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Renee M (23 March 2013)
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We have just witnessed a prophecy from 2500 years ago fulfilled today: Daniel 11:31 -
"His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. THEN they will set up the abomination that causes desolation."
"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand-- Matthew 24:15

"When you see 'the abomination that causes desolation' standing where it does not belong--let the reader understand--then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains." Mark 13:14

Amid high security, Obama toured the church with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. They stopped at the Grotto of the Nativity, which is said to stand where Jesus Christ was born. About 20 children waving U.S. and Palestinian flags greeted Obama in a courtyard outside the sanctuary.

Church of the Nativity, Bethlehem
The Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem is a major Christian holy site, as it marks the traditional place of Christ's birth. It is also one of the oldest surviving Christian churches.

The Grotto:




Obama visits the HOLY PLACE - Abomination that causes Desolation
Daniel 11:31 - His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. THEN they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.

I believe this prophecy has been fulfilled in TWO stages. The first part was fulfilled in April/May 2002, when Palestinian armed forces rose up and desecrated the temple "fortress" and abolished the daily sacrifice (daily communion took place in the Church of the Nativity until the Palestinians took over the building - so what was taking place "daily" was stopped on that day). Now, 11 years later, the abomination that causes desolation just took place. We know that this is the HOLY PLACE that Jesus was talking about, because it is a temple fortress that was desecrated and is referred to as the HOLY PLACE.

Here are some quotes from different articles on the internet:

In Christian tradition, the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem marks the place where Mary gave birth to Jesus. It is one of the oldest continuously operating churches in the world. First-time visitors are sometimes startled, even disappointed, by its fortress-like appearance which results from a 12th century AD Crusader reconstruction to make it more defensible. Defying its status as one of Christendom's holiest shrines, it seems dilapidated and battered, not at all beautiful. Still, for a building that has survived destruction by the Persians (614), a mad caliph (1009), earthquake (1834) fire (1869) and a Israeli army siege (2002) against suspected Palestinian militants who had taken refuge there, its dignity remains intact.

The forbidding, fortress-like church in the center of the modern city of Bethlehem, facing Manger Square, is one of the oldest churches in the world.

Entering the church that marks the site of Christ’s birthplace means having to stoop low. The only doorway in the fortress-like front wall is just 1.2 metres high.


Needless to say, the seizure of the 1,677-year-old church by 250 guerrillas affiliated with Islamist terror factions has hardly roused the armies of Christendom. Crusades, Christian-soldiering and all that went out in the last millennium.

Still, it's a shock to realize that this desecration of the ancient church built over what's believed to be the birthplace of Jesus Christ has brought down neither Christian wrath nor international pressure on the desecrators to lay down their arms and leave.


Palestinians celebrate Church of Nativity win, Israel notes they desecrated the site.
UNESCO Turns The Same Church Over To Palestinians That PLO Desecrated During Intifada
While Muslims have responded with deadly outrage to the now-retracted report by Newsweek of alleged Quran desecration by U.S. interrogators, there was little outcry three years ago when Islamic terrorists holed up in Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity reportedly used the Bible as toilet paper.

The Israeli Prime Minister’s Office said at the time, “The world needs to remember that the Church of the Nativity, which is sacred to Christianity, has been desecrated in the past by Palestinian terrorists.”


Struggling to see in the darkness, Sandy Shahin, 24, held her infant daughter, Lourd, and sobbed as she gazed at the mess. She wiped away tears and lifted her shirt to her nose to guard against the stench. "I can't believe they did all these things," she said. "I can't believe that the place I come to pray, which used to be clean and smell so good, now smells like this. It looks like a garbage dump."

A room in the Franciscan convent was destroyed by a fire that the priests said was sparked when the army tried to break into the building. All the windows are broken, and materials that were to be used to build an organ were destroyed.

An Armenian Orthodox priest complained about what Palestinians did with an altar situated at the front of the sanctuary, the surface now littered with plastic forks, empty cans of peas and beans and plates encrusted with food. "They turned it into a table," said the priest, who would not give his name. "They desecrated it."

For two weeks, they endured the presence of two decomposing bodies, which were eventually carried out in makeshift coffins.

They slept on dirty blankets lining the sides of the church sanctuary, ate dinner on the wooden altar of the Armenian Orthodox and turned the small foyer near the tiny Door of Humility into a urinal. The more than 100 Palestinians who walked out of the Church of the Nativity yesterday after a 39-day standoff with the Israeli army left behind piles of old shoes, grungy blankets drenched with sweat and food turned green with mold. A baptismal font had been used to wash clothes and pots.

The Church of the Nativity in the heart of Bethlehem marks one of Christianity's most sacred sites - the birthplace of Christ.

Situated on Manger Square 8 kilometres (5 miles) from Jerusalem, the church is built over a grotto where the Virgin Mary is said to have given birth to Jesus. The church's large fortress-like exterior stands as a testament to its turbulent history. For centuries, it was one of the most fought over holy places. It was seized and defended by a succession of armies - including Muslim and Crusader forces.

The Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem is a major Christian holy site, as it marks the traditional place of Christ's birth. It is also one of the oldest surviving Christian churches.

The holy site, known as the Grotto, that the Church of the Nativity sits atop, is today associated with the cave in which the birthplace of Jesus of Nazareth occurred.

No wonder Mr. Sharon told the Israeli Parliament he would "expect the international community to demand that they the terrorists lay down their arms and leave the holy place."

One of Christianity's most holy places, the site's focal point is the Grotto of the Nativity, a rectangular cavern beneath the church that has been considered the site of Christ's birth since at least the 2nd century. A 14-pointed silver star set into the marble floor marks the precise spot where Jesus is said to have been born.

"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand-- Matthew 24:15

"When you see 'the abomination that causes desolation' standing where it does not belong--let the reader understand--then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains." Mark 13:14


Renee...

The Abomination that causes desolation....that's the most riled up I've seen you. Well done!!! All of those posts were excellent but this one today...reworded a little from the last one, was a home run!

Do you sleep??? Blessings....Steve




Steve,

I am on very high alert for the next 12 days or so. I truly believe we are about to see some amazing events take place. When I found out that Obama was going to go to the Church of the Nativity, I just could not believe it. I had written to some friends in late January that we should watch for the abomination to be set up on March 21 or 22, 2013. These were the dates that the Lord had shown to me. At that time, Obama had not scheduled any trip to Israel and I did not know what this abomination would be exactly. But if someone would have asked me what my #1 scenario would be, I would have told them that Obama going to the Church of the Nativity would be a definite "final nail in the coffin", so to speak - that this absolutely would qualify for the abomination taking place. That would have been my absolute #1 choice for the fulfillment of the prophecies. I know most Christians are looking at the Temple Mount as the "holy place", but I've been looking at the Church of the Nativity for 11 years, ever since the event back in 2002. I even remembered the date when this happened - April 2, 2002, the 6th day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. It stuck in my head all these years. Because I knew that part of this prophecy was fulfilled at that time - "His armed forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress and will stop the daily sacrifice." That is exactly, to the letter, what took place. Armed forces rose us and desecrated the temple fortress and stopped the daily communion, that Catholics believe is the daily sacrifice. They urinated in the foyer and used the Bible for toilet paper. Nearly every article you can read about this event mentions the word DESECRATE, as well as the word FORTRESS. And many use the words HOLY PLACE. I KNEW THIS WAS THE HOLY PLACE that was being talked about.

But even when I heard about Obama going to Israel, I didn't say anything about the Church of the Nativity to ANYONE because Obama was just supposed to go to Jerusalem. Many people were talking about the possibility that he would go to the Temple Mount, but in my mind, I was looking for him to go to Bethlehem. The day I found out he was going to the Church of the Nativity, a new fire came into me like never before. Because I knew, without any doubt, that this was the final fulfillment of the abomination that is talked about in Daniel, Matthew, and Mark. I cannot wait to see pictures of him standing in the holy place. Truly, this is the abomination that will cause the desolation. As if him riding through Jerusalem on the 10th of Nisan as the peacemaker of the world isn't enough, now he is going to Bethlehem, to the holy place.

I really do believe we just have days left until things begin to unravel. I'm so excited to see how all of these events start to unfold. If only the Jewish people would get out of the cities. I don't know how to convince them to flee to the mountains, but Jesus warned them that they needed to get out of the city when the abomination is set up, which should take place on Friday when Obama stands in the holy place. If only they could see and were not blinded.

Blessings,
Renee

P.S. Notice that Jesus says, "When you see STANDING in the holy place..." Obama did not kneel down at the grotto. Remember in the movie, "The Bible", showing on the History Channel this month, that when all the Kings of the East and shepherds saw the baby, they ALL kneeled down to worship Him (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zd2XABANjw watch starting at 1 hour). Matthew 2:11 - "On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they BOWED DOWN AND WORSHIPED HIM. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh." This is the appropriate response - kneeling before the King. Obama did not kneel, he just stood there, as Jesus prophesied that he would. One day, he will bow his knee. This ABOMINATION that we have all just witnessed will cause the desolation to take place. The abomination causes the desolation. Obama is an abomination to the Lord. DESOLATION = A STATE OF COMPLETE DESTRUCTION, DEVASTATION, AND RUIN.


Two days ago, the President said in Hebrew, “So long as there is a United States, you are not alone.” So, if there is no United States, Israel stands alone. Knock out the Queen to get to the King. Revelation 18:7-8: "In her heart she boasts, ‘I sit enthroned as queen. I am not a widow; I will never mourn.’ Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her: death, mourning and famine. She will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her." During his speech, US President Barack Obama said "Israel is the most powerful country in the region, and has the unshakable support of the strongest nation in the world." The desolation involves the Rapture of the firstfruits (or firstborn) to be protected for 1260 days (Revelation 12), the trampling of Jerusalem for 1260 days (Revelation 11:2), the start of the ministry of the 2 witnesses in sackcloth for 1260 days (Revelation 11:3) which I believe will be the left-behind Church and Israel, and the destruction of Babylon America.





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March 31 / April 1, 2013 Rapture? A look at the 7th day of Unleavened Bread (parts 1-3)

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It is an interesting post with lots of cool pictures but the abomination of desolation does not happen in Bethlemen
It happens at the Temple, or Temple Mount
The distance between Bethlehem and the Temple mount is about 9km



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Martin (25 March 2013)
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When the abomination that causes desolation takes place, Antichrist shall declare himself God.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

This abomination is the signal for the great tribulation, which shall begin the great persecution of Israel.

Matthew 24:15-22 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

This antichrist is revealed with all power, lying signs, and wonders. (2 Thessalonians 2:6-12) He shall demand the world's worship, and the world shall worship him. He will rule the entire world.

Revelation 13:7-8 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Obama is without a doubt an antichrist; however, he is NOT the Antichrist. He was not revealed with all power, lying signs, and wonders. He did not declare himself God above everything that is called God. He is not ruler of the entire world. The entire world is not mesmerized/worshipping him. He has not started massacring Jews and christians in earnest.

I do believe Obama is an agent for the antichrist and the global government. I also believe this new Pope is going to be the catalyst for the new world religion. He has already begun at break neck speed to call for inter-faith unity. We are without a doubt near the very doors of this tribulation period, but it has not begun yet.

Keep watching saints, Jesus is returning. Maranatha




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Doves,

Renee's post on the abomination taking place when O entered the church of the nativity and just stood there makes sense to me. If you think about it, all the signs are here except the rebuilt temple. And the fortress description of the church of the nativity lines up perfectly with scripture.

Looking at Mark 13 where the abomination of desolation is referenced in verse 11, I noticed something further in that chapter. Verse 24 - "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 and the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together the elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of earth to the uttermost part of heaven."

The sun darkened... there's a solar eclipse on May 10, 2013 - an annular eclipse where the sun appears in a bright ring around the moon.

The moon shall not give her light... there's a partial lunar eclipse on April 25, 2013. (moongiant.com)

And the stars of heaven shall fall... the asteroid and meteorites keep falling to the earth lately.

The powers of heaven shaken... some disaster about to happen.

Then the description of the rapture.

Good post Renee!

Come quickly Lord Jesus!

Joe M



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I've enjoyed reading your site.

What do you think about DanielsTimeline.com? God speaks the language of the
times, so Daniel's future years would likely fit our years without any
recalculation. Right? Thus, using the UN declaration to restore and rebuild
the fig tree nation Israel, we calculate: 1947 + 62 + 7 = 2016. Subtract 3
1/2 years and you have spring of 2013 (March 20-22 are after winter and
before the Sabbath!).

Does President Obama's Trip to Israel fulfil Daniel, John, and Jesus'
prophesies? (Dates coincide with prediction over 8 years ago by
DanielsTimeline.com)

Note: Apparently, underlying Hebrew does not say that the Antichrist will
actually stop the sacrifices, or place the abomination, or stop an offering.
These, and the temple being rebuilt, are all apparently wrong assumptions by
man.

1. Exactly 1260 days previous to March 22, 2013, on October 9, 2009, Obama
was given the Nobel peace prize. Also, in early 2009 the new President Obama
confirmed peace treaties with Israel, etc.

2. On March 20-22, 2013 President Obama traveled to Israel confirming a
"Covenant of [Many] Peoples" (Daniel 9:27 ). He promised Israel an eternal
covenant. How could any person, considering himself mortal, promise and
everlasting covenant?

3. There was an order to stop at least one group from sacrificing a lamb.
Police confiscated at least one lamb recently.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=166560. The
award given by the Prime Minister to Obama could be the "offering".

4. Obama entered Jerusalem on the donkey symbol of the Democratic Party on
Nisan 10 ( March 21 ), same date as Jesus' triumphal entry. He has been
declared several times in the media and by many people as a messiah.
Recently a music star declared him as "god and our savior", etc.

5. His administration showed a graphical "image" of the State of Israel that
cut Jerusalem and the Temple Mount out of Israel and placed it back under
gentile/Palestinian control (i.e. an abomination). The Dome of the Rock is
also an abomination or detestable thing on the Temple Mount.

6. There was an ice sculpture created in Obama's image.

7. President Obama entered the holy site of Jesus' birth on March 22.

8. This all happened after winter (March 20) and the day before
Sabbath/Saturday March 23 ( Matt. 24:15-21 ).

What do you think? Just coincidence?

Bruce





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Dear Frank and all Fivedoves Readers,




First of all I would like to thank John Tng for allowing me to share on Fivedoves what I believe the Lord is showing me. I am grateful to him for the opportunity to share these things with all of you. Thank you, John, for giving me the opportunity to share what I believe the Lord has been doing to fulfill the Scriptures. And thank you, to everyone, for your patience with me as the Lord reveals one piece of the puzzle at a time. I never know when the last piece is, so I may get too dogmatic at times. I just get so excited when the Lord brings revelation of something to me and have come to the understanding that He has been giving me pieces to a puzzle.




I write what I write for those who are left behind. I know only a few people are reading what I write now and watching my videos, and that most of them will be taken in the Rapture, but I'm trying to leave enough behind for those few who may have seen one of my videos or read something I wrote, so that they can take it and use the information to help reach the lost by showing them how these things fulfilled the prophecies in Scripture. The Lord told me that something I write will help save millions from the deception that is coming, so I write with those people in mind. But now, I am starting to write with everyone else in mind also, because I know that we have probably just have a few days left before the firstfruits Rapture, and whether you make the Rapture or not, I want to show you where we are in the "timing" of God's calendar.





I have grown up in Church and been in full-time ministry for 18 years. I have diligently studied the Scriptures for over 25 years. But that, in itself, does not qualify me to interpret the prophecies of the Bible. Only the Holy Spirit Himself is able to interpret Scripture and reveal it to our hearts.



At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.”



I am fully aware of the traditional teaching of how the end-times will play out, and also aware that probably over 90% of Christians believe a scenario that goes something like this: The Rapture will happen. Christians will be taken from the earth. Right after the Rapture, a 7-year peace treaty will be signed by the Antichrist and Israel, allowing Israel to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. Animal sacrifices will start daily when this temple is built. In the middle of the 7 years of Tribulation, the Antichrist will ride into Jerusalem (probably on a white horse) and sit in this Temple and tell the world that he is God and stop these animal sacrifices. When this happens, the Jewish people need to flee to the mountains because this is the abomination and desolation will take place. Three and a half years later, Jesus will return to earth on a white horse with all the Raptured saints who have been partying in heaven for 7 years. We will then rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years.



Did I get it right?




You know, when Jesus came the first time, people also had pre-conceived ideas of how everything would play out.

John 7: Among the crowds there was widespread whispering about him. Some said, “He is a good man.” Others replied, “No, he deceives the people.” But no one would say anything publicly about him for fear of the leaders…At that point some of the people of Jerusalem began to ask, “Isn’t this the man they are trying to kill? Here he is, speaking publicly, and they are not saying a word to him. Have the authorities really concluded that he is the Messiah? But we know where this man is from; when the Messiah comes, no one will know where he is from.”

You see, the Jewish people were expecting a King, like David, who would save them from the Romans and establish Israel as the most powerful nation in the world. After all, their God was the One and Only true God, and He had chosen Israel to represent Himself to the nations. This Jesus, He wasn’t doing anything the way they had expected, so they were so confused. And very few believed.

Prophecies are rarely, if ever, fulfilled in the way we expect them to be. The Lord gets all the glory when He fulfills prophecies in a way that no one is expecting. The disciples’ eyes were only opened AFTER Jesus had risen from the dead, even though Jesus had told them many times that he would be killed in Jerusalem and raise from the dead on the third day. Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Do we really expect that He will do it differently this time? Do we think it will be so obvious that everyone can see it? No, He will choose to open the eyes of those whom He chooses, those who are not so set in their preconceived interpretations of the prophecies that they are willing to listen and hear what the Spirit is saying.

Let’s look at the verses you are referring to:

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 - Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

I think we can all agree that there has been a “falling away” in America and that Mr. Obama is a man of lawlessness, who thinks he is above the law. He opposes God and what God stands for. This is the part you are referring to: HE SETS HIMSELF UP IN GOD’S TEMPLE, PROCLAIMING HIMSELF TO BE GOD.

So, that means that he will ride into Jerusalem and stand in a newly built 3rd temple and tell the world that he is “god”. Right? Well, that would be one possibility, but seems a little too obvious to me. Jesus didn’t ride into Jerusalem and go to the Temple and start screaming out, “I am the Messiah, worship Me! I’m the One who was to come! Here I am!” No, He came in on a donkey, humbly, as the Prince of Peace to the world. The world rejected Him. Israel rejected Him. He was not the great Messiah they wanted.

I would like to suggest to you that Mr. Obama IS trying to imitate Jesus. He was chosen as the PEACEMAKER of the world on the 7th day of Tabernacles in 2009. This was the only day of the year when the Jewish people would cry out, “Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!” This was the day that they looked for their Messiah, the “Prince of Peace”. Then they cried out to Jesus on the 10th of Nisan these same words, when He rode into Jerusalem. Those that did this recognized that Jesus was their Messiah.

Now, we have a man named Barak, whose name means “blessed”, who rode into Jerusalem on the 10th of Nisan, exactly 1260 days after he was chosen as the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize on the 7th day of Tabernacles. The two dates that are associated with Psalm 118:6 (blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord) are the 7th day of Tabernacles and the 10th of Nisan. Barak means blessed. He is trying to imitate Christ, the Prince of Peace. He won the Peace Prize on the 7th day of Tabernacles and then he came into Jerusalem as a “peacemaker” on the 10th of Nisan. Who is he that comes in the "name of the Lord"? Blessed. Barak. He comes in the Lord's name, a false Christ, trying to be Christ.

Children greeted him, waving flags, singing and dancing. This was exactly what happened when Jesus rode into Jerusalem on the 10th of Nisan: Matthew 21: But when the chief priests and the scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying out in the temple, “Hosanna to the Son of David!” they were indignant, and they said to him, “Do you hear what these are saying?” And Jesus said to them, “Yes; have you never read,

“‘Out of the mouth of infants and nursing babies
you have prepared praise’?”

Just as Jesus had young children waving palm branches to Him and worshiping Him, so Obama has children waving flags.

Obama “wept” on the 6th day of Hanukkah. This was very likely the same day that Jesus “wept” when Lazarus was dead.

Jesus spoke to His disciples about the abomination that causes desolation on the 11th day of Nisan, the day after He rode into Jerusalem. The abomination just took place on the 11th of Nisan. The next step for Obama to complete in his imitation of Jesus is to die and resurrect. There are so many references in the media and movies coming out that Obama is going to be shot in the head. The most likely days would be either Good Friday or April 1. I personally think his right eye will be taken out and his right arm made useless from the bullet.

Anyway, what does all of this have to do with: HE SETS HIMSELF UP IN GOD’S TEMPLE, PROCLAIMING HIMSELF TO BE GOD.

First of all, what I’m trying to show is that he is trying to imitate Christ and BE THE MESSIAH. He doesn’t have to come right out and scream to the world, “Here I am! I’m the one! I’m the long awaited Messiah! I am GOD!” No, just by imitating Jesus, he is declaring that HE IS THE CHRIST. We know that he is not the Christ, but the Anti-Christ. He is not the PEACEMAKER. He is the DESTROYER, the one who causes the DESOLATION.

John 1:14 - The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. (NIV)

John 1:14 - And the Word became flesh, and did tabernacle among us, and we beheld his glory, glory as of an only begotten of a father, full of grace and truth. (Young’s Literal Translation)

Jesus was the Tabernacle, or the Temple. He was God in the flesh. He is now building us, His body, to be the Temple, or Tabernacle, in which His Spirit lives.

Where was the first place that God chose to have His Son, His Tabernacle, born? In Bethlehem. The Lord was building a new Tabernacle, starting a New Covenant, with the people of the world. The place where Jesus was born is a Holy Place. It’s the very first place where HIS TABERNACLE, Jesus, started on earth.

Obama visited this Temple, this Holy Place. He did not bow his knee to the King. He did not go there to worship the Lord. Do you really think Obama was praying to Jesus while he was there, worshiping the true God and thanking Him for sending His Son to be a ransom and pay the penalty for his sin so that he might have eternal life? Does anyone here think that’s what he did last week?

No, he went there as a statement to God and to the world – I am your new Messiah. I am your Prince of Peace. He went there to defy God and proclaim to God that HE WOULD NOT BOW HIS KNEE. He went there to challenge God – to tell God that the world is now worshiping him and that he is the Messiah of the world. (Please read http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/20/rabbi-creates-special-prayer-to-be-recited-by-those-who-see-king-in-our-time-obama/ ).

But just as when Jesus rode into Jerusalem, only those with eyes to see and ears to hear really understand what is happening. Most do not have the spiritual discernment to understand how the Scriptures are being fulfilled because of too many preconceived ideas that have become set doctrines in their minds.

Obama knows exactly what he is doing and who he is trying to imitate. It’s unfortunate that Christians cannot see this. He told us that in his second (“100 days” or the “next 100 days” of his second term, he would finish them in 72 days and rest on the 73rd day. April 1 is the 72nd day of his second term. Jesus said on the cross, “It is finished”. I think Obama is pointing to April 1 as the day of his assassination. It’s April FOOL’s day.

1 Corinthians 1:18 - For the message of the cross is FOOLISHNESS to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Matthew 25: 1-2 - “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were FOOLISH and five were wise.”

Matthew 7:26-27 - But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a FOOLISH man who built his house on SAND. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.” (Please read my post about Obama being the “Sandman” and watch my video about this: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2013/reneem325-1.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59GsxtX_0E



The first verse of the Holy Bible is the foundation of the Creation Holograph. Its depth knows no limit. Its everlasting perfection glorifies the Lord God beyond measure. The text consists of 7 words and 28 letters:



At the center of these seven words we see the (Aleph-Tav). This is the Sign and Seal of the Lord God Almighty, upon which His entire Word is built. Its Hebrew gemetria is 401. Though there is no consensus on the Crucifixion date, the Giza Pyramid date is April 3 AD33 (Julian) which was April 1 AD33 (Gregorian). The two calendars are out of sync by two days as of that time. Actually the Gregorian didn't exist and as such is only a calculated date. When we overlay the modern Gregorian April 1, 2013 with the calculated Gregorian (Giza) date of Crucifixion April 1, AD33. We have a perfect match. 401 = 4/01.

I’m sure that Satan is well aware of what date Jesus was crucified on. If it was April 1 according to our modern-day calendar, that would be a good day for him to choose for Obama to be killed and then come back to life 3 days later.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 - Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Blessings to you and to all who love Jesus Christ with an undying love,

Renee Moses

http://jesusiscoming2015.webs.com/whenistherapture.htm

The Abomination that causes Desolation took place on March 22, 2013... Get out of Judea!! (Part 1) :



The Abomination that causes Desolation took place on March 22, 2013... Get out of Judea!! (Part 2) :




Obama is the Sandman (Sandy)!!!:



March 31 / April 1, 2013 Rapture? Obama's Inauguration tells the story:





The 7-year timeline (2009 to 2016) that represents the 7000-year plan of God



March 31 / April 1, 2013 Rapture? A look at the 7th day of Unleavened Bread (parts 1-3)










http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2013/reneem323-5.htm


It is an interesting post with lots of cool pictures but the abomination of desolation does not happen in Bethlemen
It happens at the Temple, or Temple Mount
The distance between Bethlehem and the Temple mount is about 9km



http://www.evi.com/q/what_is_the_distance_between_bethlehem_and_temple_mount




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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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"On the 11th of Nisan Jesus warns the disciples about the ABOMINATION standing in the HOLY PLACE!!!"


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Every single time I open the Bible the Lord brings more revelation to me! Last night in my quiet time with the Lord, I was just doing my regular Bible reading when He showed me this:

1. Jesus spoke about the abomination of desolation ON THE 11TH DAY OF NISAN!!! He rode into Jerusalem on the 10th, then He spoke about the abomination the next day. This was the 11th of Nisan. The abomination took place right on the 11th of Nisan when Obama stood in the holy place, the very same day Jesus talked about it in Matthew 24 - "when you see standing in the holy place"... So Jesus was telling us what day it would happen - on the 11th of Nisan. And Obama rode into Jerusalem on the 10th of Nisan, just as Jesus did, and Obama had children waving flags (palm branches were the national symbol of Israel and were like a flag in Jesus' day) and singing and dancing and praising him, just like Jesus did.

2. He also spoke about John's Baptism on that same day. John's baptism was a symbol of crossing the Red Sea (according to Paul) and this took place on the 7th day of Unleavened Bread. WOW! So, not only does he give us the day that the abomination will happen (11th of Nisan), on the same day, he also points us to John's baptism, which was on the 7th day of Unleavened Bread. So, He's giving us the Rapture date too (hidden of course!). He tells the Jews to flee to the mountains, a reminder of Lot, who fled to the mountains after making a FEAST of UNLEAVENED BREAD for the angels who had come to rescue him.

3. I then turn my Bible to 1 Samuel:11. Saul has just been made king and the men of a town in Israel, named Jabesh Gilead, are about to be taken as slaves. The enemy who is going to capture them told them that he is going to pluck out the right eye of every male when he makes them slaves (reminding us of the symbol of the one-eye of the illuminati, which is a reference to the idol shepherd in Zechariah 11:17 who loses his right eye). They tell the enemy to give them 7 days and then they will surrender peaceably. This town in Israel asks Saul for help. Saul kills 2 bulls and sends the pieces of the bulls to the different tribes of Israel. All Israel comes together and ON THE SEVENTH DAY, and deliverance comes and they are rescued from their enemies. How do we know this is pointing to Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread and not just any 7-day period? Numbers 28: “‘On the fourteenth day of the first month the Lord’s Passover is to be held. On the fifteenth day of this month there is to be a festival; for seven days eat bread made without yeast. On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. Present to the Lord a food offering consisting of a burnt offering of two young bulls, one ram and seven male lambs a year old, all without defect. Saul killed the 2 bulls at the beginning of the 7 days (just as they were instructed to do at the beginning of Passover) and then the deliverance came on the 7th day. So many things in the Old Testament are foreshadowing what is coming!


http://jesusiscoming2015.webs.com/whenistherapture.htm




The Abomination that causes Desolation took place on March 22, 2013... Get out of Judea!! (Part 1) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YAzVAy9Of4


The Abomination that causes Desolation took place on March 22, 2013... Get out of Judea!! (Part 2) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8wghsXa2M




Obama is the Sandman (Sandy)!!!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59GsxtX_0E


March 31 / April 1, 2013 Rapture? Obama's Inauguration tells the story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72uJ4MTRW04



The 7-year timeline (2009 to 2016) that represents the 7000-year plan of God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KQxdP59gPA

March 31 / April 1, 2013 Rapture? A look at the 7th day of Unleavened Bread (parts 1-3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1rJcN7jlzU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ci6DG0NdTg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OXPYH_A9sM







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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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The Abomination that causes Desolation took place on March 22, 2013... Get out of Judea!! (Part 2)





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