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"Bride or Friends to The Groom and Bride?"

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2011/jeans726.htm

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Jean Stepnoski (26 July 2011)
"Bride or Friends to The Groom and Bride?"


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Dear Doves,
The ancient Jewish Wedding Model deals with a period of 7, in the 7 days are the events at the wedding canopy (the chuppah), then the intimacy of the wedding chamber. After 7 days, the groom and his bride would emerge from their seclusion and join those dear to them for the joyous wedding supper. Let us suppose some arrive late, after 3-7 days, and want to be part of the bride group? Are they? No, they would be friends to the groom and bride and they are not allowed into the marriage chamber. The events as clearly planned are well underway and will not be delayed for the unprepared late comers. In making reference to the body of Messiah/ Christ, is there a difference between the bridal group and the tribulation saints?

The bridal group of the resurrected with The Blessed Hope would be the men and women and the wedding attendants of children. There is a distinction to be made. Not all "professing" Christians want be bride, be soon resurrected, and go to their Wedding of the Ages. There are many "lukewarm" who will not be part of the Blessed Hope. Who might they be, the later tribulation saints, along with the other converted thereof? To believe that the wedding events are delayed (including the Assessments and giving of Wedding Presents( Crowns) at the Bema) for the sake of the inclusion of the later tribulation saints, is questionable.


Would you delay your wedding events over a period of 7 (the 70th Week of Daniel) until 3 of 7 or later? The tribulation saints (martyrs) will not be the earlier group of the bride. The status in the Kingdom and the roles are not the same. Defer resurrection and others will have to wait for you? What is that?

It puts the emphasis on delay, insufficient preparation, wedding refusal, and beheading rather than on The Groom of Grooms, His Bride of the Ages, and the Wedding of the Ages, the Bema events, and the time of intimacy. Let us wait for the "lukewarm" who could have joined us but they did not want to when the hour had come? Make them the center of attention? Why? How much should we pity those who willingly chose to refuse The Blessed Hope? They will weep and mourn because they chose to make poor spiritual choices.

Does the bride want to turn her wedding into a disaster for the sake of THE INVITED who refused to show up at the necessary time? How can the "lukewarm" delude themselves? I will have another chance to make this turn out well and will wait a few years and keep the others waiting for my martyrdom, before they can proceed. WAIT for ME! As Miss Piggy said, "It's all about moi." No, dear doves, according to the ancient Jewish Wedding Model, it is all about the groom/ husband. It is all about THE BELOVED MASTER! It is here comes THE GROOM!


We are to desire to be part of The Blessed Hope, not to prefer to stay to be "earth dwellers" and beheaded! The beheaded in the "hour of trial" are not the Bride of Messiah/ Christ. These are individuals who could have taken Luke 21 and other promises of The Master seriously. They did not. These were not "accounted worthy" or "have the strength to stand before the son of man." Being part of The Blessed Hope to Paul meant being gifted with one or more Crowns (Wedding Presents). He taught, " let no one take away your crown" and he really meant it.

This means participation in The Blessed Hope, not the idea of a delay and a reprieve, with the necessity of beheading. If each of us has a choice of bride of The Lord or tribulation martyr friend, which would be preferable? The Groom of the Ages comes for His Bride. Bride or friend to the groom and bride are not the same relationship, or role, or Kingdom status. We hope to soon exclaim, Behold The Bridegroom Cometh!

With Love and Shalom,
Jean


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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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Re: "Bride or Friends to The Groom and Bride?"

This is a good point too that Jesus will not wait for those who love not His Appearing for the ceremony to start.

However even if we are waiting in heaven we would also be enjoying the feast days like when on earth whereby we would be busy welcoming people still arriving into heaven who have been travelling long distances and may not have arrived on time for the 1st day. Pls take note that even Jesus tarried in the feast of tabernacles before He appeared in the midst of the feast. see John7:2-14

There are 2 or more INCORRUPTIBLE(1Corinthians9:25) CROWNs?

1) CROWN OF GLORY AND HONOUR (see Hebrews2:7,9) :- JESUS CROWNED WITH GLORY AND HONOUR.

2) CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS(2Timothy4:8), REJOICING(1Thessalonians2:19) and GLORY(1Peter5:4) :- Given to Church of Philadelphia(Revelation3:11)

3) CROWN OF LIFE(James1:12 & Revelation2:10) :- Given to Church of Smyrna.



Could it be that ONLY the Church of Philadelphia would be given this special CROWN 'OF RIGHTEOUSNESS/REJOICING&GLORY' (see Revelation3:11) which is different from the CROWN OF LIFE(Revelation2:10) given to the Church of Smyrna 10days later?

Revelation:3:11: "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown."

Revelation:2:10: "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life."


Since there are 2 types of crowns which could be DOOR GIFTs, this CROWNs is possibly given by JESUS when HE receives the earlier CHURCH(batches) as it pleases HIM.

So JESUS will give those who waited for HIS Appearing this CROWN of 'RIGHTEOUSNESS,REJOICING&GLORY' and then 10days later give the CROWN of LIFE to the Church of Smyrna. Bear in mind that JESUS may not need to give 2 CROWNS because everyone has only 1 head and also the Crown of LIFE is different and not as GLORIOUS as the CROWN OF R/R/GLORY right?

It could be noted that all the tribulational saints are of the Church of Thyatira (thy atire?) to be killed and then Raptured before JESUS would REWARD them with power over the nations to rule with rod of iron and be given the morning star which is different from crowns.

Revelation:2:26-28: "And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star."

Maybe Both Church of Philadelphia and Church of Smyrna would receive this reward too right?
For he who has will be given and he has more...remember?

After that JESUS would reward all HIS Saints before coming back to earth to reign?

Revelation:4:11: "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

Revelation:5:12,13: "Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever."

Revelation:7:12b: "...Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen."


Oh OUR GOD OF GODS, KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS!
GLORY, HONOUR, MAJESTY, POWER, DOMINION, WISDOM, THANKSGIVING, MIGHT, RICHES & BLESSING FOREVER AND EVER be to OUR LORD & SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST!
AMEN!

Re: "Bride or Friends to The Groom and Bride?"

I believe life in heaven is very excited. The crowns are made beautifully and each person has different type of crowns. Maybe there will be only few classification of crowns but the detail of the crowns would make everybody's crown is uniquely identified for that person only. That's is mho.

Re: "Bride or Friends to The Groom and Bride?"

Great insights and inspirations Gimel!

Could it be that the Crown of R/R/G be for Kings and the Crown of Life for Priests?

Then this will be really interesting...

Different rulers(king or priest) of different countries will wear different designs? WOW God's creative juice at work for individuals who had very distinctively different DNAs,fingerprints,eye retinas, etc.

Different levels of rulers (Governors, Generals, etc) having different sub-categories?

Churches of Ephesus, Sardis, Pergamos & Laodicea have different kinds of rewards not mentioned yet.

WOW, what's done for Christ will LAST FOREVER!

AMEN!