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"Probability Obama is the Anti-Christ is 150 million TRILLION to one!!"




IMPORTANT: Please note that I am a firm and unwavering believer in the Pre-Trib Rapture. However, I no longer believe that the Post-Rapture Tribulation Period will be seven years. Indeed, it is mathematically certain that the Post-Rapture Tribulation Period will actually be less than four years (including the 42 month Great Tribulation). However, I must clarify, without a doubt, that I do not believe the Church will see God’s wrath, nor be persecuted by the Anti-Christ. In contrast, both Pre-Wrath & Mid-Trib (which I have been accused of on occasion) believe the Church will have to endure these things to a certain extent. I absolutely do not believe we will have to endure these things AT ALL. Indeed, I firmly believe in the Great Hope, promised by Jesus, that we, who truly believe and are counted worthy, will escape ALL THESE THINGS. The Lord said it, I believe Him and so should you!

For those with questions, after you have read the below article, I am POSITIVE that, if you read the following posts and research this material with the Scriptures in hand, with all of your heart and in prayer, each and every one of your questions will be self-answered:

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1214.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman127.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1213.htm


http://www.thefinal7yearsareherenow.com/

Now, on to the article:

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Janice Steadfast, or Jan, as her friends called her, stood in the crowd clapping, a huge grin on her face, stretching from ear to ear. Jan had an excellent background – loving parents, a comfortable home, well educated and an evangelical faith in the Lord that knew no bounds. Indeed, it was her love for the Lord that led her to campaign tirelessly for Barack Hussein Obama for President over a year ago. Now, here she was, on January 20, 2009, standing shoulder to shoulder with millions of other people in Washington DC, celebrating the coronation of the recently crowned “most powerful man in the world”. Finally, a man was in the Oval Office, who personally promised to change, not just the U.S.A., but the entire world!! Given Obama’s supposed devout Christian background, it seemed obvious to her that Obama was the one Jan should back with all of her heart.



However, what happened next, which at first seemed “normal”, suddenly gripped her very soul with fear. As President Obama addressed the crowd, several people to the left and to the right of her started crying with joy, while others fainted, falling to the ground. A man two rows back of her exclaimed loudly to the woman he was with, “Finally, we have a messiah that will lead us out of the mess Bush got this world into." Jan’s mind immediately flashed back to the previous Sunday. As “luck” would have it, the Pastor at her home church had just done an entire sermon on the second chapter of 2 Thessalonians. However, there was one verse that REALLY stuck out TO her. Each and every word of that verse now came flooding back to her:



2 Thessalonians 2:3: “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition”.



This verse had stuck with Jan during the sermon and, at the time, she was not sure why. Was God trying to tell her something? What “day” was God referring to? Then she remembered what the Pastor had said. The Pastor had indicated that this verse was referring to the Blessed Hope, the Rapture, PRECEDING the day of the wrath of God, striking the earth during the Tribulation Period? So then, what exactly did the Lord mean by “falling away first”? What exactly did the Lord mean by “that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition”?



The answer to the first question was easy. The falling away was the church turning away from God’s true Word and listening instead to whatever tickled their ears. Jan knew all too well that this had already happened, and indeed was getting MUCH worse, for it had taken her well over two years to find a home church she trusted. Finally, Jan had found a Pastor that was a true man of God and who talked often, and with great passion, about the soon return of Jesus. The other churches, which Jan had rarely stayed at for more than a month, instead always talked about becoming rich and sending in your money to their organization to show God you supported “God’s work”. This message of prosperity never sat right with Jan and the Holy Spirit always told her to flee these types of churches as soon as possible.



However, it was the second part of this verse that really had Jan horrified. Just as she was about to reiterate the verse to herself yet again, Obama must have said something exciting, as the whole crowd suddenly erupted in wild cheers yet again and another woman fainted, almost hitting Jan as she collapsed. Suddenly, Jan felt an overwhelming need to drop to her knees as well. But not because of anything Obama said in that incredibly charismatic manner he was known and revered for. Instead, it was the words in the verse “and that man of sin be revealed”. That “man of sin” could very well be referring to the Anti-Christ being revealed just prior to the Rapture.



“My God, my God”, she cried in her head, “What have I done? Did I just help the Anti-Christ step into the most powerful office in the world? Is Obama one of the Illuminati, whose primary purpose is to destroy America to make way for World Government?” Thousands of these thoughts suddenly seemed to swirl around Jan’s head at the same time to the point that she almost passed out. “It couldn’t be, it couldn’t be”, Jan thought to herself, “or could it be?”



Jan had an extraordinary mathematical background. As such, she needed to be scientifically sure before she blew the whistle on Obama. She needed to understand the facts on the ground and understand how Obama, now possibly rising as the Anti-Christ waving to the adoring crowd, could fit into the Lord’s timeline. IF Obama was indeed the Anti-Christ, others had to find out NOW. If time was running out, people had to know NOW. If Jesus was coming back, the time was NOW for all of His followers to draw close to Him. This means the ark was being loaded and Jan knew it wouldn’t be long before the door would shut. Indeed, the Church would have to get as many people on board the ark as possible, BEFORE Sudden Destruction rained down on the earth in the very near future.



Jan shuddered at the thought. Jan fought through the enormous crowds and raced home, risking a speeding ticket along the way. Once home, Jan scoured her Bible for clues and hints as to what to look for, and when to look for, the Anti-Christ. Jan also scoured the websites she trusted, such as Five Doves, for information. She came across the following website and it answered many, MANY of her questions on the revealing of the Anti-Christ:

http://www.thefinal7yearsareherenow.com/



In addition, www.fivedoves.com also had MANY excellent mathematical proofs she could relate to specifically on Obama being the Anti-Christ. Jan had not even been aware of these sites until now. Too little, too late – Obama was already in office. Jan wept uncontrollably. What had she done? Jan was so mad at herself for not researching before acting on Obama’s behalf. But thank God, soon she started feeling the overwhelming love of the Holy Spirit calm her down and tell her now was the time for action, not guilt. She was reminded that it is as it has to be and prophesied thousands of years ago. Instead, due to these extreme circumstances, unfolding at break neck speeds all around her, Jan’s gifts for logic and mathematical reasoning were now being called by the Lord to be used to educate her fellow Christians!!

In Jan’s opinion, the articles Jan read through on these excellent websites simply didn’t go far enough in pulling it altogether, despite their incredible mathematical analysis. Jan needed the cold hard facts and these facts in turn needed to be converted into probabilities that the average person could understand. Jan wanted to be able to build consensus in the helping hands of Christ, not division. She felt the Holy Spirit tell her that NOW was the time for her mathematical journey to begin. The almost single-minded drive Jan had in assisting Obama in being elected as President of the most powerful nation in the world was now being re-directed by the Lord Himself.



Once Jan committed herself to this task, the questions started coming to Jan fast and furious. Was Obama destined for even greater things in this world? Was Obama the chosen one to lead the One-World Government, the New World Order? And, most importantly, did Jan just witness the revealing of the man of sin, the Anti-Christ, President Barack Hussein Obama to those watching for the Lord’s return (but not yet revealed to the rest of the world, this being the first of the two separate reveals)? If so, how much longer did the Church have on this earth before being called home now that the two pre-requisites for the Rapture as outlined in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 were now fulfilled?

Jan instinctively knew that time was running out. After all, the church had already fallen away and now the man of sin had “most likely” just been revealed. But “most likely” wasn’t good enough. Jan had to be sure. First thing to do was to find out whether the timing of the rise of Obama, as the possible Anti-Christ, made sense. After much scouring on the web, she found hints and clues pointing towards this being the generation, but surely there must be solid mathematical arguments for this. Jan found a very thorough analysis at the following link:

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1214.htm



This article outlined, using solid Scriptural foundation, combined with logical mathematical analysis, that the reign of the Anti-Christ would END on the Day of Atonement 2015, September 23, 2015, with a probability of 6,899,999,999 out of 6.9 billion. She double checked the calculations and agreed with MathMan. Perfect, we have an end point for the Anti-Christ’s Satanic reign ON Day of Atonement, 2015. Her stomach dropped. Subtracting 7 years from September 23, 2015 engulfed the entire presidency of Obama. She refused to give into the feelings of nausea, and instead continued to press forward with her quest.



However, she knew that there was no peace treaty made with Israel and the world, so this time still didn’t make sense to her. PERHAPS she was wrong about Obama after all. What EXACTLY did the Bible say about this peace treaty? She knew the exact verse of Scripture that this entire theory of a peace treaty was based on:



Daniel 9:27 states “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate”.

Jan’s heart dropped. Where did the Bible say anything about a covenant ever having to be a peace treaty? She wondered why she hadn’t noticed this before instead of simply believing the experts without double checking against Scripture. Searching her memory, she realized that a covenant had no precedent in the Bible as referring to a peace treaty of any kind. Not only that, but where did Daniel 9:27, or anywhere else in the Bible for that matter, say anything about Israel being involved in a peace treaty brokered by the Anti-Christ? The name “Israel” isn’t even used in this verse, just the words, “with many”. Last time she checked, “many” didn’t HAVE to mean Israel AND the rest of the world, but merely “many”, as in many people of the world. She shook her head once again at the realization and reiterated, “Israel isn’t even mentioned in this verse. Why had I never noticed this before? Now if, instead, God had said, “And he shall arrange for peace between Israel and many for one week”, that would be a different story, but that is not what God said through His angel, Gabriel. Alright, no Scripture has been contradicted with the lack of peace treaty”. Jan then reassured herself, “Therefore, I must press on”.



“But wait!!”, Jan thought, “If we are in the final week, we should have been Raptured already!!” Then Jan remembered a post she had read on Five Doves earlier that day that outlined why the 7th Chapter of John provided a perfect example of Jesus not showing up exactly when every one thought He should show up. Indeed, the timing of the Lord’s announced arrival, in the “midst” of the “week” instead of at the beginning of the “week”, seemed to fit perfectly:

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman127.htm

Still unsure of herself, Jan excitedly sought her friend Jamee for advice. She showed Jamee all the mathematical proof and the indisputable evidence pointing towards the Day of Atonement, 2015, and was surprised at the immediate discouragement she received from Jamee. Jamee simply couldn’t comprehend the year 2015 as making sense, despite overwhelming mathematical proof, as Jamee had been told otherwise (first come, first serve). Sadly, Jan realized from her friend’s reaction that there would be MANY out there that were so misinformed by well-meaning, but incorrect, prophecy interpretations that WERE now considered facts. They simply wouldn’t be able to see the Progressive Revelation taking place, right in front of their very eyes.



Now reasonably convinced that the world could already be in the final 7 years without God’s wrath beginning and without a need for a peace treaty, Jan opened up a blank spreadsheet and started typing in dates and formulas. After independently verifying MathMan’s calculations for a second time (which everyone should do), Jan entered in September 23, 2015, the Day of Atonement 2015, into her spreadsheet. In another cell, she referenced this date, and subtracted off EXACTLY 2520 days, a prophetic week as defined in Daniel. When she pressed enter, the date of October 29, 2008 popped up. Hmm, nothing seemed special about that date at all when it came to now the most powerful man on the planet.



Jan excused herself to Jamee and phoned her supervisor Ed and asked him what Obama had been up to on October 29, 2008. Ed informed her that he had addressed over 33 million people for 30 minutes that day with a speech televised in the USA and replayed around the world. Organized as ever, Ed sent her a link with the exact words spoken by Obama on that day:

http://www.thefinal7yearsareherenow.com/docs/documents/2ko03ayw.html



Jan looked through the transcript and became extremely distraught. Was God’s Word being fulfilled once again in a way that none of the experts foresaw, exactly the same thing that happened in His First Coming? Jan showed Jamee the transcript, BUT Jamee once again ridiculed her, that God would never fulfill His Word with something as mundane as a 30- minute infomercial. Jan reminded Jamee that this has happened before MANY times in the Bible. She then reminded Jan that Jesus Himself had been born in a mundane manger of all places. Again, God doesn’t always do what we expect!! Undeterred at Jamee’s closed-mindedness, Jan started quoting various critical parts of Obama’s October 29, 2008 speech, praying that Jamee’s eyes would be opened:



“After decades of broken politics in Washington, eight years of failed policies from George Bush, and twenty-one months of a campaign that has taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California; we are one week away from change in America. In one week, you can turn the page on policies that have put the greed and irresponsibility of Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street. In one week, you can choose policies that invest in our middle-class, create new jobs, and grow this economy from the bottom-up so that everyone has a chance to succeed; from the CEO to the secretary and the janitor; from the factory owner to the men and women who work on its floor. In one week, you can put an end to the politics that would divide a nation just to win an election; that tries to pit region against region, city against town, Republican against Democrat; that asks us to fear at a time when we need hope. In one week, at this defining moment in history, you can give this country the change we need.



I believed that Democrats and Republicans and Americans of every political stripe were hungry for new ideas, new leadership, and a new kind of politics – one that favors common sense over ideology; one that focuses on those values and ideals we hold in common as Americans. Most of all, I believed in your ability to make change happen. And I was convinced that when we come together, our voices are more powerful than the most entrenched lobbyists, or the most vicious political attacks, or the full force of a status quo in Washington that wants to keep things just the way they are. That’s how we’ll change this country – with your help. And that’s why we can’t afford to slow down, sit back, or let up for one day, one minute, or one second in this last week. Not now. Not when so much is at stake. We can’t afford four more years of the tired, old theory that says we should give more to billionaires and big corporations and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else. That’s the failed theory that got us into this mess. It hasn’t worked, and it’s time for change. That’s why I’m running for President of the United States. And when it comes to the issue of taxes, saying that John McCain is running for a third Bush term isn’t being fair to George W. Bush. That’s not change.



Change is a middle class tax cut for 95% of workers and their families. Change is eliminating income taxes for seniors making under $50,000 and giving homeowners and working parents more of a break. Change is eliminating capital gains taxes for the small businesses that are the engine of job-creation in this country. That’s what I want to do. That’s what change is. The fact is, there’s only one candidate with a plan that could eventually raise taxes on millions of middle class families, and it isn’t me. It’s my opponent, who’d make you pay taxes on your health care benefits for the first time ever. I can take one more week of John McCain’s attacks, but this country can’t take four more years of the same old politics and the same failed policies. It’s time for something new. That’s the change we need. I ask you to believe – not just in my ability to bring about change, but in yours.



I know this change is possible. That’s what this election is about. That is the choice we face right now. Don’t believe for a second this election is over. Don’t think for a minute that power concedes. We have to work like our future depends on it in this last week, because it does. In one week, we can choose an economy that rewards work and creates new jobs and fuels prosperity from the bottom-up. In one week, we can choose to invest in health care for our families, and education for our kids, and renewable energy for our future. In one week, we can choose hope over fear, unity over division, the promise of change over the power of the status quo. In one week, we can come together as one nation, and one people, and once more choose our better history. That’s what’s at stake. That’s what we’re fighting for. And if, in this last week, you will knock on some doors for me, and make some calls for me, and talk to your neighbors, and convince your friends; if you will stand with me, and fight with me, and give me your vote
, then I promise you this – we will not just win Pennsylvania, we will not just win this election, but together, we will change this country and we will change the world.”

Over a dozen times, Obama mentioned changing the world in a week!! He even said the words, “in this last week” twice!! Was this God’s subtle message to His watchers that we are indeed “in this last week”, once again using bad for good? Do we not think God could be clever enough to reference this speech in Daniel 9:27, in a tongue-in-cheek manner? Could Daniel 9:27 not be fulfilled in two or three different ways at the same time, this simply being one of them, all of them aligning in synch and at the perfect time? Are there not MANY examples of multiple PERFECT fulfillments of a single prophecy that have already taken place, showing that there is truly no limit to how great our God is?



Jan recalled that no presidential candidate had EVER made such an address to such a huge audience, focusing on change in a week, in all of history. As such, the chances of Obama’s speech being timed so perfectly with the Day of Atonement 2015 can be rounded WAY down to two days (since Jewish days start the day before) out of the time since Jerusalem was first retaken on June 7, 1967 to October 29, 2008, summarized as:



CHANCES OF FACT 1 (timing of “one week” speech) BEING RANDOM: 2 out of 15,120 (0.01%)



Despite the evidence Jan presented to Jamee, including the PERFECT timing of Obama’s speech in the timeline, Jamee simply had enough of listening to anything that would dare contradict her set way of thinking and stormed out of the room without so much as a goodbye. Jan’s mouth dropped and tears filled her eyes. Somehow, Jan knew that Jamee would not be the last stubborn person she would run into. Thankfully, the Lord strengthened her with the Holy Spirit and told her to continue with her quest despite the opposition. Now she knew how Jeremiah must have felt when everyone ignored his repeated warnings.



She had so much wanted to mention to Jamee that October 29, 2008 was EXACTLY 42 years x 360 days from June 7, 1967, but it was too late. Jamee had stopped listening almost from the first sentence she spoke and had now stormed off. Jan felt this was very significant as number 42 is considered by Bible numerologists to be the number of Israel's oppression AND the Lord's Advent to earth; both His first and Second Coming.



Moving on, Jan decided to investigate whether there were any signs in the sky that would indicate that October 29, 2008 was a special date. Again, Jan searched her trusted websites and came across this fascinating discovery by Kevin Heckle:



http://www.thefinal7yearsareherenow.com/docs/documents/798cuzyi.html

Highlights on this exciting discovery are outlined as follows:

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Moving on, Jan decided to investigate whether there were any signs in the sky that would indicate that October 29, 2008 was a special date. Again, Jan searched her trusted websites and came across this fascinating discovery by Kevin Heckle:



http://www.thefinal7yearsareherenow.com/docs/documents/798cuzyi.html

Highlights on this exciting discovery are outlined as follows:

“Kevin Heckle's latest astronomical discoveries of the signs in the Book of Revelation, Chapter 12, have shown CONCLUSIVELY that Barack Hussein Obama was revealed as the Antichrist on Oct. 29, 2008, when he confirmed the covenant with millions and millions of people, thereby confirming his platform, his campaign promises, his covenant, with the people, to CHANGE THE WORLD. The word that Kevin used was "astonished", when he made this discovery. He was not looking for this date. He did not go into his search, for the revealing of the Beast of the Sea, using Revelation 12 and Biblical astronomy, with any agenda, or any date in mind. His search spanned FORTY YEARS (a very Biblical number), from 1988 to 2028. There was ONLY ONE DATE IN THIS FORTY-YEAR SPAN WHERE THE ASTRONOMICAL SIGNS WERE IN THE RIGHT POSITION TO REVEAL THE BEAST OF THE SEA, OR THE ANTICHRIST!!! THAT DATE WAS OCT. 29, 2008!!! What are the odds that this was a coincidental discovery? This forty-year time span consists of 14,600 days. So the odds that this is the correct date, and, therefore, the correct date for the 1st day of the 70th Week of Daniel, are 14,600 to 1. It gets even better. NOW THE LORD IS TRYING TO LEAVE NO DOUBT IN ANYONE'S MIND. Something of this magnitude, God makes it as plain as the nose on your face.



At EXACTLY 8:00 p.m., EDT, on the evening of Oct. 29, 2008, the leading Antichrist candidate went on several TV networks…Kevin Heckle's amazing and awe-inspiring recent astronomical discovery, which astonished him, not only gives us the day that the Antichrist was revealed, and it not only gives us the hour that the Antichrist was revealed, it gives us the EXACT MINUTE THAT THE ANTICHRIST, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, WAS REVEALED. According to Kevin, this astronomical alignment in Revelation 12, that brings forth the Beast of the Sea, took place at EXACTLY 8:00 P.M., EDT, ON OCT. 29, 2008, THE EXACT SAME MINUTE THAT OBAMA TOOK THE PLATFORM TO CONFIRM HIS COVENANT, OR PROMISES WITH THE PEOPLE. One week later, the people confirmed his covenant, by electing Obama as President of the U.S. In this forty-year span, that comprised Kevin's search, there are 21,024,000 minutes. ONLY ONE DAY, ONLY ONE HOUR, AND ONLY ONE MINUTE are the astronomical signs in place to fulfill the sign of Revelation, Chapter 12, the revealing of the Beast of the Sea, or the Antichrist. So, the odds that Obama confirmed the covenant with many of Dan. 9:27 are 21,024,000 to one.”



CHANCES OF FACT 2 (stars aligning) BEING RANDOM: 1 out of 21,024,000 (0.000005%)



Even though the proof was already overwhelming to Jan in the first two facts discovered, the word Jubilee kept tugging at her heart. She instinctively knew that this time period could be a further code to confirm this timing made sense. She took out her Bible and discovered that Jubilee cycles are 49 Years each, while Sabbatical cycles are 7 Years each. It dawned on Jan that it was very reasonable, and indeed should be anticipated, that Jesus will return at the very end of one or both of these cycles. Not only that, but she discovered, from a variety of respected authors, that there were extremely compelling and conclusive evidence to support the Fall of 2015 as being AT THE END OF A SABBATICAL AND A JUBILEE CYCLE!!! She made a list of these very, very astute Bible Prophecy scholars that agreed with this theory, including J.R. Church, Bonnie Gaunt, Ted Porter and others, all agreeing with the premise that the Fall of 2015 is the end of a 49-year Jubilee Cycle, just in case someone asked her to name names.

Jan suddenly became animated with passion. Yes, it was all falling together now. The Fall of 2015 is the year of Jubilee. Therefore, it is the year that ALL DEBTS are forgiven. Therefore, it is the year when ALL LAND is restored to its rightful owner. Therefore, it is the year of the coronation of the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. Therefore, it is the day when ALL CAPTIVES are set free. No other year, not 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, etc., fits as the start of either a Sabbatical cycle or a Jubilee cycle. 2015 does BOTH!! Sadly, Jan had not studied much about the Jubilee Year in the past and what it meant for Israel, but now she knew she would both study and recommend it more in the future to others. Jan realized that this was a point that is hardly ever mentioned by most scholars and yet is absolutely critical to our understanding of the Lord’s timing.

The dates all aligned, and not just at the start of a brand new Jubilee cycle, but on the very day of the Feast of Atonement!!! “Of course”, Jan exclaimed out loud without realizing it, “JESUS IS THE ATONEMENT FOR SIN!!! The ten days of Awe and Repentence, which will start on Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015, will CULMINATE ON THE CORONATION DAY FOR KING JESUS!!! Jesus cannot Return on Feast of Trumpets, as the Jews and the surviving population on Earth (who have not taken the Mark of the Beast) will be allowed these FINAL TEN DAYS OF REPENTANCE, for self-examination, to see which side they are on, Christ or the Antichrist. SADLY, those who took the Mark of the Beast would have already made an irrevocable choice and would have already been assigned to hell (if you missed the Rapture and are now reading this, please don’t be one of them).



These 10 days of AWE will be a time of deep self-reflection, a time for one to examine their own heart, to try to get close to God, to try to ATONE for their sins. Jesus CANNOT END THE GREAT TRIBULATION until He has given all people left on Earth that have not taken the Mark of the Beast one last chance to REPENT. What better, and more appropriate, time to do this than during the 10 day of AWE AND REPENTANCE.

Jan excitedly continued her thoughts, “Could it be that Jesus will RETURN to earth on Feast of Trumpets, but WILL NOT TOUCH DOWN ON EARTH UNTIL 10 DAYS LATER WHEN HE TOUCHES DOWN ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES, at the eastern gate? Indeed, could Jesus not, while riding His White Horse, and ten thousands of saints with Him, do this from the air, not the ground, just outside of Jerusalem? During this time, the Battle of Armageddon could take place and could be a 10-day Battle or a 1-day Battle (although shorter seems more logical). Could it all CULMINATE WHEN JESUS TOUCHES DOWN TO EARTH FOR THE 1ST TIME IN 2000 YEARS, ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES, TO BE CROWNED KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, ON THE FEAST DAY WHEN THE MESSIAH IS SUPPOSED TO BE CROWNED, FEAST OF ATONEMENT, SEPT. 23, 2015??!!!!!!”



Jan literally slumped to the floor in exhaustion. This had been a stressful and exhilarating week for Jan and she could barely take any more. Now then, was there any sign from God that may have indicated that the final Sabbatical (7 year) cycle had started seven years earlier, perhaps giving some sort of warning that the Anti-Christ was about to confirm the covenant with the many? She looked for clues and didn’t have to wait long. There, in front of her eyes, was an article specifically on the prophetic ramifications of the 777.7 point drop in the DOW on September 29, 2008. September 29, 2008 was not only the Feast of Trumpets no less but was EXACTLY 30 days prior to Obama’s speech, BOTH taking place on a new moon: In addition, it represented the very beginning of the last Sabbatical (7 year) cycle, ending the Jubilee (49 year) cycle!!



http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1213.htm



Such a point drop in the DOW was unprecedented and indeed remains as the GREATEST point drop in the history of the DOW, the most watched stock index in the world, residing in the very country Obama was to soon take leadership of. While the odds of this happening with such a prophetic point drop total (AND 7% decrease to boot) is ASTRONOMICAL (probably several billion to one), Jan wanted to be very conservative in order to minimize opposition to her calculations:



CHANCES OF FACT 3 (Trumpets point drop of 777.7) BEING RANDOM: 1 out of 1,000,000 (0.0001%)



Jan again became exhausted. She did not feel led to include any more figures than what she had already included. Jan knew she could have included MANY more excellent articles from the Five Doves main page undeniably pointing towards President Obama as being the Anti-Christ, but decided against it. Jan had enough proof with the three facts she had concentrated on and did not want to overwhelm those she wanted to discuss this with, summarizing these facts as follows:

CHANCES OF FACT 1 (timing of “one week” speech) BEING RANDOM: 2 out of 15,120 (0.01%)

CHANCES OF FACT 2 (stars aligning TO REVEAL THE BEAST OF THE SEA, IN REVELATION 12, RIGHT TO THE MINUTE) BEING RANDOM: 1 out of 21,024,000 (0.000005%)

CHANCES OF FACT 3 (Trumpets point drop of 777.7) BEING RANDOM: 1 out of 1,000,000 (0.0001%)

Combined, this works out to (2 x 1 x 1) out of (15,120 x 21,024,000 x 1,000,000) or 2 out of 317,882,880,000,000,000 or 1 out of 158,941,440,000,000,000, rounded down to 1 out of 150 million trillion! Jan questioned, with these kinds of odds, how could anyone deny that President Obama was the Anti-Christ, sent at the exact time to fulfill the season spoken of by the Lord long ago?

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From the above calculations, it is overwhelmingly obvious that the Lord Himself is now allowing us to see that President Obama is indeed the Anti-Christ. Daniel was told by the Angel Gabriel that many things would not be revealed until “the time of the end”. We are now there! EXACTLY 2520 days prior to September 23, 2015 lands on October 29, 2008. Right in between, EXACTLY 1260 days prior to September 23, 2015, lands on April 11, 2012. This, therefore, means that April 11, 2012, will be the beginning of the 1260-day Great Tribulation and the day that President Obama becomes possessed by Satan himself. However, the absolutely joyous news is that the Church will be Raptured before the Lord’s wrath begins, or the Anti-Christ’s persecution begins.

Please note that the above three facts as outlined were not meant to be an all-inclusive list of reasons why Obama is the Anti-Christ. Indeed, just some of the MANY other examples that could have been included, but were not for space reasons, include:

Henry Kissinger announcing several times that President Obama is the chosen one of the Illuminati to lead the New World Order
President Obama showing himself to be a counterfeit Christian, exactly as expected
President Obama’s love and support for Islam becoming more and more obvious
President Obama, ever the chameleon, being also a champion of Communist principles
President Obama recently “changing the times” by lighting the Hanukkah candles all at once and 12 days early
And who can forget when President Obama had the cross covered up at a Christian university for a speech
President Obama isolating Israel, time and time again, with inflammatory speeches, including a specific speech about returning to the 1967 lines (meaning the splitting of Jerusalem, the apple of God’s eye)
President Obama purposely ignoring PM of Israel Netanyahu during his visit to the White House (the PM dined alone while Obama dined in a different location with his family)

Indeed, President Obama is so deplorable that I am positive that each of the Five Dove readers could probably list his own top ten reasons not listed above. All I ask is for you to search your heart and forget what prophecy experts have misinformed you about the Anti-Christ being a homosexual, being from the Roman Empire, etc. (the list of misinterpretations are long). Instead, allow the Holy Spirit to minister to you on this and search the Scriptures to see what they ACTUALLY say. Don’t rely on any expert (or me for that matter). Many simply have built on the misinterpretations they themselves have been taught. In conclusion, the mathematical evidence is simply too overwhelming to believe anyone else but what God has to say in His Word!!

A WORD OF CAUTION: PLEASE always remember that the Lord COMMANDS each of us too continue to occupy and behave responsibly until the very day that the door of the ark is slammed shut. As such, please don’t quit your job, please continue to provide for your family, please continue to plan that family trip and do all the other things the Lord wants us to do until He orders the Trumpet blown to take us Home. Always remember, we serve as an example that points towards the light of the Lord, not by what we say, but by what we do and who we are. In a nutshell, please don’t do anything crazy even though you know the time is short. In contrast, NOW is the time to witness to that person you have been meaning to. NOW is the time to draw as close to the Lord as you can. NOW is the time to live your life for Him. NOW is the time to pray that you are counted worthy to escape all of these things. If you aren’t already doing this, these things may not be easy to get back on track with, but you will be VERY glad you did. The Lord guarantees it!!


Urgent note to the unsaved: If someone handed you a gun and told you to play a game of Russian roulette, would you? Of course not. You wouldn't want to take even a 1 out of 6 chance of ending your life, which, compared to eternity, is like vapor. And yet you are currently willing to take a much greater risk with your soul, your spirit that lasts forever without end. Where are you planning to be when you die? There are only two alternatives. Eternal torture in hell, separated from Jesus as you wished. OR with Jesus in heaven, a paradise beyond imagination. It's so simple - acknowledge you are a sinner, that you can't possibly reconcile your sinful nature with God on your own and that Jesus, and only Jesus, died for your sins. Acknowledge that He was and is the Perfect Sacrifice needed to reconcile you with the Father and that He has risen once again. Now please, don't expect fireworks. Being saved is not a feeling, it’s a process. Don't expect thunder or lightning or even to feel different at all right away. Please don't think that you will have to "give up" anything to follow Jesus, just focus on Him and nothing that happens later on or changes that you will eventually want to make will seem like a sacrifice at all. Indeed, no life is whole unless you are living for Jesus - just give it time. As a matter of fact, you can even keep your prayer asking for this as a secret from the person who sent you this analysis. After all, you certainly don't want to give them the satisfaction that they've been right about Jesus after all of these years. Just whatever you do, don't say, "sounds good, but perhaps later". Do it NOW!! Jesus promises you that you will never regret your decision to follow Him, but you definitely will eternally regret it if you don't.



Ybic, MathMan



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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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Re: "Probability Obama is the Anti-Christ is 150 million TRILLION to one!!"

Very interesting statistics...I would never know how to verify all this, so this is one post I will take at face-value, but retain some objectivity. I tend to be more and more convinced that BHO is a very good candidate for the AC. Add this latest speech to the list of good reasons:

Obama defends Israel policy in speech to Jewish group

The ecstatic response from the Jewish audience, that was previously tending to be more suspicious of the POTUS' support of the state of Israel was telling, to say the least!

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1221.htm

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MathMan (21 Dec 2011)
"To Josua: Timing of our posts on the perfection of the 2008 - 2015 timeline and Kevin Heckle's astronomy on Obama as the Anti-Christ"


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Dear Josua & Doves,



I must admit, the timing of your post as linked below, when viewed in conjunction with my post on the exact same day, seems too coincidental to simply be a coincidence:


http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/josua1220.htm



The critical conclusion in your post (as I saw it) is quoted as follows:



“Ron Reese just recently pointed me to Kevin Heckles posts with amazing astronomic signs regarding Obamas birthday and his "covenant with many for one week":



http://www.fivedoves.com/ac/kevinh1212.htm



http://www.fivedoves.com/ac/kevinh1214.htm



For me this was the ultimate and FINAL proof about Obama and the 2015 timeline. I could not believe that this info is available since 2009 and I have missed it...! If you still have the slightest doubt about Obama and the 2015 Timeline, you MUST read this!”



You may have noticed that, on the exact same day you posted this, I posted the following article that came to the identical conclusion as you, where I calculated that the probability Obama is the Anti-Christ is 150 million TRILLION to one and included Kevin Heckle’s discoveries in this post!!



http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1220.htm



This was a follow up to an earlier post on Five Doves that had already concluded that the probability of the 2008 to 2015 timeline being correct was 6,899,999,999 to 6.9 billion:



http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1214.htm


What I also found incredibly ironic was that I had actually regretted excluding these two links to Kevin’s material that you had included after I had already sent the post in to Five Doves. But behold, there they are, posted on Five Doves (thanks to you), on the EXACT day that I posted the odds that Obama is the Anti-Christ referencing this excellent work!! Surely our Lord works in mysterious ways that we both “just happened” to post articles with essentially identical conclusions on the exact same day using similar content to get to that conclusion without knowing that the other was going to do so.



God bless you and all of the Doves.



YbiC, MathMan




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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/nando1224.htm

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"Where are we in time concerning the return of Christ and the Rapture? Comment to Math Man article"

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Dec 23, 2011 Where are we in time concerning the return of Christ and the Rapture?
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If all of Math Man’s assumptions and calculations are correct then it means that we are well into the Tribulations. I have my objections that I expressed in an article yesterday about this timing. There are simply to many factors that must be fulfilled and that do not logically fit into those calculations.

Among the factors are the two witnesses and the 1/4 of humanity killed in the first four seals, plus all the earthquakes and disasters that happen in the seals. If each of the 7 seals, trumpets and cups of wrath were given equal time values the middle would be at the fourth trumpet, The witnesses are killed on the 6th trumpet after 1260 days of testimony. The sixth trumpet is close to the 4th but it implies that the two halves are about equal in the time allotted for each of the three seven’s of judgment.

We must look at the book of Revelation as well as the other books of the end time prophecies for timelines. Only the real timeline will work all the prophecies together in a perfect synchronicity of time and events.

Personally I believe it is all beyond the capabilities of any human to synchronize and take into account all that is pertinent and disregard all that is not.

Nevertheless your search is worthy of praise from us watchers and it confirms the unmistakable fact that Barack Hussein Obama is the Antichrist. This alone anchors our time to the period of the end times and the coming Rapture of the church.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1223.htm




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