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Hi Steven.....I had to comment on your April 8 posting that I had to wait until today to enjoy. The interview of the author, Joe Ortiz, by Bruce Collins was absolutely wonderful. I actually listened to that interview twice. His manner of speaking and explaining things was so down-to-earth and easy to understand. The one thing that struck me most was when he said, "Everything we need to know is already there". He was speaking of knowing what the bible says...and not just listening to what other people say it says. Everything is there.
I loved what he said in explanation of Zionism, and who the true children of God really are. Most Christians believe they are the Jews...but what does the bible say? Who was the "first" Jew? I can't find one! Abraham was a Chaldean, and he was never called a "Jew". Nor was Moses a Jew....he was a Hebrew. The first Jew must have had "Jewish" DNA as being a different "race".....but even if you are from the Tribe of Judah, you are not called a Jew.....you are called a Judean.
So, the Jews must either be a person from the Jewish culture, or they must be converts to the religion of Judaism. Neither of these, who call themselves "Jews" are followers of the Son of God, Jesus Christ. In fact, most Jews despise our Lord Jesus Christ. There is much information on this in one of the books they follow...the Talmud. These cannot be "chosen" people. So, what does the bible say? The first man known by "Israel" was Jacob, and the reason his name was changed is because he turned from being a deceiver (Jacob) to a follower of God (Israel). And, in the same way, in the NT, followers of God are called "Israel" and are referred to as "spiritual Jews" because of their circumcision of the heart. Anyone who is not a believer in our Lord Jesus Christ, cannot possibly be "chosen" of God. Joe Ortiz tells more about the Jews and the land of Israel today in his audio message. It is well worth the listen.
Today, I checked out your Rapture Bible Prophecy Forum website. Such a wonderful smorgasbord of information there!!! There was everything from Mike Hoggard, the Groxt, things on Nibiru, John Moore, up-to-date news items....and wonderful articles that touched my spirit.
Sorry, Steven...I tend to go on and on about things I really have a passion for. But, again, thanks for all the wonderful information.....I'll be visiting there often!
Arlene
Am I hearing correctly? Ortiz believes there's no such things as Jews? The re-birth of Israel in 1948 is not significant? Israel is not the land promised to the Jews since there are "no Jews"??? Cassie MacDonald invented the rapture???
More confusion in the body of Christ concerning the elect.
Hi Rudylee,
take a deep breath......
Joe Ortiz is not the final authority. I also know other men of God who have as much or more scholarship who would strongly disagree with his teachings.
I also heard the Rick Wiles program where John Baptist from "Tribulation Now" shredded Joe's reasoning concerning the rapture with scripture. Take a listen.
God is not the author of confusion. I worry for baby christians who see all of the confusion and don't know what to believe and thus become discouraged.
Rudylee,
THE BIBLE IS OUR FINAL AUTHORITY...
THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL LEAD US TO ALL TRUTH.
Now having said that......John the Baptist on HIS show said on April 10 2013
"the pre wrath rapture is the most biblically indentical "
so anyways thanks for your comments but do not get defensive if I ask you to listen to Joe Ortiz.......
I did listen to John the Baptist and right after the show on Rick Wiles
John the Baptist on his own show said
"the pre wrath rapture is the most biblically indentical "
look it up for yourself........
we are not to attack ( or misrepresent ; misquote ) our brothers in Christ if they disagree with our rapture position either......
That is why I suggested listening to the audio files.
Hey Steven....please go to 5 doves....a couple of days back....and listen to the interview by Bruce Collins with Joe Ortiz and let me know if you agree with any of Joe's assumptions concerning the Jews and modern day Israel.
Hi Rudylee
Let me ask you again I asked you in a previous post....
Was Abraham a jew?
What does the bible say?
Rudylee did you see my comment in this thread earlier?
here I will condense it for you...please listen to it.
By: Wayne Blank
•Abraham was Eber's descendant. Abraham was a Shemite and a Hebrew, but not an Israelite or a Jew because neither existed yet.
•Isaac was Abraham's son. Isaac was a Shemite and a Hebrew, but not an Israelite or a Jew because neither existed yet.
•Jacob, who God renamed Israel, was Isaac's son. Jacob was a Shemite and a Hebrew, but not a Jew because Jews originated with his son Judah. The first Israelites were the children of Jacob.
•Judah was one of Jacob's twelve sons (see Children of Jacob and The Tribes Of Israel). Judah was a Shemite, a Hebrew, and an Israelite. The first Jews were the children of Judah. The descendants of the other eleven of Jacob's sons were not Jews, but were themselves named accordingly e.g. from Levi came the Levites, from Benjamin came the Benjamites and so on.
Hi Rudylee,
Thank you!
Abraham was not a jew...:)
God Bless
Steven
Steven….. do you believe with these points made by Joe Ortiz in his interview with Bruce Collins
Joe believes that the promise God made to Abraham about….. I will bless those that bless you and curse those who curse you…. does not apply to the Jews but rather to Abraham and the faith believing remnant, since Abraham was the father of faith.
There is nothing in the Bible about the Jews coming back into the land (Israel) they lost especially when the land was destroyed in 70 A.D…..but the liar satan tells them they have the right…they have the right….
The gathering of all the elect from the four corners of heaven refers to Jesus gathering the believers. (Never mind that the elect refers to Israel)
Joe believes that a war with Iran could possibly destroy Israel
The people landing at Plymouth Rock thought they were the new Israel and America was the new promise land and they thus had the right to conquer all the heathens…… native Americans.
The puritans were Calvinists and John Calvin advocated that “once saved always saved” and that was a twist of the scripture.
In the 1800s, C. I. Scofield revised the original King James Bible and he twisted it around to intimate that certain phrases indicate that whenever Israel was mentioned it referred to the modern day Jews.
John Darby helped Scofield and he was the one who heard about Margaret MacDonald’s who had this vision about the pre tribulation rapture……
70,000,000 Christian Zionists, like John Hagee, have had their minds “messed with” who want Iran to be bombed.
Iran could probably wipe Israel off the map.
The majority of God’s people listen to a lot of this non sense and don’t do any research for themselves……..(I guess he means believing that Israel is Jewish, believing in the pre-trib rapture, etc.)
C. I. Scofield re-wrote the Bible….
Lord Balfour was a friend of biblical revisionists Westcort and Hort and Balfour signed a declaration supporting the creation of the Jewish state and all these conspirators hung around together.
The pre-tribulation rapture is a distortion of the gospel…..and the pre-trib rapture was used by the children of the devil as one of the biggest tools to destroy Christianity and the faith and hope and belief that the people have.
And Steven.....what race were the 6,000,000 people exterminated in Hitler's ovens in WWII?
Hi Rudylee,
ummm those are a lot of questions.
I believe the BIBLE.
I believe JESUS is God.
I believe that the HOLY SPIRIT can lead us to all truth.
I believe JESUS is the ONLY way to heaven.
I believe there WILL be a rapture.
Anything else is just opinion and does not NEGATE the bible.
So for me to answer all your questions with limited time on my end would do US both an injustice.
I pray my "I believe statements are enough for you"
I will in the future request ANYONE commenting on my posts to read or listen to the post 100% before commenting because I seem to have to explain and defend others comments because people are too quick to comment without viewing the posts THOROUGHLY.....before asking what I think etc....
I have over 480 consistent viewers and posters on my facebook, this site and I also have a homeless ministry and am a fundraiser so my time is very limited to repeatedly explain what the videos, articles etc that are posted say.........people need to watch or read each one thoroughly before sharing their comments or points of view before misquoting or misunderstanding each and every one of the posts on this site or my facebook.......I am willing to answer questions but it takes TWO people to be informed before answering all the questions......
A question have you ever watched the WHOLE 3 videos on the pre wrath rapture of the church?
Have you watch the video in it's entirety of "The Rapture Puzzle Solved Matthew 24?"
They have been on this site for a few years.
I have repeatedly bumped them to the top over and over.....
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
God Bless
Steven
Kinda my point Steven.....you say to listen to the program....well, the question I posed to you was about comments taken from the program in question ....so what's your take....do you or do you not agree with Joe? That's all I am asking.
Hi Rudylee,
Do you agree with anyone 100%?
I think that answers your question.
Just incase though: My parents have been married for OVER 57 years!...Do they agree 100%?...the easy answer no...they do not.
One more point....
Rudylee you believe in a pre tribulation ( seven year ) rapture correct?
I don't so we don't agree yet we are still Christians right?
I'm sure if we met we would also not agree on the best flavor ice cream or where in the world is the best place to spend a vacation.
God Bless
Steven
Steven....again thank you for your patience and your reply. And thank you for developing and maintaining this forum. I will respect you and your forum though we do not always see eye to eye. Your pre-wrath position vs my pre- trib position does not bother me like the comments made by Joe Ortiz about the Jews, Israel, the rapture, etc. I believe he is way off base, but if he is saved by the blood of Jesus, then we are brothers, and many times even brothers do not always agree. And certainly not husbands and wives......My personal belief is that all of the bride of Christ will be raptured at some point.....pre trib in my opinion, pre wrath in yours, mid trib in the opinion of others.....regardless of our view on the matter and then we will all celebrate. Thanks Steven and keep up the good work.
Hi Arlene,
I hope you don't mind me grabbing your information and post and placing it here.
I just finished reading a book by Robert Gundry ( The Church and the Tribulation ) and he said the same thing about
C. I. Scolfield. ( occultist and lotus club )
Came up with the pre tribulation notes in his version of the bible...
So, I thought I would post your comments here as well.
( I might post them on a few other threads on this site too! ( they seem to apply )
Thanks
God Bless
Steven
Note: The more I am reading and searching the more I'm finding out about the deception of the pre tribulation theory. ( based on reading and comparing to what the bible really says: my personal opinion and understanding at this time )
C. I Scolfield bible is responsible for a lot of deception and misunderstanding of the bible. ( According to many bible scholars I'm currently finding at this time )
Checkout what the anti necean fathers wrote.
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Why are so many of us being so very foolish? And not only foolish, but very childish as well. We are supposed to be MATURE, or being in the process of maturing to what God wants us to be. Just recently a "Christian" wrote that something was offensive to him/her and, because of this, they would never go to that site again.
This is what I would expect to hear in a playground, but not with people who say they are "mature" followers of Jesus Christ.
What does scripture say about this? I Cor.14:20-21..."Brethren, be not CHILDREN in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be MEN. (vs.21) In the law it is written, With men of other tongues (languages from all over the world)and other lips(from other people) will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not HEAR me, saith the Lord."
Jeremiah 5:21 comes to mind. "Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:"
Jeremiah 5:31.."The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end therof?
As MEN (and I include both genders in this term) we are ALL less than perfectly correct, and we never will be until we go through the WHOLE process of JUSTIFICATION (initial salvation), SANCTIFICATION (gradual growth to Christian maturity), and GLORIFICATION (when we finally go from this world to the Kingdom of God). Until then, we are ALL wrong in one way or another.
The only absolute truth comes to us through the Bible through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is the Word (John 1:1), and He, through our Bibles, gives us the truth. Nothing, or nobody, outside of those things can be relied upon for absolute, 100% truth......no denominations, no Pastors, no parents, no friends, etc. What can't be proven by the Bible, is SPECULATION.
What does anyone know about the actual lives of those who tell us what the Bible is supposed to say? We know only what we are told by them, or we know very little at all. With whom do we trust our eternal souls? There is NOBODY on this earth, including those who have died, who have EVER had absolute truth EXCEPT our Lord Jesus Christ.
I think my story is similar to any other Christian who has gone through life and come to Christianity. Why should anyone listen to me? I haven't a clue!! But, I've always liked passing on what I've learned to others...so maybe God has given me the spiritual "gift" of a teacher (I Cor.chapter 12). I don't know this for sure, but I love to study and write about it...or pass it on to others. If I don't, I feel incomplete inside myself.
For the last 70 years, I've been through almost anything a person can go through...pain, joy, suffering, death of loved ones, divorce, loss of children, loss of friends, rejection, elation, success in career, shame, loss of self respect, wealth, loneliness, etc. I've been through ALL of those things. There are only two things that I can think of which I have never suffered through....poverty or hunger. I've always been blessed with a roof over my head and food to eat. God has always been with me, even when I didn't realize or understand it.
As I contemplate my beliefs through life, I have sincerely followed many things other people have taught, and I have done a thorough study on all of them including Theosophy, Buddhism, New Age, and almost all of the different church doctrines. But the doctrine I believed for most of my years as a Christian was "dispensationalism" under the tutelage of Dr. Peter Ruckman. I've read every thing that gentleman wrote...and believed every word, even as "rough and gruff" as he was....I loved him and his way of thinking.
So, today, when I refute "dispensationalism", and any and all of the other church denominational beliefs, which only cause divisiveness amongst the "one body of Christ", I know what I'm talking about. I have learned this by REALLY studying the Bible by myself and UNDERSTANDING what the Holy Spirit was teaching to me. I have FINALLY realized that the "Jews" were not God's "chosen people" because ISRAEL is, and always has been!! Israel is the name God gave to all believers/followers of God, and not just to a specific race of people....all through the Bible.
John 3:16-18..."For God so loved the WORLD, that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (vs17) For God sent not his Son into the WORLD to condemn the world; but that the WORLD though Him might he saved."
But, it's verse 18 that brings out a major truth..."He that believeth on Him is not condemned (Israel/believers): but he that BELIEVETH NOT (people called "Jews" follow Judaism and hate Jesus Christ)is CONDEMNED already, because he hath NOT believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
The "bottom line" of all this is that NONE of us have the total truth. There are PIECES of the truth coming from multiple sources, and we just have to have the DISCERNMENT to pick out the ones which have a true, biblical basis....and THROW OUT THE REST!
By refusing to listen to ANYONE who does not follow the same doctrine that you do is just the same as "throwing the baby out with the bath water". That's pure ignorance (IGNOREance]!! NOBODY, except Jesus Christ, has ever had perfect knowledge of God and His purposes.
Dr.Peter Ruckman taught me valuable lessons, as did Chuck Missler, I.D.E.Ice, Charles Stanley, Rob Skiba, Steve Quayle, Stan Deyo, Billy Graham, J.R.Church and Gary Stearman, David Pack, M.J.Agee, J. Preston Eby, and Dr. Lorraine Day...plus hundreds of others from whom I have heard or read literature. Do I believe the TOTAL doctrines of ANY OF THEM? Absolutely not! But I have sifted through ALL the information and retained what I felt was the truth in the Bible.
Shouldn't we all do everything we can to learn as much as possible about the truth WITHOUT listening to just ONE MAN? God has put many of His "pieces" in different places, and through different people. The "one body" is made up of many people...and it's up to us to sift out the truth, and not just from ONE denomination or ONE person.
Arlene
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This is without a doubt the very best discussion I have ever seen, on this site or any other. Joe Ortiz is my hero!!! Everything he said on that radio show is the TRUTH!! He is truly a man of God!! He has confirmed all the research that I have been doing for the past several years!! Everything I have been saying in most of my posts are directly related to what he said! I wish I had found this site and this post a long time ago...what a confirmation of what the Holy Spirit has been showing me!!
Joe broke new ground and has inspired me to continue to work in that direction, and help bring some truth to such a corrupted and divided body of Christ. So many evil men with evil schemes have built up these false doctrines over the centuries...it is time that they are revealed and their doctrines thrown out of the Church!! The Church is in danger of becoming the Harlot of Babylon and not the Virgin Church.
It is time we believed what Christ plainly told us in the Holy Bible...the KJV, as most others have been tainted beyond recognition. Satan has been working overtime on this, and it looks like he has succeeded because so few people find out for themselves, and let the world become more important, and the traditions of men, become their focal point, and not our LIVING AND GLORIOUS SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.
SO THRILLED TO SEE SOMEONE FINALLY STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH!!
This discussion and thread should be up there with the most important posts for everyone to read, and to listen to and to think about. I whole heartedly BUMP IT, and probably will keep bumping it as long as I can!!
Thanks Steven for this one...it Rocks!!!
JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!!
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I took the time to read through all of this thread that covered the topics of:
1. Who is a Jew
2. Who is a Zionist
3. Joe Ortiz
4. And always, the Rapture.
Do you know that I once was very offended with the discussion of "The Jew" who he was and just how important he was in the whole scheme of Prophecy. Yes, I was blind to the term Jew so I did the same kind of arguing as others did regarding the Jews.
Arlene was one of the first to challenge me on that term of who is really a Jew. The videos of David J. Smith really opened my understand and most of all, it was Joe Ortiz and his book, "End Times Passover" that showed me how utterly stupid we Christians have been in our understanding of where that term ever began.
As Arlene explained Abraham was never called a Jew but a Hebrew. His son Isaac continued that terminology and only when his son Jacob had his 12 sons did things begin to change. Jacob wrestled with the Angel of the Lord all night, prevailed and had his name changed to Israel.
Then to make it simple, the 12 tribes that lived in the land given to them were called Israelites. After Solomon's reign and apostasy, God allowed that kingdom to be split. The Northern 10 tribes retained the name of Israel while the 2 Southern Tribe were called Judeans because they included the tribe of Judah, Benjamin and any Levi that attached themselves to them. Jacob's oldest son was Judah.
However, when Mr. Ortiz did his excellent job of showing that Jesus said He didn't come to the Jews but unto the Lost Tribes of Israel did that light bulb really begin to shine for me. Of course! Can't you see it now. If Jesus said He came not but unto the lost Tribes of Israel, who ventured through out the world, it was they who received the gospel and spread it down through the centuries. Yep! I know that will be hard for most churches to accept but it is Biblical fact.
And you know what, the Gentiles who benefited from receiving the Gospel are those that the Bible calls the Grafted In (The Wild Olive Branch) as opposed to the{ Natural Branch}, Israel itself. And you know what else it says in the Bible....they are both part of the Root, whom is Jesus Christ.
So, you see, dear Christians, you should not be offended when the truth is given to you because it all goes back to the beginning of who was the first Hebrew whose grandson Jacob became Israel, whom the Lord came to save and whom the Gentiles became a part of the Root Jesus Christ.
And that....I pray will settle once and for all why there is no separate Gentile ecclesia (as Joe likes to use the term).
We are all of the ecclesia, whether the natural branch or the wild branch.
The Jews, in reality whom Jesus had nothing to do with are the ones that brought the Babylonian teachings back with them, incorporating it into their traditions, which are some pretty nasty stuff. In fact, they are the Edomites, whom are related to the Hebrews but never accepted the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Among them are the Orthodox "Jews" who are the keepers of the texts and whom are given the Sceptre until Shiloh returns. They will have their blinders removed but meanwhile, I encourage natural Israel and Gentile to realize you are one fold with Christ Jesus as your shepherd and you are here until He sends His angels to gather His Elect.
Now, this is a whole lot more than I intended to say but I did need to thank the various people who helped me come to the real truth of who is a "Jew" ad who is not.
First, thank you Arlene.
Second, thank you Steven for posting David J. Smith and for introducing me to Joe Ortiz.
Thirdly, Joe Ortiz, I can't tell you enough of the many truths I have learned from your years of research. It was there all along but only people like you were able to put it into words that made it easy to understand.
Sincerely,
Gerlinda
PS I didn't know anything about Scolfield or his Bible but once I began to do a research on him and his influence by association with the Jesuit and other Jesuit led men, I quickly learned where all the garbage came from that has infiltrated into the churches of today. I pray that men who truly want the truth will do their own research on this unqualified author of a Bible.
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After reading the below message, I had to add it to this Scofield thread. If there is any doubt about this man and all those linked with him, it ought to be wiped out completely now AND that includes the pre-Tribulation Rapture that he and his Jesuit cohorts pushed on an ignorant public. Gerlinda
TRUTH REVEALED – 528 is the Frequency of SATURN/SATAN — NOT OF CHRISTIAN “LOVE”
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This is a very complex and multi-faceted topic. It involves exposing something called “Kabalah” (the CUBE) as well as “Enochian Magic” and the darkest sorcery ever performed on Planet Earth. It involves exposing demonology and inter-dimensional “conjuring” of entities called Nephilim or Jinn. In short, this topic exposes the very antithesis of PURE, UNDEFILED CHRISTIANITY – which simply is the “Edomite-Jew” Sorcerers and their Satanic rituals.
You see, in order for the Sons and Daughters of Cain (or Kane as they are sometimes known, either a female “Mother Goddess” or male “SORCERER”) to punch a hole in this earth’s electromagnetic plane, (aka the ‘veil’, aka ‘the Watchtowers’, aka the ‘enmity’ between the children of Eve and Satan) certain protocols of quantum physics must be followed. The BLACK CUBE (Kabalah) has instructed the literal Children of Satan the world over how the conjuring and controlling of powerful demonic entities (they falsely believe they can actually control these entities) can be accomplished; that by utilizing certain geometrical lines combined with very specific harmonic frequencies of sound – the protective “WATCHTOWERS” can be temporarily disabled, allowing very real and very powerful demonic “fallen angels” to communicate with the sorcerer or the “Mother Goddess” witch.
Stanley Kubrick’s final Hollywood movie, “Eyes Wide Shut” reveals this hidden truth. In the movie, Tom Cruise’s character meets an old friend – a MUSICIAN who tells him of a special gig – where he is paid very well simply to repetitively play a series of special HARMONIC CHORDS during a deeply occult ritual. He does this while blindfolded the entire time. This is the central theme of the entire movie – and a very real secret that possibly cost Kubrick (a Hollywood insider if there ever was one) his very life.
Keep in mind that this ritual is not of modern origin. It has been practiced by the Edomite Satanists since the days of Babylon. It is a multi-generational practice and it involves HUMAN SACRIFICE and the SATANIC “SAC-RA-MENT” the consumption of the SAC-rificed victim’s literal blood and flesh.
The British General, LORD Cornwallis, was an initiate who fully understood this dark and unholy secret. Likely to save face following his “surrender” to Washington, Cornwallis in a last-ditch effort to salvage his ego, divulged the hidden agenda of the Edomite bloodlines by declaring to Washington and his adjutants:
“A holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown.”
Cornwallis went on to explain to his shocked audience what would seem initially to be a self contradiction: “Your churches will be used to teach the Jew’s religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry.”
Lord Cornwallis’ declaration to Washington and his staff as a royal English occult insider was witnessed and recorded by a man named Jonathan Williams, who published a book exposing this event in the year 1781 titled Legions of Satan.
It is clear to this writer that Cornwallis’ predictions have all happened. Cornwallis, as a participant in the Illuminati rituals, knew well that his military defeat was only the beginning of the fulfillment of a global SATANIC PROPHECY that would be universal and that unrest would continue until mind control could be accomplished via a Satan’s EDOMITE religion.
Again, what Cornwallis predicted has come to pass. A brief study of American religious history reveals that the Luciferian, Edomite, “B’nai B’rith scourge of Masonry was systematically infused into every church in America with their veiled Phallic religion. Darby and the Plymouth Brethren brought a Jewish brand of “Christianity” to America. 33rd Degree Masons Rutherford and Russell started Jehovah Witnesses’ corrupt version of Judaism which is now worldwide with their message of the divine “kingdom” replacing the simple, pure Gospel of Christ. 33rd Degree Mason Joseph Smith started Mormon Judaism with its Edomite-Jewish teaching of millennialism. We see Mormon “apostle” Orson Hyde establishing “Zionism” by means of a highly occultic “dedicatory prayer circle” conducted at the very Mount of Olives where Christ walked – dedicating all of Lucifer’s “Holy Melchizedek Priesthood” power and authority to have the Babylonian Seed of Cain control the entire Middle East by means of their Satanic conjuring.
Moreover, at the turn of the twentieth century the “Scofield Bible” with a Babylonian-Jewish interpretation of the prophecies made its appearance. Following the wide use of this “helpful” aid the vast majority of the American “Christian” churches have silently become synagogues.
In the words of blogger Mantuan Bard: “We now have Baptist Jews, Methodist Jews, Church of God Jews, apostate Catholic Jews, and many Protestant Jews throughout America. We are aliens in our own country because of false religion and false teachings. All are praying for divine deliverance into that “Divine Government” which Cornwallis knew to be the British Empire. A false religion has been used to deceive us into allegiance to our enemies of Yorktown and Bunker Hill. No! Not a gun has been fired but the invisible and malignant process of conquering America with the Jew’s religion has gone on unabated. The Union Jack has been planted in our hearts with religious deception. All has happened “legally,” “constitutionally,” “freely” and completely within our most sacred trust — our churches.”
Indeed!
And finally – PLEASE DON’T BE DECEIVED BY LEONARD HOROWITZ AND HIS DECLARATIONS THAT 528 IS THE “GREEN-YELLOW” FREQUENCY OF LOVE. It is not. 528 Hz is the single most powerful “magic window frequency” employed by the biblical “Horites” (where the surname “Horowitz” originated) ancestry to perform black magic sorcery since the days of Cain. Follow the bloodline trail in Genesis and throughout the entire Pentateuch and this becomes readily apparent. This is the progeny of Esau (who is Edom) as recorded in Genesis Chapter 36. The Horites made a strategic alliance with the Demons of antiquity, according to the Holy Bible. They have used Enochian Magic since it was first revealed to Enoch, the SON OF CAIN (Genesis 4:17) in order to consult and direct the demonic entities into this “earth plane” to further their Luciferian agenda. THIS IS THE GRAND SECRET!! The “Horites” have been the scourge of planet earth for thousands of years. The agenda is quite simple, really. It is to capture the heart, mind and souls of all mankind in the Luciferian/Edomite blasphemies.
Don’t be deceived, Christians. Hor-witz of the Horites did not invent the wheel with his “book” on 528 Hz. This DNA-altering frequency (the key to “shape-shifting” and DNA alteration in “shamanism”) has been used by Mother Goddesses and Sorcerers of the Dark Arts since it was first revealed to Enoch the son of Cain. Here is just one example — a “Mother Goddess” taking the Edomite black-sorcery title “Shekinah” (who in the Kaballah invokes the ARCH-DEMON Azazel) shows how the 528 Hz had been historically invoked via the human vocal chords, or “Cantors” (the origins of the word in-cant-ation involves “cantor”). This was practiced in Egypt by the Pharaoh (Pharisee) Annubis – who could walk the earth as either a wolf/jackal, or a man. This is the origins of Native American “Skin-walkers” — called Innupits by the Utes and Piute Tribes (phonetically identical to Annubis oddly enough.)
“Language of Light”? Indeed, but please understand Lucifer is the “Son of the Morning” – the “Illuminated One”. This “528 Hz” is indeed the Language of Lucifer – the green-yellow Serpent-God of antiquity.
And what of “Ascension”? Remember Christ’s teaching that those who “Exalt Themselves” shall be “Abased” or brought down. It is only through HUMILITY and ACCEPTANCE OF CHRIST, can one ever hope to ascend from the pit of Hell. It is not a HUMANISTIC MEDITATION PROCESS – it is a free Gift of Grace from The Father, and Him alone!
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