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The "4" signs on 7/22 & corrected Tu B'Av!!!

Review of Tu B'Av:

Tu B'Av
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tu B'Av (Hebrew: ט"ו באב, the fifteenth of the month Av) is a minor
Jewish holiday. In modern-day Israel, it is celebrated as a holiday
of love (Hebrew: חג האהבה‎, Hag HaAhava), similar to Valentine's Day.
It has been said to be a "great day for weddings".

According to the Talmud, Tu B'Av was a joyous holiday in the days
of the Temple in Jerusalem, marking the beginning of the grape
harvest. Yom Kippur marked the end of the grape harvest.

Tu B'Av marks an informal "high" to counter the "low" of the The
Three Weeks
leading up to Tisha B'Av.


But corporate "Israel" WILL NOT BE REJOICING at the rapture of
the Christians!!!! JUST THE OPPOSITE!!!!!!!!!! Israel will REALLY
face desperate times after the rapture when her best friends are
SWEPT UP!!!

...Isaiah 26
...17 As a woman with child and about to give birth
...writhes and cries out in her pain,
...so were we in your presence, O LORD.
...18 We were with child, we writhed in pain,
...but we gave birth to wind.
NOTE: Israel gave birth to “wind” because she did NOT come
to accept Jesus as her Messiah)
...We have not brought salvation to the earth;
...we have not given birth to people of the world.
...19 BUT YOUR DEAD WILL LIVE; THEIR BODIES WILL RISE.
...YOU WHO DWELL IN THE DUST, WAKE UP AND SHOUT FOR JOY.
...YOUR DEW IS LIKE THE DEW OF THE MORNING;
...THE EARTH WILL GIVE BIRTH TO HER DEAD.

In the Revelation 12 account, the "child" represents those who
"came through" (as in a "birth") the writings of the Patriarchs
of Israel (the Bible) and "DID BELIEVE" on Jesus ----- UNLIKE
CORPORATE "ISRAEL" ("Virgo")] are SNATCHED AWAY!!!

...Revelation 12 (NIV1984)
...5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule
...all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was
...snatched up [THE RAPTURE] to God and to his throne.

The "child" is SNATCHED AWAY, thus making Israel's life on
Earth MUCH MORE DIFFICULT because she has JUST LOST
HER BEST FRIEND - the raptured Christians!!!

Micah 7 (NIV1984)
Israel’s Misery
1 What misery is mine!
I am like one who gathers summer fruit
at the gleaning of the vineyard
;
there is no cluster of grapes to eat,
none of the early figs that I crave.
2 The godly have been swept from the land;
not one upright man remains.
All men lie in wait to shed blood
;
each hunts his brother with a net.
3 Both hands are skilled in doing evil;
the ruler demands gifts,
the judge accepts bribes,
the powerful dictate what they desire—
they all conspire together
.

So, we KNOW that God gives signs from the Heavens!!!

Psalm 19 (NIV)
1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
2 Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they reveal knowledge.
3 They have no speech, they use no words;
no sound is heard from them.
4 Yet their voice goes out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.
In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun.
5 It is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
like a champion rejoicing to run his course.

Tu B'Av was supposed to be on June 21-22 but the the "correct"
date should be June 24-25.

From:
#599 - New Moon Report - July 2013 - Fifth Biblical Month
July 10th at sunset in Israel ushers in the new moon of the
fifth Biblical month!

The new moon was sighted by Yoel Halevi. Also Arie Levi
sighted it at 19:44 hrs Jerusalem time, July 10, by the side
of the wall of Yerushalaym.


So, it seems the CORRECT date of Tu B'Av would be about
July 24-25th and NOT the pre-set date of Tu B'Av from:

Tu B'Av from wikipedia

Dancing girls on Tu B'Av
Jewish Date: 15th day of Av
2013 date
Sunset, July 21 - Nightfall, July 22

But, interestingly, there were "4" signs given on 7/22:

A. 19 years to the EXACT DAY of the LAST 2 IMPACTS OF SL-9
ONTO THE SURFACE OF THE "KING" PLANET, JUPITER
B. The SAME DAY as the "birth" of a "future" king of England
C. Prophecy in the Stars!
July 22nd Star of David Alignment &
Revelation 12 September 22nd 2017!

D. From:
This Week's Sky at a Glance
Some night sky sights for July 19 – 27
by Alan M. MacRobert



NOW, what we are looking at is "19 YEARS, 5 DAYS" from the END
of the SL-9 impacts fitting the Psalm 19:5 at around the "end of July"
or about July 27th (July 22+5 = July 27)!!!

FROM: July 22, 1994 - FINAL IMPACTS OF SL-9
PLUS 19 YEARS, 5 DAYS
TO: July 27, 2013
Or 19 years, 5 days

Psalm 19:5
Which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
And rejoices like a strong man to run its race.

From:
The July (7/8) "BRIDE" quake in the Red Sea (we're STILL in July)!!!

Paula Marie (3:05-3:50), - in a vision here which I posted in
this post - was shown a calendar for the "end" of July and the
dates had been blacked out!!!!!!!!!!!!

"And I had a word from the Lord and He gave me a date that
the 'end' of July something would happen. And, He showed
me a vision of a calendar and I looked at it. I saw the word
'July' was all 'grayed out' and the rest of the dates in July
were all blackened out! And that meant that something in
July would happen that would change the course of events.
And then things would be changed from then on out and
everything would just continue to get worse from then on
out! It means everything is going to change - it's not going
to be the same any more in July! There's going to be events
taking place that are going to change everything."


From:
10/16/12 ( "perfect" Rev. 12 sign) + 284 ("perfect" birth cycle) days = 7/27!!!

Hmmm........

Jimmy Lishman said, "I heard and published - 27, 27 it will be 27"!!

COME, LORD JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Re: The "4" signs on 7/22 & corrected Tu B'Av!!!


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Re: Posting by Calvin...


I had to comment on this masterpiece of errors. I wasn't going to, but I would hate to have it upon my conscience that ANYONE who didn't know better would believe any of this....let alone make any sense out of it.

I've been through all this before in previous posts, and you might look at some of my postings from the last couple of months to get a bigger picture of what I stand for....THE TRUTH OF THE BIBLE!

Therefore, I must comment.....

For a start..."ISRAEL" IS NOT THE "JEWS". God defines "Israel" in many places, including Romans 2:28-29:

"For he is NOT A JEW, which is one outwardly;(in the natural flesh, believer in Judaism, circumcised...you know where, and calls himself a "Jew") neither is that circumcision (the necessary one to be called a "Jew" spiritually by God)OUTWARD IN THE FLESH: (vs.29) But HE IS A JEW, which is one INWARDLY; and circumcision is that OF THE HEART; whose praise is not of men, BUT OF GOD."

The Jews who "call themselves Jews"...see Rev. 2:9 and 3:9...are NOT the "Israel of God" (see Gal. 6:15-16). Those called "ISRAEL" in the bible are BELIEVERS AND FOLLOWERS OF GOD (OT) AND JESUS CHRIST (NT).

The Jews today, and the Nation of Israel today, are ANTICHRIST....I John 2:22-23. God has clearly defined these people. And God has clearly defined "Israel" as BELIEVERS in both testaments. The Jews are UNBELIEVERS....so they are not seen, by God (or Christians who believe the Bible) as belonging to the "corporate group" called "ISRAEL" at all!!

The major group of Christians believing the Jews today are "God's chosen people" are dispensationalists. And they are wrong. In fact, EVERY "church" and EVERY denomination is WRONG. We are all "one body" in Jesus Christ and should not be separated into ANY DIVISIONS.

If you "go to church"...you are WRONG. It is un-biblical. Gathering together for believers (assembly, fellowship) should only include BELIEVERS, and in small groups who pray and discuss the Bible together. Churches with believers mixed with unbelievers who are taught by a seminary-educated "Pastor" is totally unbiblical....see I John 2:27 and II Corinthians 6:14 about being "unequally yoked with unbelievers" and being ONLY taught by the Holy Spirit of God. THAT'S BIBLE TRUTH!

And because people go to church to learn all this nonsense, they have joined "Mystery, Babylon" which we are instructed of God to "Come out of her, My people!"...Rev. 18:4.

So, maybe these links can teach you a little of the truth....or, hopefully, a lot of what you won't learn in church....or by other Christians who also don't know any better.


Who "Israel" really is:

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/israel2.htm


The word "Jew" was never even in the Bible to begin with. The original "Jew" was APOSTATE from "Israel". But, this link explains more:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jew.htm

And the MAIN "HOLY BOOK" of the Jews (Judaism...a religion apostate from Christianity) is the TALMUD. It is a vile writing which abhors Jesus Christ, and it's not worth any of your attentions except to condemn it.


About the Talmud:

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html


Well, Calvin, I hope I haven't offended you too badly. I abhor lies and distortion of Bible truth. You will have to open the links to see what's in them. Usually I provide a little piece of what is within the link, but too often people just read that piece and ignore what's in the link....and they learn nothing.

"And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free"...John 8:32

Stop worshiping (looking up to) the Jews...they aren't the ones through whom our salvation comes. Worship God! Salvation is out of "Judea", and that points to our Lord Jesus Christ...John 4:22. That word "Jews" was an incorrect translation. The line of JUDAH produced Jesus Christ, and the Jews had nothing to do with it.

Arlene

Re: The "4" signs on 7/22 & corrected Tu B'Av!!!

Arlene:

A LOT of people think themselves "smart" to criticize Israel and
the Jews but we NEED to be thankful for them for they are our
Patriarchs and we received the word of God through them.

Right now, they ("corporate" Israel) have NOT received Jesus
but there is coming a time when they WILL LOOK ON HIM WHOM
THEY PIERCED!!!!!

SADLY, the world will learn this the hard way.

Isaiah 44 (NKJV)
21 “Remember these, O Jacob,
And Israel, for you are My servant;
I have formed you, you are My servant;
O Israel, you will not be forgotten by Me!
22 I have blotted out, like a thick cloud, your transgressions,
And like a cloud, your sins.
Return to Me, for I have redeemed you.”

Zechariah 12 (NKJV)
8 In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem;
the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David,
and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the
Lord before them. 9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy
all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Mourning for the Pierced One

10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants
of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will
look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as
one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves
for a firstborn.


Zechariah 14 (NKJV)
15 Such also shall be the plague
On the horse and the mule,
On the camel and the donkey,
And on all the cattle that will be in those camps.
So shall this plague be.

The Nations Worship the King

16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the
nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to
year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the
Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the
families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship
the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain.


Zechariah 2 (NKJV)

Vision of the Measuring Line

1 Then I raised my eyes and looked, and behold, a man with a
measuring line in his hand. 2 So I said, “Where are you going?”

And he said to me, “To measure Jerusalem, to see what is its
width and what is its length.”

3 And there was the angel who talked with me, going out; and
another angel was coming out to meet him, 4 who said to him,
“Run, speak to this young man, saying: ‘Jerusalem shall be
inhabited as towns without walls, because of the multitude of
men and livestock in it. 5 For I,’ says the Lord, ‘will be a wall
of fire all around her, and I will be the glory in her midst.’”

Future Joy of Zion and Many Nations

6 “Up, up! Flee from the land of the north,” says the Lord; “for
I have spread you abroad like the four winds of heaven,” says
the Lord. 7 “Up, Zion! Escape, you who dwell with the daughter
of Babylon.”

8 For thus says the Lord of hosts: “He sent Me after glory, to
the nations which plunder you; for he who touches you touches
the apple of His eye. 9 For surely I will shake My hand against
them, and they shall become spoil for their servants. Then you
will know that the Lord of hosts has sent Me.

10 “Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion! For behold, I am coming
and I will dwell in your midst,” says the Lord.
11 “Many nations
shall be joined to the Lord in that day, and they shall become My
people. And I will dwell in your midst. Then you will know that the
Lord of hosts has sent Me to you. 12 And the Lord will take
possession of Judah as His inheritance in the Holy Land, and
will again choose Jerusalem. 13 Be silent, all flesh, before the
Lord, for He is aroused from His holy habitation!”

Re: The "4" signs on 7/22 & corrected Tu B'Av!!!

Re: Calvin's response....


Your response totally astonishes me!! You can't honestly believe that the "Jews" are our PATRIARCHS?? There is NOT ONE JEW amongst those who penned the words of the OT. The "Jews" DID NOT GIVE US THE BIBLE.....GOD DID!!

Every word in the Bible is given to us by GOD through whom He chose to write them under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit:

II Timothy 3:16..."ALL SCRIPTURE is given by INSPIRATION OF GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:..."

The above mentions NOTHING about the Jews. The WORD "JEW" was not even in the Bible until the 1800s. That FACT is in one of the links I provided for you. But, you did not read it!

There is no way possible that you could have opened those links that I gave to you to read and understand. If you had, you would have never made statements of the kind that you did.

Steven has made it VERY CLEAR on this website that it is necessary to provide SCRIPTURE PROOF of the things you say, if things pertain to what the Bible says. Conjecture, without proof, is unacceptable! I follow that rule, and everyone else is expected to do so as well.

Also, another VERY CLEAR rule on this website is that NO ARGUMENT should be made until ALL THE MATERIAL PROVIDED has been read FIRST, or watched, if a video is involved. You did not do your DUE DILIGENCE before you made this response to me. That causes dissension, and this is to be avoided here if at all possible. Steven makes the rules, and it is up to us to abide by them in order to post and be effective.

I will give you scriptures to back up my statements, however. The Jews are no more special to God than any unbelievers. And God loves all of us...IN SPITE of what we believe, for some of us. Jesus died for EVERYONE..no exceptions (and no favorites)....see John 3:16.

"...Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: (vs.35) But in EVERY NATION he that feareth Him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with Him."...Acts 10:34

"For there is no respect of persons with God." (and this includes Jews as well)...Romans 2:11

"...neither is there respect of persons with Him."...Eph.6:9

"There is neither JEW nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS."...Gal.3:28

"Where there is neither Greek, nor JEW, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but CHRIST IS ALL, AND IN ALL."....Col.3:11

Is anybody left out in the above verses?? Those who are "in Christ" are ONE BODY. If the Jews become believers, they are "in Christ" as well. If they do not (as they are NOT today), then they are no more "respected" or special in God's eyes as anyone else. It couldn't be clearer or plainer than how God has already explained it. Why don't you BELIEVE what God says?

And Jesus even addressed having "Pastors" or "Rabbis" when he was telling the Pharisees (Mt.22:41) what tremendous MISTAKES they were making:

"But be NOT called Rabbi: for One is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. (Nobody is supposed to "lord it over" all the other brethren) (vs.9) And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."...Matthew 23:8-9

And the SAME THING goes for churches calling their leaders "Pastor" or "Reverend" or other "name titles" showing superiority of one man over another. God hates this "doctrine of the Nicolaitans"...see Rev.2:6.

"For by ONE SPIRIT are we ALL baptized into ONE BODY, whether we be JEWS OR GENTILES, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into ONE SPIRIT."...I Corinthians 12:13

AND MY FAVORITE:

"And whatever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving THANKS TO GOD and the FATHER by Him."...Col.3:17

There is NOTHING in Scripture which tells us to be thankful to the "Jews" for anything. They are no better than anyone else...and sometimes they are worse. They HATE Jesus Christ, and they are NOT part of the "body of Christ" unless they REPENT and become believers.

AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY....THE "JEWS" DID NOT WRITE THE BIBLE:


http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/word.htm


Piece of the article link:


This is confirmed by Jesus. In Matthew 15:24 He said, "I am not sent but unto the sheep of the house of Israel." In John chapter 10 Jesus tells the Jews, "I am the good Shepherd and know My sheep and am known of Mine. But ye believe not because ye are not of My sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear My voice and I know them and they follow Me." From the Savior's own lips we have the proof that the Jews are not of the tribes of Israel. Note carefully that He does not say that their unbelief keeps them from being of His sheep. He says the exact opposite, that the reason why they do not believe is that they are not of His sheep, the house of Israel. Christianity and Judaism are completely and irreconcilably inconsistent. Whichever one is right, the other must be wrong for they mutually repudiate each other. A great part of Jesus' reported Words are His denunciation of the Jews for their religion, which He tells them is not that of the Old Testament. In John 5:46 Jesus told them, "Had ye believed in Moses, ye would have believed Me: for he wrote of Me." In Luke 16:31 Jesus said, "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded through one rose from the dead." He was right, He did rise from the dead, but to this day they are not persuaded.

It is therefore clear, we got neither our Bible nor our Christian religion, either in whole or in part from those who were Jews, either by religion or by race. We owe them no debt, for they gave us nothing.

*******************

In the future, please THOROUGHLY go through the given material before posting comment in criticism. Steven is wonderful in allowing ALL doctrines posted, but we MUST respect his wishes in understanding opposing points of view BEFORE commenting in the contrary.

Arlene

Re: The "4" signs on 7/22 & corrected Tu B'Av!!!

Arlene:

Your "problem" is NOT with me but with the "Jews"!

Of course God gave the Bible for men (our Jewish Patriarchs) to
write down. It came "from" God.

Your "religion" is one of cleverness but not generated by the
Holy Spirit. It "sounds" good to you and some others but it is
really just "pride of life" because you have NOT allowed the
Lord to speak to you about this "issue".

There are MANY like this.

Sad.

Calvin

Re: The "4" signs on 7/22 & corrected Tu B'Av!!!


Hi Calvin,

Just stepping in for a minute....

Did you read the articles that Arlene posted?

Are you able to use scripture to back up your position?


If you did not read the articles.......please do.


All positions are allowed to be discussed but I do ask that if you or anyone is going to make comment on a thread that they read the article or watch the videos entirely to avoid arguments or discussions without understanding the other persons points.


Below is the reminder I post on almost all of my threads to remind people to read or view the articles that they post on before making a comment.

Thanks for understanding and I pray you will review the articles, links or videos before making comments.

God Bless

Steven

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Re: The "4" signs on 7/22 & corrected Tu B'Av!!!





RE: Calvin....

A personal attack on me will serve no purpose in anything except causing dissension. I told you this before. Please keep your comments to the material presented.

I have no problem with the Jews. I have no problem with Islam. I have no problem with the Buddhists....nor do I have a problem with any other religious group in this world.

But I have a HUGE PROBLEM with those who do not read the material given to them BEFORE they make inane comments.

Read the material!! You may learn some fascinating things you never knew before. I know this because I have been where you are now...but finally I saw the truth through what the Bible actually says instead of listening to church leaders and authors of "Christian" prophecy books.

Please....no more comments until you have READ the links I posted. This is Steven's FIRST rule on posting. I made errors in judgement, myself, until I understood what he was trying to accomplish on this site. And we are NOT to attack the individual...only the doctrine.....and SHOW PROOF of what is being presented via Scripture verses.

Arlene

Re: The "4" signs on 7/22 & corrected Tu B'Av!!!

Sorry, Arlene and Steven!

NOT trying to cause dissension! My son and I also
disagree (he's a Presbyterian elder) but we don't
allow ourselves to argue and I won't here either.

Here's the scriptures below that I always look at.

GOD BLESS!!!!!!!!!!!

Calvin

Romans 9 (NKJV)
Israel’s Rejection of Christ
Israel’s Rejection and God’s Purpose
Israel’s Rejection and God’s Justice
Present Condition of Israel


Romans 10 (NKJV)
Israel Needs the Gospel
Israel Rejects the Gospel


Romans 11:1-10
Israel’s Rejection Not Total


Romans 11:11-36
Israel’s Rejection Not Final

Re: The "4" signs on 7/22 & corrected Tu B'Av!!!



Hi Calvin,

Thank you for the apology.

I pray you will look at the articles and links that Arlene posted and I pray Arlene will view your scriptural references.

I also pray everyone will glean from each other and that the body of Christ will be strengthened by reading the articles, videos and scriptural references by all parties.

Let us all reason together and Glorify Jesus with honest discussion and diligence to learn the truth by studying to show ourselves approved like the bereans did.

God Bless

Steven


Acts 17:10-12

Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. When they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so. 12 Therefore many of them believed, and also not a few of the Greeks, prominent women as well as men. NKJV


Re: The "4" signs on 7/22 & corrected Tu B'Av!!!


Re: Calvin....

I've read those scriptures as well. And your point is...???

EVERY denomination, INCLUDING Presbyterian is APOSTATE from the ONE "body of Christ". So being an "elder" is not significant in knowing any more than anyone else....especially over those who read and study their Bibles DAILY as the Bereans did....Acts 17:11.

And I still see no sign of your having read the material I posted. You may learn a lot from them that you don't see today because you have been following a denomination, and not GOD.

You could also read the one I posted on Revelation 17 & 18 identifying the "Harlot"....which is ALL the present worldy church systems of today...Roman Catholics, Protestants, and ANY RELIGIONS which are outside of the ONE BODY OF CHRIST. If you attend ANY church, you are apostate. If not, show me scripture and verse which tells any of us to "go to church". Don't bother with Hebrews 10:25 because that does not say "go to church and mingle with unbelievers".

Arlene