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Rav Kaduri ZTVK"L Told His Havruta When Mashiah is Coming: Av, 5772
Rav Yosef Hayim Zaccai Shlit"a, from the city Beitar Illit, who merited to learn many years as the Havruta of the Elder Kabbalist Rav Yitzhak Kaduri ZTVK"L, and in addition, acted as the Hazzan of his Yeshiva for 15 years, reveals to "Or Elyon" the awesome secret that he heard with his own ears from the holy mouth of Rav Kaduri ZT"L on the time of Mashiah Tzidkeinu's coming:
It was on Hannukka, 5766, about a month before the passing of Moreinu VeRabbeinu the Elder Kabbalist Rav Yitzhak Kaduri ZT"L, we sat and learned the Holy Zohar as is our custom every evening. Suddenly, the rabbi asked me, 'Why did Yehuda do this?' In other words, why did Yehuda bring the Mashiah with the story of Yehuda and Tamar in a way that appears not proper? I answered him, 'The honored rabbi knows all the secrets, and definitely, that which the Kabbalists explained is not hidden from his holy eyes - that HKB"H wanted to hide from the ס"מ, who is the head of the forces of the Sitra Ahora (impure forces) in the world, that He is bringing the Mashiah in order that he will not be jealous and prevent his coming to the world. Therefore, HKB"H brought the Mashiah in an outer form that looks - Kivyachol - like it is being done in an unholy way, and by doing so, the matter will be hidden from the eyes of the ס"מ.'
The Rav repeated the aforementioned question again and again, and then, I understood that the rabbi is interested that we speak about the Mashiah. I got the courage and asked him, "Our rabbi! When will Mashiah come?" The rabbi answered me, "I cannot reveal," and laughed a big laugh. I asked him again, "Our rabbi! When will Mashiah come?" The rabbi answered in 2 words, "בשנת תשעב [In the year 5772]," (which is the year in which we are currently), and he repeated this twice. I was very shocked by his words, and immediately, when I left the rabbi's home, I went up to the Kollel of Kabbalists in the Yeshiva of the rabbi, and told over what the rabbi said to them - they were all amazed.
About 2 weeks later, in the beginning of Tevet, 5766, the rabbi was admitted to Bikur Cholim Hospital in Yerushalayim. I would arrive daily to the hospital to learn with the rabbi. And then, I asked him again, "Our rabbi! In what month and in what year will Mashiah come?" And the rabbi answered me, "In the month of Av, 5772." And he repeated this twice. It is important to note that the rabbi retained conciousness until 2 weeks before his passing. The rabbi died on 29 Tevet, 5766 (as is known, he died at the age of 113 years old!!).
From that day on until today, I publicize and tell this over to everyone I meet. A short while ago, people showed me an essay by the name of "Sod HaHashmal", which Rav Fish Shlit"a authored, and there, it is brought down a testimony from the great kabbalist Rav Morgenshtein Shlit"a, the author of the "Yam HaHochma" books on Kabbala, that he has a tradition from the Vilna Gaon ZT"L that the Geula will come at the end of the year 5772. I was very happy to see that even the great Ashkenazic kabbalists predict Mashiah's arrival at the end of this year.
It is important to note! There is a time for Mashiah's coming that in Haza"l's terminology is called "Be'ita" (in its time) - this time is hidden from all. On the other hand, the Mashiah can come at any moment if Am Yisrael will do Teshuva and will be worthy of his arrival. In Haza"l's terminology, this time is called "Ahishena" (I will hasten it). In my humble opinion, it appears that the intent of the rabbis ZT"L is that Av, 5772 is the most auspicious time for the coming of Mashiah. And it's true that we see many signs that we are extremely close to the time of the coming of Mashiah Tzidkeinu, as we showed many times in the newsletters (see, for example, the essay about Gilad Shalit in the current newsletter [YY - which is also great stuff on the same pdf, page 3]), it is incumbant upon ourselves to worry not to cause with our actions that the aforementioned set time that is auspicious for the Geula will be delayed.
As we said, we are currently in the period of the "End of Days". To what can we compare our situation today? To a giant hall full of people, and in the middle of the room, a large screen is being lowered down which will divide the room into 2 parts. Everyone that is on the right will merit "all goodness", they will benefit and be happy, whereas those who remain on the left will suffer hardships. The screen continues to fall and all that remains are a few centimeters until the screen will reach the floor. In such a situation, everyone is diving under the screen and going to the right side, and everyone is carrying his friend to give him the chance to come over to the right side. The moral of this parable is that the Holy Zohar says that only those who keep the Torah and Mitzvot will merit the Complete Geula. We are currently at the "Zero Hour". We now need to dive through the narrow opening that is left open to the world of Judaism and Teshuva, and also to carry as many good souls as possible toward Judaism with us, so that they will also merit the Geula soon, Amen.
Prophecy! MESSIAH REVEALED! - Is He Coming Soon? - REDUX
http://yeranenyaakov.blogspot.com/2011/11/rav-kaduri-ztvkl-told-his-havruta-when.html
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Steven, what you've posted really made my day!!!!
Thank's a lot!!! After a lot of failed predictions, a prediction from a famous Rabbi, the one I honor is surely worth to look and believe ....
Now, I'm really excited again about the rapture of the church!!!
Gimel
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Jimmy (22 June 2012)
"Andrea..Tu B' Av"
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I am not trying to speak for Mathman, and I will see perhaps tomorrow like everyone else if there is a type of planetary alignment for a marriage?
With that said upon looking at different articles on the board it is interesting that Steven K..wrote that Rabbi Kaduri is quoted as saying that Jesus will come in 5772 during the month of Av.
Five days after the 9th of Av is Tu B' Av (Aug 3), which several people on this board have done an outstanding job of research through the years. It is considered the Jewish Valentine's day, but for me to describe it as such is really an injustice. It is a day very rich in "type" the tribe of Benjamin was allowed to snatch a bride on this day, and if I am not mistaken every year in the wilderness the Israelites would dig a grave before Tu B' Av and sleep in them, and then the announcement would be made the next morning about "Let the Living Arise".
After years in the wilderness the very last Tu B' Av no one died so they stayed in their graves thinking they had miscalculated, and about 5 days later they realized everyone who was suppose to die had, and it eventually through the course of time became a celebration..Food for Thought ..Let the Living Arise and the Snatching of a Bride..Sounds Good to Me...Jimmy
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Andrea, they actually slept in their graves over the 9th of Av, and 5 days later was Tu B' Av the day that became a celebration. I didn't write that very clear. Thanks, Jimmy
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Marilyn Agee (28 June 2012)
"Pastor Riley: "Connecting the Dots", Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri dreamed that Yeshua would return in Av 5772"
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From: Marilyn Agee
I was getting pretty blind and have had two successful cataract surgeries. Thank you, Lord, and thank you people who have helped me when I was in trouble. I can now begin to use my computer and drive. One eye is pretty clear. The other one is clearing more each day, but still a bit blurry.
Below is some interesting news from Pastor Riley. I knew Kaduri said that the Messiah is Yeshua, but not that Kaduri dreamed that Yeshua said that he would return in Av, 5772. Hope that is right. I also searched on Google and found some interesting information you might want to see.
Pastor Riley:
> > Our readers can surely imagine the shock that it was to these Jewish Rabbis when the most honored and respected Jewish Rabbi in the whole world up until his death, told them in his final letter that the name of the Jewish Messiah is “Yeshua,” the very One whom the Jewish Rabbis have lied about and denied for centuries.
> > As I read these reports about the old Rabbi, I not only rejoiced that this information had been made public, but I immediately recognized why it had been revealed at this particular time in history. Think about it! The “seed” has now been sown among the Jewish Rabbis which will result in 144,000 of them turning to Christ immediately after the beginning of the Tribulation as they hear “the gospel of the Kingdom” being proclaimed by God’s “two witnesses.” Glory to God! Hallelujah! Praise the Lord! Thank you Lord Jesus!
> > However, that is not all the old Rabbi revealed in his final letter to his people. He specifically related how he had asked the Messiah in his dream, “When will You return?” He stated that the Messiah told him that He would return in the month of Av in the Jewish year 5772. He would not give the old Rabbi the exact date, but told him to “tell the people!”
> > Wow! Glory to God! Folks, on the Jewish calendar, this year is the Jewish year of 5772. The Jewish year of 5772 began on Rosh HaShanah, the first day of the 7th month on the Jewish calendar in 2011. But then when does the month of Av begin? The month of Av is the fifth month in the Jewish year and it begins on July 19th – 20th of this present year of 2012, less than 30 days from right now. I listed both dates because each new Jewish day begins at sundown as the religious Jews reckon time. The 20th day of July is actually the first day of Av on the Jewish calendar.
> > Now before any reader just tosses this aside as foolishness, remember Peter’s prophecy, “your old men shall dream dreams,” Acts 2:17. The oldest and most respected Jewish Rabbi in the world had this dream before he died, and then revealed these things to the Jewish people in his final letter....
> > Dot No. 2…….Some of our readers are familiar with the account of Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, the old Jewish Rabbi who passed from this life in 2006 at the age of 113. This was the Jewish year of 5766. Before his passing he claimed that in a dream the Messiah of Israel had come to him and revealed Himself to him. He told the other Rabbis in Jerusalem and other parts of the world that he knew the Messiah personally for he had met Him in his dream, spoken with Him, and worshiped Him.
I searched on Google and found these:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/stevenk621.htm" . . .I understood that the rabbi is interested that we speak about the Mashiah. I got the courage and asked him, "Our rabbi! When will Mashiah come?" The rabbi answered me, "I cannot reveal," and laughed a big laugh. I asked him again, "Our rabbi! When will Mashiah come?" The rabbi answered in 2 words, "בשנת תשעב [In the year 5772]," (which is the year in which we are currently), and he repeated this twice. I was very shocked by his words, and immediately, when I left the rabbi's home, I went up to the Kollel of Kabbalists in the Yeshiva of the rabbi, and told over what the rabbi said to them - they were all amazed.
About 2 weeks later, in the beginning of Tevet, 5766, the rabbi was admitted to Bikur Cholim Hospital in Yerushalayim. I would arrive daily to the hospital to learn with the rabbi. And then, I asked him again, "Our rabbi! In what month and in what year will Mashiah come?" And the rabbi answered me, "In the month of Av, 5772." And he repeated this twice. It is important to note that the rabbi retained conciousness until 2 weeks before his passing. The rabbi died on 29 Tevet, 5766 (as is known, he died at the age of 113 years old!!)."
Note: The month of Av this year, 2012, is from July 20 to August 18.
I also found these interesting videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkvQUdqIK6Y&feature=relatedIt
“The initial Hebrew letters of the phrase ‘The masses will themselves arise and verify that his words and his teachings can stand’ spell out Yehoshua.”...
“Death Note of Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri
The name of Messiah
Yehoshua” ...
“Rabbi Yitzchak Kaduri
(died January 28 2006)”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO17bVoiYd0&feature=related
“Concerning the letter abbreviation of the Messiah’s name, He will lift the people and prove that his word and law are valid.”
Agape,
Marilyn Agee
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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Jim Bramlett (30 June 2012)
"One of the most fascinating stories I have ever heard"
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Dear friends:
You may have heard about the late Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, who died in 2006 at age 113 or more, Just google his name and you will find all kinds of information.
Before he died, he claims to have had a personal encounter with the Messiah. To the shock of many, he reportedly revealed the actual name of Messiah (Yeshua, Jesus), although some hard core Jews dispute that, as would be expected, because such would be antithetical to modern Judaism.
It is also reported that he revealed the month and year that Jesus will return. He wrote that he had asked Yeshua when he was going to return, and Jesus told him the year and the month, but not the day. He reportedly told Rabbi Kaduri that he will return in the month of Av in the Jewish year 5772 (this year). The month of Av will begin on July 19-20 of 2012 and will end on August 18.
There is much about the rabbi that is controversial, such as did he meet the real Messiah or a fake, Some of his theology is in serious error, such as his Kabbalah involvement. I do not know the answer, so judge for yourself.
However, to me what makes the story very relevant, indeed compelling, is that some very astute Bible prophecy students have independently concluded that the rapture will probably occur sometime in July or August 2012. Interestingly, their timing fits what the late rabbi reportedly said.
Here is one of the Web sites reporting on the late rabbi: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/stevenk621.htm
Jim
An Addendum by me
Here is another link to David Flynn Video on our site that was posted in February 24 2012 that came to the same conclusions.
http://tinyurl.com/DavidFlynnResurrection2012
Rapture July/August?
The Video is well worth the time to "WATCH"
ybic
Steven
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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Jim Bramlett (30 June 2012)
"Re: Pastor Riley: "Connecting the Dots", Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri dreamed that Yeshua would return in Av 5772"
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/marilyna628.htm
I see Marilyn beat me to the punch on the rabbi story.
So did Steven King at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/stevenk621.htm, and maybe others.
But that's okay. The more the merrier. The story is worth multiple exposure.
Jim
ADDENDUM you may also find this video by David Flynn that predicts something to happen in JULY / August of 2012
http://tinyurl.com/DavidFlynnResurrection2012
Click on the link: Scroll down to the first (1st) Video and "WATCH"
God Bless
ybiC
Steven
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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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"More on the late Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri's 2012 prediction"
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Dear friends:
This morning I was meditating on the late, 113-year-old Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri's claimed revelation direct from Jesus (Yeshua) that he would return in the month of Av, Jewish year 5772 (this year), which would be July 19-20, and end on August 18, 2012.
My thoughts turned to a message I sent out on March 5, 2010 about the year 2012, which is quite profound in light of what the rabbi revealed.
Here it is:
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From March 5, 2010:
Dear friends:
Jesus’ disciples asked Him: “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age? (KJV: end of the world)?” (Matthew 24:3, NKJV).
“Age” or “world” is from the Greek word aion, which properly means period of time. “Age” is probably a better translation.
Jesus added later that His coming would be “as it was in the days of Noah” (v.37, NIV).
Most of my life I believed the “days of Noah” clue only means most of the world would be taken by surprise, as Paul explained that to those in darkness He would come “as a thief in the night” (1 Thessalonians 5:2).
Stay with me now….
In recent years, however, I have come to believe that passage the Lord gave us contains a more explicit and precise hint.
In his book cited below, noted researcher and author Tom Horn says, “aion” is the word the Greeks used to designate an actual cycle of the Milky Way alignments or the span of an age. Author David Flynn says of this:
“The answer Jesus provided His disciples for ‘when’ the end of the age would occur was specific. The astronomical signs in the heavens would be just as those during the days of Noah when Leviathan encircled the horizon in the dawn of the Summer solstice. There could have been no more accurate comparison made between our present time than the age of Noah… The present aion is coming to a close. Like the sunteleia (completion) before, there will be great upheaval and change.’
Tom Horn and David Flynn are both talking about the soon-coming year AD 2012.
Writer Dan Eden says:
On the same day when our Sun is at its solar maximum, something will happen that's never happened for thousands of eons of time -- the ecliptic of our solar system will intersect with the Galactic plane, called the "Galactic Equator" of the Milky Way! What makes 2012 significant is that it coincides with the alignment of the center of the Milky Way galaxy, our sun, earth, and the large planets. If it was not for this fact I would say that 2012 was just another Y2K hoax. But the astronomy makes it believeable. (See http://www.viewzone.com/endtime.html.)
Another Web site says, “The alignment in 2012 makes things more interesting as the two days on which the sun will cross the galactic plane that year happens to align with two solstices. Such a thing happens only once in 13,000 years.”
In his book, “Apollyon Rising 2012: The Lost Symbol Found and the Final Mystery of the Great Seal Revealed,” Tom Horn provides massive evidence that the year 2012 is not just of interest because of the end of the Mayan calendar on December 21st of that year, which the typical mockers attack. There are many other reasons. He also shows that the date December 21, 2012 is oddly encoded in the Great Seal of the United States. It is a date that has been mysteriously anticipated in history by occult insiders. Horn believes it may mark either the middle or the beginning of the final seven years.
I recommend this book as a totally fascinating read. Here are some comments:
"I'M SPEECHLESS! TOM HORN'S APOLLYON RISING 2012 [IS] SHOCKING! TERRIFYING! PROVOCATIVE! EDGY! DANGEROUS! DARE I SAY IT COULD BE THE BEST BOOK I HAVE EVER READ!?"
Bob Ulrich, for Prophecy in the News
"SKEPTICS CAN STICK THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND, BUT HORN PRESENTS THE RESEARCH. WISHING HIS CLAIMS AWAY WON'T MAKE THEM GO AWAY. HORN, A KEY FIGURE IN THE MODERN BIBLE PROPHECY MOVEMENT, HAS COMPILED ENOUGH DETAIL TO MERIT SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. COMPELLING!"
Jim Fletcher, WorldNetDaily
By the way, Apollyon is the name of the angel from the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:11 (interesting number). It is the antichrist.
Tom Horn’s Web site is at http://www.apollyonrising2012.com. You can get the book at www.amazon.com and probably save money.
Oh, one other thing. If Tom Horn is correct about 2012 being either the middle or the beginning of the final seven years, either one, the rapture could be truly at the door. It could be today. God could have given us this book as an additional warning.
Look up. Be ready. He is coming!
Jim
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The post about Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri stating that the return of Jesus would be July 20 around.
Well i never was one for posting dates, but I do know that this is it! all the waiting for the tension in the middle east is done. Israel will not wait any longer. If they do not attack Iran before then i would be very surprised. But just before that the BIG ONE is going down. Syria,,,with all there support, Russia and China. Those two countries did not place so much fire power right off the coast of Syria for nothing.
I have another feeling that has been bothering me. North Korea, China has been bulking up there Navy for some time now, they have proven they can shoot down satellites, there submarine followed our submarine for 2 weeks before! China told us they were doing so!
My theory has always been that next chance China and Russia have to Invade us when a bulk of our forces were abroad they would. Well that time is here and growing.
Could China, North Korea, Russia and Venezuela have us in there sights? Putin thinks Obama is a Joke and Weak and so does China. Venezuela has something powerful that was given to Iran by Russia to place there. There is Cuba too. Lets not forget the gaping hole at our Mexico boarder.
Our Pacific coast is not as secure as the Atlantic, especially if a bulk of our forces are on the Atlantic side. Lets not forget China has been working and have developed stealth technology with ships.
To me everything is read.
What are your thoughts
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Hi Doves,
This was posted on Rita.
I'm expecting the Rapture to occur on the correct Day of Pentecost, which is Friday the 20th of July 2012 [29th of Tammuz]
http://creationcalendar.com/CalendarIssue/17-FeastOfWeeks.pdf
A WEEK FROM THE 13TH OF JULY 2012 IS THE 20TH OF JULY 2012!!!!
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Dear John,
I have never posted on your web site before and I would like to post this. I hope this is the correct address to send it.
I am sure everybody here has heard about Rabbi Yitzack Kaduri's statement that the rapture will occur during the month of Av in the Hebrew year of 5772. However, there are a few things that have not been mentioned that I feel are important and need be mentioned.
When Kaduri died in 2006 he was somewhere between 103 and 113 years old, depending on which source you read. Apparently his mind was not ravaged by dementia. There are several places in the Bible where it alludes to a long and fruitful life being a sign that the individual found favor in God's eyes. This, I feel, lends credibility to Kaduri.
The Bible tells us to test the spirits (Can't remember the exact chapter and verse here). We are told that a person who says that Jesus is the Son of God and the one and only means to the Father, and thus salvation, is speaking on behalf of God. If a person says anything different they are a false prophet. Obviously Kaduri passes this test. In fact, I think it is very significant that Kaduri wrote what he did and then sealed it in the envelope that was to be opened one year after his death. That one sentence not only proclaimed the name of the Messiah to the Jews, but it also established his credibility as a true prophet at the same time.
According to Kaduri's son, who was 80 when Kaduri died, the vision that his father had of meeting the Messiah in a vision had a very deep and profound affect on the rest of his life. One of the signs that a vision or a near death experience is real is that it has a deep and profound positive impact on the rest of the person's life.
In 2006 I would have not believed the report by Kaduri that the rapture would happen in 5772 (2012 in Gregorian dating) because I would have expected the rapture to happen long before then. However, we are now in 2012 and there are so many signs that we are not only in the final days of the Age of Grace, but that we are in the final moments. But anyway, if Kaduri was guessing (and I do not think that he was) then he was mighty darn accurate. In fact, I feel he was too accurate to have been guessing. I believe that Jesus actually told him.
Notice how Kaduri was given a possible time frame of a month, but not the day or the hour. It is like Jesus stayed within His parameters of not revealing the "day or hour" but still gave the Jews a final warning to get ready that was a time frame more narrow and specific than He has in the past. God's chosen people are the Jews. I think it is only natural that God would give His chosen people an additional warning to get ready.
I am not exactly certain, but it appears from what I have found in my research that Kaduri was the chief rabbi of Israel. The Jews do not have a chief priest, like they did a couple thousand years ago. Therefore, it would seem to me that the chief rabbi would be roughly equivalent to being a chief priest. But if I am right, then Kaduri certainly has a tremendous amount of credibility when speaking about the Messiah and His return.
Many believe the rapture will occur on some purely random date because Jesus said that He was coming at a time when we would not be expecting Him. Everything that God has created, from the movements of stars and planets throughout the heavens to the most minute sub-atomic particle, moves and occurs with the precision that far exceeds the finest Swiss watch. I see nothing in the universe that happens randomly. Therefore I expect to see the Messiah return on a day that is significant in some way. Good seems to place a huge emphasis on traditions and on dates.
Many believe that the rapture will not occur on a Jewish holiday because the rapture is about the Church, and the Church is all about the gentiles, rather than the Jews. I totally disagree. The rapture will bring about the end of the Age of Grace and it will be the point on the timeline when God turns His attention from taking a people for Himself (the Church) back to His chosen people, the Jews. Therefore, I would really expect the rapture to occur on a day that has some significance to the Jews.
Throughout the Bible the rapture is compared to the traditions of the Jewish wedding. I would expect the rapture to occur on a day that would fit into this comparison.
As we all know, Av runs from July 20th to August 18th this year. During that time I know of 2 days of significance to the Jews. One of these days is Tu B'Av, which is roughly equivalent to Valentines Day in the US and is a day in which many Jewish weddings are held. This would certainly be a logical day for a groom to come for His bride.
Based on Yitzack's statement that the rapture will occur during the month of Av in the year 5772, I feel the entire time frame between July 19-20 thru August 18th should be a major watch time, with the most probable time during this range of days being Tu B'Av, which occurs on August 2-3.
Carl Worline
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Hello Doves,
"The Dark Knight Rises"
Now to John 9: 4, "....the night cometh, when no man can work."
The word "cometh" is #2064 in Strong's Concordance is erchomai. It's meaning: 1) to come; 1a) of persons; 1a1) to come from one place to another. It also means: 1a2) to appear, make one's appearance, come before the public; 2a) to come into being, arise, come forth, show itself, find place or influence.
Did we not just witness this?
It's beyond coincidence this verse, and the title of this movie, and what occurred in Aurora, Co., happened by chance on the first day of Av. Don't forget what the Rabbi said about the month of Av.
There's much I could write on this, but I know it would be too controversial, so I'll leave it alone. All I will say is we MUST be prepared in our heart and mind, with both having been renewed by the washing of His blood and true repentance, and to be born again of the Holy Spirit.
In Christ,
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Rabbi Kaduri, the one who died at an advanced age and gave the name of the messiah as Yeshua, said that the Jewish Redeemer would come in the month of Av.
He did not speak of a rapture. He said the Redeemer would come after the death of Sharon. We have not heard of the death of Sharon.
The more recent quote from another well-known rabbi, which was linked on Five Doves, stated that a probable time for the Redeemer to come was August 15. This was
based on Torah Codes.
Rabbi Kaduri said that he had seen the Messiah, and his name was Yeshua. I presume this was in a vision. But remember that Rabbi Kaduri thinks the Messiah
is already with us in the person of a man. He does not expect humans to be "caught up" when the Messiah appears. He does not expect him to come in the clouds.
The rapture is a foreign concept to him, as far as I have read.
So these rabbis are not expecting the rapture. But the fact that they expect the coming of the messiah is very hopeful even to us. They expect their dead to rise
when the messiah comes, and this is not well known outside of Jewish circles. Many Christian pastors preach that the Jews do not believe in the resurrection.
This is incorrect. Many Jews do expect a resurrection of the dead. They probably believe it is their own dead, not our dead.
But one thing I have gradually learned about Jews is that they, like Christians, have varying opinions about this. They have the "righteous gentiles" buried in Jerusalem,
like Otto Schindler, and some of them may believe the righteous gentiles are to be resurrected too.
Just as I believe the righteous Jews, those who hoped for Messiah to come, will be resurrected to what Daniel called everlasting life. They were blinded until He comes
and cannot yet see the complete good news about Yeshua.
May the complete revelation come soon to them.
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Because Rabbi Kaduri was so influential in Israel, his words about Messiah coming in Av 2012 and his anagram of the Messiah's name being Yehoshua carry weight in Israel. I do not know if the real Jesus spoke to him, it was a demonic plot, or his information was due to his illness and advanced age. His changed demeanor towards the name of Jesus indicates that it was something from the spiritual realm. Regardless of the source, what matters is what the enemy might do with this information.
IF - IF Messiah does not come in the month of Av, it will discredit the old rabbi and cause the hearts of the Jewish people to become even harder against the name of Yehoshua/Yeshua/Jesus.
Israel does not need this spiritual setback. We need to pray that the enemy is not able to use such a weapon against the Jewish people. We need to be ready and willing to leave and give up the rest of our lives on this planet to keep this further hardening and accompanying loss of souls from being possible. If we go during Av, the prophecies will have full effect on the Jewish people. They may wake up, soften their hearts towards the name of Jesus, and be saved.
The month of Av in 2012 is from July 20 to August 18.
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I do not believe Rabbi Kaduri said that the Messiah would arrive in the month of Av of this year. Somehow this version of his pronouncements has emerged, and I myself have incorrectly stated this on Five Doves.
We as Christians should not believe all that Rabbi Kaduri stated, in any case. At one point, when he was yet alive and teaching, he said that he had received a revelation that the Spirit of Messiah had attached itself to a man living in Israel. This is a different view of Messiah than we as Christians have.
And he said that the Messiah would come after Ariel Sharon has died, which was is primary way of dating the coming. It is reported on some sites that he said that Sharon would be the last Prime Minister of Israel, which we know is not true. He did indeed write on a piece of paper, opened a year after his death, that the name of the Messiah would be Yehoshua (Yeshua). And because of this a lot of pronouncements have come forth which are confusing and cannot all be true.
He was a teacher of Kaballah, a mystical form of Judaism, of which we should be cautious. Stephen Yulish, a Jew converted to Christianity, has written about the dangers of Kaballah. One place Yulish has written about this is on the site Heed the Watchman for April 28, 2010. Yulish studied Kaballah and also was in the so-called New Age, and speaks with that background of experience. I hesitate to say who is right or wrong in this debate about Kaduri, but I hope we will not use his statements without careful checking, as I myself unfortunately did on one post to Five Doves.
May He come soon for all his people,
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