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WHERE EAGLES GATHER


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Hello All!
The passages in the NT that speak about eagles gathering around a body are very difficult to understand, especially when the word carcass is used. As much as it looks like they are speaking of a devouring of evil flesh, I think just the opposite is true. Below is a short study of the question, that I feel gives the best answer. If we look at the word usage in each instance, and other places in the Bible that eagles are mentioned, the picture, of what Jesus is trying to give, becomes clearer.

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What did Jesus mean in Luke 17:37 about the eagles gathered around the body?


"And they answered and said to Him, 'Where, Lord? So He said to them, 'Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together" (Luke 17:37). When answering the question of what Jesus meant, we must first ask ourselves if there any other verses in the Bible that might help answer this question.

In this case, yes there are. A parallel account of this was recorded in Matthew 24:28, and in both places, it appears that Jesus was paraphrasing the inspired words of Job: "Does the eagle mount up at your command, and make its nest on high? On the rocks it dwells and resides, on the crag of the rock and the stronghold. From there it spies out the prey; its eyes observe from afar. Its young ones suck up blood; and where the slain are, there it is" (Job 39:27-30).

Its interesting to note that the Hebrew word for "slain" in this verse is chalal, which can be translated "pierced to death."

The symbolism in this allegory of Job helps unlock the mysterious but valuable message Jesus Christ gave many years later. Other scriptures show by analogy, metaphor, or allegory what "eagles" can symbolize. Isaiah spoke of eagles as an allegory of Gods faithful people:

"But those who wait on the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint" (Isaiah 40:3).

Where does Job say the eagle dwells? On the rocks, when using the symbolism of Gods people, points to Jesus Christ, who is our spiritual Rock (1 Corinthians 10:4).


What is the "prey," which is "afar off" that the "eagles" seek? The answer is found in Matthew 6:33 —the Kingdom of God and His righteousness.

Now that we have unlocked the symbolic meaning of Job 39:27-30, we need to read Christ's statement in Luke 17:37 and Matthew 24:28 and ask what the context surrounding these verses is.

In both accounts, the context is about the coming Kingdom of God on Earth. Notice how right before Luke 17:37
in verses 24-36, Jesus prophesies the events immediately preceding His return to this earth and the resurrection of Gods faithful people:

"For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day…Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left. Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left" (Luke 17:24 , Luke 17:35-36).

The same is true in the verses right before Matthew 24:28
. So the context of the statement is of the end of the age, just preceding Christs return and the resurrection of Gods people.

We can now understand that Jesus Christ is the "body" around whom the "eagles" (the Church, His faithful people) will congregate at the resurrection when Jesus returns to this world to rule over all the nations as King of Kings (Revelation 11:15, Zechariah 14:9, Revelation 5:10).

It was our Savior Jesus Christ who allowed Himself to be pierced and bleed to death to become a "carcass" before He was resurrected. He was dead for three days and three nights and did not go to His Father in heaven during His time in the grave.

Did the faithful "eagles (Gods faithful disciples) gather around Jesus Christ when He was resurrected then? Yes they certainly did. Paul recorded how Jesus was seen by over 500 brethren during the 40 days He revealed Himself after His resurrection to life again (1 Corinthians 15:6).

Will Gods faithful people be resurrected in the end of the age and gather around the "body" of the returning Jesus Christ? Yes, indeed they will:

"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord" (1Thessalonians 4:16-17).

We too can be considered by God to be worthy "eagles" in that resurrection, to be with the "body" of Jesus Christ when He returns in power to set up His Kingdom on Earth, and to rule over all the nations with His faithful people.

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Some see these passages in Matthew and Luke to be about the Rapture, but I think it is about His Second Coming. The above article seems to come to the same conclusion. I believe that the elect will be here until the Second Coming, and it is the Second Coming that will come like a thief in the night to those who think he will take us out before the tribulation. We are already in the tribulation, and we will hopefully stand to the end. After all Jesus told us He would be with us until the end, and I for one believe Him!!

Agape!

Patti

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DO YOU NOT BELIEVE JESUS WHO SAID........





Twice He said that there will be dead carcasses and dead bodies being devoured by eagles in Israel BEFORE the rapture occurs !!! Why doesn't anybody listen to Him ???




The rapture occurs in Matthew 24:31 which is three verses AFTER Matthew 24:28




He says it again in Luke 17:34




I am not normally a betting man, but I will bet anything that the rapture will not happen until there are dead carcasses and bodies on the ground in Israel BECAUSE JESUS SAID SO !!!!







According to Your Infallible Word, come Lord Jesus !




Bruce Warner, Scripturalist







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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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Bruce Warner has a few posts on this site on the topic of eagles carcass :

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HERE IS WHAT JESUS SAID IS 'A SIGN' OF HIS COMING......






Jesus was asked:




Matthew 24:3


"...And what will be the sign of Your coming.... ?"




And Jesus answered:




Matthew 24:28

"For wherever the carcass is, THERE the eagles will be gathered together."




When you know where "there" is you will know 'where' the eagles will be gathered together with the carcasses at the time of His coming. the clue is given in Matthew 24:27 and Matthew 24:29 which are the Scriptures preceding and following Matthew 24:28. Also read Luke 17:37.




Matthew 24:28 is one of the least understood Scriptures in the Bible. When you properly understand it you will also know when the rapture will occur because Jesus gave it as a clue.







According to Your Infallible Word, come Lord Jesus !




Bruce Warner, Scripturalist




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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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Hi Patti....

Just to let you know that I'm in agreement with you on this one....GREAT ASSESSMENT!!

YsiC,

Arlene

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MEET "THE EAGLES" SPOKEN OF in MATTHEW 24:28 and LUKE 17:37......






MEET "THE EAGLES" SPOKEN OF in MATTHEW 24:28 and LUKE 17:37......







Matthew 24:28

"For wherever the CARCASS is, there THE EAGLES will be GATHERED TOGETHER."




Read the following Scriptures to meet "THE EAGLES" and learn why they are "GATHERED TOGETHER".







Ezekiel 39:4

"...I will give you to the BIRDS OF PREY of every sort.......TO BE DEVOURED."




Ezekiel 39:17-20

".....Speak to every sort OF BIRD....Assembles yourselves and come; GATHER TOGETHER from all sides to My sacrificial meal.....That you may EAT FLESH and DRINK BLOOD....You shall be filled at my table with horses ( CARCASSES ) and riders ( BODIES ) and with all the men of war, says the Lord God."




If you consider yourself to be a serious student of the Scriptures you will study Ezekiel 39 in context with Matthew 24:28 and Luke 17:37 until you fully understand exactly what Jesus was saying in context with His appearing to rapture His Church.




When you fully understand why "the eagles are gathered together" you will be in a select group of less than one percent of the professing Christians in the world !





According to Your Infallible Word, come Lord Jesus !




Bruce Warner, Scripturalist




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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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