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The "Resurrection" has been erroneously labeled The "Rapture". 
THERE IS NO RAPTURE
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WE STARTED OUT BELIEVING IN A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE
BUT FOUND OVER TIME AROUND 2006 THAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT SHARE A 
BIBLE VERSE WHATSOEVER INDICATING A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE

BIBLE VERSES EVIDENCE:

While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"  Matt. 24:29 (KJV)


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Yahusha is I Am That I Am  (Exodus 3:14)

Yahusha is YHWH  come in the flesh, He put aside His Diety to become a human, born of  a Virgin.

Yahusha is the Word, As The Most High, He spoke all things seen and unseen into existence

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John 14:26
"the breath of life"

But the Comforter, which is "the breath of life", whom the Father will send shall teach you all things.

God is not His  Name but a term.  The Holy Spirit is not a person but the very Breath of the Father.

There is no Trinity.  The Father, YHVH  and Yahusha are One  (John 10:30)

THE BOOK OF ENOCH

NOW IS THE TIME!

 FOR A REMOTE GENERATION THE LAST GENERATION FOR THE ELECT!

REFERENCES IN THE BOOK OF ENOCH TO THE BIBLE

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Book of Enoch: http://tinyurl.com/BkOfEnoch

The book of Second Peter and Jude Authenticate the book of Enoch and Vice Versa

Yahusha/JESUS QUOTED FROM THE SEPTUAGINT:

THE APOSTLES QUOTED FROM THE SEPTUAGINT

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Gerlinda
Jul 27, 2014 - 1:07PM
"Did Irenaeus Say there would be a rapture? "

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Jovial (27 July 2014)
"Did Irenaeus Say there would be a rapture? "


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At http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2014/jovial622.htm I commented on Irenaeus and what he may or may not have alluded to a rapture, with his comment in Book 5, Chapter 29 , which was


"Et propterea *** in fine repente hinc Ecclesia assumetur" "And therefore, when the end is suddenly here, the Church will be taken away."


Marylin asked, "How else would the church be taken away? " I think there are other possible alternative interpretations such as;

Taken away to concentration camps by the Beast.
Taken by God in the flight to the wilderness, as described in Revelation 12
It is possible that he was referring to a rapture too. Irenaeus might have believed in a rapture.

However, one reason most commentators don't quote Irenaeus as "proof" of a rapture is that he wasusing the language of Ezra, written before his time.

Some texts of Ezra say in chapter 5:1

"behold, the days shall come, that they which dwell upon earth shall be taken in a great number, and the way of truth shall be hidden, and the land shall be barren of faith

Other texts read...

"behold, the days shall come, that they which dwell upon earth shall be seized with great terror..."

The first version of Ezra 5:1 could refer to the police coming to take believers off to prison camps. Or it could refer to a rapture. It is hard to say from such a vague description. The book of Ezra was cannonized as scripture by the Council of Carthage (349-419), and has always been in the Catholic publications of the Scriptures and is considered cannon by the Eastern Orthodox Church. But it has been rejected by most Protestant traditions.

But Irenaeus does not give us information lacking from Ezra about whatever event the "taking away" refers to. If he had, that might be significant. Since he did not, then Ezra would be the earliest source of this quote, not Irenaeus. In either case, we do not have enough info to firmly say Irenaeus or Ezra were referring to someone's feet lifting off the ground and being gathered to the returning Messiah. It COULD mean that. It could mean something else.



Shalom,

Joe

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2014/jovial727-2.htm





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