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Prophecy: Right- or Wrong-Headed? –Part I

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We hope readers will not think that we are fixated with the “beast” of Revelation 17. For those not familiar with this chapter, it presents and explains the image of the harlot, clothed in scarlet, which sits upon a blasphemous beast with 7 heads and 10 horns. In a number of articles in this space over the past year, this image has been referenced.

Yet once again we feel urged to comment on the “7 heads” (which are 7 kings, Revelation 17:10) and “10 horns” (which are also 10 kings, Revelation 17:12). Why? Not only is this a relevant topic for our time, it also seems to be one that attracts much interest … not to mention many replies and speculations. It has proven to be a contentious subject, striking both discord and agreement among readers.Yet, what concerned us most was the wild and woolly range of speculations that we encountered (many of these from readers).

For example, America is proposed as being either the beast of Revelation 17; the harlot that sits atop the blasphemous beast; the 4th beast of Daniel’s visions (Daniel 7); or the Babylon the Great of the end times (Revelation 17-1 . In fact, it can be none of these, and we fear that the promotion of such unfounded views, as well as many others, only serves to discredit prophecy and Biblical Christianity.

Admittedly, it is a challenging topic.As such, we must remain humble in our own interpretations. (Please note that in this article series, we will presume that readers are already familiar with the prophetic visions shown in Daniel 2, 7, &8 and Revelation 12, 13 & 17-18.)

We were specifically challenged to prove our views in regard to the identity of the 7 heads (kings) shown on the beast of Revelation 17 and 13, and the dragon of Revelation 12. Especially so, the first two. We will do so.

The claim was made by one reader that since no names of the seven kings are mentioned in Revelation, that therefore we cannot be sure of their identity. This is an invalid premise, we think. There are many things that are not named in the Bible. Though they may not be identified by name, this does not mean that they do not exist. Some things in the Bible are deductive. For example, the Trinity is never named, yet this does not invalidate the concept. Therefore, for the 7 kings not to be specifically named neither invalidates their existence, nor is meant to prevent their identification.

Seven Heads: So What? Why should the true identity of the seven heads even matter? Aren’t the visions of the prophets too imprecise and vague to allow any specific meaning? If we were to argue over their identity, would it not be, as Apostle Paul says, to devote oneself “[…] to myths and endless genealogies”? Is it not true that things like these “[…] promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God’s work […]” (1 Timothy 1:4)?

Of course, we should not promote controversial speculations. However, we should be advancing God’s work by rightly dividing the Word. This we want to do, and there is great profit in doing so. Everything in the Bible has been written for a reason. As Paul says, all of it is useful for teaching and correcting (2Timothy 3:16), “as examples” or “written down as warnings” to us (1 Corinthians 10:11).

Also, an incorrect Biblical worldview is never without consequence. Most certainly, an incorrect eschatology has lured much of Christendom onto the slippery slopes of Reconstructionism, Social Gospel, Amillennialism, Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism, and Relativism (to name a few distortions).

That said, some Scripture was never meant to open up effortlessly. This is certainly true for much of Daniel’s prophecies (these even being sealed up) and the book of Revelation. The Bible does not give up all of its deeper-hidden pearls without sacrifice, choosing instead to reward those that diligently seek. Thankfully, for the student, the Bible is one cohesive, interconnected document, though a compilation of 66 separate books. Every jot and tittle of it will be fulfilled (Mathew 5:18; Luke 16:17), as has been the case to date. We can study it with confidence that it will unfailingly lead to its validation … this itself being the Word.

While deep knowledge of the Bible is not necessary for salvation, at the same time, the Bible is a document that is specifically inspired by the Holy Spirit to impart all the written information that is crucial for followers of Jesus Christ to know, in matters of faith, life and prophecy. If we study the entire counsel of the Bible, we will be less inclined to give vent to baseless speculations.

There will be no excuse for not having known in advance the Bible’s admonitions, teachings and prophecies (Romans 1:20). Most certainly, the Jews will not be allowed an excuse for not having recognized the Messiah at the time of His first coming (John 15:22); and for not recognizing the signs of the approaching “Last Day,” instead giving their worship over to the False Messiah … the Antichrist.

We offer at least three reasons why it is beneficial to study the meanings behind the “beast images”and the various heads and horns found throughout Scripture. This study definitely speaks to endtime geopolitical trends. First, these images give Bible-studying Christians—even more so the Jews—an ability to accurately determine the “season” of the world. For example, were Jews to study Daniel and accept the Revelation also as inspired Scripture, they would not beso susceptible to accepting the False Messiah when he comes.An understanding of this topic better prepares the Christian to identify the prophetic “season.”

Second, a proper understanding of the beasts provides a bulwark against deception. The Last Days are characterized as deceptive and as a trap, and expressly so the last-day ruler and the Dragon (Satan). This time is truly treacherous. Our enemy is the father of lies and deception (John 8:44). “The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie” (2 Thessalonians 2:9). We are convinced that those deception times are already upon us today. Is Christendom ready? Are you?

And third, not only are the 10 kings relevant to our time today, but also “all” of the 7 Ruler Kings. The visions of the world’s 7 Ruler Kings apply to today. How so? All of them will be in existence and on the world scene during the Last Days. The prophet Daniel says that it will be “In the time of those kings, [that] the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed” (Daniel 2:44).

The Identity of the 7 Heads

As we proceed with our examination of the topic of the 7 heads and 10 horns of Bible prophecy, let’s adopt a few naming conventions. There are a confusing array of kings and heads and beasts mentioned in Daniel and Revelation. For the sake of expediency, let’s then agree to name the 7 historical kings that are shown as 7 heads as the Ruler Kings (RK); and the last-day 10 kings (shown as horns) as the 10K.

We must be candid and admit that our interpretations of the identity of the 7 Ruler Kings have evolved over time, changing modestly as new insights have been gained from Scripture. Our understanding of the 7thRuler King has been subject to the most change. Our understanding of the first six has been relatively stable. In chronological order, we have always seen them to be Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. The identity of the first two is assuredly the subject of much debate, but even more so the identity of the final 7th head. Here, the candidate we propose is the Roman 10-king rulership, as we will explain.

As such, we want to carefully lay out the Biblical support and deductions supporting our interpretation. In short, if you validly connect Old Testament and New Testament prophecy—most importantly, the book of Daniel with Revelation—you can definitely deduce the identities of the heads numbering from 3 to 6. In fact, Nebuchadnezzar is specifically named as being the founder of the 3rd kingdom (of the seven heads).

Additional sleuthing will show that the kingdoms of Medo-Persia and Greece are also directly named and can be identified as the 4th and 5th heads. With a little more deduction, it can be proven that the Roman Empire is the 6th; which in turn gives rise to the Roman derivation of the short-lived 7th head, and immediately thereafter the 8th king who is the Antichrist.

Next, in our search for the identity of the 7 kings and their impact upon our generation, it is essential that we agree on a few foundational principles. Of these, there are at least 10.

1. What is a king? There are many kings mentioned in the Bible. When the Bible uses the word “king,” it means a human being in the flesh … a male, sovereign leader. They are not demons or spirits, but real human beings. The word ‘king” is found in the Bible 2811 times (NIV). In 99.5% of these instances, human males are being referenced. There are only a handful of exceptions, and these all for special reasons. When the Bible assigns spiritual, demonic, or satanic titles, it frequently reserves the word “prince” (nagid in Hebrew). Examples of this include the Prince of Persia (Daniel 10:13, 20), Prince of Greece (Daniel 10:20), “prince of demons” (Luke 11:15), and others. We conclude, therefore, that all of the kings of the prophecies discussed in this article are real, in-the-flesh human beings, either individually or those representing a lineage of kings.

According to Revelation 17, a total of 18 kings are mentioned—real, literal, in-the-flesh men or lineage of kings—that play a prophetic role according to the Bible. So, who could they be? For at least six of these kings, the Bible provides a conclusive answer, if you read it consistently and follow all of its clues. Have you sought out the literal connections? No speculation is required, just some deduction and humility.

2. Where are the kings today? Are today’s Western leaders the equivalent to an Old Testament king? There are few kings in the world today that possess the same absolute power as did, for example, Nebuchadnezzar. There would be less than 15 absolute kings in power today in the world (most of these Arab sheiks and, interestingly also the Roman Catholic Pope). As such, there would not be enough kings to allow fulfillment of the 7th head of the Revelation 17 “beast vision” any time soon.

But are “absolute” kings actually required to fulfill these prophecies? As with all Scripture, we must consider its historical and intended meanings. In doing so, we conclude that today’s leaders of nations—i.e. chancellors, presidents, premiers … etc.—are the equivalent to an Old Testament king. How so?

The prevalent structure of sovereign power that existed in Old Testament times, was a nation or city-state with a king. Democracy or other types of representative governments had yet to develop. Recall what the Israelites said to Samuel: “[…] now appoint a king to lead us, such as all the other nations have” (1 Samuel 8:5). Not only did all nations have kings, but we also see that the word “king” was synonymous with the “leader” of a sovereign nation. But, can we prove that an Old Testament “king” is the equivalent to a Western leader today?

Recall what Daniel said to Nebuchadnezzar: “[…] you are the king of kings. […] You are that head of gold” (2:37, 38). He had the purest and most complete traits and powers of a king. Following kingdoms were represented by less valuable materials, degrading progressively from silver to clay. This is meant to show the declining potency and power of rulership.

While Nebuchadnezzar had absolute power (therefore, symbolized as the head of gold), the following Persian kings are shown to be unable even to revoke their own edicts. For example, Darius the Mede was not able to cancel the sentence upon Daniel. “The decree stands — in accordance with the law of the Medes and Persians, which cannot be repealed” (Daniel 6:12). Nor was Xerxes able to do so (see Esther 8:8).

Later, Greece ultimately gave rise to democracy. Here, to a degree, the people had power over the king. Romans leaders battled among themselves for rulership. Today, various types of rulership exist among the world’s 200 or so nations. Nevertheless, whether absolute kings or not, we can conclude that today’s equivalent to an Old Testament king is a sovereign leader, whether a president, chancellor, prime minister, or king.

3. In Bible prophecy, the words “king” and “kingdom” are used interchangeably. In Daniel 2, successive kingdoms are being described. For example, “Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule […]” (Daniel 2:39; see also 40, 41& 44). Yet, these successive kingdoms are then all referred to as kings in verse 44. Again, in Daniel 7:17 it is said that “The four great beasts are four kings that will rise from the earth.” Yet, in Daniel 7:23, “The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom.” Which is it? King or kingdom?Obviously, both.

Similar double-meanings are found in both the Old and New Testaments. In Daniel 8, the shaggy goat is said to be “the king of Greece, and the large horn between his eyes is the first king” (verse 21). Clearly, the expression “king of Greece” is used here to mean the ruling “kingdom of Greece.” In Revelation, the 7 RK are said to be seven “hills” on which the woman sits, but also seven kings (“[…] The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. They are also seven kings […]” Revelation 17:9-10).

The word “hill” is used elsewhere in the Bible to mean “kingdom” or “rulership” (for example, see Ezekiel 34:6). As such, we here again see the two concepts meant simultaneously. Therefore, we should understand that real, individual kings are being referenced, as well as the following kings of the kingdoms they may have founded. While Daniel may say to Nebuchadnezzar that he is indeed the “head of gold,” we know that at least two other Babylonian kings followed him. The Babylonian kingdom continued to remain as a Ruler King after him. Therefore, seen in the sweep of prophetic history, the Bible uses the words king and kingdom interchangeably. Crucially, we recognize each of the 7 heads as also representing world ruler kingdoms.

4. Prophetically, Is a king synonymous with a nation? Readers have written, protesting that kings should not be confused for nations in the prophetic visions that are the topic of this article series. The argument is made that when the Bible says that 10 kings come together to give their authority to the Antichrist, it only refers to the leaders and not nations. In other words, it is argued that it is not nations that are aligning into a collective; just 10 persons who also happen to be kings. While we can understand the confusion on this point, this viewis nevertheless absurd.

To begin with, there is no such thing as a king without a kingdom. A deposed king could only be an ex-king. Similarly, if there is no nation, there can be no leader. As well, kings and leaders do not act independently of their country in matters of state, sovereignty, or geopolitics. Extending authority to an Antichrist would most likely breach the constitutional powers of most country leaders today. After all, they have no authority independent of their state. Because of this dependency, the Bible treats the words “king” and “kingdom” interchangeably, as we explained in the previous section.

We have little doubt that when the Bible refers to the 10K kings, that it is also referring to the countries over which they are leaders.

Just what countries might these be? In Part II of this four part series, we continue our investigation.



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Prophecy: Right- or Wrong-Headed? –Part II

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We continue to lay down 10 foundation points to our study of the 7 heads and 10 horns on the beast shown in Revelation 17. All of these represent specific kings and kingdoms in what we have called the age-old Man-Satan Collusion. The Bible states that all of these kings, in one form or another, will be in existence in the Last Days.

We pick up with foundation #5. Before we resume, please note that we adopted a few naming conventions.After all, there is a confusing array of kings and heads and beasts mentioned in Daniel and Revelation. For the sake of expediency, we agreed to name the 7 historical kings that are shown as 7 heads on the beast of Revelation 17as the Ruler Kings (RK); and the last-day 10 kings (shown as the 10 horns) as the 10K.

5. Are the three “7-headed beasts” of Revelation 12, 13 and 17 the same or different beasts?A seven-headed creature with 10 horns and 7 heads is shown in Scripture 3 times (Revelation 12, 13 and 17). Nowhere else. They clearly all have the same main morphological features, though one is identified as a dragon, the others as beast. Furthermore, nowhere are these creatures shown together. They all are show individually; never together, such as how Clark Kent and Superman are never shown together. Why? They are the same entity in different garb.

Furthermore, we must note that the Bible does not “mix up its metaphors.” The meanings of its symbols is the same throughout the entirety of Scripture. Thus, the symbolism of 7 heads, 10 kings and crowns … etc. will be the same in all visions. It is reasonable, therefore, to conclude that these separate visions are meant to portray the same entity (i.e., the same diabolical collusion of Satan and mankind— the Man-Satan Collusion). Indeed, each of these three visions of the 7-headed creature in Revelation does provide additional descriptive information.

The beast shown in Chapter 12 is a “great sign” in the heavens (symbol), expressly depicted as a red dragon. This is meant to show the Satanically-inspired agenda behind the rulership structure of the world. These Gentile kingdoms are under the persuasion of Satan and his hordes. He can and does give rulers splendor and authority. (Christ did not contest Satan’s ability to offer the kingdoms of the world: Luke 4:5-6.) How do we know the identity of this beast, shown as a dragon in Revelation 12? We are told in Revelation 20:2: “[…] the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan […].”

As is clearly shown in the “great sign” of Chapter 12, the Dragon has a mission. It is the persecution and attempted annihilation of the Jews, the Messiah and anything that might lead to salvation. The “[…] woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head” is Israel. This is corroborated in the Old Testament in both symbol and verse.

Joseph’s visions, which he described to his brothers and father, use the same symbolism. “Listen,” he said, “I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me” (Genesis 37:9). Jacob apparently had no difficulty interpreting its meaning. The sun was him, the moon their mother, and the stars the individual tribes. Collectively, these symbols are meant to portray Israel.

Scripture also declares the world’s enmity with Israel. “See how your enemies growl, how your foes rear their heads. With cunning they conspire against your people; they plot against those you cherish. ‘Come,’ they say, ‘let us destroy them as a nation, so that Israel’s name is remembered no more’” (Psalm 83:2-4). Most certainly, the nature of the “beast” is foreshadowed here. It also leads to an important and crucial conclusion: The Gentile kingdoms (Ruler Kings) will persecute the Jews. If they are worldly kingdoms, they can never be trusted to be a protector of Israel … at least, not for very long.

The beast shown in Chapter 13, on the other hand, emphasizes its human lineage of kings (leaders) and participation in this worldly agenda. While the beast of Chapter 12 shows the motives of the spiritual realm, that of Chapter 13 highlights human history and complicity. Contrastingly, the beast of Revelation 17 shows yet different features, most notably the role of the religious harlot dressed in purple and scarlet. Though we see different aspects emphasized in each of these visions, they show the same historical, diabolical, hegemonic Satan-Man Collusion.

However, is this human and demonic interaction at the geopolitical level verified in the Bible? In other words, is there a demonic angel assigned to each Ruler King? Consider Daniel’s account of the Archangel Gabriel and Michael’s battles with Persia (Daniel 10). Both a Prince of Persia and a King of Persia are mentioned. They obviously cannot be the same personages. As already documented in this series, a king is a human, “in-the-flesh” male, while the title of “prince” is often reserved for demons. As such, we here see that the demon called the Prince of Persia was manipulating the history of Persia, detaining both its king and battling Gabriel. Also in this chapter, it is mentioned that the “prince of Greece will come” (Daniel 10:20). Here, another demonic spirit is mentioned that appears to be assigned to one particular Ruler King.

What about today? Does Satan assign demons to influence and manipulate nations? The answer, we think, is self evident. A Biblical worldview demands an answer in the affirmative. Satan, we must realize, is a master super-human strategist. It would only be common sense that he would focus his demons’ attentions upon the world’s nexus points of power and influence. You can be sure that his demonic cohorts will be more focused upon (or those with influence upon) the people living in America’s White House than they would the King of Tonga. Why? There is much more leverage upon the world to be gained by influencing a great power such as America rather than Tonga. The same principle applies to any one person of great influence or wealth. The mega rich or the super famous are most likely to be in the crosshairs of attempted demonic influence. That is why great fame is such a dangerous condition for the human being.

We see no reason to conclude otherwise: Both the Old Testament and New Testament support the view that there is a conspiracy involving Satan and mankind. The 7 heads and the 10 horns on the beasts of Chapters 12, 13 and 17, represent the same kings and kingdoms … namely, the same Satan-Man Collusion.

6. The Book of Daniel and Revelation: Can they be connected? Before proceeding further, we must agree that Daniel and Revelation provide parallel visions … one from the Old Testament, the other from the New. If these two accounts do not align, we cannot at all identify the first 5 and the 7th heads.

We are convinced that Daniel’s visions and interpretations found in Chapters 2, 7, 8 and 11 can indeed be connected to the images found in Revelation 12, 13, 17. There is an established body of scholarship that provides the basis for these connections. However, we will here briefly outline our simplistic proofs.

But first, we must also keep in mind that despite their many commonalities, there is a significant underlying difference between the prophecies found in Daniel and the book of Revelation. Daniel is only commissioned to prophesy the future. Specifically, we are told that Daniel sees “what will take place in the future” (Daniel 2:45); “[…] what is going to happen” (verse 29); “[…] four kings that will rise from the earth” (Daniel 7:17); “[…] the time of the end” (Daniel 8:17); “[…] what will happen later in the time of wrath” (verse 19); “[…] the distant future” (verse 26); and “[…] what will happen to your people in the future, for the vision concerns a time yet to come” (Daniel 10:14).

Every one of these statements concerns the future and the Jews.

John the Revelator, on the other hand, was given a wider mandate. Rather than prophesying only about what will occur over the remaining timespan of the Jews and the future, he is told to “Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later” (Revelation 1:19). In other words, he is reporting on things of the past, the present and the future. This is an important distinction.

Rather than just looking forward, John is presenting a broader documentation of history and God’s plan for the waywardness and oppositional character of mankind’s kingdoms. This is certainly the case with respect to statements he makes about the beasts of Revelation. While John sees a total of 7 heads, Daniel gives us information on only the last five, and nothing about the first two. Why? These two kings were in the past at the time of Daniel’s prophesying. Knowing this, we can proceed to make our connections.

All of the prophecies about the 7 beasts found in Scripture (Daniel 7, 8, Revelation 12, 13, 17) and the kingdoms found in Daniel 2 have the same endpoint. In every case, these visions end up with the same kingdom. It is the Messianic Kingdom. Following all the beast (Gentile) kingdoms, it is shown to be eternal.

Daniel informs us that the time of the Messianic Kingdom comes after the feet and the toes.The stone cut out without hands dashes apart the statue (Daniel 2:34). After this, “the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.” Furthermore, we know that the 4th beast of Daniel 7 (the 6th by Revelation’s count) is vanquished by God.After this arises His dominion, “[…] an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed” (Daniel 7:14).

The same is revealed in the beast visions of Daniel 8, showing that these kingdoms are destroyed, “but not by human power” (Daniel 8:25). Revelation provides much rich detail on the eternal kingdom that follows the beast of Revelation 17 and Babylon the Great.

Knowing this, a simple way of corroborating the identity and chronological order of all the OT and NT Ruler Kings is to simply count back from the Messianic Kingdom. We know that the kingdom “that is” (Revelation 17:10) must be Roman. It must be. That was the world hegemon at the time of John’s prophecies. He tells us it is the 6th in the lineage of 7. Five have fallen, one more is to come, and that one but for a little while. We also know that Daniel’s 4th beast (Daniel 7) was Roman. This can be proven in a number of ways.

First, we are told specifically that the 1st of the 5 kingdoms represented by the image with the golden head (Daniel 2) was Nebuchadnezzar. If we count the number of world kingdoms that follow him (Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome), Rome is the 4th that he sees. We conclude that Daniel’s 4th kingdom is the same as John’s 6th.

Viewing the prophecies of Daniel, it can be shown that he is referring to the same first four kingdoms in his visions. He identifies Babylon as being the first in this line. In Daniel 7 (this prophecy having been uttered before the Medo-Persians had conquered Babylon),the beasts that he sees are specifically identified as representing four kingdoms that will rise from the earth (Daniel 7:17). Then in Chapter 8, it is revealed to him that two of the kingdoms (also providing details about some of the individual kings) would be Medo-Persia and Greece (mentioned by name).

Not much later, Daniel himself witnessed the fall of Babylon (beast #1),and served Cyrus the Mede (part of beast #2). All of our observations taken together, there is no question that Babylon is followed by Medo-Persia, then by Greece. None other is shown to occur thereafter than the 4th beast. This can only be Roman.

It can therefore be easily deduced from the Bible that five of the Ruler Kings shown by Daniel and John the Revelator are the same. As such, it is valid and reliable to reference both Daniel and Revelation in our investigation of the identity of the 7 Ruler Kings.

7. Do the 7 RK heads reign sequentially or at the same time? This is a very important consideration. The terms and times of the reigns of the 7 RKs and the 10K are commonly misinterpreted. The 7 Ruler Kings (kingdoms) have their dominant hegemonic reign sequentially (one after the other). On the other hand, the 10 Kings are in power all at the same time.How do we know this?

Accepting that the prophecies of Revelation and Daniel are aligned, both referring to the 10K and RKs, we see in Daniel that the RKs follow one after the other. The beasts in Daniel 7 are specifically stated to appear in order. Greece is specifically stated to follow Persia, then comes the 4th beast. Also in Daniel 2, the RK kingdoms are said to follow sequentially.

None of the RK are world hegemons at the same time. The 10 kings shown as 10 horns, on the other hand, do reign at the same time. They are a group that collectively may have much power, but likely not so much individually. If that were not the case, they would probably not be shown as a horn on one of the heads, but rather as a head. We can easily deduce the conclusion that they exist contemporaneously from the literal statements of Scripture. Here are just five of the passages that support this conclusion:

• Daniel 7:8 states: “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them.” This “little one” can only emerge “among them” if they are all in existence at the same time.

• Also, Daniel says that 3 kings fell to the “little horn” (Daniel 7:20). If 3 of the “10 horn” kings are to fall by the hands of the Antichrist, then it is reasonable to presume that they must be reigning in the same era.

• Revelation 17:12 says that the 10 kings “[…] for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast.” Does it make sense that these 10 kings would take their turns doing so over such a short period of time? A literal, common-sense reading would indicate that the 10 kings collectively will receive authority.

• Moreover, verse 13 states that “they have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast.” What point would there be for these minor 10Ks to individually and sequentially give their power to the beast? If this were the case, it would not be possible that the 7th stage of the world-ruling beast could be powerful enough to reign over the world. Daniel clearly states that the final beast and its following 10 kings and little horn “[…] crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left” (Daniel 7:19). It “[…] will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it” (verse 23).

• Revelation 17:16 says that “The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.” The beast mentioned here is the Antichrist. (Every reference to “beast” from Revelation 17:8 onward refers to the Antichrist.) In any case, it does not make any sense for the beast and the 10 kings “to burn” the ***** sequentially rather than together.



In conclusion, the 10 kings come on the scene contemporaneously and not sequentially. They all exist at the same time. As such, there is no serial authority given to the Antichrist by the 10 kings, as is sometimes claimed. Besides being refuted by Scripture, this interpretation would not make common sense in any case. If only one king had enough power to give to the Antichrist, that would be sufficient to stamp upon and subdue the entire earth, would he not then qualify to be the Antichrist himself?

We now introduce a most perplexing question: On which of the 7 heads are the 10 horns shown, on the beastly image of Revelation 17? It is a most contentious question. In fact, if our deductions are correct, we have yet to find any artist’s rendering of this image that is correct. We will present our answer in Part III of this series.




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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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