Thanks Steven for this video,

Just sharing that Pre-Trib view is not a LIE if we define 'Tribulation' to be 'Wrath' of God.


Using scripture to define scripture, we can still lead to many different senarios too if we define scripture with certain or other interpretations.

PLS NOTE: Every WORD [Those, Tribulation, Wrath, Day, Affliction, Great, etc] has multiple meanings and Day of the Lord could be ONE DAY EVENT and NEED not be LIMITED to JUST ONE EVENT.
There is POSSIBLY different TIMINGS and could FULFILL in MULTIPLE situations.

This is the reason why 2000years ago... Jews rejected Christ because the scripture clearly DEFINED MESSIAH as KING, SAVIOUR, LORD which could only be fulfilled FULLY when CHRIST comes a 2nd TIME.

We do not want to be caught in the SAME situation and so we are open to ALL Teachings.

Pls see below earlier post to open up ourselves to the scriptures which could be defined in other ways using scripture.
Different Authors who used the Same WORD in Scripture could still lead to different view or different angle of the WORD.

For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3330765498&frmid=8549&msgid=879776&cmd=show

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additional comments for all who are still supporting Pre-trib view...

1)Solar&Lunar Eclipses marked the end of 2000year Tribulation of Church[Leah]

2008,2009,2010 Total solar Eclipses and 2011 Total Lunar Eclipses and so many asteroids in this year are truly indicating 'tribulation of those days'...2000years[360days] persecutions and afflictions days are indeed being ended
and Christ is ready to Rapture us imminently soon with Heaven Shaking 6th Seal event.

2) 6th Seal Event is not the FINAL YEAR of Great Tribulation...

The 6th seal Heaven and Earth shaking EVENT still allows mankind to exist for 7year period because according to 7th seal...7trumpets are after 7th seal...

3) Pre-Trib should be re-phrased as Pre-Great Trib as suggested by Ron Reese.

Pre-Great[7shortened]Tribulation Rapture is more appropriate term for use.

4) Satan's wrath is 7shortened years?

The time of Rapture could be same DAY satan being thrown out.

So satan could have 7shortened year period.
So Church[Leah] in Heaven for 7DAY feast.

Satan wroth with remnant and Israel[Rachel] for 7shortened years...

8) LAWLESSNESS for 7shortened years and meaning HOLYSPIRIT not around and so 2 WITNESSES has to be sent down..

2 Witnesses have to come because God required at least 2 witnesses if Church is gone...

So this period is AFTER the 2000year-Tribulation-period[meaning Church Grace Period ended] and so satan allowed to overcome those without HolySpirit during this 'Great Tribulation' [LAWLESSNESS] which Israel and remnant of gentiles have to go through and many beheaded in midst of this Wrath of satan.

Then Abomination of Desolation or 1263.5th day or 1335days later another Rapture.

9) Gog/Magog War Prophecy would still require a 7year burning of weapons which needed to be addressed too.

Ezekiel 38/39's Prophecy for Gog/Magog War and burning of weapons for 7year period has not been fulfilled yet.

Just supporting Pre-Great Tribulation period although believing that we are in midst of Trib or even at the end of Church Age[Post-Trib].