Inspired by Gimel's email discussion and the WORD SPAN which struck me.

What fascinated me with this word SPAN is that this could be the KEY or REASON for so many DATEs being CONVINCINGLY PRESENTED by so MANY HOLYSPIRIT-Filled-Brothers(Sisters).

So why would the YEARs SPAN from 6BC to 1AD for the UNKNOWN AD[BC] YEAR which JESUS was BORN?

Could this SPAN of years be due to ROMAN AUC YEAR being UNKNOWN?

Could the ROMAN AUC YEAR which was based on City-of-Rome be INCONSISTENT and not 365.25day-per-year?

Could the ROMAN AUC YEAR be based on LUNAR 354.5day-per-year Calendar like the present-day Muslim Calendar?

Could this be the REASON why Julius Caesar decided to change their Calendar to Julian 365.25day-per-year in 709AUC?

However Julius Caesar died in 710AUC within 1year and so could not follow-up to ensure the full implementation and so ROMAN AUC YEARs were still widely use till 1278AUC which ended in 525AD?

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Let's use a scientific way to estimate the ROMAN AUC YEAR and how this could be the REASON for the SPAN of AD[BC] YEARS.

Simplified definition...

AD=Anno Domini {Year of the Lord[not after death]}, defined in 525AD
BC=Before Christ, defined by modern historian in unknown year?
{Note: BC years are before 1 AD and there is no 0AD[BC] in between}

For simplicity, use AD[BC] in this post to mean the Julian YEAR before 525AD.

Since 1278AUC was 525AD.
AD[BC] years are 365.25 or 365.2422 or 365.2419 day-per-year,
let's choose the easiest 365.25day-per-year as AD[BC] Years for estimation purpose
to see how ROMAN AUC YEARS SPAN for different LENGTH OF AD[BC] YEARS.

{PLS note that there is no conversion needed after 525AD...so NO SPAN needed for DATES after 525AD.}


Let us use 3 different SENARIOS to define the ROMAN AUC CALENDAR:-
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SENARIO A)
If ROMAN AUC YEAR is exactly the same as AD[BC] Year which is 365.25day-per-year too.

AD[BC] to AUC year conversion
= 365.25day-per-year / 365.25day-per-year
= 1
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SENARIO B)
If ROMAN AUC YEAR is Lunar Calendar [base only on MOON] and so 354.5day-per-year using the average value.

AD[BC] to AUC year conversion
= 365.25day-per-year / 354.5day-per-year
= 1.0303
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SENARIO C)
ROMAN AUC YEAR is INCONSISTENT and UNKNOWN so SPAN between SENARIO A) & SENARIO B)

SPAN = 1 to 1.0303
for 365.25day-per-year to 354.5day-per-year
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What is the SPAN for SENARIOs A),B)&C) of ROMAN AUC YEAR CALENDARS from 1AD to 525AD?

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There are 525AD[BC] - 1AD[BC] = 524 AD[BC] years
So how Many AUC years are there?

A) ROMAN AUC YEAR = 365.25day-per-year
So 524 AD[BC] years
= 524 AD[BC] Conversion to AUC years
= 524 x 1 AUC years
= 524 AUC years

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B) ROMAN AUC YEAR = 354.5day-per-year
So 524 AD[BC] years
= 524 AD[BC] Conversion to AUC years
= 524 x 1.0303 AUC years
= 539 AUC years

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C) SPAN of YEARS between 365.25 to 354.5 day-per-year
So 524 AD[BC] years
= SPAN from 524 x 1 AUC years to 524 x 1.0303 AUC Years
= SPAN from 524 AUC years to 539 AUC years

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The SPAN is 539-524=15 AUC years for 524 AD[BC] years.




What is the SPAN for SENARIOs A),B)&C) of ROMAN AUC YEAR CALENDARS from before 1AD to 400BC?

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There are 1AD[BC] - (-400AD[BC]) = 400 AD[BC] years since there is no 0AD[BC]
So how Many AUC years are there?

A) ROMAN AUC YEAR = 365.25day-per-year
So 400 AD[BC] years
= 400 AD[BC] Conversion to AUC years
= 400 x 1 AUC years
= 400 AUC years

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B) ROMAN AUC YEAR = 354.5day-per-year
So 400 AD[BC] years
= 400 AD[BC] Conversion to AUC years
= 400 x 1.0303 AUC years
= 412.12 AUC years

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C) SPAN of YEARS between 365.25 to 354.5 day-per-year
So 400 AD[BC] years
= SPAN from 400 x 1 AUC year to 400 x 1.0303 AUC Years
= SPAN from 400 AUC years to 412 AUC years

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The SPAN is 412-400=12 AUC years for 400 AD[BC] years.



What is the SPAN for SENARIOs A),B)&C) of ROMAN AUC YEAR CALENDARS 2000 AD[BC] years before 1AD?

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So how Many AUC years are there in 2000AD[BC] years?

A) ROMAN AUC YEAR = 365.25day-per-year
So 2000 AD[BC] years
= 2000 AD[BC] Conversion to AUC years
= 2000 x 1 AUC years
= 2000 AUC years

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B) ROMAN AUC YEAR = 354.5day-per-year
So 2000 AD[BC] years
= 2000 AD[BC] Conversion to AUC years
= 2000 x 1.0303 AUC years
= 2060.6 AUC years

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C) SPAN of YEARS between 365.25 to 354.5 day-per-year
So 2000 AD[BC] years
= SPAN from 2000 x 1 AUC year to 2000 x 1.0303 AUC Years
= SPAN from 2000 AUC years to 2060.6 AUC years

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The SPAN is 60 AUC years for 2000 AD[BC] years.


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What can we deduce from the ESTIMATION and SPAN of AD[BC] Years?

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1) There is NO SPAN after 525AD

2) There is a possible SPAN of 12years for 400 AD[BC] years.

3) There is a possible SPAN of 15years for 524 AD[BC] years.

4) There is a possible SPAN of 60years for 2000 AD[BC] years.

5) The more AD[BC] YEARS we estimated...the SPAN increases.

6) This SPAN of years contributed to the POSSIBLE UNCERTAINTY to DATE the YEAR before 525AD.

7) We have to take note of this SPAN in order to scientifically understand the KEY to the many ESTIMATIONs by MANY Theories is that ROMAN AUC YEAR is INCONSISTENT.

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Sorry for stumbling many with my previous posts.

Pray to God[YHWH] that with this FINDING, we could become more open to ALL ESTIMATIONS or DATE settings which could SPAN more and more.

Pray that we could therefore unite ALL as ONE BODY in CHRIST even if the DATEs SPAN before RAPTURE.

Thanks to Steven for this GREAT OPEN-MINDED FORUM and reminding patiently for few months regarding my errors.
Thanks to Gimel for this GREAT WORD 'SPAN' which opened up my mind.
Thanks to ALL for sharing and contributing together.

Thanks be to God[YHWH] for revealing more and more HIDDEN secrets and show greater TRUTHs to so MANY in these days.

Yes Mike, I agree with you that some inconsistency of years provided make the computation of the specific prophecy becomes relative uncertainty.

This also causes some "hot" discussion regarding the interpretation of Daniel 9, when it should begin and when it should end.
We have found that many of the calculation inherits errors and thus the power of prediction to the future event becomes questionable.
That's why some begin to question when it should end: 2015, 2017, 2018, 2021, 2027, 2030, 2036 or other years.
To pluck one theory needs a scrutiny examination of how the years should be counted. Mistakes in doing that will bring different year estimation. It is even more complicated when the different rapture theory itself involves in it.
So I guess, nobody is sure enough what is the right. I watched in a youtube of different opinion suggested to compute Daniel 9 prophecy because of Romans mistakes in Gregorial calendar where there is a shift in some years when they want to realign the years to match what the new findings at that time.

Thanks for agreeing Gimel

Regarding the SPAN of end of years 2015...till 2036...could it be also due to certain calculations based on the "UNCERTAIN" or "UNKNOWN" Year being REFERENCED 2000years ago?

It is even so difficult to define YEAR...

360day-per-year God's Calendar,
365.25or365.2422or365.2419day-per-year Julian-Gregorian-Calendar,
354.5day-per-year Lunar(only moon-based) Calendar,
365.2468day-per-year (Luni-solar-average)Hebrew Calendar,

or an unknown SHORTENed future YEAR?
back to 360day-per-year?
or 240day-per-year? one third shortened?
or still 360day-per-year but just the 'DAY' shortened?
or remains normal as calculated[estimated] currently?

Could the KEY be that all the SPAN of calculated YEARs be CONCURRENTLY fulfilled when the EARTH's ROTATION SPEED is 'KNOWN'...only after RAPTURE or 6th SEAL event?

Could there be multiple or many more parallel fulfilments?... or 70 levels of interpretations...or multiple meanings in each WORD of Daniel 9 to be fulfilled...?

Wow...exciting times and very fun to have 'hot discussion' or guess or speculate or even bet...better...predict...anticipate...