Ali,

One more point that is beyond funny it is almost laughable. It would have been OK if it came from morons such as Gebrefenafent and Alamayehu01. But coming as it did from you it is amazing, may be a little sign of desperation is rubbing its shoulder on you. The fanatics have been desperate for some time. Now even the collected and the moderates are showing a sign of desperation.

You wrote: "Finally, I just want to remind you that international relation is purely determind by domestic affairs. So, the credibility of Meles will only be rated based on his success or failure in his domestic policies. If he shows rapid change in his poverty allevation and good governance programs, every nation will be more than happy to strenghen its relations with the government. In deed, they might be ready to re-double their support. That is why I don't worry about the diaspora character assassination and hatrad politics."

A lesn or two. First, Meles does not have decades. His days are numbered. Alleviating poverty and regaining the confidence and the support of foreign nations would take, let us say, a decade or two. By that time, Meles is either in jail, dead or exciled. I agree with you in that the credibility of Meles will only be determined by his success or failure in his domestic policies. He has been judged by the nationals. He is a loot, a murderer and a moron judging him by his court case in Virginia. I did not mean to get on your nerves. But all your thinking facilities have been decimated by Mamo Qilo aka Ankasa Doro. All you have is your nerve. Poor thing. I am starting to feel sorry for you.

Mamo Qilo aka
Ankasa Doro aka
Sebara Kirar aka
Kedada MiTad aka
etc

Check for bank accounts in England, Switzerland or Sudan.
Check for relationships with the current president of Somalia who was staying in Kenya and where they were depositing their money. Meles used to stay in Somalia during his rebel life.
Examine his family bank account and the amount deposited and where it came from.
Where was Meles’s bank account before he came to power? How many bank accounts has he had?

Please ignore Ali and his like, who seem to be dying to get some attention, and go on with your wonderful ideas. Ali and his like are only worried and disturbed because they benefited from the looting and killings of Ethiopians by Meles, Bereket, and Co. and see their comfortable future coming to its end in front of their eyes. Jumping into discussions with deviated views and questions are Ali’s known tactics as instructed by Meles and Co. and are under his job description to divert attention from issues of concern to Ethiopians. He changes his name to Kebede, Ibrahim, etc. depending on the issue.

Whenever Meles/TPLF is cornered or is in trouble, you will find Ali limping here and there to distract and try to deceive.

Endreas Eshete should be sued for frequently allowing troops to enter the university campause and also officially laying in VoA that students are not protesting...and everybody should participate and help to compile criminal records of each individuals which are immensly massive.

It is a very good chance for Ethiopian in Dispora to sue in US court for their 14 years crime. We shouldn't loose the opportunity

Email: ethiopeople

City: DC

Hi all I thought the following excerpt (hope it is not too long) from a recently published document (titled, perpetrators ....shall be brought to justice) might help on issues concerning prosecutions and other mechanisms. You may find the full document here:
http://www.nazret.com/php/uploadnews/search.php?misc=search&subaction=showfull&id=1124394006&archive=&cnshow=news&ucat=5&start_from=&

Excerpt

The Ethiopian government has the obligation to investigate and prosecute the serious state sponsored or condoned human rights violations under conventional international law as well as under Ethiopian Law. The government™s conventional international law obligation stems from treaties and conventions to which Ethiopia is a party, including the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the Convention against Torture and other Degrading and Inhumane Treatment or Punishment. Article 2 of the ICCPR provides that each state party has the duty to ensure that victims of human rights violations have an effective remedy, which has been interpreted to include compensation as well as investigation and prosecution in cases of conducts giving rise to criminal responsibility. The Torture Convention more specifically imposes a duty on states to investigate and punish acts of torture committed in their territory or by their nationals. The duty to prosecute gross human rights violations is also reiterated in various other international instruments and decisions of numerous international and regional organs. The United Nations Commission on Human Rights, in its resolution 1999/32, has stressed " that those who encourage, order, tolerate or perpetrate such acts (torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment) must be held responsible and severely punished. "
In addition to the clear proscriptions and penalties provided for under the Ethiopian penal Code, the 1994 constitution reaffirms the duty of the Ethiopian government to punish certain egregious crimes by exempting such crimes from the application of statutes of limitation and pardon or amnesty. Thus, Article 28 (1) of the Constitution states that statutes of limitation shall not apply to persons charged with crimes against humanity. The same Article also deprives iethe legislature or any other organ of statela off the power ioto pardon or give amnesty with regard to such offenses [as]-inhuman punishment, forcible disappearances, summary executions, acts of genocide.l, Moreover, the Ethiopian government has decided to prosecute officials of the previous regime for crimes ranging from minor offenses to genocide, a process that is going on for over a decade. However, the government has failed to show a similar determination when it comes to the egregious human rights committed since it came to power 14 years ago. Its standard response to allegations of wide spread abuses by domestic and international human rights groups and observers consists of angry reactions ranging from a blanket dismissal to blaming the accusers and the victims. In the handful of cases where it was pressured to conduct an investigation of sorts, the investigations were partial, non-transparent and often led to outcomes that either absolved the culprits or found few scapegoats. Accordingly, even if the government is to initiate an investigation into the recent abuses, such an investigation cannot be expected to be impartial and credible. In fact, recent pronouncements by senior TPLF/EPRDF officials justifying the massacre and repression make it unlikely that any investigation would take place despite calls from human rights groups and influential international actors. 20 However, the Ethiopian authorities, members of the army and security forces, must realize that the government cannot shield perpetrators of crimes against humanity and torturers from possible prosecution before an international tribunal or the national courts of other countries. In fact, refusal to investigate and prosecute or conducting a fake investigation provides a further proof of the implication of senior government officials as superiors or commanders.
Prosecution before an International Tribunal
There is currently no international criminal tribunal that has automatic jurisdiction over atrocities committed in Ethiopia. The territorial jurisdiction of the recently established International Criminal Court extends only to crimes committed in the territories, or by the nationals of state parties and Ethiopia is not a party to the Statute establishing the court. Nonetheless, the ICC can try crimes committed in Ethiopia, notwithstanding its non-party status, if the situation is referred to it by the United Nations Security Council. This was recently done with respect to crimes committed in Darfur, The Sudan. Alternatively, the United Nations Security Council can establish an ad hoc tribunal dealing only with crimes committed in Ethiopia. Such a tribunal can take two forms: a mixed Ethiopian-International tribunal, as is the case with the tribunals established in Sierra Leone and East Timor, for instance or a purely international tribunal, as is the case with the Tribunals for the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda.
The only hurdle in both of the above respects is convincing members
of the Security Council that the situation in Ethiopia poses a threat to
international peace and security under Chapter VII of the UN Charter. While
this may appear to be insurmountable, there is enough reason to believe
that the current crisis and standoff could lead to a wider conflict that would
be highly detrimental to the stability of the whole region unless the
government is pressured to desist from repression and inflammatory
rhetoric. As such, the current crisis poses, at the very least, as much a
threat to international peace and security as the crisis in Haiti that
prompted the Security Council resolution authorizing the Operation to
Restore Democracy, in 1994. 21 In the above respects, the recent letter to
Prime Minister Meles Zenawi signed by 13 members of the United States
Congress reflects an acute realization of magnitude of the threat that current
situation poses. 22
Prosecution before National Courts Exercising Universal Jurisdiction
The understanding that crimes against humanity and other egregious human rights violations are matters of international concern has prompted a number of countries to exercise universal jurisdiction over such crimes no matter where they are committed. Such countries include Austria, Belgium, Burundi, Cameroon, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, Finland, France, Ghana, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxemberg, The Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, and the UK. 23 In several of these countries, the presence of the suspect is not a requirement for the initiation of criminal investigation while some of them require that the accused be present at the trial stage. On the other hand, all State Parties to the Convention Against Torture, which comprises about 138 countries including the ones listed above, are under an obligation to prosecute or extradite suspected torturers where the latter happen to be in their territories. Accordingly, perpetrators of gross human rights abuses in Ethiopia could be prosecuted for crimes against humanity or acts of torture outside Ethiopia. Likewise, the victims of human rights abuses can claim compensation in many of the above jurisdictions either as part of the criminal proceedings or separately.
Immigration Related Consequences for Perpetrators of Human Rights Abuses
Many countries have become increasingly reluctant to grant asylum
or refugee status to individuals suspected of serious rights abuses even if
they do not exercise universal jurisdiction on any of the grounds mentioned
above. The United States Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Act of 2004, is
the most recent demonstration of the above trend. Section 5501 of the said
Act, which amends the relevant sections of the Immigration and Nationality
Act 24 , provides for the inadmissibility and deportability of ifany alien who,
outside the United States, has committed, ordered, incited, assisted, or
otherwise participated in the commission oflm acts of torture or extrajudicial
killings. In fact, according to the amendment, even naturalized citizens can
be stripped of their citizenship and deported if they were found to have
committed acts of torture and extrajudicial killings abroad. 25
Complaint and Investigation Mechanisms within the United Nations System and
the African Union
There are a number of procedures under the United Nations system
which can be employed by victims or other individuals to bring complaints
against states. These procedures are not criminal proceedings in the sense
that they are not aimed at establishing individual criminal responsibility and
awarding punishment on perpetrators but are directed at enforcing the
obligations of states under international human rights law. The proceduresare divided in to two categories, treaty based complaint procedures and the
procedures before the United Nations Human Rights Commission. The former includes the complaint procedure provided under the Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the Convention against Torture. Although Ethiopia is party to both conventions, individuals cannot bring complaints using the above procedures because it did not sign the relevant Optional Protocol and declaration (with respect to the Convention Against Torture).
The procedures of the United Nations Human Rights Commission on the other hand are open to complaints against any member state of the United Nations. Most relevant to the present Ethiopian context are the following thematically organised mechanisms, known as Special Procedures. The Working Group on Enforced or Involuntary Disappearances, The Special Rapporteur on Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, The Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial, Summary or Arbitrary Executions, The Working Group on Arbitrary Detention, The Special Rapporteur on the Promotion and Protection of the Right to Freedom of Opinion and Expression, and Special Representative of the Secretary-General on the situation of human rights defenders.
Any or all of the above procedures can be employed to bring to the
UN™s attention the specific human rights abuses in Ethiopia and demand the
intervention of the pertinent organs. Thus, complaints may be filed by or on
behalf of the families of victims of torture, arbitrary killings, enforced
disappearances, torture, arbitrary and human rights defenders seeking
immediate relief, compensation or the initiation of on site investigation by a
UN appointed organ. Relief can also be sought with respect to the banning of
demonstrations and political assemblies by filing a complaint with the
Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Opinion and Expression. 26
The African Charter on Human and Peoples™ Rights also provides
complaint procedure for violations of the rights guaranteed under the
charter and international human rights law. Accordingly, individuals, non-
governmental organisations and member states can file a complaint before
the African Commission for Human and Peoples™ Rights. 27

For Lord's sake you Tultula Bozenes, Stop dreaming of counter-suit & bring your evidences of your total lie allegations against the PM. Don not try to confuse the publice by shifting the focus!! The question here is... where is your evidence for your tutltula weres???
Shame on You!! & Shame on your listners - enanten semtoa Lemiyamn Yiblagnilet!!! Tebab, Denkoro Neftegna hulu......

Email: finfine@oromo.com

City: Finfine

Finfine,

You keep on asking, where is the evidence for the allegation.

The evidences will be provided to their lawyers when they will have their day in court, but not to you on the Intenet. You got it?

Email: gwakgira@worldnet.att.net

We love your ideas and many Ethiopians are supporting you. There is no doubt that you working in the best interest of Ethiopia and that is why you have become the threat to Meles and Co. Independent media and democracy are Meles and Co.’s nightmare.

Finfine

I see how TPLF cadres are confused, desperate and worried just like their leader Meles. As usual they are resorting to their ignorant and primitive comments. They simply lack the civil discourse and the ability to communicate effectively with anybody. When will you guys ever learn that the two-faced, separatist group TPLF has no credibility in Ethiopia at all? You cannot stay in power by force with primitive and divisive plans. That is why CUD was overwhelmingly elected. You are standing alone with your primitive autocratic and authoritative style while the civilized world is telling you to step down.

finfine,

Haaaaaaaaahahaaaaa, you are not in Addis Ababa you can not call Agazi to harass and kill. "Neftega" do you konw what it means? get out of the woods for a moment your brain is still in the woods. "Neftega".
Neftega means one that is not easily defetead or taken advantge of.(mebtun askebari) the white man,colonizer of Africa hated Neftega most African countries whish they had NEFETGA.

Where is the money?????? you and the CEO/PM Zenawi know where it is. Tell us, is it in the name of the party? how do you (cadres) get paid? is it in the form of sahres? tell us how?? remember you came out of the woods look what you have now. Nobody has to tell us obout the rotten system,and the empire you built in the name of your party. it is out there in the open you killd for it too. you will kill again,and again. nefesegedayehulu! ataferm?/rim.

Email: nina@hotmail

City: addis

One possible source of evidence is the charges Meles an Co filed against former members of TPLF/EPRDF including Tamirat Layne and Seye Abereha.

In the charges filed against these people TPLF must have indicated how and where these accused stole money and deposited. The current TPLF officials must be using similar tactics.

Also those now in prison or out of TPLF's favor should be called as witnesses as they know the crimes committed by their former commerades.

Any publications on the charges and court decisions on people accused of Musena should be used as one source of information.

If Meles was in the bushes fighting to 'liberate us', where did his wife, brother...get the capital to be an overnight richs?

We should help Tinsae Radio and otthe Ethiopians whom Meles try to silence by helping them pay for the legal fee.

Wow! It is hard to believe that Meles is suing a radio station because they reported that he has a bank account, but it is ok for him to murder innocent people and get away with it. How could this be possible? It doesn’t make sense. Meles could have used the money to feed the hungry instead of wasting the money on lawyers. What a shame!! This ToTa face has stepped on us. I will donate what I can to Tinsae radio. Please let us do our best to help them.

Please check what others have done already to get an idea of how you want to proceed. The Anuak have already taken action against the GELGEL FASCHISTOCH.
Check out www.anuakjustice.org/

"For crimes against humanity, a claim has been filed against the Ethiopian government at International Criminal Court at The Hague, Netherlands, Anuak Justice Council, June 13, 2005"

Email: nile@nile-hospital.ccom

Dear "HAGOS":
Atkeld! you are not a Tigrayan and you cannot full us. What you are asking and what you are dreaming even doesnot make an amhara as well. It puts you in the "neftenga" that is the radical amhara who used to kill and oppress all Ethiopian people. You are acting like Hailu Araya. A weak 6th killo English teacher who made himself close to mengistu when legesse asfaw killed 2500 hawzen people.
'Hagos' is Tigrayan name but not you .
Shame on you to try to full us

Ali,

Mr. Legal analyst, Where are you? Are you now convinced that Tinsae is playing this law case brilliantly, by politicizing the legal case and focusing on winning the political bottle even at the risk of losing the legal case. I know you wished they kept to the legal issues strictly, but from our point of view it would be stupid not to poliicize the case and score political points. As I told you the most that can happen is Tensae would be fined trillion dollars and will be forced to retract the story. All they need to do is close Tensae and open Tinsae II, incorporated in Maryland rather than in VA. All they wold need is to have new board members.

I told you your master was very stupid to bring this to court. You may say he needs to do that to clear his name. As I have told you in the past his name is more dirty than a radio active waste and cannot be cleared. No bleach can clean it up. Any question?

Ankasa Dor aka
Sebara Kirar aka
Mamo Qilo

Mamo Quilo,

I am still interested on the legal process. You have the right to use it for any political campaign.

The validity of the case should be judged by its legal merit than its PR service.

I am not intersted to discuss on issues of political rhetoric and I am inviting lawyers to have legal talk'

Bye Mamo,

Ali

Email: Ali001-2005@yahoo.com

City: Addis Ababa

I think it would be a good Idea if the acusers physically appear at the US court, to show his or their respect for the united states law and constitution. 'Law suit by proxy' is disrespect of the US court that is handling the case, by implication to American Laws and Its constitution.

Otherwise Meles and his 'Eritrean *******s' group's game in American Courts is understimating the justice system of USA.They can play in thier cangroo courts in Ethiopia which they tyranicall clinch to power,but not in the country of Liberty and Freedom.

So strongly request the prime Minister and his mafia ring including his wife to appear in court as acuisers
to show respect to American Justice system.They are not magnanimus than the American Law.

Email: simon.africanfestival.net

Ali,

If your interest is legal in form and substance you are discussing the wrong issue.

Sebara Kirar

I think meles is the most foolish wise person any body can think of. He acused tensae only because he taught that the news may change the atitude of the people while strugling for survival. In any case he is a killer and I am sure he will face the court just like Sadam or other, it is only a matter of time. BUT IF WE WANT THE TIME TO BE SOONER WE NEED TO BE UNITED AGAINST HIM BY HELPING TENSAE.

Death to tyrants and killers.

Victory to the Ethiopian people.
Last but least "Ali why don't you go to hell with meles"

Dear Selam Betigil:

"doro bitalim tirewan" yilal amhara siterit. I did not say I am from this or that origin. But you like the eleder brother of Satan(Satan has no any other elder brother but Melese)are invaded by oncogenic virus called ethnovirus. Why don't you get cure or die from this malignancy of ethinicity? If you are not Melese himself (Ato Abebe, Ato legese or whatever fake name he has), you are his spy. Otherwise I know what my Tigrean brothers and sisters think inside. They know that Shabia used Tigrean youths for decades for libration of Ertrea. They know Etrea is built under the blood of Tigreans. They know Shabia still fulls Tigreans as it does for decades. The coordinator of all this evil act is "Ato Abebe". Therefore, Tigreans should play primary rule to prosecute the devil. Devil comes in different forms and so does Meles. I am sure, because meles is made of threads of lies, to escape the charges he will say "my name is not Meles but Abebe" in the court house. He will call you as witness. I will stand by the prosecutors side and we will meet there.

Hagos,
You said it all thank you. The Devil,Cadres,agazi,Selam betegl are animals their mind is still in the woods.

BBC
Meles - We are not out of the woods yet. We are trying to get out of it. We've made some progress. But we are not out of the woods yet............

Email: nina@hotmail

City: addis

the trouble with melese and his co is that they think that they are the best, the know it all. at the end we have discovered that they just forcefully misled us.

City: Addis

Dear Mamo,

I am addicted to Tensai radio, they are doing a great job. I enjoy the news and the music. I have got an idea, as part of their fund raising, by consuting some artists, why can't they release an album (collection of the music they play on their show). I will definitely buy the collection.

Let me know what you think.

Love to Ethiopia

City: AA

Mina,

I must admit that I have never listened to Tensae radio. I think your idea is great to help them raise fund. I will support them in any type of fundraising. Meles has given them a New Year's gift. They need to be ready for a counter sue even if he withdraws his case. We need to form "Lawyers support group for Tensae Radio" This can be a restricted email discussion forum that ER can organize.

I know for example, Professor Getache Haile's daughter was the first black woman editor of the Harvard Law Review. Her American husband who graduated with her from HArvard is considered to be one of the great legal minds in the US. There are very many. How do we tap into their talent.

Ankasa Doro aka
Mamo Qilo

what will happen if tensi radio loss its case?some of you may think Tensai 2nd will follow.i very much doubt.this decision will frastrate all radio stations and websites like ER who has been writing what ever you like irrespective of the possble legal consequnces.the west has been a "free land" where you can write any thing about the ethiopian gov. and its officials with out fear of facing law suit.the ethiopian government ,though,late has finally come with best solution which can silence you with lesser cost.i think you have to look for some other tactic

Email: bdesalegnb@yahoo.com

City: addis

Meles should be sued as a criminal who executed and organized, with master minding the killings of hundreds of Ethiopians, whether Tigreans, Amhara, Oromo, Gurage , Afar, Kembata or Gambella people. He should stand before the court of law as a killer since 1978 is killing. Ample evidence are available with the then Tigre Libration Front members, in Tigray and most recent evidence since 1991. He deserve death in public execution or hanging him in Addis Ababa. We patriotic tigreans who are struggling to bring him down, we who were in bush fighting agains Derg are evidence for this. We Tigreans must unite and stand against this tyrants with our brothers and sisters in other parts of Ethiopia.

Email: Ahagos@yahoo.com

City: Washington

Mina Wrote "I have got an idea, as part of their fund raising, by consuting some artists, why can't they release an album (collection of the music they play on their show). I will definitely buy the collection."

Mina:

This is a good idea and I am all for it. It is no use to shout slogans on this forum unless we put our finacial muscel behind the effort. I do not belive that Tinsae initiated this jsut to hear us say BIRTU as there is no shortage of that.

I propsed the following else where and and repeat it here:

1. Put all the inspiring songs by Solomon Tkalegne on one CD and include all the songs that frequently play on Tinsae on one CD.

2. Find other inspirational singers from the Ormomo and Tigrai etc culture to make it complete

3. Include the Poem EMBEGNE NEW DEGU on each CD to make an album of 2 cd's.

This can go a long way raise funds as well as intensify the resistance.

Email: nile@nile-hospital.ccom

I am not sure of the American law and to what extent the counter claim could be made use of ,but if it does the folowing might be of help:

Background on the Alien Tort Claims Act
Passed in 1789, the ATCA grants jurisdiction to U.S. federal courts to hear complaints by foreign nationals for torts in violation of the “law of nations or a treaty of the United States.”

Beginning in 1981, in the landmark Filartiga decision, U.S. courts have recognized that a limited number of international crimes including genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, torture, “disappearances,” extrajudicial executions, forced labor and prolonged arbitrary detention, violate the "law of nations” and that claims for such abuses therefore can be brought under the ATCA.

The Torture Victim Protection Act of 1991 (TVPA) approved of these court decisions and extended rights to U.S. citizen plaintiffs to bring claims against individuals acting under "actual or apparent authority, or color of law, of any foreign nation,” for torture and extrajudicial killing.

Atrocity victims normally encounter enormous difficulties in vindicating their rights. In most cases, the victims cannot seek redress in the country where the abuse occurred. ATCA and TVPA cases provide a U.S. forum for victims to tell their stories to a court and can create a judicial record of their suffering. Although awards under ATCA and the TVPA, including punitive damages, may never be recovered, they are meant to send a message to others that such conduct is unacceptable. Victims are empowered and perpetrators are, in effect, barred from the United States for fear of recovery action. The suits also allow U.S. courts to articulate principles of international law applicable in the United States

Under the ATCA and the TVPA, cases have been brought against the former dictator of Haiti, Prosper Avril; the self-proclaimed leader of the Bosnian Serbs, Radovan Karadzic; a Guatemalan defense minister and Indonesian military officials, among many others. In a class-action civil suit against the estate of Ferdinand Marcos, the former dictator of the Philippines who had substantial assets in the United States, victims are receiving a large sum of money. Three victims from El Salvador filed suit against two top Salvadoran Generals, Jose Guillermo Garcia and Carlos Eugenio Vides Casanova, who were living in retirement in Florida. In 2002, a jury in West Palm Beach Florida found the generals liable for torture and ordered them to pay $54.6 million in damages to the three plaintiffs.

More recently, ATCA suits have been filed against multinational corporations accused of direct complicity in crimes committed by foreign governments and their security forces. For example, plaintiffs suing the oil company UNOCAL allege that it hired highly abusive Burmese military units to provide security for a gas pipeline project, and that the military used forced labor and committed other grave human rights abuses in direct furtherance of UNOCAL’s interests. The oil company Talisman has been sued for allegedly allowing Sudanese military forces to use its facilities to stage operations against civilians, and for providing vehicles and fuel to those forces. ExxonMobil has been accused of providing equipment and logistical support to Indonesian forces who killed and tortured civilians. None of these cases has yet gone to trial.

Email: hagere@ethiopia.com

City: addis abeba

Hager Wedad,

Thank you all NeTsanet Radio needs is a window of opportunity to raise these issues for public consumption, with the print and electronic media in mind. They should maximize this and pay not too much attention to the legal issue itself. They shoud also try to stretch the case for years. When it cames to twisting things and throwing political punch, they can count on me. I am a cruel SOB. Hard to ignore and hard to argue with.

Abo Paulos aka
Mamo Qilo

Mr. Negiso:

1. What if Tinsae lost the case? An equally valid qustion would have been "What if EPRDF fractured along ethinic lines of its own making?" That is more likely to happen than Tinsae loosing the case.

2. Even if Tinsae lost the case, it stands to gain more for our folks in bondage,including you in the long run.

3. "the west has been a "free land" where you can write any thing about the ethiopian gov. and its officials with out fear of facing law suit--"

Has been? I did not hear it is about to end unless the whole TPLF plans to uproot and move to Verginia to end it. Wouldn't that be a God send for the people of our land?! In any case, facing a law suit only has the desired fear- effect in TPLF terriory were the jusdge,witness and jury is one and the same-not in the West.

4. Who said ER or Tinsae is "writing anything"? By this I suppose you mean unsubstanciated facts? Rest assured they know the laws and cutoms of the country in which they operate and do not get their reporting guide lines from highscool drop outs.

5. Can you tell us how they intend to pay for the lawyers that charge 500 dollars an hour per lawyer on thier meager salary of 400 dollars per month?? Oh, never mind I forgot that they will explain it to the world neatly in court. Hope that their Chinese friends have told them the ancient Oriental saying " one who pokes a stick into the bush will end up awakening a snake"

Email: nile@nile-hospital.ccom

Tensae radio sued by Melese & Co.?the question's is Melese going to the witness stand?this's is not woyane grand jurry where you can intimidate people or buy.

Email: DillingerJ1@aol.com

City: DC

I think the rare aportunity when the judje ask melese did you not?have?how many?when melese attornies screaming?over rule.

Email: DillingerJ1@aol.com

City: DC

I'm sure the judje will ask the witness on stand including Azeb Golla how she bought the house in NY.

Email: DillingerJ1@aol.com

City: DC

WHO SOLD THE HOUSE TO HER?WHOSE MONEY?IF SHE SAID SHE BOUGHT THE HOUSE THE REAL STATE AGENT WILL STAND AS WITNESS THEN THE WHOLE THING WILL BE BE HELL FREZZ TILL MELESE START TALKING.

Email: DillingerJ1@aol.com

City: DC

I hope one of the victims parents sue the Ethiopian Govt. leader Meles in international Court. Hopefully, some International lawyer that work for Human Rights can to take this case. If Meles sue people b/s they said something he didn’t agree with then he definitely should stand for trial for giving an order to kill innocent people including children. He shouldn’t get away with murder.

I think, one of the important questions ought to be about his role and accountability in the massacre of the 40 people in Addis. If I am not mistaken, the NUREMBERG trial makes it clear that not only those who did the shooting but also who order even implicitly are legally responsible. What makes it interesting in this case is that the prime minister took over the security forces the night or so before and even came on television to announce it. That, legally, is very incriminating. Remember many of the defendents at Nuremberg did not even have to give written order. Now, the only difference is in the case of South Africa's peace and reconcilation commitee where the guilty were accused on the basis of proximity to the crime, but the peace and reconcilation commitee had a different purpose, therefore the ones giving order on the top in almost all cases were let off the hook.

Good luck!!
Tsema

Email: gedion101@yahoo.com

City: New York

This is what I am expecting of-Melese & Co. must be suit. The gangs must be cracked down. They have been killing innocent citizens. They have been stealing great deal of wealth and they want to continue these intolarable actions.

We all must do all effort to bring them to justice.

Bravo Tensae Radio.

Long Live Ethiopia

Email: gone_p97@yahoo.com

City: Atlanta

Mr. Negiso:

I am not living in the US so I do not listen to any of the radios you mentioned other than Tinsae. If as you say those other radios are racists I condemn them.

I am simply defending Tinsae as they did not call Meles a thif. Instead, they simply reported what was being said by othres and the story did not originate from Tinsae. Reporting by quoting others ( giving credit) is the accepted manner of rporting -I think even in develpoing countries. For this, Meles thought he found the perfect oportunity to kill an ulternate source of information to our people by simply by bringing charges aginst Tinsae under the disgise of defamation. Let us face it, the whole lot have not got much of an honour to protect to begin with and they know that deep inside. You may hate all the radio stations, but do you see the more sinister game behind this particular law suite? That is what is bothering me.

I an not aware of Alamudi's story and can not comment on tht. I do think he is a person of integrity quite unlike the others and he is doing a lot of good for Ethiopia. I do not condemn him for supporting EPRDF becasue it is his right. It is also clear that he gives to all and not just EPRDF.

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Congragulation on your consideration to get order of a court to depose Melese.
ST

Email: sintayehu.tsehay@wuk.at

City: Vienna/austria

""Tensae Radio lawyers are considering to obtain a court order to depose Meles Zenawi while in New York.""


Just do it for God's sake we need to see action and not talk only!!

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Ethiopian Government Violently Quashes Protests in Addis Ababa



Ethiopian Student Association International
PRESS RELEASE April 23, 2001 Posted to the web April 23, 2001



Addis Ababa



At least 39 Ethiopians were killed and over 250 wounded by police gunfire on April 18 as lashes between Ethiopian police and civilians escalated in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, following student protests demanding greater academic and political freedom.



Chronology of events (complied from reports by BBC, Agence France Presse, Reuters, Daily Monitor, UN Integrated Regional Information Network, Pan African News Agency, Addis Tribune, and Ethiopian News Agency-no reports seen to date on CNN or Associated Press): Tuesday, April 10: Over 3,000 students at Addis Ababa University started boycotting classes to press several demands, including: The re- instatement of the student council The right to have council representatives nominated by students rather than university officials Resumption of publication of the banned student newspaper Representation on the university senate A say in the nomination of the university president and drafting of the university charter.



Wednesday, April 11: While students were holding a peaceful demonstration, hundreds of police armed with rifles and batons invaded the campus, where they violently beat and shot at students. About 50 students were hospitalized, several with severe injures, includes head injuries and broken arms and legs. Other students were arrested.



Fleeing students were pursued to their dormitories, where pools of blood, broken batons, shattered glass, and bullet holes in the wall were later witnessed by BBC's Nital Bahalla, who photographed injured students and a wall and floor spattered with blood. Monday, April 16: A second round of talks involving student leaders and government officials reportedly deadlocked over the timing of the withdrawal of the armed police from campus. The Ministry of Education gave the students a deadline to return to classes by noon Wednesday or face permanent expulsion from the university.



Tuesday April 17: In the midst of a peaceful rally by university and secondary school students outside Addis Ababa University campus, a group of about 100 protestors started throwing rocks and bottles at the police. Hundreds of riot police then trapped the protestors along a small road and charged at them from all directions.



Here is the eye-witness report of BBC's Nital Bhalla, who characterized the incidents she witnessed at "brutal". As the rioters dispersed, the special force officers pursued them beating them mercilessly, even as the rioters continued surrendered and pleaded with them to stop. Many lay motionless on the ground as the police continued to beat and kick them. Some of the officers stormed the homes of civilians living and working in the area, looking for more of the rioters, but finding none then began beating women and young children. As I tried to record the screams of the women, they turned on me and began pushing and shoving me out of the way. They snatchedmy camera as I tried to take pictures of the atrocities, saying that I should not portray Ethiopian to the world in this way. When I protested, they grabbed the sound recorder and threw it to the ground smashing it to pieces.



At least two people had been killed by police gunfire by Tuesday evening, and many more wounded. On Tuesday evening, protestors set fire to eight cars parked at the Organization for National Examination.



Wednesday April 18: Long before the noon deadline fro students to return to their classes, sounds of automatic rifles and ambulance sirens were heard in various areas of the city. Cars and pedestrians fled from the directions the gunshots were being heard.



Two students were killed when police forced themselves into the Menelik II High School. One was severely batoned on the head and the other was hit by a rubber bullet on the head. Over 15 ambulances were witnessed coming in and out of the school compound to remove the many injured. Students sought refuge in neighboring churches and mosques. Hundreds were later rounded up by the police in spite of protesting clergy, forced into military trucks, and driven 20 miles away from the

city to the Ethiopian Police College at Sendafa.



The Ethiopian government warned opposition political parties to "refrain from trying to Exploit the situation and promote anarchy in the city, "and closed the university indefinitely. Local schools were closed until Monday.



Thursday April 19: The streets were clam as police patrolled in armored vehicles.



Parents whose children had not returned home gathered at the mortuary gates. Families demanded to know the whereabouts of the arrested students.



The opposition Ethiopian Democratic Party (EDP), reported that one of their members, Tawfic Lale weshengo, was shot dead by security forces at this home, and that about 40 EDP members were arrested, including secretary general Lidetu Ayalew and executive memberTamirat Tarekegn. EDP President Admasu Gebyhew denied the arrested members had any role in the violence. "We do not entertain violence as a means of political struggle," he told Reuters. "We are against the use of violence."



"Unless the government takes tough and appropriate actions, it has become difficult to maintain peace and security of the public," the federal police said in a statement released to the press. The statement also said that "the so-called human rights organization have attempted to snatch weapons from the riot police." State radio and television referred to demonstrators as "hoodlums and thugs".



Amnesty International waned that Ethiopian security forces were using "excessive force against students and other demonstrators" and said security forces had reportedly fired at demonstrators and were continuing to round up people. Hospitals could "hardly cope with the number of those injured".Solidarity protest have taken place at other universities and colleges throughout the country. The body of a dead student was found in Michele in northern Ethiopia, after he had taken part in peaceful protests there against police brutality at Addis Ababa University.



Among the US organizations that have expressed concern about the injured and arrested students are the New York Academy of Sciences, Ethiopia Student Association International, Stanford University Ethiopian Students Union, San Jose State University Ethiopian Students Association, UC Berkeley Ethiopian Students Association Alumni, Delaware State University Ethiopian Students Union, and UC Davis Ethiopian Students.



Copyright © 2001 Ethiopian Student Association International. Distributed by

AllAfrica Global Media (allAfrica.com).

Email: nina@hotmail

City: addis

Folks,

Don't sterch too much because you will finally be forced to admit that all the bla...bla.. are bubbles.It is like "GUM MEZGEN". You have no facts at hand and you are fully ignorant of international law and international relations. Your lawyers are decieving you.

Finally, all the lies and propaganda will be decimated easily.

Stop your day dream and try to open your eyes to facts.
Regards,

Email: Alemayehu01-2005@yahoo.com

City: Addis Ababa

Facts


Tuesday, June 14, 2005

What the government is doing is terrible. My son was protesting and was shot four times just because he tried to save a woman from being shot. I hope that the international community will help us.
Charles Zenawi, Addis Ababa

I have friends out in Ethiopia and I have just come back from a three month trip. While out there I did not meet one person planning to vote for the party in power, except those scared not to. Everyone wanted the opposition. There was huge tension, rumours spread suggesting the party would refuse to step down. What has happened does not surprise me, yet I'm shocked and scared. The current party does not know human rights.
Anon, UK, Beds


I am also a witness. The shooting was everywhere, even though it was very serious in places like Merkato. What I can understand from this killing is that they wanted to kill and wound as many protesters as they can and blame the opposition parties.
Nebiat, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia


I'm a medical intern doctor in Black Lion Hospital. What I have seen today is beyond my imagination. I couldn't believe Ethiopian troops could shoot and kill a sixteen year old female high school student who was shot in the head. The hospital is crowded with victims of violence by this unlawful government, we are facing with a significant shortage of blood, and other emergency medicines, even gauzes and hydro-peroxide for wound cleansing is out. People are everywhere.

Crying mothers are disrupting life saving efforts by the medical team when they find their son/daughter has been dead. There is too much screaming and total havoc. Please America, the UK, the West - where is the compassion for innocent human life? This government will destroy the country and will lead it to tribal warfare if it is not stopped. I have to go now. I am just taking a break to check the BBC News. Please help us.
Yohannes Seyoum, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

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City: addis

Facts:

HT - They did not have a single gun amongst them?

Meles - I have not heard of any guns here.

HT - No guns at all?

Meles - Uhm.

HT - Even the police are not claiming they had guns?

Meles - Uhm.

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Ato Hagos:
here you are !!!
The big and foulsmelling discharge idea of yours is that you believe Eritreand were liberatd by the hands of the Tigreans. This sentimet itself tells who you are. No tigryan believes that TPLF liberated Eritrea but they helped each other in toppling your father derg as your CUD and UEDF are trying to do so.
so ayte hagos chenawi bekhti amharai tibehal niskha
nimen ehksa kiteatrelu
denkoro anjal(wedi elu)

What about his criminal in 70,000 Ethiopian young "wotader" who killed Ethio-Eritria war with out any resualt.

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City: Dc