(He is accusing everyone who writes for this site of being SDA! His offensive letter can be found below my response to it.)


Dear Pastor Bob,

Okay, enough is enough! I cannot tell you how much your blatant attacks on this site, our moderator, and those of us who contribute to this site, IS actually exposing YOU as a hateful, deceitful, false prophet!

Don't you see how UN-Christ-like your evil behavior is? What is wrong with you? Because you cannot refute the studies being presented here you are resorting to behavior more befitting of a heathen, and most certainly NOT a follower of Jesus, and a pastor of His sheep!!

I would gladly refute any of the studies you put on, but I don't have the opportunity to respond on Five Doves because John Tgn will not allow anyone who is not a member of the Pre-Trib CULT, to post on his site! Therefore you are free to attack this site without fear of anyone confronting you directly. Pretty sad state of affairs for a man who fancies himself a learned Bible scholar!

I think this is all going to backfire on you big time! I already see it happening with several of the best writers on Five Doves. Your arrogance and pride filled bullying is actually turning off people, who in turn will come to this site to see what is really going on. And, in doing so just might be encouraged to FIND OUT FOR THEMSELVES!! Why are you so afraid of that? You should be encouraging that at every turn! The fact that you are not is the best indication of what kind of person you really are!

I want you to understand how very offensive you are to me, personally, when you assume that everyone who writes for this site is a SDA!! How dare you! You obviously have not taken the time to read my posts or you would know my stance on Sabbath keeping, and soul sleep and all the other doctrines you accuse me of supporting! You say you have been lurking here 5 months, well within that time frame I have posted numerous studies that are anything but what you are accusing this site of pushing! Not a very good job of information gathering for one who touts himself to be so astute at the weeding out of heretics!

I do not know of one person who writes for this site that IS a SDA!
In fact, most of us here have come out of the Harlot churches that have pastors like you! So, in fact, we do not belong to any specific denomination that you can tear down and throw insults at. You are the one still in a church and therefore much more guilty of taking part in the Great Falling Away!

I cannot speak for everyone here, just myself, but I have spent countless hours, studying the Word of God, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit to find out the Truth for myself. There is a vast difference between the Truth and religion and I am much more interested in Truth than the religious traditions of men who go to religious Bible Colleges and come out Christian Pharisee!

You actually have nothing better to do than lurk on this site in order to write letters against those who are your brothers and sisters in Christ? And, you think the Lord approves of this? I hope the Lord will bless you with something better to do, as I am sure this is not in your own best interest, and it certainly is not in the best interest of those who truly love the Lord.

So, quit calling me a SDA, as that is false! And this site is not limited to one denomination or one aspect of Truth seeking, and maybe that is what scares pastors like you. For if one truly finds out for them-self, they will no longer believe in the false doctrines you are pushing, and leave you without a flock.

I will pray for you as you need it more than anyone I know. Please find something better to do than showing anger and jealousy against those who are truth seekers, and become one yourself.

JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!

Patti C.

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Pastor Bob (8 June 2014)
"FIVE DOVE ALERT"

All Doves:

The "lurker" has completed a five month analysis of the Rapture Bible Prophecy Forum web site and has come to the conclusion that it is a SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST site. I have not prepared a written report as such at this point but intend to do so. They have been busted!

Despite the plethora of re-posts that they bring on their site from many other trustworthy sites such as Mike Hoggard, Rapture Ready News Report, etc., these are simply a distraction to take the focus of the fact that the Rapture Bible Prophecy Forum is a SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST deception and disinformation site. The imported posts provide a sort of window-dressing that gives a sense of legitimacy to their bigger agenda of "sheep stealing". Hidden within the bowels of their site still remains their poisoned-apples for you to bite into.

They always keep at the forefront of their sites, known SDA teachings, or sites/topics that they can use as bait to deceive the Biblical Christian. There are about 15 "topics" at the head of their page that have hits/visits into the 'thousands', and all hype "Sabbath observance," or the usual SDA agenda topics. Long ago when some of them posted at Five Doves, they would post a link to their site with an interesting topic. They were fishing and they baited their hooks with interesting topics that grabbed our interest. In the process, a pattern was taking form in my observations.

The deception began to take form and hold as I reviewed their posts for indicators of what was the larger agenda afoot. I had an opinion months ago but kept looking for the subliminals, and subtlety that set off my alarm bells, and withheld judgment before I had confirmed my intuition.

You need to know that SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS are a "CULT". They are all about adding, subtracting, multiplying, and dividing. So-called Christian cults are guilty of:

1. Add to Scripture.
2. Subtract from the atonement and the person of Jesus Christ.
3. Multiply the requirements for salvation.
4. Divide the loyalty of Christian believers.

I am a formally trained, educated, experienced, and a 'dry-behind-my-ears' pastor and educator. I can't begin to stress to you how the SDA cultists operate. They are deceptive and as I have referred to their slippery Steven "Mark" Wohlberg, he is like trying to pick up or handle Mercury. First off, they never openly identify themselves as SDA's as such because most people have heard about their deceit and deception. But when you watch their site and read their posts, you begin to recognize a subliminal message that keeps appearing over and over; it is so subtle that you have but one conclusion and that is the host of the site and his wags and supporters are SDA cultists.

I will begin shortly a series of thorough examinations of the SDA cult. It is not Biblically orthodox Christian faith or doctrine. One of those wags referred to me as a "lurker". If you have had a suspicion that the site is a SDA site, let me confirm for you that your observation has been spot on.

As they say in the market place, "let the buyer beware". In the market place, they offer their literature FREE, which is customary with all the different religious groups that elevate or observe Sabbath keeping. I probably receive seven or eight publications from different SDA organizations and "seventh-day" type churches. I even watch one of these guys early Sunday mornings at 7:30 AM. He comes out of a suburb of Atlanta, GA. I study their methods, style, and strategies.

So "LET THIS BE A WARNING TO ALL THAT GO TO THAT SITE: It is a SDA group and when you visit it be aware of its deceptive nature."

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED, VISIT THERE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

God bless,

Pastor Bob
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You are the deceiver...and you have just been busted in your lies!
You will lose readers on Five Doves for being this hateful and deceptive, and finding nothing better to write about. Shame on you!!

Hi Patti,

Thank you for a well written and VERY accurate assessment!


Many peoples names on FIVES DOVES and on other Pre tribulation WEBSITES could EASILY have their NAMES inserted in your letter.


Many people are guilty of FALSE ACCUSATIONS against this site.


Many are guilty of ACCUSATIONS unbefitting a CHRISTIAN.

Many are UN REPENTENT for their GROSS and UNTRUE ACCUSATIONS against the contributors, moderator and WHAT THIS SITE STANDS FOR.


FOR MORE THAN FIVE MONTHS I HAVE CONSTANTLY AND REPEATEDLY POSTED:

1. THE BIBLE IS THE INERRANT WORD OF GOD

2. JESUS IS GOD'S SON ( JESUS IS GOD )

3. THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS.

4. PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.


SIDE NOTE:

A. THERE IS NO 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE

B. THERE IS NO 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE BIBLE VERSE

I guess (pastor?) Bob is willingly IGNORANT of this site and what we represent. ( willingly ignorant: DUMB on PURPOSE )


Let GOD be TRUE and every man a liar.


The LIARS KNOW WHO THEY are and their time to REPENT is growing SHORT!

Will they publically apologize for the attacks they have made?

God have mercy on those who have LIED and FALSELY represented this site.


God Bless

Steven

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THERE IS NO 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE

THERE IS NO 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION BIBLE VERSE


WE ARE NOT APPOINTED TO WRATH.


Joel 2:31-32

31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
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Isa 19:19-22

19 In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.

20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

21 And the LORD shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know the LORD in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the LORD, and perform it.

22 And the LORD shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the LORD, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them.
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THE "HE" IN DANIEL IS JESUS CHRIST NOT THE anti Christ


Are you a berean and willing to shew yourself approved to study the scriptures or will you continue to listen to FALSE teachings and doctrines by FALSE teachers boasting of their years of studying the bible and teaching false doctrine?


THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND - THE '1599 GENEVA BIBLE' DANIEL 9:26 FOOTNOTE [ a } STATES..........


That Messiah came in the seventieth week . Read it for yourself . Go to Bible Gateway 1599 Geneva Bible Daniel 9:26 and read footnote a.



The word "least' here means 'last' and is numbered "seventy".




Bible Gateway

Daniel 9

1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)



9 3 Daniel desireth to have that performed of God, which he had promised concerning the return of the people from their banishment in Babylon. 5 A true confession. 20 Daniel’s prayer is heard. 21 Gabriel the Angel expoundeth unto him the vision of the seventy weeks. 24 The anointing of Christ. 25 The building again of Jerusalem. 26 The death of Christ.



1 In the first year of Darius the son of [ a ]Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the [ b ]realm of the Chaldeans,



2 Even in the first year of his reign, I Daniel understood by [ c ]books the number of the years, whereof the Lord had spoken unto Jeremiah the Prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolation of Jerusalem.



3 And I turned my face unto the Lord God, and [ d ]sought by prayer and supplications with fasting and sackcloth and ashes.



4 And I prayed unto the Lord my God, and made my confession, saying, Oh Lord God which art [ e ]great and fearful, and keepest covenant and mercy toward them which love [ f ]thee, and toward them that keep thy commandments,



5 We have sinned and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, yea, we have rebelled, and have departed from thy precepts, and from thy judgments.



6 For we would not obey thy servants the Prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, and to all the people of the land.



7 O Lord, [ g ]righteousness belongeth unto thee, and unto us [ h ]open shame, as appeareth this day unto every man of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, yea, unto all Israel, both near and far off, through all the country, whither thou hast driven them, because of their offences, that they have committed against thee.



8 O Lord, unto us appertaineth open shame, to our [ I ]Kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, because we have sinned against thee.



9 Yet compassion and forgiveness is in the Lord our God, albeit we have rebelled against him.



10 For we have not obeyed the [ j ]voice of the Lord our God, to walk in his laws, which he hath laid before us by the ministry of his servants the Prophets.



11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy Law, and are turned back, and have not heard thy voice: therefore the [ k ]curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the Law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.



12 And he hath confirmed his words, which he spake against us, and against our judges that [ l ]judged us, by bringing upon us a great plague: for under the whole heaven hath not been the like, as hath been brought upon Jerusalem.



13 All this plague is come upon us, as it is written in the Law of Moses: yet made we not our prayer before the Lord our God, that we might turn from our iniquities and understand thy truth.



14 Therefore hath the Lord made ready the plague, and brought it upon us: for the Lord our God is righteous in all his works which he doeth: for we would not hear his voice.



15 And now, O Lord our God, that hast brought thy people out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand, and hast gotten thee renown, as appeareth this day, we have sinned, we have done wickedly.



16 O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy wrath be turned away from thy city Jerusalem thine holy Mountain: because of our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are a reproach to all that are about us.



17 Now therefore, O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant, and his supplications, and cause thy face to [ o ]shine upon thy Sanctuary, that lieth waste for the Lord’s sake.



18 O my God, incline thine ear and hear: open thine eyes, and behold our desolations, and the city whereupon thy Name is called: for we do not present our supplications before thee for our own [ q ]righteousness, but for thy great tender mercies.



19 O Lord hear, O Lord forgive, O Lord [ r ]consider, and do it: defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy Name is called upon thy city, and thy people.



20 ¶ And while I was speaking and praying, and confessing my sin, and the sin of my people Israel, and did present my supplication before the Lord my God, for the holy Mountain of my God,



21 Yea, while I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen before in the vision, came flying, and touched me about the time of the evening oblation.



22 And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee knowledge and understanding.



23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to show thee, for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter and consider the vision.



24 Seventy [ s ]weeks are determined upon [ t ]thy people and upon thine holy city, to finish the wickedness, and to seal up ( u )the sins, and to reconcile the iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.



25 Know therefore and understand that from ( v ) the going forth of the commandment to bring again the people, and to build Jerusalem, unto Messiah the Prince, shall be seven [ w ] weeks and threescore and two weeks, and the street shall be built again, and the wall even in a [ y ]troublous time.



26 And after threescore and two [ z ]weeks, shall Messiah be slain, and shall [ aa ]have nothing, and the people of the [ ab ]prince that shall come, shall destroy the city and the Sanctuary, and the end thereof shall be with a flood: and unto the end of the battle it shall be destroyed by desolations.



27 And he [ ac ]shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to [ ad ]cease, [ ae ]and for the overspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Footnotes:

a. Daniel 9:1 Who was also called Astyages.

b. Daniel 9:1 For Cyrus led with ambition, went about wars in other countries, and therefore Darius had the title of the kingdom, though Cyrus was king in effect.

c. Daniel 9:2 For though he was an excellent Prophet, yet he daily increased in knowledge by reading of the Scriptures.

d. Daniel 9:3 He speaketh not of that ordinary prayer, which he used in his house thrice a day, but of a rare and vehement prayer, least their sins should cause God to delay the time of their deliverance prophesied by Jeremiah.

e. Daniel 9:4 That is, hast all power in thyself to execute thy terrible judgments against obstinate sinners, as thou art rich in mercy to comfort them which obey thy word and love thee.

f. Daniel 9:4 Hebrew, him.

g. Daniel 9:7 He showeth that whensoever God punisheth, he doeth it for just cause: and thus the godly never accuse him of rigor as the wicked do, but acknowledge that in themselves there is just cause why he should so entreat them.

h. Daniel 9:7 Hebrew, confusion of face.

i. Daniel 9:8 He doth not excuse the kings because of their authority, but prayeth chiefly for them as the chief occasions of these great plagues.

j. Daniel 9:10 He showeth that they rebel against God, which serve him not according to his commandment and word.

k. Daniel 9:11 As Deut. 27:15, or the curse confirmed by an oath.

l. Daniel 9:12 Or, governed us.

m. Daniel 9:14 Hebrew, watched upon the evil.

n. Daniel 9:16 That is, according to all thy merciful promises and the performance thereof.

o. Daniel 9:17 Show thyself favorable.

p. Daniel 9:17 That is, for thy Christ’s sake in whom thou wilt accept all our prayers.

q. Daniel 9:18 Declaring, that the godly flee only unto God’s mercies, and renounce their own works, when they seek for remission of their sins.

r. Daniel 9:19 Thus he could not content himself with any vehemence of words: for he was so led with a fervent zeal considering God’s promise made to the city in respect of his Church, and for the advancement of God’s glory.

s. Daniel 9:24 He alludeth to Jeremiah’s prophecy: who prophesied that their captivity should be seventy years: but now God’s mercy should sevenfold exceed his judgment, which should be four hundred and ninety years, even to the coming of Christ, and so then it should continue forever.

t. Daniel 9:24 Meaning, Daniel’s nation, over whom he was careful.

u. Daniel 9:24 To show mercy and to put sin out of remembrance.

v. Daniel 9:25 That is, from the time that Cyrus gave them leave to depart.

w. Daniel 9:25 These weeks make forty-nine years, whereof 46 are referred to the time of the building of the Temple, and three to the laying of the foundation.

x. Daniel 9:25 Counting from the sixth year of Darius, who gave the second commandment for the building of the Temple are 62 weeks, which make 434 years, which comprehend the time from the building of the Temple unto the baptism of Christ.

y. Daniel 9:25 Hebrew, in straits of time.

z. Daniel 9:26 In this least week of the seventy, shall Christ come and preach and suffer death.

aa. Daniel 9:26 He shall seem to have no beauty, nor to be of any estimation, as Isa. 53:2.

ab. Daniel 9:26 Meaning Titus, Vespasian’s son, who should come and destroy both the Temple and the people without all hope of recovery.

ac. Daniel 9:27 By the preaching of the Gospel he confirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

ad. Daniel 9:27 Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

ae. Daniel 9:27 Meaning, that Jerusalem and the Sanctuary should be utterly destroyed for their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague shall be so great, that they shall be all astonied at them.

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THERE IS NO 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE VERSE IN THE BIBLE

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Hello Patti,
How I wish I had the oral skill that you have to get to the point of a matter. Your words telling Bob that most of us have come out of Harlot churches like he pastored is RICH. We are so sick of organizations such as those that he has been affiliated with and others such as I was once associated with...The Roman Catholic and Assembly of God. Yes the A/G has gone down the Purpose Driven Path to Ecumenicalism, back to the Mother Harlot but hey, they still believe in a pre-tribulation Rapture, Sunday Worship, Christmas, Easter and other nonsense so maybe they still have a chance, do you suppose? Not, if they read their Bibles.

I have a little I want to add to what you have said to Bob.

Bob, Go ahead and do your study on the SDA Cult BUT don't you dare to imply that we, on RaptureBibleProphecyForum are of the Seventh Day Adventist or you leave yourself open to God's Wrath upon your own head because you are bearing a false witness against this site and those on it. And, you know what is the sad thing about all of this; you have put yourself upon some pedestal and the readers, who do not read the Word of God for themselves, are bowing down to you as if you are some great AUTHORITY..... a King of the Hill.. You will be responsible for their teaching....you know that don't you? It will be much worse for you because you taught lies.

Now, if you want to accuse me, personally, for believing that the fourth commandment that says to keep the Sabbath Day Holy, go ahead: If it is one of the Ten Commandments (never rescinded) then it is good enough for me. There is nothing special I observe except I am aware of the day that Our God set aside as our Day of Rest and to keep it holy. I began to believe that many years ago...on my own......how? I read the Bible for myself. If your belief that the day was changed to the 1st day of week super-ceded God's own Commandment then you are wrong on another count.

Another one of you quotes,

makes you guilty of breaking Commandment #9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Do you get it? You are now guilty of over-looking two of God's Commandments.



I have just reread something else that you wrote in the past:



There isn't many other sites that lifts up the atonement and the person of Jesus Christ like this one. Who do you think you are to make such an accusation against us? When have we ever multiplied the requirements for salvation? Grace is free, free, free...do you understand? Would you please answer that with proof? Add to scriptures??? My goodness, Bob, how desperate are you for attention when you can't see that it is you who adds to scripture with promoting a false teaching that the He in Daniel 9:29 is A/C instead of Jesus Christ. I guess I should say you are taking away from His Work upon the Cross that finished animal sacrifice worship once and for all. Then Bob, your 4th comment is a doozy. Jesus Christ said Himself that he didn't come to bring peace but to divide. AND you say we are dividing the loyalty of Christian believers?

Bob, you have been warned: step lightly with your words: they are nothing but slander. You are too old to be playing such desperate word games.

Thanks Patti,
Gerlinda

Dear Gerlinda,

You do have my oral skills and more! You do a great job of defending your position and this site! You do it as it should be done, with biblical support, and straight forward questions.

I just went to the Watchmen on the Wall site, just to see if it is as bad as 5 Doves in attacking this site...I am so saddened by how even someone like Charles Holler is writing such negative stuff about Steven and this site!! Personal attacks on character and lifestyle and private matters being done by someone I used to really like, admire and considered a brother in Christ. What is up with that? It is so disheartening to read such nasty gossip coming from a follower of Christ against another follower of Christ.

My goodness!! The world and unbelievers are bad enough, who needs to be attacked by members of the same Body! It becomes the body attacking itself which is called a disease! Linda is right, it is a zombie Apocalypse!!

We need to be united in love and not divided by doctrine, because when it is all said and done, love is much more important than doctrine. It is the difference between Truth and religion. Give me truth any day! The two most important commandments are all about love; love the Lord and love our neighbors.

Sure we can debate doctrine, but if we have not love, we lose even if we are right! Maybe this has all been a good thing in one respect, it makes each of us take a look at ourselves and where love may be lacking in our relationship with our brothers and sisters.

I know I am going to be more mindful about this, and pray that Pastor Bob, and Charles and Kevin take a good look at what they are saying, as it is
certainly not loving in nature, and most certainly not seemly as followers of Christ.

Great work Gerlinda! Good articles and studies! I appreciate your hard work in helping Steven keep us informed.

Agape, sister!

Patti C.

This is the kind of thing that breaks my heart. In considering that we are all devoted lovers of Christ, to be so divided (and in some cases, hateful as well) simply should not be; this type of behavior is not of the fruit of the Spirit. Something is very wrong.

May we all seek the face of the Most High in search of His truth, expending our energy on working out our own salvation with fear and trembling rather than focusing on the speck in someone else's eye.

May His mercy abound in these very dark times, especially to those who call themselves Christians.

Written by a very saddened sister in Christ.

Oh Patti, What can I say about this sad state of affairs? What you say about this being an attack on the Body is a disease is exactly that....a killing field.....almost like putting Christ back on the cross. We all are His Body and the body is committing suicide.

A hammer of hateful words, knocking brutal blows of spite to the spine of a God-loving site & making false accusations to mar the character of, not just Steven but all of us, is being driven by a ungodly spirit who hopes to stop the good work that is being done here. There is more being shown here in video, articles and sharing of God's Word then most sites that claim to be followers of Christ. The variety is enormous. And are we so stupid as to think each teaching is the Final Word of God? No, because of this variety, we search even deeper to find the truth. We aren't satisfied with the former teachings handed down to Rome's Daughters by her Mother. We are exposing the enemy and the enemy resorts to his same tactic to stop it. He doesn't use an outsider to do his nasty deeds, he uses what is left of Christianity (hate that word) to keep slashing away until there is no life left....he hopes. But, Patti, it is like you said, it will back-fire on them all. What goes around comes around.

Both us were banned from Doves because we dared to speak up about a pre-tribulation Rapture. Hey, that was good, wasn't it? We found Steven's site with all of these great sources to feed our desire to know more about our Lord and what He has for us. I was asked to become a regular on that site Patti but I wanted to know if Steven's site was really a SDA site so I wrote directly to Steven to find out. I got my answer in being able to do my own investigating. I know a good thing when I see it and it is right here on our site. I haven't been back to the former since. Once you've had the best, you can't go back.

Goodness Gracious! haven't we all sinned? Even they on that site are sinners but apparently they have forgotten their human nature and don't realize it that Rome has not made them Saints yet.

Forget going there Patti; it isn't worth it. There is too much to do right here. Time is fleeing and Our Lord Commeth so we must work while we still have daylight. Through prayer and true love, He will help us in our own weakness.

" I say to you, Love your enemies, bless those cursing you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those accusing you falsely, and persecuting you." Matthew 5:44. There is God-given power in that advice.

May Our Heavenly Father meet all of your needs.

Thank you, Patti

Gerlinda

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