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Hello all,
This is not easy for me, yet I have to cover this subject as I have no choice. The Lord keeps showing me that this Greatest Deception is going to take place very soon and that I need to warn about it. As reluctant as I am about this, it is something that has been building up and it is time to at least try and convey what I am learning. This is not something secret or hidden as it is readily revealed in the Bible. Yet it is something that the modern church does not, or will not understand and teach. I feel that the great majority of churches have become synagogues of Satan, and therefore his evil agenda is not being revealed. I am not alone in feeling this way, as so many are talking about this very topic of fallen away apostate churches.
The truth about there being no pretribulation rapture has been exposed over and over again on this site, along with the evil roots of this false doctrine. That is good, and is the first step in understanding what this false doctrine is leading to. Yet, now we need to look at why Satan wanted this false doctrine planted in the Church. It will be his GREATEST DECEPTION, and is the STRONG DELUSION that the Lord will let those who do not love the Truth, fall victim to.
EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT AN UPCOMING RAPTURE!!! This has been going on for years, but has risen to high intensity in the last few months as the signs of the times are everywhere!! I go to different websites and look at how everyone is coming up with dates and times and is having visions and dreams etc., everyone seems so excited that the time has finally come. And no one really knows what time it is!!!
This makes me so sad and I have to try to get this out there, as so many are going to be taken in this Great Delusion!! Why do we not see that there is going to be a False COMING, the coming of the False Messiah, BEFORE JESUS COMES!!! Can anyone else see this?? Am I truly alone on having this placed on my heart at this time?
Does anyone besides John Cobb and I see this? He has shown us a date that is coming soon that IS the timing of the coming of the False Christ. He is not saying it is this year, but hey, with all that is going on it sure could be! We need to heed what he is saying!!!! I will post his responses to my questions, about this date, on this thread just in case anyone missed it. For me, John came at the exact time that the Lord was placing this all on my heart, and was definitely a second witness to what I am being shown.
Think about this!! If we are expecting Christ to come when it is actually Satan, what better deception could Satan come up with??? Most are so excited and convinced that this will be Jesus coming for them so they can escape the coming of the Anti-Christ, that they will totally believe that Satan is Christ!! Why do you think Satan had the seeds planted in the Church for hundreds of years…what was it leading to? We are about to find out!!
I am not saying that the Illuminati is going to fake this with high tech gadgets…this will be orchestrated by Satan himself and his demon angels. This is a dimensional thing…they are coming from another dimension, the bottomless pit, the abyss of outer space. We are seeing this happen right now!! If Ison is going to be anything spiritual, it will be evil spirits…IT IS NOT JESUS COMING!! The Illuminati and all those that worship Satan KNOW THAT HE IS COMING!! Lucifer is their Messiah, and they have been party to bringing him in.
Jesus plainly tells us about this deception that we will ALL be witnesses to!! The GREAT FALLING AWAY of the TRUTH in our churches has taken place!!! Now the antichrist will be revealed, and then Jesus will come. There are two comings….False Messiah FIRST, and then Jesus. Let us not be confused about this as it is CRUCUAL!!! Many will be taken in this Delusion, in fact the great majority of New Age Christians…the talk only followers of another Gospel…the modern church members…the GOATS!! Yes this will be an event that does just that separates the True believers, the SHEEP, from this apostate end time church.
I know that I am being rather blunt and adamant about this, but there is little time to be politically correct, or to care if I am popular or not. Please at least give some thought to this issue, and see if it rings true in your hearts.
The following articles discuss this issue just as frankly as I have here, the author pulls no punches and that is actually good, as the subject is one that cannot be danced around. Forgive me is I offend anyone, but I would rather offend than not fulfill the responsibility that the Lord has given to me. I will present these articles in parts, and post them separately and also on this thread. These are only important excerpts, as I only want to discuss this coming delusion and how dangerous it is….especially to Christians.
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What is the hidden danger of Rapture 'Doctrines' ?:
Some might say that as long as those who believe in Rapture also believe upon Jesus Christ, what harm could it do to believe that they will be 'taken' in Rapture before the Antichrist comes. It would possibly do you no everlasting harm to believe in a Rapture theory your whole Christian life, then in the process of time die before you unwittingly worship the False Christ.
Those who have in good faith, believed in a Rapture doctrine and have passed on in times past will not have the opportunity to worship the false Christ, antichrist, when he comes, because they truly "will be gone.' The only concern they may have is that they undoubtedly have led many others astray by teaching the false doctrine of Rapture, and those that they taught might be here when antichrist comes. There is certain innocence in ignorance and let God be the Judge. We judge no man, although we do discern false doctrine and speak against them with the Holy Scriptures of God as our Witness.
God's Elect shall be on the earth during the Great Tribulation, there will be no "Rapture of the righteous!" What did Jesus mean when He said: "Behold, I have told you before."? {Mat 24:25}. He was telling us about the false messiah, the spurious messiah, the antichrist whom is Satan that shall come to this earth claiming to be the true Messiah.
Many on the earth who are waiting for a 'Rapture of the Saints' before the Second Advent will believe that the antichrist truly is the Messiah Jesus Christ. That is the danger in the Rapture theories (among the other false church systems, dogmas, and doctrines of men), they don't warn the people that there are two saviors coming, first, the false savior antichrist, and then after him, the True Savior Messiah Jesus Christ comes at His Second Advent.
Hence Jesus mused: "...Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" {Luke 18:8}. Will He?!? Will he find you being faithful or worshipping Satan the antichrist, waiting in line to be Raptured somewhere? God knows.
Mark 13:23-27
23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. (KJV)
And really, isn't the Rapture theory just another way of man manufacturing a second chance? Just as with Buddhism (another lie from Satan), where if you don't get it right in this life time, you can be reincarnated for another chance. In the same way, do not the Rapture doctors teach you what to do if you 'miss the boat' on the Rapture? Sure they do, they even have movies and books dedicated to guiding those who weren't Raptured. The "Left behind" series is one such farce, supported by most of the more vocal Rapture doctors.
Beloved, there is no second chance, is it not written: "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" {Heb 9:27}. A Rapture of some before the end would constitute a second chance for those not taken who did not overcome and were not taken up in the first out-gathering. There are no second chances!
The end times will come upon us in this generation as the Bible states that they shall: " Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled." {Luke 21:32}.
And then there will be 'one' who comes stating that he is the Messiah of God. This 'one', "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." {2nd Thes 2:4}, will state that he is here to save the world from itself and from their sins.
You will observe that you were not raptured out of here and that that there was in fact no Rapture. You will begin to wonder if this one is truly Jesus Christ or the impostor (whom the Rapturist hasn't been warned about). However, you will be totally unprepared to make that judgment because you had spent your whole Christian life waiting to removed, before this time came.
You will have absolutely no chance to withstand the deception because quite frankly, you have been kept ignorant to the prophecies of its very existence, and thus wholly unprepared to discern the events that are transpiring around you in rapid-fire succession. You are exactly where Satan has craftily led you.
We do not want this to happen to you, for we know that the “Rapturist” truly do love the Lord and abhor the devil. Don't allow Satan to prostitute your soul, which, while not a very nice way to put it, is in fact what shall transpire if you do not stop listening to false teachers and start listening to your Heavenly Father and study His Word, the Bible, instead of the non-Biblical fantasies dreamed up by the Rapture teachers.
Sorry friend; But Satan wants you to think there is always time later to obey God, always time later to study His letter to you, the Bible that containing all warnings; always time later....
'Later' never comes until it is 'now,' and then it is too late, Satan knows this. You must study God's Word now, for all true wisdom comes from God: "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction." {Prov 1:7}. It is the wisdom of our Heavenly Father's Word, contained in the Bible, which shall protect us from the deception and false doctrines of men of reprobate hearts.
Prov 4:1-7
1 Hear, ye children, the instruction of a father, and attend to know understanding.
2 For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law.
3 For I was my father's son, tender and only beloved in the sight of my mother.
4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live.
5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
6 Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee.
7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. (KJV)
An ominous muse from the author of the Left Behind ‘Rapture’ series
You have all probably heard of the Left Behind series, which is a series of books that gives a play-by-play of the supposed rapture as it happens, future yet. The series is classified as Christian Fiction, but many regard it as Biblical prophecy.
Below we take a quote from the author that appeared in CBN news (Christian Broadcast Network), September 23, 2000. CBN News is a supporter of the series and a Rapture believing ministry network. The author of the Left Behind series relates how he experiences strange ‘happenings’ as he writes the on-going 15 book series. He felt that something supernatural was wrong but errantly attributes to Satan which may well have been warnings from God:
"I’ve never felt the spiritual battle and oppression as I have writing these books. The enemy can’t be happy about the spiritual results from these books. "
-- Jerry B. Jenkins author of the Left Behind series
But once we fully realize "the spiritual results from these books" we begin to wonder just who this "enemy" is. Although Jenkins admits he’s not the type to look for a devil under every rock, "I’ve never felt the spiritual battle and oppression as I have writing these books," he says.
When Jenkins sits at his computer to write, he feels totally exhausted. Or his computer, which normally works fine, will suddenly develop multiple problems. "The enemy can’t be happy about the spiritual results from these books," he says.
The Left Behind series has also been printed into a series of children’s books called Left Behind: The Kids, targeted to ages 8 through 12! The ten kids’ titles also have been best sellers.
The novels have sold more than 18 million copies, making them the best-selling Christian fiction series in history. In early October, Left Behind: the Movie Soundtrack hits bookstores, then the video release will be in late October with the Left Behind movie release in February 2001.
Many men (and women) are being used by Satan in these end-times to spread lies and false doctrine. The above author of the Left Behind series would do well to observe what the man below is going through after he realized that he was a pawn of Satan.
Below is a quotation from Dr. Frank Logsdon, one of the Scholars who worked on the corrupted New American Standard Version Bible translation (NASB or NASV) after he was made aware of the alterations and corruptions that appear in that Bible version. This Bible version was translated from the corrupted (Nestles) Greek text, the same text (different edition) of the NIV New Testament, which is a very popular Bible version with the Rapturists. You can’t help pitying the man, but let it serve as a lesson to always be on guard for Satan’s deceptions, for Satan is cunning and deceitful!
"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field..." {Gen 3:1}
Quote of Dr. Logsdon, as found in New Age Bible Versions, by G. Riplinger; preface page 3:
"I must under God renounce every attachment to the New American Standard...I'm afraid I'm in trouble with the Lord...We laid the groundwork; I wrote the format; I helped interview some of the translators; I sat with the translator; I wrote the preface...
I'm in trouble; I can’t refute these arguments; it’s wrong, it’s terribly wrong; it's frighteningly wrong; and what am I going to do about it?...I can no longer ignore these criticisms [of the corruptions in the New American Standard Version Bible (NASB/NASV)] I am hearing and I can't refute them...
When questions began to reach me at first I was quite offended. However, in attempting to answer, I began to sense that something was not right about the NASV. Upon investigation, I wrote my very dear friend, Mr. Lockman, explaining that I was forced to renounce all attachment to the NASV...The product is grievous to my heart and helps to complicate matters in these already troublous times...The deletions are absolutely frightening...there are so many...Are we so naive that we do not suspect Satanic deception in all of this?...
I don't want anything to do with it... he finest leaders that we have today...haven't gone into it [the new version's use of the corrupted (Nestles) Greek text, the same text (different edition) of the NIV New Testament], just as I hadn't gone into it...That's how easily one can be deceived...I'm going to talk to him [Dr. George Sweeting, then president of Moody Bible Institute] about these things...
ou can say the Authorized Version [KJV] is absolutely correct. How correct? 100% correct! If you must stand against everyone else, stand."
--Dr. Frank Logsdon; NASB/NASV Bible Editor
(End of quote)
You must always be careful about the Scribes (writers, copyists) of the newer Bible versions and/or other books that presume to bring to you the Word of God. Satan from the beginning has attempted to corrupt the written Word of God and has infiltrated the copyists (scribes) with his very own people. In the below, the Kenites are the children of Cain the first murderer
1 Chr 2:55 (Approx 990-509 B.C.)
55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab. (KJV)
Kenites: Hebrew word #7017 Qeyniy (kay-nee'); or Qiyniy (1 Chron. 2:55) (kee-nee'); patronymic from 7014; a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin [Cain].
Cain: Hebrew word #7014 Qayin (kah'-yin); the same as 7013 (with a play upon the affinity to 7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Palestine, and of an Oriental tribe: KJV-- Cain, Kenite (-s).
Christian beware! For as Jesus Christ warns us: "Beware of the scribes" {Mk 12:38, Lk 20:46}. May God bless your understanding, may God protect His in that time, and may He open the eyes and the hearts of His children that He will to the truth and lead them away from that wicked one who seeks only to "destroy wonderfully" {Dan 8:24} continually.
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This is just the beginning a brief introduction of articles that I will be presenting. Take from them what you may. I am not doing this to cause dissention, or to take away anyone’s hope of being with Jesus during the time of the Great Tribulation…as He will be with us, and there will be nothing to fear. If I did not care whether my brothers and sisters are swept up in deception, I would not bother to be doing this. In fact, I really do not want to be doing this, as I don’t know if I can handle the job. Yet, I have to try. If anyone else out there is having this coming deception being placed on their heart, I would love to hear from you.
Out of love for you all,
JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!
Patti C.
A repost about the date 12/13/13 to follow…….please read what John Cobb says about this date.
12/13/13 THE TENTH DAY OF THE TENTH MONTH
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Hello all,
This date was brought to my attention recently by a man named John Cobb, on this site, that mentioned it twice in response to my post entitled WHO IS ZION? Both times he mentions this date it has been in regard to the Antichrist. I have never looked into this particular date before, and was very intrigued by what I found out. The following is a brief look at the 10th month, and then the 10th day.
I hope John will add what his take on this date is, and how he sees it, in regards to the revealing of the Antichrist. I have asked him about this on the thread about Zion, but thought I would open the door to his explanation by starting a new thread, so more people will see it.
First we will look at the significance of the 10th Month on the Hebrew Calendar, and then the 10th Day. It is interesting that this 10th month relates to Nimrod and pagan worship of the planet Saturn.
THE MONTH
God's holy seasons-The Hebrew calendar-Tevet the 10th month
Tevet, the 10th month on the Hebrew (God's) calendar
This month of Tevet, which falls around December and January, is known to stir up many evil desires into peoples lives,
The Hebrew word Tevet means: The tenth attribute that enables a human being to be able to exchange or trade the gifts or talents of his natural strength into the spiritual realm that designs the purpose of his life.
The physical act of Giving ones tithe to God, being generous, sharing, the buying and selling or trading of things which promotes God's reality in the earth,is also part of the spiritual energies which are released by God during the the tenth month called "Tevet" on God's Hebrew calendar.
But on the other hand "Tevet" is also the season when the negative energies of selfishness, evil eye, love of money, evil trading, slavery, the buying and selling of idols becomes evident in this season.
The origin of evil trade:
The tenth month on the Hebrew calendar is the season when the forces of evil which opposes God's authority in the earth begins to warfare and to contend against God's chosen ones.
Nimrod, the founder of the Babylonian system of trading (selling, making & buying of idols) established a law of opposing God through trading, where his stock market sold items of sorcery, witchcraft and magic.
And later on in time the Roman Empire (catholic church) transformed Nimrod's law of trading into a season called saturnalia and the selling of the commodities that exalted their small god called janus and saturn.
Trading of the gifts that go under the tree:
The ancient readings said that Nimrod killed his father and married his mother.
After the death of Nimrod, his mother continued to be the queen over his kingdom.
She had a dream and in that dream she saw Nimrod bringing presents (stolen goods), that he had plundered from the people that refused to exalt him and serve him as king,
And when he brought these treasures he put them under a tree. When the queen woke up from her dream, she commanded that her kingdom should continue to put presents under the green tree, in honor of Nimrod's birthday which falls on the (25th of December, Christmas).
In this month Ezra & Nehemiah died.
It is said; that people being born in this month, has a strong connection to the physical and material world, which denies God's existence, but it is also said that; if those same people are able to find a spiritual & godly leadership that can help them to shift their energies, and invest or trade them in God, they also can become so zealous for God, and turn out to be strong leaders for God.
Tevet means "ten" in Hebrew; Tevet shares the same root as the Hebrew word "tov", which means "good." However, in this month, we commemorate many sad events, including the Tenth of Tevet.
The letter ayin means "eye" in Hebrew. The month of Tevet is the month of the rectification and nullification of the "evil eye".
The word Tevet itself is referring to "tov ayin", "the goodly eye" (the source of the power of blessing, as it is said: "the goodly eye shall bless").
Tevet begins its cycle with the last days of Hanukah welcoming it in and gazing at the Chanukah candles, and God planned it this way.
This day is the climax, really its the culminating day of Hanukah, the "eighth day" which is called "Zot Chanukah" by the Rabbis. The meaning of Zot Hanukah or 8th Dedication, literally means: "this is Hanukkah!"
All destructive process begins with the "evil eye" of hatred, the hatred of the profane to the holy (the secret of ten, the holy number).
The month of contending for your faith in God.
Remember this day, the "eighth day" is called "Zot Hanukah" as we said before, but why is it so named? Zot means, "this" and Zot Hanukah is also called the "final seal."
"And Abraham received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith, and it was "this" (zot) "eighth day" circumcision given to Abraham that would reveal the Spiritual. (Roman 4:11)
This month falls in December or January.
(THIS YEAR 2013 IT FALLS ON DECEMBER 13)
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THE TENTH DAY
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Tenth of Tevet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tenth of Tevet
Hebrew: עשרה בטבת
Commemorate: the siege of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylonia
Observances: Fasting
Tenth of Tevet (Hebrew: עשרה בטבת, Asarah BeTevet), the tenth day of the Hebrew month of Tevet, is a fast day in Judaism. It is one of the minor fasts observed from before dawn to nightfall. The fast commemorates the siege of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylonia—an event that began on that date and ultimately culminated in the destruction of Solomon's Temple (the First Temple) and the conquest of the Kingdom of Judah (today southern Israel).
The day has no relationship to Chanukka, but it happens to follow that festival by a week. Whether the 10th of Tevet falls 7 or 8 days after Chanukka depends on whether the preceding Hebrew month of Kislev has 29 or 30 days in the relevant year.
According to II Kings (25:1–25:4), on the 10th day of the 10th month (which is Tevet when counted from Nisan, the "first month" according to Exodus 12:1–2), in the ninth year of Zedekiah's reign (588 BCE), Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king, began the siege of Jerusalem.
A year and a half later, on the 17th of Tammuz in the eleventh year of Zedekiah's reign(586 BCE) (Jeremiah 52.6–7), he broke through the city walls. The siege ended with the destruction of the Temple three weeks later, on the 9th of Av, the end of the first Kingdoms and the exile of the Jewish people to Babylon. The Tenth of Tevet is thus considered part of the cycle of fasts connected with these events, which includes: Shivah Asar B'Tammuz (17th of Tammuz) and Tisha B'Av (9th of Av).
The first reference to the Tenth of Tevet as a fast appears in Zechariah (8:19) where it is called the "fast of the tenth month." One opinion in the Talmud (b. Rosh Hashana 18b) states that the "fast of the tenth month" refers to the fifth of Tevet, when, according to Ezekiel (33:21), news of the destruction of the Temple reached those already in exile in Babylon. However, the tenth is the date observed today, according to the other opinion presented in the Talmud. Other references to the fast and the affliction can be found in Ezekiel 24:1–24:2 (the siege) and Jeremiah (52:4–52:6}.
The Ninth of Tevet was a Tragic Day
On the ninth of Tevet, "something happened, but we do not know what it was..." (Shulchan Aruch). The selichot liturgy for the day states that Ezra the Scribe, the great leader who brought some Jews back to the Holy Land from the Babylonian exile and who ushered in the era of the Second Temple, died on this day, and this is verified by the Kol Bo.
But according to the earlier sources (the Geonim as recorded by Bahag and cited in Tur Orach Chaim 580), the specific tragedy of 9 Tevet is unknown. Some manuscripts of Bahag (obviously not those available to the Tur) add that Ezra and Nechemiah died on this day—but only after first stating that the Rabbis have given no reason for why the day is tragic. Other suggestions are given as to why the ninth of Tevet is notable as well.
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I now can understand why John is mentioning this day in his responses to my posts. It seems to have a great deal of historical significance to the Hebrew people, and is also important to end times events, and how and when certain conditions are ripe for manifestation.
I would greatly like to hear John’s take on why he has mentioned this date in regards to the Antichrist, as he has a wonderful way with words and exposing the truth in the Scriptures.
Thanks ahead of time, John, for helping us all to understand this better.
JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!
Patti C.
John Cobb
Nov 17, 2013 - 1:57PM
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Re: 12/13/13 THE TENTH DAY OF THE TENTH MONTH
Patti, being unsure of where you're at on the proverbial road of understanding, it's difficult for me to respond to things as I'm not sure if a foundation needs laid, so to speak: I'm not sure what you know and what you're yet to know, if you understand me. So I'm just going to respond, and if there's something you don't follow, we back up and start in a earlier place of understanding.
http://528491apocalypse.blogspot.com/
^this blog is mine and I put here maybe 10 small articles- I know many don't like to have to read a lot, so I try here to keep the info to the bare minimum that I feel is a good foundation for which to build upon. If you feel lead to read, do so and if there are any misunderstandings, the info there should create a little more clarity on the issue.
Having said that:
You'll see that I do focus on the Tevet 10 date; and will be doing so for the forseeable future. Most times I will not even discuss scripture, but just relay the Tevet 10 warning, over and again, to burn it into people's minds. The times and seasons will be crucial to understanding. Many of the propheies look difficult to us, and we differ on a great many understandings of what they mean, and who they signify, etc. But there is no way to misunderstand a date on a calendar, so I simply give the timing and let it work from there.
I'm going to presume you understand what the Lev 23 festivals of the Lord signify; so we see here that the times and seasons of the Lord's advents are appointed by the Lord; thus Jesus is crucified as our Passover on the appointed day, rises to become the first fruits on the appointed day, and baptizes with the Holy Spirit, the baptism of fire appointed to Pentecost. Now we await the fulfilling of the fall festivals at the second advent, in the 7th month. So we have here the appointed times of the coming of the King of Israel. The Word actually reveals to us the exact day of the month on which the King of Israel would appear.
Mr 13:34 For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
Prov 7:19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:
20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.
So the day of the coming of the King of Israel is appointed by the very Word of God, you see?
Now of all the other kings in all of the bible; all of the other people- not a peep is given ever about the time of their coming. The Assyrian did to Israel what Nebuchadnezzar did to Judah but not a peep about when the Assyrian came into the land. Nothing for anyone. Except the King of Babylon. Of all of the kings in scripture, there are only two- count them TWO- that have exact day-month timing attached to their coming. Two kings; two comings; two dates. King of Israel and King of Babylon.
Now not only did God record this date of the coming of the lawless one (for the King of Babylon is called King of the Nations- and the nations have not the torah- the law- they are LAWLESS/TORAHLESS; and this King if the LAWLESS ONE; called also the Destroyer:
Jer 4:7 The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles(lawless) is on his way; he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate; and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant.) but the Lord straight out COMMANDED Ezkiel to "Write down the name of the day: this very day: this same day: this day the King of Babylon came to attack Jerusalem: WRITE IT DOWN!
Now it should be apparent that the Revelation is about Babylon vs. Israel. Now of all of the kings of the scripture, why do we think the Lord is so very adamant about thrice recording the precise day of the coming of this "lawless king" who was to overcome the saints, take them captive, demand the earth worship his image or die? Why does Rev 12 show the exact same thing happening again?
I assure anyone reading this with utmost certainty that the "coming of the lawless one" with "all power and authority" to cause "apostacy" and sit in the seat of God, will happen precisely on Tevet 10. Because it is appointed him by the Word of God.
I'm confident that if I can burn into your minds that TEVET 10 IS THE COMING OF THE KING OF CONFUSION; then that is all anyone really needs to know for now. I don't think many are expecting a false second coming with a false Jesus and lying angels, and such: most seem to expect, Barak Obama, or Assad of Syria, perhaps a Muslim cleric of some sort- but few expect what will really come to pass. Now I can sit all day and talk about these things, and people will respond, some will say "not so, it must be Obama" or "It is Prince Charles" or some other flesh man; and as much as I may say "I feel you are mistaken, and this is the devil himself with all his angels deceiving everyone, and the dead church specifically, into worship of him."
But if I just simply say TEVET 10, and show you the passages clearly stating this; then when this event occurs on Tevet 10, you'll recognize who he really is. This way one may disagree with me and have in his mind a false understanding he is expecting to come to pass: but as long as I can say TEVET 10 = King of Babylon: then they will begin to understand and believe on that day. And I am sure that anyone I am talking to about this, when Tevet 10 comes with the parousia of the lawless; this person will be understanding "had not God intervened and gave me this knowledge; I would surely be on my knees in worship of the false Christ right now"
because he will be completely irresistable to anyone who doesn't know the timing of the coming of the two kings, and who they really are.
For instance, I have talked with many people who do not understand as I do; they believe the common teachings of a pre-trib rapture, a fleshly Israel of promise, a Islamic beast-body, etc. and I talk to many and do not speak against there understanding; but only say "Tevet 10 is the king of confusion" and many of them have come to agree with me, and believe they will be raptured out on Tevet 10 when the great Tribulation begins, and the third temple, etc. but I have burned into their minds this day, and so when they see the false Christ- they will know who he is, and begin to come into understanding of the prophets. As now they are waiting for stuff like, Assad to invade Israel on Tevet 10, and then the rapture etc.
But as long as they know TEVET 10 KING OF CONFUSION- then when they see a "catholic apocalypse" with "Jesus" taking over the catholic church and beginning the "kingdom of peace" they will first maybe have a bit of joy in their heart because it's Jesus? But they will be in winter, and they will begin to understand the prophets- because they will be thinking "this has not going according to my expectations; but this cannot be Jesus this is Tevet 10!"
This is why I mainly just focus on the calendar appointments in the bible (flood/exodus/king of babylon/purim/temple restoration) because no one can misunderstand a date on a calendar that is aligned with the seasons and such. If you have yet to understand the biblical appointments- look at the gen 6 flood again. Seem odd to you that the Lord puts a day-month timeline in there? This is God we're talking about so if He is writing it in his book, it must be very important.
So why tell us specifically the flood began on the 17th day of the 2nd month? Why tell us the tops of the mountains were seen on the 1st day of the 10th month? It turns out that the bible is like the DNA of the creation: what's written in the book is what comes to pass. Always and exactly at the appointed time.
Two kings; two dates; two comings- one evil, one good. Only the elect will be able to tell the difference, and this only by the Word of God.
Most assuredly the antichrist will come to the seige of Jerusalem on Tevet 10 as suredly as the Messiah Jesus will come in the 7th month afterward: much to the dismay of a GREAT number of lukewarm Christians. Weeping and gnashing of teeth is the perfect analogue.
Believe me when I tell you that you are going to be brought before people to answer why you do not make supplication to the "King of Israel" and the only answer you'll find is "because he came on Tevet 10- this is the devil, and not the Christ" and you are going to be leaving a trail of devastated people in your wake as you proceed toward the gathering at armageddon: which is interpreted: the mountain of the gathering.
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John Cobb
Nov 17, 2013 - 2:20PM
Re: 12/13/13 THE TENTH DAY OF THE TENTH MONTH
If you want to watch the first half of the apocalypse:
http://vimeo.com/63049887
understand that you are Jeremiah; the Israelites are Christians; Nebuchadnezzar is the antichrist; Jerusalem is the church; etc.
In a like vein, Tevet 10 this year is December 13 (friday the 13th tio boot) and this movie the Hobbit releases then: watch this trailer and you will also see the apocalypse: you are Bilbo and you will certainly be facing the Red Dragon himself so this is like a preview of your journey to come, into the desolation of the Dragon, to reclaim the lost homeland, and the rightful King of the Mountain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUC8gDTI9qg
by the way you know how you would say "let's watch a movie?" if you were in ancient Israel? Only one word will suffice: "let's watch a VISION"
Jer 21:10 For I have set my face against this city for evil, and not for good, saith the LORD: it shall be given into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall burn it with fire.
Jer 34:3 And thou shalt not escape out of his hand, but shalt surely be taken, and delivered into his hand; and thine eyes shall behold the eyes of the king of Babylon, and he shall speak with thee mouth to mouth, and thou shalt go to Babylon.
Jer 42:11 Be not afraid of the king of Babylon, of whom ye are afraid; be not afraid of him, saith the LORD: for I am with you to save you, and to deliver you from his hand.
Hi Patti,
Thanks for the post.
With all due respect.
I can assure you that for several years ON THIS SITE we have been posting many article especially recently all the points you are NOW discovering.
I really appreciate your enthusiasm and urgency to share and I do NOT want to slow you down in any manner.
However you and John Cobb are not the only ones discussing the rapture timing , the anti Christ and the WRATH of the LORD.
All of us have a little different IDEA how it may unfold but you are not the ONLY TWO with a sense of the times.
Keep Posting and Sharing JESUS while you still are able.
Respectfully,
God Bless
Steven
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Hi Steven,
I know this site is a treasure trove of discussion on all the issues you mentioned as I read and view as many as I can and am blessed by them. I am sorry if I made it sound like John and I were the only ones doing so, as in that regard nothing could be further from the truth!
What I was trying to say, and obvious not doing a very good job of it, was the timing of the 10th day of the 10 month is happening really soon and with everything else that is happening in the world, it would be a time to look at for this major deception to occur. It just seems that so many are looking for the rapture of the church at a time when it could be just the opposite. I am not saying that those on this site are, as much as what I see on other sites.
Also, I have not seen many articles about the coming of the False Messiah recently, and have never seen one that gave a good date in which to expect it in regards to what is revealed in Scripture. It is news to me, and it seemed important to share. It does worry me that millions may deceived by this, but as you seemed to point out, it is all in the Lord's hands, and He has it all under control.
Thanks for you input. I enjoyed the Elijah story.
God Bless,
Patti C.
Hi Patti, just have a question and a speculation, if the false messiah is coming on Tevet 10 then in order for the world to embrace such a person wouldn't they need a reason to embrace him? True believers believe that the rapture will take place before our messiah sets foot on earth so anyone claiming that status in my mind would immediately seem to be the false messiah. In other words, if we're going to meet Jesus in the air 1 Thess 4:13-18 then why would I believe this would be Him on Tevet 10 here on earth? I would also speculate that this false messiah is going to rescue the world out of some seemingly impossible mess which to me would be the only way the WHOLE world would embrace someone, because if things are as they are right now why would people have need to embrace him? It is true there are many now who are in dire situations but the majority at the moment really have no need for a messiah in their worldly thinking. So my theory is if this person or deception is coming on Tevet 10 then something drastic or disastrous is going to happen prior to that and if we're still here we'll know it's not Jesus because that's not how He said He would rescue us. I've seen some dates popping up about 11/21-22 and 11/28 about a possible EMP attack shutting down all the power grids maybe this could be the disaster the false messiah is going rescue the world out of in order for everyone to embrace him?
Dear walknbyfaith,
Great questions and insightful speculations! Thank you for joining this discussion. Actually, I am still working on finding out what could take place to make the world believe this strong delusion. Right now I strongly feel that it is tied in with Comet Ison, and will be presenting more about that shortly. Plus, even though I feel strongly that it will be this year that does not mean it will be. The date of the 10th day of the 10th month is one that gives us the time of year to expect the False Messiah, in whatever form that “coming” may take and whatever year it may fall on. Much like the Last Great Day gives us the timing and season that Christ will return.
As to meeting the Lord in the air, if the “being” that is coming is extra dimensional, it certainly would be possible for many of his followers to be caught up in some way, as in a fake rapture. I just don’t know how that will play out, but I do think there are many possibilities, as this has been planned for centuries. Another real possibility is that this “glorious being” is so convincing that millions of modern day Christians who are not grounded in the Truth, will be taken with this deception, as Christianity has become so mixed in with Islam and New Age doctrine, which believe that their Messiah is coming to earth.
I agree with your speculation that many things could happen between now and then, either having to do with Ison, or something planned by the Illuminati, and their time and weather manipulation, that could possibly lead to such destruction that the world will be longing to be saved. I strongly agree that it will have to be a situation of chaos that this False Messiah will bring order to, and as such, right now, we have many possibilities in almost every regard. Either Ison, or major earthquakes, or financial collapse, we are ripe for major disasters on all fronts.
Mainly, I wanted to alert Christians to the date when the False Messiah most likely will come, as it is one that is Biblically supported, and one that I had never seen or heard about, until John Cobb presented his findings. Other than that, I can only speculate and research into what it all means. I will continue to do that, not just as to it being a false rapture, but other possible great deceptions that could take place, that Christians not grounded in Christ and the true Gospel, could be taken in.
Thank you again, and bless you for joining in this conversation. I am sorry if I could only answer your questions with more questions, but as to exactly what and how this will all come about I really cannot answer at this time. I am still looking into it and will hopefully present more puzzle pieces and points to ponder in the near future.
We have to remember that God is allowing this to take place, and therefore it is in His hands. He is the one sending this Strong Delusion, so anything is possible.
JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!
Your sister in Christ,
Patti C.
John, point taken, so what would say about the skeptics and atheist in order for them to embrace him? Seeing is not necessarily believing if it were there wouldn't be any skeptics. My point was there are a lot of NON religious folk out there who don't give a second thought about God or allah or buddah, secular minded people who will embrace this guy. At no point in history has everyone embraced one individual even God Himself which is why in my opinion, in order for an atheist to make that leap, this person would have to rescue them out of something. I'm not being dogmatic about it but I'd think it would be a pretty hard sell otherwise.
Hi Walknbyfaith,
You brought up some really good points, and I hope John Cobb will see this post and answer, as I have already put in my take on it. I think you are right about many secular people who have no thoughts about spiritual matters and therefore are rather neutral on this issue. Personally, I think they have a better chance of being saved during the tribulation then the ones who have been fooled by false religions and false doctrines. But, the Lord tells us He is the One sending the Strong Delusion, so maybe because they never considered these things, and His existence, they will be overtaken by it.
I am more convinced than ever that ISON has a major role in all of this. I hope you are keeping up on all the insightful information being presented here on this forum, everyday on this subject. If you have read my studies about the 144,000 and the sealing that will happen before the Great Tribulation, you will see that I believe that this is what so many are seeing as a rapture. Yet, the meeting takes place in the air and they will return to earth in resurrected bodies and protect the church and evangelize the rest of the world. None of us goes to heaven and stays there, until the very end. There is a difference between Satan's wrath and God's wrath, the 144,000 are sealed right before Satan's wrath and the rest of the Church is raptured before God's wrath at the pouring out of the vials.
I won't go into that all here, but have a study that I am preparing and hopefully will begin posting tomorrow that explains this in a most biblically supported way. I hope it will help you understand how all these pieces fit into the whole puzzle of the awesome mystery of God's plan for His people.
Again, thanks for your input, and hopefully John will be able to shed more light on all of this.
God Bless you,
JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!
Patti C.
John, I imagine that scenario might play out for some, but, there are people who don't even know who Jesus or Muhammad is. I just look at all the households with teens and the youth of today and what they're being taught in school, who weren't raised in any kind of spiritual upbringing, they only now what their science teacher has taught them or how about career oriented people, successful just enjoying life. There are people who are completely oblivious and apathetic to anything spiritual. I remember overhearing a conversation in the mall with two teenage girls around Christmas, one girl said to the other "Did you know Christmas is Jesus' birthday? She replied, "What? Huh uh?". I've read how some are speculating it might come in the form of alien contact and they're going to tell us we are just beings of their watered down DNA. There are some who might buy that if that went down but I'm also guessing there are a lot who would not. However this plays out it will be unprecedented, and compelling enough for most all to embrace,that we can be sure of.
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