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While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

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I feel there is something that didn't match up here ... but don't know what it is

This is just what I felt.

I believe that Gentiles and Jews are one in Yahshua under the new covenant made by YHWH through Yahshua His only Begotten Son.
Now, if this is the case, why do we have the rapture theory leaving the Jews in majority be left behind? This thought is very disturbing to me .... something didn't match up here ...

I felt something is not finished here if that is the scenario that will happen ....

The point I want to get out of thst is that Jews and Gentiles is one new man in Yahshua and all will be saved by His coming to rapture us.
However coming a difficulty, why we should put the Jews be left behind? Why YHWH has different plans for Jews and Gentiles. If Jews and Gentiles are one, the plan should be one. If Gentiles are plucked into the trunk then the plan applied to the trunk is the same plan applied to the Jews. You got my point?

How could be the same plant has two different plans?
Maybe it is not two different plans but one plan in two different time? How could be we differentiate the Bride of Yahshua as only Gentiles most of it and very little Jews How could we say the remnants of Jews if the Jews and Gentiles are taken first in the rapture?
Did you get my point again? I'm thinking about it and thinking about it hard....
It is like there is only one Messiah in two different time instead of two Messiah in two different time putting one Messiah in each time.
It is not likewise one bride of every entity of GOD but probably only one bride for all entities but processed at different time.
All are stil questions, and I don't know the answer yet .... Just raising this up for warm discussion, an open minded and ready to learn ....

Re: I feel there is something that didn't match up here ... but don't know what it is

Dear Gimel,

Regarding remnant saved...have you seen earlier post below...

mike
For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes



I believe only a remnant is Raptured.

Many Christians who called themselves Christians but never Believe in JESUS' NAME or never Believe that JESUS died for them are the most miserable of all...if JESUS NEVER KNEW THEM.

I Believe that All who are Waiting for HIS Appearing WILL BE RAPTURED!

I Believe that there will be NO RAPTURE yet for many True Believers who are not bothered with JESUS' 2nd Coming...they are not going to be Raptured with us yet...they will be Raptured 10days later or 1263.5days later or 1335days later...I don't know.

However, I Believe All True Believers Will be rewarded with Resurrected Bodies because Once Saved Always Saved.

Rapture is more of a Reward and there are Timings involved by God's Will.

Just as Enoch was Raptured First&Alone before many saints.

Just as Elijah was Raptured Alone and Elisha was left behind to serve...

Just as Jesus Ascended with Resurrected saints were Raptured and Apostles left behind to wait for HolySpirit 10days later.

So, Remnant Rapture is possible and then 10days later, 1263.5days later or 1335days later...another Rapture? I don't know.

I believe and hope that my family will be Raptured just like Noah&Lot's family.

Thank God for His Faithfulness, Mercy and Grace!


You may be right that there could be 2 different times but 1 Bride(church) of Christ.

Maybe Christ has 2 Brides? like Jacob's Leah and Rachel?

see earlier post...

http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3330765498&frmid=8549&msgid=872267&cmd=show

Why not possible that Jesus received the Church(Leah) as Bride then after 7years 'Jesus' Tribulation Period(Time of Jacob's Trouble) that Jesus receive Israel(Rachel) 144,000 + Gentiles remnant?

Good point.

I believe majority of Israel was cut-off to include the Gentile nations so that the Number of Israel is the SAME naturally.

Israelites who rejected Jesus like the Muslims are so many that God gave this SAME number to the Gentiles.

Romans:11:25b-36: "...that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26: And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28: As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29: For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30: For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31: Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32: For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
33: O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34: For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35: Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
36: For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen."


Lets say the Natural Branches with Leaves are 8billion...then God may have saved 7billion Gentiles and only 1billion Israelites.

7billion naturally born Israelites were cut-off...

Just my guess...

Re: I feel there is something that didn't match up here ... but don't know what it is
Re: I feel there is something that didn't match up here ... but don't know what it is

Just showing some verses in the bible that mentioned Jesus as the Root too...

Romans:11:16: "For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy[note that only Jesus is Holy], so are the branches."

Romans:11:17,18: "And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root[note: could mean both Israel and Jesus here] thee."

Romans:15:12: "And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he[note:A Root of Jesse is Jesus] that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him[note:A Root of Jesse is Jesus] shall the Gentiles trust."

Ephesians:3:17: "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted [in Jesus] and grounded in love,..."

Colossians:2:7: "Rooted and built up in him[Jesus], and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving."

Revelation:5:5: "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."

Revelation:22:16: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."