2 magnitude earthquake near Papua, Indonesia and a much more shallow 7.6 magnitude earthquake which struck about 17.5 km (10.9 miles) deep near Oaxaca, Mexico. The Mexico earthquake’s epicenter was about 186 km (115 miles) from the popular resort area of Acapulco. –The Extinction Protocol
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7.6 magnitude earthquake strike near Oaxaca Mexico
March 20, 2012 – Mexico City (CNN) — A 7.6-magnitude earthquake hit Mexico Tuesday, the U.S. Geological Survey said. The earthquake’s epicenter was about 15 miles (25 km) east of Ometepec, Guerrero, the agency said, and its depth was about 11 miles (17 km). The agency earlier reported the magnitude of the quake at 7.9, but later revised that figure. Residents rushed into the streets after feeling the temblor in Mexico City. Tourists and residents also felt the earthquake in the resort city of Acapulco. Mexican President Felipe Calderon said in a Twitter post that there were no immediate reports of serious damage. In Mexico City, Mayor Marcelo Ebrard sent tweets saying that there was no visible damage in the capital and that the sprawling city’s strategic services and water system were functioning. Regardless, he tweeted, numerous buildings were being evacuated. -CNN
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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US GOVT/NASA Hiding HMO Data
The US Govt/NASA are hiding very important and even critical data pointing to the fact that Earth magnetosphere is reversing to point directly back at the Sun. Remember that the HMO is inbound from the Leo Constellation directly opposite the Sun right now, which is more evidence that Earth is under the influence of a second heliosphere with an inner and outer reach of influence extending from the inbound HMO coming into the inner solar system for an orbit around our Sun.
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Spanish Astronomers Claim Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto
by Gary Vey for viewzone
The idea of a new planet being discovered in our Solar System is pretty exciting. Even more so because of the many theories about "planet-x" or "Nibiru" being associated with space aliens and the doomsday prophecies of 2012.
Scientists at places like NASA and famous observatories have deflected inquiries about the discovery for a few years now, mainly because they feared being associated with these "fringe" theories. But like it or not -- it has happened. Well... according to a team of Spanish artronomers who call themselves the StarViewer Team.
The group made the rounds of all the news web sites in the past two weeks, claiming they discovered something very significant. It's almost twice the size of Jupiter and just beyond our furthest planetoid, Pluto. Although it's not a planet, it appears to have planets or large satellites encircling it. It's what astronomers call a "brown dwarf star" and its official name is "G1.9".
What's a Brown Dwarf Star?
First we'll explain WHAT these astronomers have discovered. Then we'll discuss HOW they discovered it.
At the risk of being scientifically vague, I'll try to explain the current understanding of how stars and planets form in space.
All matter attracts other matter. A larger mass will attract smaller masses towards it. In space this results in growing clouds of matter that tend to clump together and attract more matter. Since most of the matter in space is gaseous, these clouds eventually get so dense that they collapse into dense gaseous spheres. When they do this there is usually some "left over" matter that forms a ring around the sphere.
If there is enough matter in a sphere of hydrogen, for example, it can cause so much compression at the shpere's core that the hydrogen atoms begin to fuse together and a fusion-reaction ignites a new born star. In this reaction two hydrogen atoms join together to form one helium atom and release extra energy as radiation.
Scientists believe that the minimum mass needed to ignite a sun is about 13 times the known mass of the planet Jupiter -- written as "13MJ." If the mass is lower than this, the pressure in the core is not enough to ignite and the sphere will be hot ball of gas called a "brown dwarf."
As a new star spins, the disk surrounding it gradually cools and the matter forms heavier elements like metals and minerals. These "rocks" eventually clump together and form solid spheres called planets.
Sometimes a solid sphere will attract some of the gas that is in the disk and this will result in a gaseous giant, like Jupiter and Saturn, which has a solid core but a thick gaseous atmosphere. These "gas giant" planets can be very massive but, because of their solid cores, they will never ignite and become stars.
This Brown Dwarf
This newly discovered "brown dwarf" is believed to have formed from the same condensed matter that gave birth to our Sun. It is believed that, after the large planets formed around the Sun, they pushed it to the edge of the Solar system where it formed a sphere about 1.9MJ -- well below the mass needed to ignite it as a "sun."
Nemesis
The theory of a companion sun is not new. It has often been described as Nemesis, after the Greek figure in mythology.
The mythological Nemesis was the spirit of divine retribution against those who succumb to hubris, vengeful fate personified as a remorseless goddess. The name Nemesis is related to the Greek word meaning "to give what is due".
Nemesis is now often used as a term to describe one's worst enemy, normally someone or something that is the exact opposite of oneself but is also somehow similar. For example, Professor Moriarty is frequently described as the nemesis of Sherlock Holmes.
"Opposite yet similar" is the perfect description for a companion to our Sun. But the name Nemesis also implies a sinister nature. Will this new Nemesis be beneficial or harmful to our lives?
Many suns that we observe in the galaxy are part of binary systems or double stars. There is debate about how two suns form from a single condensed cloud of matter. Some believe that they both form at the same time; others believe they split following the creation of one huge sun.
Sometimes both spheres are capable of fusion and both suns shine brightly, encircling each other around an imaginary point call the barycenter. Sometimes only one sun attains 13MJ and ignites, while its smaller companion, the brown dwarf, glows dimly and radiates heat. Astronomers usually can only see the brightest of the two, but because they both circle around a common barycenter, the wobble reveals the mass of the unseen companion.
We are close to our Sun and within its gravitational influence. So as we are travel through space, it appears to us that the G1.9 is moving in an elipse between our furthest planetoid, Pluto, and the edge of our Solar system, near the Oort Cloud
The newly discovered brown dwarf is reported to be located just about 60 to 66 AU (1 AU=the distance from the Sun to Earth) from us (its parigee), currently in the direction of the constellation Sagittarius. Because of periodic gravitational disturbances in areas of space further out, specifically in the Oort Cloud, the Spanish group of astronomers believe G1.9 travels in an elliptical orbit extending possibly hundreds of AU beyond the furthest known planets (its apogee). Its position just beyond Pluto suggests it is at its closest approach to the Sun and Earth.
Space appears relatively free of debris [see image above] inside the planetary orbits. This is because the gravitational pull of each planet (a large mass) effectively collects the interplanetary debris (small mass). But there are exceptions.
Belts of Debris
Between Mars and Jupiter you will see a ring of debris called The Asteroid Belt. It is believed that a planet once orbited in this area before it was pulverized by some type of impact. Many theorists believe this was caused by a rogue planet that entered the Solar System -- again hinting at the existence of some unknown member of our planetary system.
Beyond the furthest planetoid, Pluto, there is a large ring of debris called the Kuiper Belt. While the asteroid belt is composed primarily of rock and metal, the Kuiper belt objects are composed largely of frozen volatiles (termed "ices"), such as methane, ammonia and water.
As we get to the edge of the Solar System we enter another debris zone, the Oort Cloud. The Oort is not a band of debris but rather a spherical shell that surrounds the Solar System and extends out to the edge of the Sun's gravitational field. This region is thought to contain frozen clumps of water, methane, ethane, carbon monoxide and hydrogen cyanide. It's also the birth place of comets. However, the discovery of the object 1996-PW, an asteroid in an orbit more typical of a long-period comet, suggests that the cloud may also be home to rocky objects.
Debris "fly-paper"
Jupiter and Saturn are extremely massive and have such strong gravity that they attract meteors and comets entering the planetary zone of our Solar System. They protect smaller planets like our Earth from impacts, acting like a fly-paper for meteors, comets and asteroids.
In August of 2009, Jupiter captured a large asteroid that entered the planetary zone unexpectedly, despite the efforts of astronomers to track these dangerous objects. It is believed that this asteroid was perturbed by the trajectory of G1.9, which until now, was not recognized and accounted for.
Note: The dark spot [ top right] in the northern hemisphere of Jupiter where the asteroid impact was.
How it was discovered... the controversy
You might well ask why astronomers have never detected this object before. In fact they did. G1.9 was first identified as a "supernova remnant" in 1984 by Dave Green of the University of Cambridge and later studied in greater detail with NRAO's Very Large Array radio telescope in 1985. Because it was unusually small for a supernova it was thought to be young -- less than about 1000 years old.
But in 2007, X-ray observations made with NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory revealed that the object was much larger than the last time it was observed! It had grown in size by 16%. Puzzled by this observation, the Very Large Array repeated its observations of 23 years ago and verified that it had increased in size considerably. Knowing that supernova do not expand this quickly, unless they have just exploded, they explained that G1.9 must be a "very young" supernova -- perhaps not more than 150 years old. But no record of a visible supernova has been found corresponding to that historical period (about the time of the American Civil War).
Spanish astronomers have tracked this object with great interest because they were anticipating its appearance. Gravitational anomalies have been appearing in the Oort Cloud for some time, suggesting the perturbations were caused by a nearby object with considerable mass. The announcement that G1.9 had increased in size was no mystery to them. It is exactly what they would expect as the object moved closer to Earth.
The object, G1.9 [above right] is currently located in the direction of our Galaxy's center, Sagittarius, which glows bright in this infrared spectrum image. Because of the bright background G1.9 is not visible in normal light wavelengths.
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PART II continued in next post below
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Spanish Astronomers Claim Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto
by Gary Vey for viewzone
Of course there is controversy. The Spanish asrtonomers, who call themselves the "Starviewer Team" must still convince the scientific community that G.19 is not a supernova, but rather a brown dwarf star inside our Solar System. This is not an easy task. But we asked them to do just that for this article
The image [above] shows the evidence that the object has increased in size over the 23 years that it has been observed. On the left, the blue spherical shape was recorded in radio wavelengths in 1985 by the Very Large Array. The image on the right shows the same view taken in 2008. It is obvious that the object is larger, but critics say that this is not because the object is closer, but rather that the residual "shell" from the exploding star has advanced out from its origin. They note the shape is not spherical but consistent with the type of remnants usually seen with supernova.
In this image [above] we see the original 1985 radio emission image from VLA compared to the 2007 x-ray image taken by the Chandra Observatory. Critics again point to the lack of central imaging (i.e. where is the brown dwarf?) and question why orbiting planets would emit irregularly shaped x-rays.
We put these questions to the Starviewer Team.
(pending their response).
The image above was provided by the Starviewer Team. It shows the object G1.9 on the left and a known brown dwarf, Gilese 229A on the right. We are looking at microwave band emissions which indicate the radiated heat from each source. The dark red areas are the hottest. We note that G1.9 has a solid heat emission similar to Gilese 229A. The Starviewer Team seems to suggest that if G1.9 were really a supernova, we might expect that the spherical area would be cool, since the hot gas and ejecta from the exploding star would have been concentrated in the surrounding shell.
Scientists supporting the "supernova theory" remind us that the shell of a supernova is actually a sphere, meaning that the heat signature would appear circular. This supernova is also alleged to be very young -- about 150 years old -- so it would still be pretty hot. They ask us to view the heat signature os another supernova and provide an example of the infrared emission scan for Cygnus-Loop supernova below:
Spanish Astronomers Claim Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto
by Gary Vey for viewzone
Of course there is controversy. The Spanish asrtonomers, who call themselves the "Starviewer Team" must still convince the scientific community that G.19 is not a supernova, but rather a brown dwarf star inside our Solar System. This is not an easy task. But we asked them to do just that for this article.
The image [above] shows the evidence that the object has increased in size over the 23 years that it has been observed. On the left, the blue spherical shape was recorded in radio wavelengths in 1985 by the Very Large Array. The image on the right shows the same view taken in 2008. It is obvious that the object is larger, but critics say that this is not because the object is closer, but rather that the residual "shell" from the exploding star has advanced out from its origin. They note the shape is not spherical but consistent with the type of remnants usually seen with supernova.
In this image [above] we see the original 1985 radio emission image from VLA compared to the 2007 x-ray image taken by the Chandra Observatory. Critics again point to the lack of central imaging (i.e. where is the brown dwarf?) and question why orbiting planets would emit irregularly shaped x-rays.
We put these questions to the Starviewer Team.
(pending their response).
The image above was provided by the Starviewer Team. It shows the object G1.9 on the left and a known brown dwarf, Gilese 229A on the right. We are looking at microwave band emissions which indicate the radiated heat from each source. The dark red areas are the hottest. We note that G1.9 has a solid heat emission similar to Gilese 229A. The Starviewer Team seems to suggest that if G1.9 were really a supernova, we might expect that the spherical area would be cool, since the hot gas and ejecta from the exploding star would have been concentrated in the surrounding shell.
Scientists supporting the "supernova theory" remind us that the shell of a supernova is actually a sphere, meaning that the heat signature would appear circular. This supernova is also alleged to be very young -- about 150 years old -- so it would still be pretty hot. They ask us to view the heat signature os another supernova and provide an example of the infrared emission scan for Cygnus-Loop supernova below:
The scientists also remind us that the observations for G1.9 were made 23 years ago and the most recent observations show that the object has not moved significantly as an orbiting planet or brown dwarf would be expected to do. How do you explain this?
When we previewed this article to the Starviewer Team, we asked them to send us a rebuttal. We think we have focused on the Achillies Heel of their assertions. We waited for an answer and received the following statement, which was translated for us:
1.-Some self-motivated International committee of astronomers, by their own innitiative, are presently calculating the exact orbit for the Brown Dwarf Sagitarius-Oort-Kuiper perturbation, using the StarViewerTeam's work sheets based on Lissauer, Murray and Matese's original drafts. A final report, will be published by Feb 2010.
2.-There are huge scientific evidences concerning to the fact that Cosmic causes and Brown Dwarf are the real causes of Climate change. On July the 10th, Dr.Paul Clark, published on Science.com an article concerning to this matter, and almost 700 scientists signed the minority Report on climate change.
It appears the evidence is inferential and based on mathematics. So we must wait until February. I give this a validity rating (from 1 to 10) of 4.
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UPDATE FEBRUARY 19, 2010: -- We patiently waited and monitored the StarViewer Team's web site for the "proof" that claimed would be forthcoming. Needless to say, it never materialized. Also, the initial popularity of their claim appears to have been nothing more than a way to attract a large viewership. The web site now is full of ridiculous claims, including some satirical stories taken from "the onion" (a very funny site) which the SV Team promoted as "real." There is no mention of the mathematical validation that was expected with regards to the G1.9 object. Perhaps the validation disproved their theory... perhaps it was never going to be validated by anyone... I think it is safe to take this theory of object G1.9 being a brown dwarf down to ZERO possibility!
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Other Possibilities for Planet-X?
We'll mention one more, since it is the most popular one mentioned on the internet. It involved a statement made by some NASA scientists following the launch and retrieved data from IRAS, the infrared detection satellite that was launched back in 1983. A story ran in the Washington Post on December 30, 1983 with the headline, Possibly as Large as Jupiter; Mystery Heavenly Body Disccovered. Written by Thomas O'Toole it read as follows:
A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite.
So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby "protostar" that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through.
"All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is," Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist for California's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview.
The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 trillion miles. While that may seem like a great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone's throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto.
"If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system," said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University's Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the IRAS science team. "If it is that close, I don't know how the world's planetary scientists would even begin to classify it."
The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky from last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the supercold helium that allowed its telescope to see the coldest bodies in the heavens. The second observation took place six months after the first and suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky near the western edge of the constellation Orion in that time.
"This suggests it's not a comet because a comet would not be as large as the one we've observed and a comet would probably have moved," Houck said. "A planet may have moved if it were as close as 50 trillion miles but it could still be a more distant planet and not have moved in six months time."
I could go on and on about why this is not true. But a paper published by the same astrophysicists disclosed that the "mysterious object" was a distant galaxy -- one of the first of its kind to emit light in the infrared spectrum. The article, Unidentified IRAS sources -- Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies appeared in the Astrophysical Journal. Here is the abstract:
Abstract
Optical imaging and spectroscopy measurements were obtained for six of the high galactic latitude infrared sources reported by Houck, et al. (1984) from the IRAS survey to have no obvious optical counterparts on the POSS prints. All are identified with visually faint galaxies that have total luminosities in the range 5 x 10 to the 11th power stellar luminosity to 5 x 10 to the 12th power stellar luminosity. This luminosity emerges virtually entirely in the infrared. The origin of the luminosity, which is one to two orders of magnitude greater than that of normal galaxies, is not known at this time.
So what now? No Planet-X after all?
There's a lot of subtle fear with the approaching "doomsday" of 2012. We live in a world where the economies have failed, our governments have lied to us and there seems to be little hope. This fear is based, in part, on our collective "gut feeling" that something big and bad is on the event horizon. We sense it is something much bigger than our own obvious ineptitude at running the world. We look to space for the source of this catastrophe.
Our interest in Planet-X was first triggered by the writings of Zecharia Sitchin, whose translations and interpretations of the oldest known civilization, the Sumerians, gave us a cosmology that included what he called "The Twelfth Planet."
Sitchin's work with ancient texts, specifically the Enumma Elish, is brilliant. The cosmology includes an extra, as yet undiscovered planet, which is similar to the descriptions used by NASA and the Starviewer Team. This planet is in an eliptical orbit with a "year" equal to an amazing 3600 earth years. This long orbit is why the planet -- called Nibiru by the ancients -- has eluded observation with current telescopes and satellites.
Embedded with the cosmology of the Sumerians is the description of an alien race of beings who came to our planet to mine precious minerals and who genetically altered our species. This latter bit of the tale in the Sumerian writing has caused the cosmology to be thrown out along with the aliens. But it does not negate the cosmology.
FACTS:
There is indeed something "out there" that approximates Planet-X, Nibiru, a brown dwarf... It has been proven but not seen. Readers can explore the mathematical models that demonstrate the disruptions in the Oort Cloud, comets and our Sun in a previous article on viewzone.
At the present time we seem to be experiencing an unusually quiet period of what was supposed to be the most violent 11-year solar cycle in history. According to the theory of barycenters, this must be due to the gravitational effects of some massive body in our Solar System, preventing the usual disruptions associated with the 11+ year orbits of Jupiter.
Recent unpredicted asteroid activity suggests that something is perturbing the Kuiper Belt and Oort Cloud.
But until we can get reliable information from scientists -- or even amateurs -- who are willing to give their names and share their information for public scrutiny, we will always be suspicious when someone yells, "The sky is falling!"
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Astronomer insists there is a Planet X four times the size of Earth lurking at the edge of our solar system
Distortion to orbits of asteroids beyond Pluto imply mystery planet is tugging at them, claims astronomer
The evidence for 'Planet X' - the mysterious hypothesised planet on the edge of our solar system - has taken a new turn thanks to the mathematics of a noted astronomer.
Rodney Gomes, an astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro, says the irregular orbits of small icy bodies beyond Neptune imply that a planet four times the size of Earth is swirling around our sun in the fringes of the solar system.
Planet X - perhaps mis-named now that Pluto has been demoted to a dwarf planet - has been widely hypothesised for decade, but has never been proven.
Gomes measured the orbits of 92 Kuiper belt objects - small bodies and dwarf planets - and said that six objects appeared to be tugged off-course compared to their expected orbits.
The hypothetical planet - four times the size of Earth - will float beyond Neptune and Pluto and cause disturbances in the Kuiper belt of asteroids
He told astronomers at the American Astronomical Society on Tuesday that the most likely reason for the irregular orbits was a 'planetary-mass solar companion' - a distant body of planet size that is powerful enough to move the Kuiper belt objects.
He suggested the planet would be four times bigger than Earth - around the size of Nepture and would be 140 billion miles from the sun, or about 1,500 times further than the Earth.
Alternatively an object the size of Mars on an irregular orbit that bought it to within five billion miles of the sun - close to Neptune's orbit - could be the solution.
However, due to the distances involved, it will be tough to for Earthbound astronomers to catch a glimpse of the hypothetical newest member of our solar system.
Even non-planet Pluto is hard to spot thanks to the distances involved.
The Kuiper belt lies on the outskirts of our solar system, and calculations imply a planet also lurks out there
The solar system as we know it, showing (l-r), Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune
While other astronomers are on the astronomical fence, they have applauded his methods.
Rory Barnes, from the University of Washington told National Geographic that Gomes 'has laid out a way to determine how such a planet could sculpt parts of our solar system.
'So while, yes, the evidence doesn't exist yet, I thought the bigger point was that he showed us that there are ways to find that evidence.
'I don't think he really has any evidence that suggests it is out there.'
Hal Levison, from the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado, said: 'It seems surprising to me that a [solar] companion as small as Neptune could have the effect he sees.
'[But] I know Rodney, and I'm sure he did the calculations right.'
The previous ninth planet, Pluto, is one of the largest of the Kuiper belt dwarf planets, at some 1,400 miles wide.
It got downgraded by the International Astronomical Union in 2006 for failing to meet all the criteria of a 'planet', namely that its mass is not sufficient enough to clear its orbit of surrounding objects.
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
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Patti C (30 June 2012)
"TO MIKE P. / NIBIRU"
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TO MIKE P. / NIBIRU
Hello Mike and all Doves,
Mike, thank you so very much for sharing an update about Nibiru…I have been wondering what is happening with that situation and found the study you pointed to extremely interesting!! The pictures are incredible and frightening at the same time.
http://www.wakenews.net/Nibiru_Final_Update.pdf
What is so very amazing is the timeline of events that this study puts forth, and how they line up with so many other posts about the end of July and the 9th of Av. If we are raptured on or around that time it would fit perfectly with a RAPTURE/SUDDEN DESTRUCTION scenario!!
Also, it would fit extremely well with a 7 year time of major tribulation…that the world has never seen before!!
So, I have copied the timeline of its passing for all those who may not have read the article yet, with emphasis on the date of AUGUST 3, 2012, when it crosses earth’s orbit. If we are to depart near the end of July, it would only be a few days before it really gets ugly!!
28 June 2012
Yesterday) Nibiru finally let’s go of Saturn. The ringed planet had been in its magnetic grip for over a year and a half. Mars continues to flee from Nibiru even as the object, right on the red planet's heels, crosses its orbit.3 August 2012: Nibiru crosses Earth's orbit. It begins to close in on us as its forward speed continues to be accelerated by the Sun's pull.
20 August 2012: It crosses Venus orbit.
11 September 2012: it reaches perihelion to the Sun. This marks the most intense stage of the long battle between these two titans. Their magnetic, electric and even radiation (light) fields come into direct opposition and the effects of such a monumental clash will certainly reverberate across and be felt by all the planets in the vicinity.
27 September 2012: Nibiru comes directly between the Sun and Earth. Unlike Elenin a year earlier, it sits right on the ecliptic and will therefore cause a great solar eclipse. The Earth will now be very much at the mercy of this immense object's magnetism. At this point and since several days prior as Nibiru drew nearer, Earth should already be tipping severely and abnormally as its north pole is repelled by Nibiru's at the same time its southern counterpart is attracted.
Nibiru totally eclipses the Sun. The Earth is now completely exposed to its reverse polarity magnetic field.
Middle: The magnetic field forces the Earth to tip by either 90... Bottom: ... or completely turn over by 180!
In addition, Nibiru's clockwise-rotating electromagnetism could also force our planet to spin in the same direction. Our planet’s counter-clockwise spin is induced by electrical currents generated by the condensation of its magnetism. Earth's EM was given to it by our Sun, which also spins clockwise. If Nibiru manages to overcome our Sun's EM influence, it could force the Earth to reverse its rotation. Effectively, this would make the Sun rise in the west and set in the east!
16 October 2012: Nibiru reaches perigee. At this proximity of 0.232 AU, it is close enough to exert 72% of the magnetic influence of the Sun. However, it is likely that Earth will not be flipped by 259 but rather there may be an equilibrium reached between Nibiru's north pole repelling our north pole and attracting our south pole and its south pole repelling our south pole and attracting our north pole. Effectively, the Earth could be completely turned upside down by 180 from its natural inclination. We will also be receiving glancing blows from the Sun's super-massive flares at this point.
22 November 2012: Nibiru aligns with Earth and the Sun. It will also be trying to pull Earth with it out of the solar system. This will be a literal tug-of-war between it and the Sun.
Unfortunately for us, as Earth comes between the Sun and Nibiru it will be caught in the crossfire of the magnetic, electric and radioactive exchange flaring between them.
It is then that we will be in position to receive the full brunt of the energies from both objects at the same time!
21 December 2012: The infamous date sees the Earth approaching an alignment between the Sun and Elenin, and Nibiru also aligning between the Sun and Jupiter - all from the same general direction in space. It's as if the objects have conspired together to pull at the Sun. The magnetic stress on the star must be immense, especially with the combined forces of the two largest bodies (next to the Sun) in the solar system, Nibiru and Jupiter, involved! Note: at this stage the distance between Nibiru and its Elenin should be decreasing as Elenin is decelerating while Nibiru is accelerating as it has just been flung out of the inner solar system by the Sun.
28 December 2012: the double alignments are perfected.
28 July 2013: Nibiru approaches Jupiter in what looks like a head-on collision course!
5 August 2013: Nibiru's magnetic shell slams into Jupiter! This makes Jupiter the first and probably only planet in the entire solar system to experience the full brunt of the strongest and most intense magnetic forces whirling within Nibiru's 'inner eye wall'. Note that this is NOT a solid on solid collision because the solid core of Nibiru, the planet itself, is more than 0.1 AU (14,959,800 km) away from Jupiter, which is still a considerable distance (almost half the distance between Venus and Earth's orbits). Of course, Jupiter will try to put up a (futile) fight with its own magnetic field but with Nibiru's magnetism being 41.3 times stronger this is no contest! It's therefore a complete no-brainer who will win this match.
20 August 2013: Jupiter is trying to escape from Nibiru's inner eye wall. It may be able to do so because Nibiru is thankfully losing forward momentum at this point. Jupiter, being the largest planet in the solar system, is the only one capable of at least surviving (albeit not unscathed) this extremely intense encounter.
3 September 2013: Jupiter is slowly but surely drawing away from the clutches of the inner eye wall, even as Nibiru itself crosses the Jovian planet's orbit at approximately 0.2 AU or 29,919,600 km behind it. Nibiru's speed has also been reduced significantly by the encounter with Jupiter, meaning it will take even longer before it finally leaves our solar system.
11 September 2013: Jupiter finally escapes. This might be a good time to observe the damage dealt to the gas giant.
22 November 2013: The inner solar system is still within Nibiru's magnetosphere.
1 January 2018: Nibiru and Elenin are both on their way out of the solar system.
1 January 2018: Nibiru and Elenin are both on their way out of the solar system.
Nibiru's magnetosphere finally begins to recede from the inner solar system and should completely depart from it sometime during 2018, after wreaking havoc over the course of seven undoubtedly tumultuous years since 2011.
The weaker and larger part of Nibiru's magnetic field (the outer 'rain bands', indicated by the red circle), however, should continue to affect us for many years to come just as it did in the years and decades leading up to 2012.
The only difference is that instead of the effects getting worse, because Nibiru was then on an inbound trajectory, they will be waning, because the colossal object is moving outbound at this point.
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Thanks again for sharing that informative and timely article Mike!
The puzzle pieces are fitting, the dominoes and the dots are all lined up, and there will be fireworks in the heavens!!! This all lining up with war in the Middle East, the London Olympics and the 9 of Av!!
The whole picture is almost complete…we can count the days and to our GLORIOUS DEPARTURE!!
As a side note to all this…the home I am living in has been foreclosed on and I will have to be out of here by August 1st…..I may not have to look for another place to live!!
Much love and blessings to all of you incredible doves, you have been my home away from HOME!! Cannot wait to meet you!!
Agape!!
Patti C.
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Part 1
A Summary of the Pre-Rapture Sign Posts
(Excerpted from The Millennium Prophecy - - with revisions)
Before we continue on with the rest of the Revelation, we should take some time out and review briefly the signs or warning events that precede the Rapture. This is a major event in the life of the Christian Church as well as secular human history so I would like to nail down the pre-Rapture event order one more time before we continue. The critics will love this list because it makes it easy to chew on my written opinion and start the spitting contest. Anyway, let’s review the things that Scripture says will have to happen before the Rapture takes place and the order in which they will happen.
A graphic representation of the time line outworking of the Six different Seal events/event sets would look something like this - - roughly:
First Seal } .————————-————————————>| Rapture Day
Second Seal } ———————————————>| Rapture Day
Third Seal } ———————————>| Rapture Day
Fourth Seal } ——————->| Rapture Day
Fifth Seal } .——---—>| Sixth Seal ?
Sixth Seal } —-->| Rapture Day
Please forgive my typeset “art” but it’s easier to see graphically how the Lord unleashes the Seal events sequentially but they end up over lapping each other and playing out simultaneously - - in repetitious “waves”. With the different pre-Rapture signs adding together during the End Times things can get a little confusing. But conceptually it’s not that hard to see what’s going on. Remember, heavy changes arrive when the Sixth Seal event list erupts because those events will be grabbing everyone’s attention forcibly - - very intrusive in people’s lives. Then on Rapture Day the only way to describe it is that E V E R Y T H I N G changes as the Christian Church is removed from Planet Earth.
1.) The appearance of false Christ’s and false teachers. Matthew 24:5; Mark 13:6; Luke 21:8;
Note: Although false teachers have been a problem for the Christian Church since the first century, for some reason there seemed to be a rise in this type of spiritual “challenge” in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries so that it is more common now.
2.) First Seal: An increase in war and threat of war (“rumors of wars”
between nations and groups. Matthew 24:6; Mark 13:7, 8; Luke 21:9, 10; Revelation 6:2.Note: Most likely this 1st Seal was broken with the outbreak of World War I and then followed by World War II and all the subsequent wars and skirmishes of the twentieth century - - a major war in every generation of the 20th century.
3.) Second Seal: A worldwide increase in capital murder, personal anger, ethnic rivalry, and community unrest. Revelation 6:4.
Note: From the best that I can tell, the 2nd Seal was broken with the 1994 eruption of ethnic violence between the Tutsi and Hutu people in Rwanda - - ending with 800,000 to a million murders. The violence between these two groups was different from the more familiar government sponsored mass murder of prior years… Turkey (Armenians), Russia, China, Germany, Cambodia, etc.. After Rwanda the ethnic and community unrest has continued erupting in numerous other places… East Temor (Indonesia), Iraq, Macedonia, United States (school campus, postal and corporate shootings), Bosnia, Chechnya, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Tibet, Philippines, Pakistan, Nigeria, Somalia, Sudan, Congo, Spain, England, Darfur, the never ending drama that surrounds Israel and the new waves of unrest in North Africa, Egypt, Iran and the Middle East.. Historically, government sponsored revolutions, abortion programs, race wars and mass murder efforts do kill larger numbers of people (especially so where socialism gets involved), but the more recent spontaneous eruption of ethnic and community unrest is something characteristically different. It seems to generate more from the people themselves - - a “grass roots” sort of thing.
4.) Third Seal: A shortfall in worldwide grain production that selectively affects wheat and barley but not oil or wine (olive and grape) production. Revelation 6:5, 6; Matthew 24:7; Mark 13:8; Luke 21:10, 11.
Note: The initial movement unusually high wheat prices began in December, 2007 and maxed out in February, 2008 at about $25 per bushel on the Minneapolis Exchange. Barley shortages followed thereafter and prices peaked in July, 2008. Prices for both grains came back down in the following months but will climb again as Wormwood squeezes world grain production with weather problems and production short falls. Wheat and barley will be in extremely short supply when the 6th Seal events start to play out and panic buying results in extremely high prices for these grains. It will put a major price squeeze on producers of bread, soup, chicken feed, pasta, breakfast cereals and beer. And the coming high prices will be compounded by monetary inflation issues.
5.) Another best guess I would insert here is the occurrence of earthquakes in various places as Wormwood gets closer to our orbital position. At various phase positions or “sweet points” the gravitational and EM fields will interact in such a way that old fault lines here on Earth are stressed enough to trigger earthquakes from plastic mantle deformations and tectonic/crust slippages. Some of the quakes will show up in odd places that have not had quake activity for long periods of time. There may also be more quake-related killer tsunami events (Sumatra, December 26, 2004; Samoa, September 29, 2009; Japan, March 12, 2011 - - with more to come). Also look for various types of crop failures as a result of changing weather/rainfall patterns with attendant food shortages. Matthew 24:7, Mark 13:8, and Luke 21:11.
6.) Fourth Seal: A combination of war, famine, disease pandemics and the animal kingdom out of control and directly attacking and killing people that is confined to an area defined somehow geographically as “a fourth of the earth”. Revelation 6:8; Luke 21:11.
Note: The applicable section of the Earth based on time zones where these types of activities and event seem to be happening is covered in The Millennium Prophecy but basically seems to be situated in the six times zones east of the Prime Meridian. At the very least this portion of the world needs to be watched carefully.
7.) Fifth Seal: The persecution of the Christian Church. Revelation 6:9 – 11; Matthew 24:9 – 14; Mark 13:9 – 13; Luke 21: 12 – 19; 1 Timothy 3:2 – 13.
Note: The persecution of the Christian Church has come in waves throughout its history. With the breaking of the Fifth Seal, the Lord points toward the martyrdom of His believers as a reason for breaking one of the Seals around The Book of Judgments and Worldwide Rulership Rights that was awarded to Him in Revelation 5. It means we can expect more Christian martyrs to be gathered in front of the Father’s throne as predicted. From the best that I can tell, this is where we are now in 2011 with the Seal events as warning signs.
8.) Sixth Seal: A combination of massive tectonic shifting (with earthquakes and volcanic eruptions) coupled with a simultaneous and prominent display of meteor and meteorite events as a Wormwood node ring grips the earth shakes things up. Also look for the moon to take on a red-orange color as Wormwood throws iron oxide dust into the atmosphere or as it enters the space between the Earth and the Moon. There will also be at least one major pyroclastic explosion similar to Mt. St. Helens (May, 1980). This sign also marks the end of the Fifth Seal persecution of the Christian Church. Rev 6:12 – 17; Joel 2:30, 31; Matthew 24:7, 17; Mark 13:8; Luke 21:11; 2 Peter 3:2 – 4.
Note: See the http://www.millenniumprophecy.com/sixthsealeventlist.php page for a more detailed discussion of this event list. There are some specific events/items that must be completed to validate the breaking of the Sixth Seal.
We should add item 8-B in here (depending on how the timing works out) that would be the announcement of a new 7 year Peace Accord / Treaty between Israel and the various Palestinian political factions (Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah, PLO, Jordan, et al). The Treaty may be countersigned by the various nations that are participating in the current negotiations but pay special attention to the participation of Jordan. Look for a provision that will allow the rebuilding of another Jewish Temple complex on the temple mount and probably some change of citizenship status for Palestinian people. The Treaty has to be made before it can be broken at the midpoint of the Tribulation by the newly formed anti-Christ. The question arises as to whether the announcement will occur before or after the Rapture of the Christian Church. It should occur on or about the same time but exactly which comes first is a good question. There might be announcements of progress before the Rapture and a full signing ceremony afterwards or the signing ceremonies may precede the Rapture. The anti-Christ (Beast) then breaks the Peace Accord Treaty at the 3½ year midpoint of the Tribulation in 2012 and commits the Abomination of Desolation in the newly reconstructed Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. The most recent formal treaty efforts continued at Annapolis under the Bush administration but will continue in various places under the Obama administration until a formal treaty is in place at/near the beginning of the seven-year Tribulation.
9.) A short period of worldwide (near) dead calm in the weather as the approach of Wormwood hits a phase position or “sweet point” for solar wind, solar capacitive charge effects. The main prevailing winds and jet streams just stop and the weather calms down as a result. Revelation 7:1 – 3.
10.) The marking of the 144,000 replacement witnesses - - a process that the Church will observe here on Earth for two weeks. Revelation 7:4 – 8. The formal seven-year Tribulation starts when the first replacement witness receives the mark on his forehead.
Note: This is the final preparation process before the Christian Church is removed from the Earth. The seven-year Tribulation time clock is officially ticking when the first replacement witness receives that first mark (the names of God the Father and God the Son) on his forehead. The marking process takes a couple weeks. The Christian Church is still on Planet Earth during this marking process and we get to meet some of these young men - - the ones who happen to be living in or traveling through our respective areas. If you happen to meet one of these Israelite young men, you should get to know them. Invite them home for lunch/dinner and ask how you can help advance their ministry. If they are a little confused about who they are, why those marks are on their forehead and what their ministry is all about, take some time to explain it to them using The Revelation and supporting scriptures. In my book, The Millennium Prophecy, I have written a special chapter, Those Marks on Your Forehead that explains the situation for them. You might want to have them look at that particular chapter. If you are a genuine believer in Christ Jesus for your soul salvation, then on Rapture Day you have to leave Planet Earth. The replacement witnesses will be staying behind to take the place of the Christian Church and continue preaching/teaching “the testimony of Jesus” (Revelation 1:9; 12:17; 19:10; 20:4
to the people still lost in sin. Do everything you can to help advance their ministry. You have to leave on Rapture Day. Your house, your car, your bank account, your job, your retirement funds - - everything you have here on Planet Earth - - will be left behind when you leave this world to be presented before the Father’s throne. Pass the baton TO these men so that they can continue the Lord’s ministry during the first half of the Tribulation. Again, pass the baton TO them. Don’t just throw it at them or drop it on the ground and make them pick it up. Use any/all your earthly resources to advance the initiation of their ministry of God’s word during the Tribulation. It will be a rough time. Do whatever you can to help them get started properly.Then on Rapture Day - - Two Weeks into the Tribulation “Time Zone”:
11.) A loud announcement shout by an archangel and a series of trumpet sounds that are sounded out on “the trumpet of God” and heard all around the world. 1Corinthians 15:52, 1Thessalonians 4:16.
Note: There could be 7 trumpet sounds. There could be 12 trumpet sounds. There could be 44 trumpet sounds - - or 87 trumpet sounds. However many there are there just are. St. Paul does not specify how many trumpet sounds there are going to be (and neither do any of the other apostles). God’s trumpet may be sounding continually for several minutes or for several hours. We just don’t know how long the process will take to retrieve the Christian believers from their grave sites around the world on Rapture Day. However long the retrieval process takes, it just takes.
12.) The resurrection of the Christian dead. 1Thessalonians 4:16
Note: Opening all the grave sites of the many generations Christian dead so that they can be resurrected and formally reunited with the Lord might take a little bit of time. If you are visiting a cemetery on Rapture Day (where a Christian loved one is buried) and you happen to notice that God has already raised up your believing relative, but nothing seems to be happening for you - - DON”T GET TOO EXCITED. The angels have to “dig up” a lot of folks who have been scattered around the landscape over the previous 20 centuries. What if they got buried under roads or shopping malls or large buildings or something else? The Lord has to arrange for each one of them to be released. Maybe some concrete or tarmac has to be broken up. Anything that holds His people captive in the grave has to be broken up, demolished or broken through so that the members of His Eternal Family can come out of their graves and join the party. Remember, the Christian believers who died while in a valid faith relationship with the Lord get to go FIRST. The empty graves are not a sign for believers. They are a kind of witness to the unbelievers who are being left behind. The open grave sites of the Christian believers will be very difficult for secular unbelievers and government hacks to “explain away” although they probably will try. Political and bureaucratic hacks are like that - - not properly connected with objective reality. It will get even more interesting if there is major damage to large buildings, roads, bridges or other expensive construction sites as the graves of believers are opened on Rapture Day. Imagine the confusion if the angels have to stop traffic to rip a bridge or a tall building apart to open a grave site. It won’t happen as much with modern construction since the building sites are generally excavated before the site is used for construction purposes but it is just about guaranteed to happen a few times as the Lord gathers His Church to Himself. No one who died in faith will be left behind - - NO ONE.
If you are a Christian believer who is still living on Rapture Day, then you have to wait until the Lord has secured all those who died in faith. So don’t get impatient about the resurrection-rapture scheduling. A lot of graves have to be emptied before you get to join the celebration. The Apostle Paul told us that the dead would rise first so that means that the dead will indeed rise first and THEN we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with the former generations of believers to meet the Lord in the air. OK, so be patient. If you have a valid believing faith in Christ then your turn will come but the truth is that the living will be the LAST ONES to join the party.
Actually, come to think of it, visiting a graveyard on Rapture Day where a lot of genuine Christians are buried would be an “interesting experience”. You would see a lot of graves suddenly being opened and those people being transformed into new glorified bodies before they are gathered up to meet the Lord. It would be an interesting experience that can never be repeated. Those of you who have video cams should get some good video pics of the graves being opened and the believers being issued new eternal bodies - - to leave as a video testimony for those who have been left behind. That would seriously torque some jaws if people could see a video like that. Of course the graveyards would be a mess and the maintenance people would be upset but, hey, we’re leaving! We have a PARTY to attend and we’re running “a little late”. Sorry about the mess. You can recycle most of those empty grave sites if you want. We won’t need them any more.
13.) Whenever the last trumpet sound is finally sounded out AFTER all the biologically dead Christian believers have been located and released from their grave sites, that’s it! It’s Rapture Time for the living believers and we’re out of here! As that last trumpet sound is finally sounded out the Rapture of the remaining living believers happens and the Christian Church is removed physically from the Earth. The Church age is then complete and the seven-year tribulation will already be under way by 14 or 15 days. 1Corinthians 15:50 – 56; 1Thessalonians 4:17; 5:9;
Note: Yes, we will be rescued from the “time zone” of the Tribulation (Revelation 7:14). And no, we will not have to suffer the “judgments” of the Tribulation (1Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 7:9 – 16). The true genuine/proper Tribulation “judgments” (starting with the Incineration Event) begin right after the Christian Church has been removed (Revelation 8:1, 2; and 8:6 – 13). Remember, The Revelation is in the correct serial presentation order as given (for the most part) and that’s how the events will unfold in real time - - as given in The Revelation presentation order.
14.) As the Christian Church vanishes from the face of the Earth, simultaneously, the Two Witnesses are dispatched from the throne room in heaven and appear in the City of Jerusalem to begin their prophetic ministry for the next 1260 days - - Revelation 11:3.
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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