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Re: The Cross and How Jews Perceive It

The Cross and How Jews Perceive It

By Geri Ungurean

“Therefore say, ‘Thus says the Lord God, “I will gather you from the peoples and assemble you out of the countries among which you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel’” (Ezekiel 11:17).

“I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous. Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their fulfillment be!” (Romans 11:11-12).


Upon reading this article by Geri Ungurean and all of the documented evidence is fact and is it any wonder that the reputation of the early church became badly soiled as it accepted pagan worship and traditions of man into it's belief system. And each of these early church fathers put his own interpretation upon what the Word of God meant. This was not the Apostolic ecclesia but the Replacement Church of the Holy Roman Empire which began it's work of destroying Christ's ecclesia. The daughters of Rome continue onward with many of these same teachings.

The pagan holidays practiced by them is ample proof but since they've applied a bit of Biblical history to these practices, the illiterate people believed what they were told. They've managed to eliminate Passover and introduced the Pagan holiday of Isthar (Easter). It is true, no matter how much Christians don't like to hear it. Until they clean up their own pagan beliefs, they are in no position to look down their noses upon others.

At this point, it needs to be understood who the True ecclesia includes. Notice the words of Jesus, ( Aramic Bible in Plain English - Matthew 15:24) "But he answered and said to them, “I am not sent except to the sheep that have strayed from the house of Israel.” The other versions say the same thing.

Next question: who are the Sheep that have strayed from the House of Israel? They are none other than those that made up the Northern Kingdom of Israel, which had been dispersed into all of the world. Jesus was not speaking about the Jews (who made up the Southern Kingdom). These are referred to as The Ten Lost Tribes but they aren't really lost and they have the Gentiles mingled within them so most do not even know their Hebrew roots.

Jesus was not saying He would be creating a new religion (the so-called Christian Church) but, rather, He was telling Peter that through Himself (The Rock) He would strengthen His already existing assembly (ecclesiastic), this small remnant group (Luke 12:32) of faith believing Israel. How does someone strengthen something that supposedly doesn't exist? If God's excelsior didn't already exist before the outpouring of Holy Spirit induced power, what was the Holy Spirit giving strength to? By Joe ort in The End Days Passover

To imply that Israel had to become Christian is such distortion of the facts. The Gentiles were grafted into the very 10 Lost Tribes of the House of Israel, whom Jesus said He had come to save.

There are 12 tribes in the House of Israel, and only two of them (as well as the Levites) are Jewish! They occupy the territory given to the Tribe of Judah, which includes the area around Jerusalem. Therefore, those not of the Jewish faith of circumcision, are all Gentiles, which obviously include all of these descendants from the other ten (scattered) tribes of Israel, as well.

Even among those that call themselves Jews, there is not an understanding of the difference between the two Kingdoms who are, as yet, not united. There-fore it is a misnoimer to apply the term to yourself unless you know you are one of the Tribe of Judah, Benjamin or Levite. If you are a Hebrew who has found her Messiah as Lord and God in your life, you now are one of the ecclesia, which is made up of both the Northern Kingdom and the Gentiles.

The Ten tribes lost their law giving and law abiding identity; therefore, the remaining tribes (Judah, Benjamin and the Levite priests) are the only ones who still abide by the Levitical laws given to Moses.
By now, Christians ought to understand the difference between the Jew and the Israelites.....but they don't, they lump all together under the title of "Jew". And over centuries, the Roman Catholic Church and many of her daughters have ingrained within their own people a hatred for the Jews that can only be explained as a clever "snow job" on the ecclesia, by Satan and his minions.

Israel and Judah are not one and the same but two separate kingdoms, two separate sticks that will one day be united. Yes, there is the Nation of Israel that bears the name of the Northern Kingdom and not surprising since these 10 Northern Tribes have the Gentiles grafted into their fold. The Jew, by and large, are segregated, who still await the Messiah. They live under the Law of Moses. They will be the ones that will, one day cry out, Blessed is He That Comes in The Name of the Lord.

Within that Southern Kingdom remains the Scepter of Rule that belongs to the Tribe of Judah. Is this now understood? Once it is, you want to hit your head and ask, "Why didn't I realize this before...it's been in the Bible all along?" And it has. It will be the return of the Jesus Christ that will unite the two tribes into one. Why does it have to wait until then? Because the Southern Kingdom of Judah has still not cried out, "Blessed is He that comes in the Name of the Lord".

It is very plain that this Replacement Theology taught by those early church fathers instilled a hatred for the Jews that has been carried on down to modern days. But here is the very ironic part to this whole historical fact.

The Israelites, who are made up of both Hebrews and Gentiles who preach that the Messiah has come and paid the Redemption price, settled, by and large, in Europe (mainly the UK) and America. They are the Covenant Nations. But also, among these Israelites are those that make up the Tribe of Dan who rejects Jesus Christ and have aligned themselves with the Seed of Satan (Illuminati) who are determined to steal the crown away from the Jews of the Southern Kingdom and who control Jerusalem. But more on that later.

Do you think there has been a blinding in part upon the New Testament Church to make them think they are more special than the original Children of Faith Called Out by God? It appears to be that way.

Does this modern Christian Church really believe that the generations of Faith Believing Israeli weren't saved? Apparently so. They teach that the Jews/Israelites must become Christians in order to receive that Salvation. That is almost funny if it weren't so pathetic. Because they believe this way, they also believe that they, the Gentiles must be taken out in a Rapture, so God can get on with the business of the Jews. What a mess of lies. If people would get their facts straight, just think how much easier it would be to understand the Bible and put it all in it's proper perspective.

They teach that the Jew must be grafted into their Christian Religion. Most do not even understand the difference between an Israeli and a Jew.

Look what the Word of God teaches. It is quite different, to say the least.

Ephesians 2:11-20New International Version (NIV)

11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross , by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. 19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets[color] , with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. (underlining done for emphasis by me)

Notice the words "excluded"?

Who was once excluded?

Notice the words, "destroyed the barrier"?

Who destroyed the barrier...the Church or Jesus Christ?

Who made the two One?

And then, read again these words, "you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 , with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.' (underlining done for emphasis by me)

What was the foundation? That's right; it was the apostles and prophets with Christ Jesus Himself as the chief cornerstone.

The body, the ecclesia, was called up long ago, at the first when God called A BODY out of the Gentiles and made a "Peculiar People" through whom the Savior of the World come and through whom the Gospel would be spread into all the world to anyone that would gladly ask for this free gift called Salvation. It was Grace granted unto the Gentile.
It is as Joe Ortiz says in his book,

"Therefore, newly engrafted Gentiles are no longer foreigners and aliens but fellow citizens with God's people. If this body wants to call itself the Christian Church (as it obviously has since Pentecost) so be it! But this new indentification (Christian) which was adopted by this one new body about a year after the Day of Pentecost, does not negate the fact that God's people, His children of promise, are and have been His called Out ones (Greek ecclesia, assembly, congregation) as far back as Abraham, and possibly as far back as Abel, the slain brother of Cain, Adam's son.)

It is pretty plain that Israel, the Northern Kingdom, which had dispersed into all the world is the Lost Sheep, to whom Christ sent the believing disciples gathered from the Land of Israel; "Go, preach to them and gather them into the fold." is a clear message. The story of the Good Shepherd is a prime example of Him going out to reach the one that is lost and carry him back into the Shepherd's fold. Any Gentile that got attached to Israel became a part of that fold, "Congregation" (ecclesia).

The Gentile Church does not save Israel.....it is through the Lost Sheep of Israel that the Gentile was allowed to become a part of God's Called Out Ones, the ecclesia and became saved. Why is that so hard to believe?

I'll tell you why...the present day church has been brain-washed into believing that "they" are the primary Chosen One when it is the other way around . The Modern Church does not want to believe this truth; they have been convinced and continue to be convinced that salvation only comes through the Gentile Church. To put it into it's proper context would take away their self-imposed importance.

The Roman Church, made up of the Babylonian priesthood have instilled this hatred for the very ones whose destruction they've been busy committing through the various evil rulers that have aligned themselves with Rome.

To know the real truth It also destroys the reason for a pre-tribulation rapture for a Gentile Church so God can get on with the business of dealing with the Jews. Now really, God needs a Gentile Church, which isn't even the complete ecclesia, to do this????

Replacement Theology is the term that is used for any group that tried to take the place of Israel. And the thing that is nuts about this is that most teachers/preachers that use that term don't even understand whom the Bible says is Israel.

The Gentile Church (whoever that is suppose to be) should not be teaching that they need to be removed before Jesus Christ will deal with the "JEWS" because it is not true. The Time of the Gentiles ended in 1967 when Jerusalem was once again, totally, under the control of Israel....no more Gentile rulers. That is what it means for the End of the Gentiles, not a some Gentile church to be gone. For one thing, the True Church is made up of Gentiles and Children of Israel.

Their problem is that they do not know the difference between Israel (those of the Northern Kingdom, who in large part, accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior) and the Jews, which to this day, still are the Tribes of Judah, Benjamin and the Levites who did not accept Him as their Savior.

They remain divided on the issue of the Messiah. But God, in His Wisdom knew all of this and even let us know this fact when the scriptures tell us that Jesus said He would not return until they called out to Him.

Gentile Church....you do know that Judah (the Jews) are the separate stubborn part of God's Calling, that have still not had their blinders removed and practice their OT religion, don't you? If you do not, then read Romans, Hebrews and go back to Acts and get the complete story. You will find out there was a reason, why they were kept in the dark, you could say. They had their role to play out for the End Time Prophecies to be fulfilled.

So, who do you think has been behind this "Hatred of the Jews" and "The True ecclesia"? It is none other than the one tribe that is not included in the 144,000 of Revelation. The reason for that is because the A/C whose carries the blood of a Hebrew, Roman, Assyerian, Greek and The Seed of Satan, is determined to steal the Royal Scepter that rules and control Jerusalem of today. As we've said, it is Judah, the Southern Kingdom hold that Stick and Dan is jealous and doing all he (from the Tribe of Dan along with all of his cohorts) are determined to steal the crown for themselves.

The day will come when God will reveal to the ecclesia that they are Natural Israel and Grafted in Gentiles....these make up the Body of Christ.

Then the scripture cited by Geri Ungurean will come to pass, “Therefore say, ‘Thus says the Lord God, “I will gather you from the peoples and assemble you out of the countries among which you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel’” (Ezekiel 11:17).

But Geri, if you read this, please understand that you are not a Messianic Jew but are of the Body of Christ. I know the term is popular now; which I once used myself but it is not accurate.

The Antichrist will come against those born of the Woman and also against the rest of those that keep the commanments of God. Notice how both groups are still there? No pre-trib. Rapture?

Rev. 12:17
" And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."


Re: The Cross and How Jews Perceive It

Hi Sister,

You have learned well. Father has blessed you, I am happy for your knowledge because you are putting it to good use.

You are truly being led by the Holy Spirit and I second witness this truth!

I pray that these words will be understood by all who hear or read them.

You can read it all for yourself in the Holy Bible. A good place to start is in Genesis. Chapter 49 begins by Jacob (the man renamed Israel by God) giving his 12 sons their blessings for the last days (the time we are now witnessing):

Genesis 49:1....And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.

There you have it, prayer has been said and so it will be. Take all things to the Father in prayer and supplication and you will receive these words in truth.


Re: The Cross and How Jews Perceive It