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"WHY WE KNOW WHEN JESUS WILL COME."


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WHY WE KNOW WHEN JESUS WILL COME.

Can Jesus come back at the Feast of Tabernacles this year? How about Hannukah?.....or even "at any moment?" Was His return always "imminent?" Is His return "imminent" even now ? When one talks about "His return," are they talking about in the air at the Resurrection/Rapture....or His Second Coming? And how does the timing of both relate to the time we are in?

Taking the easiest route first - His Second Coming - the bodily return of Jesus to the Earth to begin His Kingdom:

1) Could He have come before Israel was back in the Land? No. Israel had to be back in the Land for the 70th Week to commence.

2) Could He come at any old time since then? No. Other details had to transpire first, such as:

3) Israel had to have Jerusalem back in their hands.

4) But before they could get Jerusalem back in their hands, the Nation must necessarily have reached the age of accountability - which during Moses first generation of Israel as a Nation, was the age of 20 years. Was Israel 20 years old when they reunified Jerusalem? YES! Less than a month after turning 20, Israel reunified Jerusalem in the Six Day War - 1967.

5) Jesus said to the Jewish Leaders/the Sanhedrin before He was crucified: You shall not see me again until you shall say "Blessed is He Who comes in the name of the Lord." Luke 13:35 That indicates that the Sanhedrin would have to be in existence when He returns. The Sanhedrin was dispersed, as was the whole Jewish nation, into world exile after the Temple was destroyed in 70AD. Could Jesus have returned before the Sanhedrin was ever reconvened and present to make the prophetic announcement Jesus said they would? No. Is the Sanhedrin now in existence once again? Yes. Is this, then, a SIGN of the soon return of the Lord? Yes! WHEN did this sign appear? In 2004, four years after the pronouncement of the end of 6,000 years/6th day on the Hebrew calendar!......a mere four years into the 7th DAY/the Sabbath Day/the Lord's Day!....when He would take hold of the reins to bring in everlasting righteousness.

6) Could Jesus have returned before the generation "which would see all things fulfilled" is on the scene? No. In fact, that's an oxymoron; it's contradictory. All of the prophecies of Daniel & Revelation must first be fulfilled.

7) Jesus said in Matt. 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." He had just given them SIGNS to recognize the end of days. He said that generation which sees these things shall not pass till all of those things are fulfilled. What did He mean by "this generation?" He was comparing it to the FIRST GENERATION of the NATION of ISRAEL. When was the first generation of the Nation of Israel? When Moses led the Hebrews out of Egyptian slavery, into the Wilderness. Because of their rebellion against God after coming out of Egypt, God said that those who were upward of 20 years old WOULD PASS AWAY AND WOULD NOT ENTER THE PROMISED LAND. Comparing that to the(second) generation of the Nation of Israel (which had just turned 20 years old in 1967 when they reunified Jerusalem)....THIS is the generation Jesus spoke of that WOULD NOT PASS AWAY (as did the first generation of Israel) but would see all things fulfilled. They would go into the Promised Land, which is none other than the KINGDOM OF THE LORD and His Millennial Reign!

* Israel "born" 1948 to 1967 Reunification of Jerusalem = 20 years
* Generation that will not pass 1967 to 2007 = 40 years.
* Simply put, Israel had to be a nation for at least 60 years before Christ could ever come back to set up His Kingdom!

* Please note that 2007 was a Sabbath Year. The next Sabbath Cycle began in 2008 >>>Rosh HaShanah 2008-2009 - 1st year
Rosh HaShanah 2009-2010 - 2nd year
Rosh HaShanah 2010-2011 - 3rd year
Rosh HaShanah 2011-2012 - 4th year - Mid-Point 70th Week
Rosh HaShanah 2012-2013 - 5th year
Rosh HaShanah 2013-2014 - 6th year
Rosh HaShanah 2014-2015 - 7th year - Sabbath Year

The first year of this last Sabbath Cycle (2008-2009) began the LAST Week aka The 70th Week of Daniel.

Conclusively, the doctrine of Imminency of the Lord's Return with regard to His Second Coming is false. He could not (and can not) return until certain things were/are SET......thus the SET TIME / the APPOINTED TIME....which is now upon us.

BUT what about the doctrine of Imminency of the Lord's Return in the Air for the Resurrection/Rapture? Again, just like His Second Coming, it can not take place until an appointed time. The Lord cannot return in the Air until certain things happen.

The BIGGEST PROOF of this is found in The Advocacy of Christ......which many people only equate with Jesus as being our "Advocate with the Father" --- and they stop there. They don't understand WHY we need an advocate with the Father beyond the elementary, but important, reason that as human beings we will always continue to sin and when we do, Jesus is our Advocate in "defending our case" because we are covered by His Blood and therefore exonerated from the punishment of God's wrath which is eternal separation from Him. But there is a lot more to this than just that.

The scriptural evidence of The Advocacy of Christ is seen in Revelation 12:10: "...for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night." We see Satan still has access to God on His Throne in Heaven; and also that Satan accuses us "day & night" of the sins we commit. In other words, right now, today, October 14, 2011, Satan is still there before the Throne of God accusing.....and Jesus is still advocating/defending....but why ?

Because we are continually accused of the sins which we commit, Jesus, as our Advocate, is our legal spokesman, attorney, defender -which is the ROLE -- or better word is OFFICE, which He currently holds. His primary "Offices" are: Prophet, Priest, and King. He is the Mediator of the judicial and executive Power of God among His people, acting in the Name of Jehovah. The king is also judge.

He said "I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." Hebrews 13:5 That doesn't mean JUST that He/His Spirit is "always with us" spiritually. It also means that He will never leave us UN-REPRESENTED! Why will He NOT leave us un-represented? Because Jesus Christ is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Rev. 1:5 and A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. Proverbs 14:5

But WHY do we NEED an Advocate anyway? Hebrews 10:17 tells us our sins and iniquities will God remember no more. So who needs an Advocate/defender? The Accused need an Advocate! If there were no Accuser, there would be no need for an Advocate! But we need an Advocate because there is an Accuser who continually brings charges against us. If you are arrested for something you are not guilty of, you still need a legal defender, even if you have an iron clad alibi (the Blood of Jesus) because you would still have to present your case. But if no one accuses you, an Advocate is not necessary. If it weren't for the Accuser, Satan, Jesus would not have to defend us, but as long as the Accuser is bringing charges, Jesus is our Advocate before the Father. He is our faithful witness and intermediary.

But, when the Accuser is no longer able to accuse, there will no longer be a need for an Advocate.

So, now look at Revelation 12:7-10 which shows WHEN the Accuser will no longer be able to accuse? Answer> Revelation 12:7-10 - "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

Revelation 12 occurs in the "midst of the 70th Week" (which is the 4th year of the 70th Week.....2011-2012.) Satan will be cast out of Heaven to the Earth. He will partially give his God-granted authority to the antichrist which will empower the antichrist to GO FORTH and continue for 42 months. ( Next spring is not only in the midst of the 70th week but also just happens to be 42 months before the end of the 70th week in 2015!) When Satan is cast out of Heaven to the Earth and empowers the antichrist to "go forth", THAT is the opening of the First Seal. THEREFORE, it is in the midst of the 70th Week that the Accuser is no longer able to accuse!

Jesus could not leave the Throne of God while there was still an Accuser continually charging us with sin day & night. He promised not to leave us un-represented because no one else is qualified to be our Advocate. Just as there is no one else worthy to break the Seals and open the Scroll, there is also no one else worthy to be our Advocate. WHY? Because of His atoning sacrifice on our behalf. John 2:1 states "..and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world." The term propitiation means to appease, pacify, repair, remove, restore, and reconcile. All of these terms can be summarized in one word, "ATONEMENT." With Christ's FINAL ATONEMENT, sins were not just 'covered' by the Blood of Jesus...they were REMOVED, and therefore they do not exist before Him. The Old Testament blood sacrifices of bulls & goats served to teach "...almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." Hebrews 9:22...but they were of none effect. But the complete pardon/remission/removal/and forgiveness of sins was accomplished by the shed Blood of the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ, on the Cross. Our sins do not exist before God. We stand before Him as joint heirs with Jesus, and the Father will not reject us because He will not reject the sacrifice made by Christ. He sees us through the blood of Christ. Nevertheless, because we do sin and charges are brought against us, Jesus, our faithful witness, intermediary, and Advocate MUST stay in Heaven on the Throne at the Father's Right Hand....UNTIL the Accuser is no longer able to Accuse.

For those who say 'Jesus can do anything He wants anytime He wants to'....
NO HE CANT!!!! Jesus is the incarnation and manifestation of the Godhead bodily! Jesus IS GOD! And as God, He cannot do anything contrary or against His Nature! Jesus, cannot lie! And He cannot go against what He has stated in His written Word, which is the same as lying!! He does everything righteously, legally, orderly and in accordance with His own Authority. For instance: He isn't going to just rip open the Scroll and let everything happen at once! He will break each Seal one by one and allow the cause and effect and results to be completely fulfilled. By the same token, He said He wouldn't leave us un-represented and He won't. But, it will no longer be necessary for Jesus to remain in His Office of Advocacy/defender once the Accuser is no longer able to accuse; and He can finally leave the Throne Room to DESCEND FROM HEAVEN WITH A SHOUT! 1 Thessalonians 4:16....and the dead in Christ shall rise first (Resurrection) and we who are alive and remain (Rapture) will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the AIR!!!!!

The conclusion is this: Jesus's return in the Air for the Resurrection/Rapture is not going to happen until the Lord Himself descends from Heaven with a shout - and that won't happen until He issues the order for Michael the Archangel to begin the war for the casting out of Satan. When the Accuser is no longer accusing, Jesus will come. The timing is clearly laid out in Revelation 12....it is in the midst of the Week, the 4th year of the 70th Week, the year of Rosh HaShanah 2011 to Rosh Hashanah 2012.

SIDEBAR: "The Lord Himself shall descend"...etc. will happen AS SOON as He/Jesus is no longer needed as our Advocate! That will be when the WAR in Heaven
begins, because as it shows in Rev. 12:7: "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels..." The Dragon/Satan will himself be fighting and therefore not able to be accusing the brethren!
When this commences, Jesus will leave heaven, BEFORE Satan is actually cast down! Now just how long will this process be, we can not be dogmatic about it! BUT read the possibility of it on www.godstimeline.net > "The Pattern for the Resurrection/ Rapture". Check out the 3 charts in regard to the same title 3/4 of the way down! As you will see, Christ descends AS the war starts, but we all (dead in Christ and those who are alive) will be meeting Him in the air and on to Heaven (going up) as Satan is being cast to the earth (going down).

All of you who are looking for the Rapture now and are guessing at the next Feast or possibly the Feast after that, or that He can come "at any moment" will be continually disappointed unless you understand the timing factor above. The only "imminency" about being with the Lord is our own death. Other than that, God has a SET TIME - an APPOINTED TIME and it's almost upon us.

Now there is another sure-fire method which confirms that we are now in the 4th year/midst of the 70th Week. IT IS THE METHOD OF COUNTING! The reckoning of time was given to the Jews in a specific manner - the counting of time in Sabbath cycles!!!!!!

God said Israel was to be accountable to the land and it's sabbath upon entering the land of Israel, but they disregarded it for 490 years. So they were sent into Babylonian/Persian captivity for 10 successive sabbatical cycles, before being brought back into their land to start the next 70 weeks or 490 years!

And even though, the sabbatical years and cycles never stop, as in the captivity after the original 70 weeks were fulfilled, it began the "Times of the Gentiles" and as such, the Jews were not held accountable to the land, nor to the years of Jubilee!

The same is true for the completion of the 69th week of Daniel, the Messiah being cut off/killed, (but the sabbatical cycles kept rolling on). And while they awaited the start of the LAST WEEK -The 70th Week's Sabbatical Cycle (so that all that is written can be fulfilled) the Lord sent them into captivity into ALL nations! But this time it was not an exile for ignoring God's word concerning the land and it's ability to receive it's sabbatical rest, BUT for their unbelief in Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the only begotten Son of God!

And this is what and who, the 70th week is to be fulfilled to and for!
This is why the great tribulation is not for the "Church." It is for the Nation of Israel - God's own original Chosen People - to redeem them and to save all of Israel!

Since the reckoning of time was given to the Jews in the counting of time in sabbatical years, the question of WHEN did the 70th sabbatical week begin and why? needs to be answered in order to support and confirm the Timeline. I will offer that in the following post by that title. For more detailed written explanations and graphic charts of this time and timeline go to www.godstimeline.net

Until.....Sherry Vance


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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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