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I know we may not agree on every aspect of scripture such as the timing of the Rapture but I had real issues with the article "Has Daniel's 70th Week Been Fulfilled" so after reading more material, I decided to put it out there for others to read and critique. As Seekers of the Truth of God's Word, it is our duty to search out a matter and that is my intent. Today KLM posted on Five Doves his response.
My original request is found here:
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KML (23 Jan 2014)
"RE " Is Daniel's 70th Week Already Fulfilled?""
The article link posted is "PRETERISM" to be terse.
The question posed "is Daniel's 70th Week Already fulfilled " is moot
through having been previously decided or settled, and set as open to discussion or debate; arguably.
Challenge in this case, is a formal objection to a persons supposed knowledge.
With the information available through the Internet it will not be difficult to find the conflicts this position holds with the "Truth" of the Bible.
Which you have stated that you are opposed.
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of private interpretation.
Charles Gilbert Weston and his wife hold this position.
I Do Not.
Weston Bible Ministries is Preterist at their core.
As in all things we reconcile to be a good Barean when it comes to the teachings of men; especially when those teachings conflict with much of the scriptures, Old and New Testament.
Beware of the dogs outside.
A wolf in sheeps clothing, is still a wolf.
What individual could possibly esteem themselves as knowing all of the truth?
One could spend a lifetime in study of the scriptures and die without gaining even a small portion of the knowledge therein is written.
That does not negate the fact that [all] truth is written in the Word of God.
God made it simple, " Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ" and thou shalt be saved.
God wrote the Doctrine of the Word of God.
Men continue to re-write the doctrine by their own interpretations.
The word "read" is mentioned 70/70 times in the KJV
The First mention is in Exodus 24:7
The Last is in Revelation 5:4
Nehemiah 8:5,8 KJV
And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people;(for he was above all the people;) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:
So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave [the sense,] and [caused] them to understand the reading.
Isaiah 29:10-14 KJV
For the Lord hath poured out upon you [the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes:] the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath [he covered.]
And the vision of all is become unto you as [the words of a book that is sealed,] which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; [for it is sealed:]
God told Daniel to seal up the VISION, and anoint the Most Holy. 9:24)
and in 12:4 he was to shut up the book, even to the time of the end. Knowledge would increase, and mid way into Jacob's trouble, 31/2 years would be the end of these wonders, when [he] "the prince that shall come" scatters the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. 12:7
And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as [this people] draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but[ have removed their heart far from me,] and their [fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:]
Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among [this people,] even a marvelous work and a wonder: [for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of [their] prudent men shall be hid.]
Isaiah 34:1,2,16,17 KJV
Come near, ye nations, to hear(;) and hearken, ye people(:) let the earth hear, and all that is therein(;) the world, and [all] things that come forth of it. 16) Seek ye out [OF] THE BOOK OF THE LORD, AND READ(:) NO ONE OF THESE SHALL FAIL, NONE SHALL WANT HER MATE(:) FOR [MY MOUTH] IT HATH COMMANDED, AND [HIS SPIRIT] 'IT' HATH GATHERED THEM. 17) AND HE HATH CAST THE LOT FOR THEM, AND HIS HAND DIVIDETH 'IT' UNTO THEM [BY LINE:] [THEY] SHALL POSSESS 'IT' FOREVER, FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION SHALL [THEY] DWELL THEREIN.
I would propose that we would be wise to stick with "the book of the Lord", and not the imaginations of men.
Psalms 12:6-8 KJV
For the words of the Lord are PURE words(:) AS SILVER TRIED IN A FURNACE OF EARTH, PURIFIED SEVEN TIMES. [THOU SHALT KEEP THEM, O LORD, THOU SHALT PRESERVE THEM FROM THIS GENERATION FOR EVER.]
The Wicked WALK ON EVERY SIDE, WHEN THE VILEST MEN ARE EXALTED.
3-5) THE LORD SHALL CUT OFF ALL FLATTERING LIPS, AND THE TONGUE SHALL SPEAKETH PROUD THINGS(:) WHO HAVE SAID, WITH OUR TONGUE WILL WE PREVAIL; OUR LIPS ARE OUR OWN(:) WHO IS LORD OVER US?
for the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, NOW will "I" ARISE, saith the Lord; I WILL SET HIM in safety from HIM THAT PUFFETH at him.
"Shall teach you" is mentioned 3/3 times in the KJV
Deuteronomy 24:8 KJV
But the Comforter, which is The Holy Ghost, whom the Father WILL SEND IN MY NAME, he shall teach you [all] things, and BRING ALL THINGS TO YOUR REMEMBRANCE, WHATSOEVER I" HAVE SAID TO YOU.
The teaching in the link of your post, is a different gospel, a different Spirit, and a different Jesus.( Jesus is God The WORD) "a different Word "
For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth(;) and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
2 Corinthians 11:4 KJV
For if he that cometh preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached, OR if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, OR another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Galatians 1:9 KJV
For if any MAN preach any [other] gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
What is the Book of The Lord?
Can we know the difference of what is called the Book of the Lord?
It is the only Book whereby none will need her mate. All others are forgeries.
The words of past president Ronald Regan.
We Bareans will Seek out the Book of the Lord, and search the scriptures daily, to SEE if these things are so.
One need not to be a so called scholar to read; although a student and pupil is listed under the definition of scholar. I believe it comes down to the question; "are we teachable, or not?
Job 34:32 KJV
That which I see not, teach thou me(:) if I have done iniquity, (wickedness) I will do no more.
Psalms 25:5,12 KJV
Lead me in thy truth, and teach me(:) for thou art the God of my salvation; on thee I do wait all the day.
What man is he that feareth the Lord? him shall he teach in the way that [he shall choose.]
Psalms 27:11) Teach me thy way O Lord, and lead me in [a plain path,] because of my enemies.
of the Word of God
God Bless You
10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 3:41 PM
Thanks for posting...
I don't agree with KML on this issue...but we do have the HOLY SPIRIT to teach us all things and a bible to study to shew ourselves approved.
Thanks again for posting.
I remember when people on Five Doves and accused me of being anti semitic without even understanding what a semite actually means.
I notice a lot of people on FIVE DOVES believe in a 7 year pre tribulation rapture too.
I wonder if KML believe in a 7 year pre tribulation rapture position?
(I'm just typing out loud my thoughts )
Thanks for posting.
With all due respect to KML his response is one of the biggest non-responses I've read. If anyone else can find an actual response to the question in his answer, please point it out to me because all I see is a person doing a lot of talking about things that have nothing to do with the question.
At any rate, of course the 70th week is already fulfilled. Imagine you're sitting in class and the teacher says "I expect everyone's final to be turned in to me in 12 hours." He walks out of the class and you start working on your paper. Then another guy says, "Why are you all working so frantically- we actually have 858 hours to turn out papers in; you see, what he really means is that in 11 hours there will be a gap of, oh, about 847 hours- THEN the final hour, hour twelve, will come. So when he said 12 hours, he really meant, 847 hours- because the 12th hour doesn't chronologically follow the first 11!"
Who would not look at this man and reply, "That has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard."? Now imagine a few other people chime in saying, "No, wait- we think he's right, it really is 858 hours." I don't know about you, but I wouldn't for one second think, "Maybe they're right" I'd be thinking, "Something is affecting these people's minds to believe something completely absurd as this '12th hour doesn't follow 11th' nonsense.
And so it is here as well.
Let me also say - to make sure I'm not misunderstood, given the label of "preterism" in the first post: I'm certainly not saying that the Revelation was already fulfilled in the 70ad campaign of Titus; this is not the case, and I know this is not the case because it's impossible that the Lord would leave the culmination of scripture to secular man to record in secular history. No way no how the Lord would ever operate in this fashion- if 70ad were actually fulfillment of prophecy, then it would be in the bible, and we'd be reading "and thus came Titus according to the word of the Lord" but Titus and 70ad aren't in the scripture and thus are not a fulfillment.
Really, when we all throw secular books into the garbage bin, and keep our mind solely in the scripture- then we will be in a much better place of understanding
To John Cobb,
To both your comments.
Amen (means I agree with you)on this thread.