Selam Netsanet

I don’t remember EPRP apologizing the Ethiopian people for its military blunders in urban Ethiopia. I read the 4th plenum report several years ago, I think it was some time in late 70s, it scapegoat its senior members who were already deceased.

If such a document exists, a document by which EPRP apologized for its mistakes, I like to read it. Perhaps you may post it on this forum.

Thank you and with love

Ibrahim Shirdons,

Thank you for the good words about my post.I think we can work together. Think about joining UEDF.I think that is exactly where you belong.I understand from your earlier posts that you don't want to work with Meison.But if you think about it, EPRP shouldn't have worked with Meison at all. But for the sake of the people we have to.

We have to be ready to FORGIVE others as we expect them to do so. We also need to remove REVENGE out of our mind. We need to use our mind for RECONCILLATION. REVENGE is dangerous and we need to avoid it and build TRUST among us. Right now,that is what EPRP stands for.

I always observe frustration from people like "Kenenisa" who have blood in their hands. I read some of their posts here. I don't blame them.As they hear the death sentence of Tesfaye W/selassie,they get even more nervous.My message to them is EPRP is a forgiving party. Once again, it is the party of the people.

Nestanet

Selam Netsanet

I have two questions for you:

1. What can Meison possibley bring to the table to build democracy in Ethiopia? (Keep in mind that it has no organization, has no grass root support, and its reputation as ruthless political mercenary is still embedded in the minds of many)

2. You keep suggesting that EPRP is the party of the people. Is that what you wanted it be or is that what it is?

To be a party of the people, it has to meet some basic requirements: it must be transparent, it must elect its leaders, it must be accountable to the public, etc… Its history and current practices attest the opposite.

3. You also said “EPRP is a forgiving party”. To forgive, it must first be forgiven. Do you think Ethiopians have forgiven EPRP?

Can you go beyond the emotional phase and reply to my questions?

With love.

Yilma,

You appeared to be touched by my previous post.You also seem to be someone who will look into facts but still has a negative attitude to EPRP WHATSOEVER.I am surprised by you not saying a word when some of your "friends" used all kinds of street languages(**ttttttt) instead of arguing on facts.

Coming back to your questions, as to question number 1, I think Meison would be the best to answer.I agree with you that it doesn't have that much members or supporters.I wish I know how many members it has-may be five or six(just kidding).I do know that it exists as an organization.I also agree with you that Meison doesn't have a good name in Ethiopian politics.

Nevertheless, this should not stop us working with Meison. I believe this is the time to utilize all available resources against Woyane. We need to utilize not only political organizations but also individuals who can positively contribute to remove Woyane out of power. Once we do that, the Ethiopian people can elect who they want to lead them. First,we need to pave the way for a free political system.This includes independent election board,independent ministry of information,independent justice system,independent military,police,security,etc. Once we do that political parties can compete and it will be up to the Ethiopian people to judge. If the Ethiopian people want Meison, we have to go by that. But for now let's not prejudge. At this time, ALL political parties are not allowed to work freely. Let's get to that point first and say this party has less support than the other one. I believe we didn't get to that stage yet.

As to your questions 2 and 3, once again I will assure you that EPRP is the party of the people. It is a democractic party. I don't know where you get it but I will assure you that members elect their leaders regularly and leaders are elected democratically.Most of the leaders work FULL TIME for Ethiopian cause putting aside their personal life which most of us couldn't do at all. They are not selfish like most of us running for personal accomplishments.Most of them have actively participated in the battle against Derg and Woyane.

Yes, EPRP is a forgiving party.We all know that the worst that could happen has happened on members of EPRP. You may not be forgiving to EPRP but EPRP forgives you if you did any mistakes during that time. I believe there are so many "kenenisas" abroad and inside who start to shiver when they hear about EPRP. It is continuosly increasing its member base both inside and outside the country. Believe it or not right now,they have a strong base INSIDE the country. Have you heard the internet radio www.finote.org ?Where do you think they get those accurate and timely information ?Lately, the party held a successful conference to return its previous members.Many of them especially those who were in the leadership position returned back to their party. Yes, EPRP is always a strong party.The enemy (Woyane) see EPRP as a strong party that is why it outlawed it for no reason. Woyane knows that if EPRP get a chance to work freely in the country, it will mobilize the majority of the Ethiopian people against it.

Selam Netsanet

1.You wrote, “You appeared to be touched by my previous post.” Yes I was. I think you seem to be honest though misinformed.
2.You also wrote, “You … be someone who will look into facts but still has a negative attitude to EPRP WHATSOEVER.” That is not true. I resent it when EPRP is compared with Derg. I am even bitterer when EPRP is worthlessly “dancing” with forces like MEISON and shamelessly try to tell us it is doing it for the sake of democracy.

On the other matters you eloquently explained, I respectfully disagree with your accounting of facts. In my view, EPRP lost its touch with reality. I wish I were wrong, but I am afraid I am not. Of course, the truth hurts.

With Love!

Yilma,

I like your polite presentation even though I completely disagree with your opinion. In your earlier post,you wrote:

"In my view, EPRP lost its touch with reality".Too bad, you didn't provide us the reasons for your opinion.Anyway, one thing I understood from most of your posts is that you will not be happy with ANYTHING done by EPRP. I also understood that you have insider information about EPRP when you mentioned the fourth plenium in your earlier post. Probably, you could be an ex-EPRP. I know few who were ex members and have a totally negative attitude to EPRP. I hope you will say something. Let's avoid hate among ourseleves.

Nestanet

Netsanet:
I think I have to tell you something about myself. I am a city bred guy i.e merkato ("bomb tera"). My late mother who lived poor and died poor was a "kitel shach". She died when I was about to complete my high school studies. This is a sufficient proof that I am not a supporter of feudalism. If you had read what I posted in response to Mulugetta Asrate Kassa, you wouldn't have dared to accuse me of being "feudal lord". That is way way off the mark. Rather I did vehmently opposed the Hailesselassie Gov't, though I couldn't realise my dream and bring anything better than the Emperor. I have never ever supported the so called "meison", "ichat" blah blah garbages who were working with the Derg hand and glove under the guise of "critical support". Derg for me is.....huh, words of mine are NOT properly fitted to describe its ugly nature. As I sais here in this forum Derg simply was a cold blooded diabolical killing machine. And also EPRP was a cold blooded diabolical killing machine. Am I clear NETSI. If not, I can't help you more than this. But I allow you to be proud of your stupidity and ignorance.

Email: hagere_ethiopia@yahoo.com

City: Addis

Hagere,

Calling somebody "stupid" by itself is being "stupid". We need to grow up. You have the right to beileve what you think is right including HATING one group. But I can tell you that HATE will not take us nowhere. Off course, we can learn from our mistakes but HATING one party because of any mistake done twenty-thirty years ago will be a mistake. For those who has a POLITICAL AGENDA, I don't think it works. It is time for reconcillation.

Nestanet

Nestanet!

What you said is right. But, I doubt if you mean it from the bottom of your heart.

Gebre,

You don't need to doubt it. If you need "mehala",I will say egizihabiheren or Wolahi. Ethiopian people are ready for change. We need to be united. If woyane is willing, the Unity government will be the way for reconicillation. Got it?

Nestanet

Netsanet:
How many times should I tell you that what I hate in life is hate itself. Leave alone EPRP I don't even hate weyane which is destroying our mother land with all the determination of its nature. I am against it. I fight it with all the determination of my nature. I know their demise will be very swift etc, and yet I don't hate even weyane. I said this to you a million and one times. You come again and again and say "you hate EPRP" blah blah bull****. That is why I said you are stupid. I repeat I DON"T HATE EPRP. Regarding national reconcillation I am for it too. I want even weyane to be granted general amnesty in liberated Ethiopia. I know this is the only way to save our country. And yet mistakes should be unequivocally admitted. I don't approve evasive admission like the one you are doing it. It has to be admitted in no uncertain terms. Financial compensation should be granted to the families of red and white terror and weyane victims. The money should, to the extent possible, come from the personal accounts of EPRP. MEISON, weyane etc leaders. EPRP leaders both in the diaspora and at home should pay to the family of Dr. Mekonnen shegene and others who were gunned down by EPRP fascists. EPRP leaders should pay to the family of the "setegna adari" who was slaughtered by EPRP fascists. National reconcillation should be full immunity from criminal prosecution, but not from civil liability. And those who will be granted immunity should be those who cooperate and admit their heinous crime in no uncertain terms. Those who totally deny it and those who evasively admit guilt should face criminal prosecution. They will be acquitted if and only if they are positively proven innocent. DO YOU AGREE???

Email: astuka@yahoo.com

City: Addis

Dr. Berhanu Nega, the new mayor of Addis Abeba have some thing to confess and confuse about EPRP and the failure of socialism. will find it in addisfortune.com
advocate of "washington consensus"

Absolutely yes. They are responsible!

Email: millab_@hotmail.com

City: Montreal

Aster,

You wrote:

"They will be acquitted if and only if they are positively proven innocent. DO YOU AGREE??? ".

Yes, I agree.We need to leave these judgement for the people. Let's create a justice system that doesn't work just for the ruling party but for the constitution. By then, both sides can present their cases with evidences to elected judges and these judges can decide whatever verdict.By then, we will see who is innocent and criminal. Otherwise we will be mistaken by speculating or accusing a certain group for our own reason.I do understand that certain individuals or groups want to take a political advantage out of this. There are so many "Kenenisas" all over the world. Whenever they hear the word "EPRP", they will do whatever they can to accuse so that they can be free. For all these, let's leave the judgement for the people.

Nestanet

Aster and Hagere Ethiopia are one and the same. This Hagere Ethiopia guy debated with me long ago. I brused his ego and shattered his image. He could not get over it. Look at the first posting. It is all about Mamo Qilo and EPRP.

Aster aka Hagere, lick your wonds and grow up. You must be a compete and decorated fool to lose a debate for a man who calls himself Mamo Qilo and Tengara Gundan.

Ankasa Doro aka
Mamo Qilo

Hagere Ethiopia and Aster H/M wrote:

"Mamo Qilo recently diagnosed and the result reads 'he suufers from recognition hunger. He is, in a way, also suffering from "MEGALOMANIA" i.e he has NOT properly measured himself. What he thinks of himself and the reality on the ground are in a constant conflict in his personal life. This has made him a confused person and made him too intellectually irrelevant.

"Mamo Qilo, you are a piece of ****. I have understood what type of person you are. you don't deserve any response. I am just trying to let others know that you are a psychopathic lier, a MORON and a piece of ****.."

Hagere, if I am what you claim I am, why spend so much energy and time on me. I think I have bruised your ego and shattered your image of yourself. Yo are at my mercy. You just cannot get over me. It is me you see when you take shower. I am the lst thing in your mind before you go to bed and the first thing you think of when you wake up. I need not remind you that I am in charge of your dream to. My toy, now go to sleep and dream me chastising you.

Ankasa Doro aka
The Mamo Qilo

Mamo Qilo recently diagnosed and the result reads 'he suufers from recognition hunger. He is, in a way, also suffering from "MEGALOMANIA" i.e he has NOT properly measured himself. What he thinks of himself and the reality on the ground are in a constant conflict in his personal life. This has made him a confused person and made him too intellectually irrelevant.

Mamo Qilo, you are a piece of ****. I have understood what type of person you are. you don't deserve any response. I am just trying to let others know that you are a psychopathic lier, a MORON and a piece of ****.."

Email: astuka@yahoo.com

City: Addis

Hagere Ethiopia,

You should not have debated with me. I rendered you lifeless, bruised your ego and hsttered your self inflated image. I aksed Netsanet to ignore you. He now ddoes not even read you, lave alone respond to you. It is only a chap by the name of Mamo Qilo and Ankasa Doro that cares to respod to you. Poor soul. Abelashehuh!

The Mamo Qilo

Mamuye Qilooooooooooooo:
I am not Hagere Ethiopia. I knew your obsession. Hagere sounds males name, but not Aster. Even if I use aliace I don't confuse gender. Stupid as you are you don't understand. One man you listen to is yourself. I told you time and time again I AM NOT HAGERE ETHIOPIA. BUT I WISH I COULD BE. AM I CLEAR???

Email: astuka@yahoo.com

City: Addis

NETSI, NETSANET:
Mamuye Qiloooooooooooo.....is obsessed with H.E. Aparently H.E has totally ignored Mamuye Qiloooooo....H.E maybe knew Qiloooooooooo....is a mentally deranged person. So it is NOT worth it to discuss with a vegetable. Please advise him to take his pill and have some rest. He is nervous. Did you read what your "golden boy" Mamuye Qilo said? On the serious note, How many times should I tell you that what I hate in life is hate itself???!!! Leave alone EPRP I don't even hate weyane which is destroying our mother land with all the determination of its nature. I am against it. I fight it with all the determination of my nature. I know their demise will be very swift etc, and yet I don't hate even weyane. I said this to you a million and one times. You come again and again and say "you hate EPRP" blah blah bull****. That is why I said you are stupid. I repeat I DON"T HATE EPRP. Regarding national reconcillation I am for it too. I want even weyane to be granted general amnesty in liberated Ethiopia. I know this is the only way to save our country. And yet mistakes should be unequivocally admitted. I don't approve evasive admission like the one you are doing it. It has to be admitted in no uncertain terms. Financial compensation should be granted to the families of red and white terror and weyane victims. The money should, to the extent possible, come from the personal accounts of EPRP. MEISON, weyane etc leaders. EPRP leaders both in the diaspora and at home should pay to the family of Dr. Mekonnen shegene and others who were gunned down by EPRP fascists. EPRP leaders should pay to the family of the "setegna adari" who was slaughtered by EPRP fascists. National reconcillation should be full immunity from criminal prosecution, but not from civil liability. And those who will be granted immunity should be those who cooperate and admit their heinous crime in no uncertain terms. Those who totally deny it and those who evasively admit guilt should face criminal prosecution. They will be acquitted if and only if they are positively proven innocent. DO YOU AGREE???
Email: astuka@yahoo.com

Email: astuka@yahoo.com

City: Addis

Aster,

I have been following your conversation with Nestanet and Mamo Qilo on this forum. I think it is not only Mamo Qilo that is SICK but also YOU. I think you have a sense of mentality that what you think is always right.I agree with Nestanet where she said "Let's leave the judgement for the Ethiopian people."

Hiwot