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John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

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John Tng (17 May 2011)
"The Rapture Date"

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Dear Doves,

I think I may have found the rapture date hidden in the Bible! Yes, the rapture date is hidden in the Bible, and the LORD Jesus has full knowledge of it and even planted the clues in His Word for us to search them out.

How can we be sure of these clues? We cannot! We can only guess at the date until we get lucky one day. I think I am lucky enough to have hit jackpot, but you decide. People will always question the motives of date setters. But consider this: If we can find incontrovertible evidence that the rapture date is foretold and coded into the Bible, imagine the impact this evidence will have on the people left behind after the rapture. They will then learn that there is such an event as the rapture and that its date has been fixed by God long ago. The antichrist will attempt to explain the rapture away, but with the compelling evidence to be presented in this article, he has to convince you that one plus one is not two.

If the rapture does not take place as predicted, I apologize first. But my main audience is not you. For you, the rapture cannot come soon enough -- any day in 2011 is fine. If I get the date wrong again this time, someone else will propose a new date and we remain watchful, for we are inveterate watchers.

With the caveat emptor out of the way, let me go straight to the rapture date. I believe the event will take place on May 24, 2011. I know this is not a wise thing to do since my proposed date is three days after the well-published rapture date on the internet. But I have to be true to what I have been shown, and I am not trying to ride on the coattail of a widely-publicised date.

I came across this date, May 24, through Randy Bullock, one of the original five doves. Randy believes firmly that in A.D. 33, Christ died on Apr 3, resurrected on Apr 5, and ascended to Heaven on May 14; ten days later the Holy Spirit came on Pentecost May 24.

In other words, if this is true, the bride will be raptured on the BIRTHDAY OF THE CHURCH.

But why May 24 this year?

The train of thought that led me to this date goes like this: I have been thinking, wouldn't it be cool if the rapture date were hidden in plain sight in the only two scriptures that record past raptures? The scripture that records the first raptured saint, Enoch, is found in Genesis 5:24, "And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him." Notice the date May 24, or 5-24, is written in plain sight as the chapter and verse numbers, 5:24.

Next, the rapture of Elijah is recorded in the Second Book of Kings 2:11, "And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." Notice that the year 2011 is hidden in the chapter and verse numbers: replace the colon separator with the digit 0 and 2:11 becomes 2011.

Is it this simple?

If the rapture really happens on the date 5-24-2011, isn't it a tad coincidental that the Bible records the only two raptured saints in two scriptures whose chapter and verse numbers, 5:24 and 2:11, point exactly to that date? Wouldn't that prove God is in the know?

After I made the connection between the rapture verses and the rapture date, something gnawed at me. Is the date significant on the Hebrew calendar? What if the year of the Crucifixion was not A.D. 33, wouldn't that invalidate May 24 as the birthday of the Church? In that case, why would God plan one of the most momentous events in His calendar on a date that has no significance whatsoever? Impossible!

For this reason, watchers the world over have been playing the guessing game on which is the true rapture feast. Will it fall on Pentecost, Trumpets or Tabernacles or even Tu B'Av or Chanukkah or some other significant feast days? Or will it fall on a relatively unknown Hebrew date which I have accidentally discovered?

Look up the Hebrew calendar and you will find that May 24 is Iyar 20 or the 20th day of the 2nd month of the ecclesiastical year. The Bible records this date in Numbers 10:11, "And it came to pass on the twentieth day of the second month, in the second year, that the cloud was taken up from off the tabernacle of the testimony." It doesn't take a lot of spiritual discernment to see that the rapture is concealed in the latter half of the verse.

Nonetheless, you must be having a lot of question marks right now on your head. Why Iyar 20? Why isn't it one of the seven major feasts? What is its significance for the Church? Friends, leave all these questions aside and first consider the testimony of Jesus. Out of curiosity, I wanted to know what other scriptures also contain the words 'cloud' and 'taken up' -- words pregnant with the notion of the rapture. I searched Biblewheel.com and found 7 verses:
All the Verses containing cloud AND taken AND up
Exo 40:36 And when the cloud was taken up from over the tabernacle, the children of Israel went onward in all their journeys:
Exo 40:37 But if the cloud were not taken up, then they journeyed not till the day that it was taken up.
Num 9:17 And when the cloud was taken up from the tabernacle, then after that the children of Israel journeyed: and in the place where the cloud abode, there the children of Israel pitched their tents.
Num 9:21 And so it was, when the cloud abode from even unto the morning, and that the cloud was taken up in the morning, then they journeyed: whether it was by day or by night that the cloud was taken up, they journeyed.
Num 9:22 Or whether it were two days, or a month, or a year, that the cloud tarried upon the tabernacle, remaining thereon, the children of Israel abode in their tents, and journeyed not: but when it was taken up, they journeyed.
Num 10:11 And it came to pass on the twentieth day of the second month, in the second year, that the cloud was taken up from off the tabernacle of the testimony.
Act 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Verse Count: 7

The 'Iyar 20' scripture, Numbers 10:11, turns out to be the last Old Testament verse that contains the words 'cloud' and 'taken up'; the next scripture the search returned is the ASCENSION OF JESUS ON THE DAY OF ASCENSION, Iyar 26, also in the month of Iyar!

By linking Iyar 20 and the Ascension of Jesus (the rapture of Jesus if you will), is the Holy Spirit hinting that the rapture will take place on a future Iyar 20? If you add the verse and chapter numbers of Numbers 10:11 and Acts 1:9, the clue points to Iyar 20 this year!

verse total : 11 + 9 = 20
chapter total : 10 + 1 = 11

The year 2011 is the amalgam of the verse and chapter totals. Furthermore, the chapter total number 11 has a digital root of 2 (1+1), thus, when combined with the verse total 20, Iyar 20 is also in view, being the twentieth day of the second month on the ecclesiastical calendar.

The intrigue deepens.

But what is the spiritual significance when the CLOUD, the Shekinah glory of God, is described as being TAKEN UP on IYAR 20 from off the TABERNACLE? The Bible tells us, after about one year, on Iyar 20 in the second year, Israel left Mount SINAI and headed for the Promised Land. Note this: The pillar of cloud rose for the FIRST TIME from off the Tabernacle on Iyar 20!


Taken from: http://www.chabad.org/calendar/view/day.asp?tdate=5/24/2011

Journey From Mount Sinai (1312 BCE)

On the 20th of Iyar 2449 (1312 BCE)--nearly a year after the Giving of the Torah on Mount Sinai--the Children of Israel departed their encampment near the Mountain. They resumed their journey when the pillar of cloud rose for the first time from over the "Tabernacle--the divine sign that would signal the resumption of their travels throughout their encampments and journeys over the next 38 years, until they reached the eastern bank of the Jordan River on the eve of their entry into the Holy Land.

Israel met God at Mount Sinai on Pentecost, the 50th day from Passover, and received the letter that killeth (2 Cor 3:6). The Church received the life-giving Holy Spirit (2 Cor 3:6) in the Upper Room on Pentecost, the 50th day from Passover.

Israel left Mount Sinai on Iyar 20, the 50th day from Nisan 1, the start of a new year! Will the Church leave Mount SINAI for Mount ZION (Gal 4:25, 26) on Iyar 20 this year, the second 50th day?

Now you can see that Iyar 20 is not an ordinary day on the Hebrew calendar, even though it is relatively unknown, eclipsed by the prominent Pentecost -- the day the Holy Spirit DESCENDED. But it is now clear, the Holy Spirit may ASCEND on a future Iyar 20 just as the CLOUD (the Holy Spirit) ROSE on Iyar 20 in time past.

For a long time, I have known that the Enoch rapture verse, Genesis 5:24, is the 130th verse of the Bible. The significance of this number is that it is the sum of the Hebrew gematria of ENOCH (84; link) and ELIJAH (46; link) -- the two raptured saints! But more astounding is the fact that the Hebrew gematria of SINAI is also 130 (see link)!

Are Enoch and Elijah showing us that the date of our disappearance is foreshadowed by the CLOUD being TAKEN UP from SINAI on Iyar 20?

The Hebrew gematria of IYAR (aleph 1, yod 10, resh 200) is 211 -- the chapter and verse numbers of the Elijah rapture verse, Second Book of Kings 2:11 !!!

The combined witness of Enoch, Elijah and Jesus points to the rapture on Iyar 20 in year 2011 when the bride shall leave Sinai of this world for Zion above.

As a bonus, Tuesday turns out to be an especially auspicious day for a wedding!


Taken from http://www.myjewishlearning.com/life/Life_Events/Weddings/Liturgy_Ritual_and_Custom/Time_and_Place.shtml

Time & Place for a Jewish Wedding

For much of Jewish history, the third day of the week (Tuesday) was considered an especially auspicious day for a wedding. This was so because, concerning the account of the third day of creation, the phrase "... and God saw that it was good" (Genesis 1:10,12) appears twice. Therefore, Tuesday is a doubly good day for a wedding.


I have other incontrovertible evidence from the Genesis 1:1 Pyramid which I will share in my next post. You will be SHOCKED by the clues buried there amongst the stones of the Pyramid IN PLAIN SIGHT!

Doves, our flight may be a few days from now. Take heart. If not, remain prayerful and watchful.

John

P.S.
The Book of Revelation is a letter more or less dictated to John by Jesus and a record of visions John saw, to those with ears to hear, that is the bride. We read of the heart cry of the Spirit and the bride, COME LORD JESUS, at the closing chapter, moments before the departure. Since everything is coming to a climatic end for the Age of Grace, the Church ignores the last warnings of Jesus at her peril. Intriguingly, the last scripture, verse 31102 (Re 22:21), points to our current year if you read the last four digits in reverse order: 1102 becomes 2011 !


http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2011/raptureday.html

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Re: John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/jeans519-1.htm


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Jean Stepnoski (19 May 2011)
"With Thanks for John Tng"


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Dear John and Doves,
Thank you John for your latest wonderful post! It has inspired me to find additional fascinating reasons to look to Iyar 20, 5-23 to 24, 2011. These have to do with the Counting of the Omer and the Midst of the Menorah. Please read my second post today. Bless you and thank you for everything you do for the Doves, John! Our long patient watching may conclude soon!

With Love and Shalom,
Jean
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Thanks, Jean!
John
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/jeans519-2.htm

Jean Stepnoski (19 May 2011)
"Iyar 20: Double Midst of the Menorah Day!"


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Dear Doves,
The Barley Resurrection Season begins with the Feast of First Fruits of barley. The 49-50 days then count up, ascend, to Shavuot, Pentecost, at the beginning of the wheat harvest for Israel. From 4/23 to 24, Nisan 19 to 20 until 5/23 to 24 will be 31/32 days into the ascending Counting of the Omer. For those who do this each day, it is stated as weeks plus days. This year Iyar 20 will be 4 Scriptural Weeks plus 3 days into the Scriptural Week complete. Sunset on 5-23 will begin day 4 of the Scriptural Week. This will be a double 4! It will be The ONE and ONLY DAY for a double 4 of Sabbath to Sabbath Weeks and Days in the 49-50 day Ascending Count! Also, how many lights are lit during Hanukkah? These are 44 lights! When you see a 44, if you turn the 4 on the right, to the right like it is being opened, it looks like two doors swinging open on their hinges and opening into a gate! Our Master calls himself the door and the gate for the sheep!
In The Book of Revelation, The Master is seen standing in the midst of a heavenly menorah. This is the middle of a seven branch lampstand. The most significant of the 7 lamps is the one in the midst, the center. In the original divine design, the servant lamp was the number 4. The Servant Lamp was upraised and the olive oil basin for it fed each and all of the 7 lamps! The Servant Lamp represents the lamps, the lights, the flames, the olive oil, the seven as completion, and the menorah.
On Iyar 20 we see the themes of ascent, light, and glory among others. The pillar of cloud was at a height, uplifted, so that everyone in the camp could see it. When the glory, like magnificent light, departed the community portable tent of meeting tabernacle, the mishkan, where did it go? It ascended, it rose, it was uplifted.
The ONE and ONLY DAY in 2011 when there is the double 4, Midst of the Menorah Concept doubled during the Counting of the Omer will be Iyar 20. We have the double 4 for the Scriptural Sabbath Week, The Day 4 Scriptural Day, and within the Scriptural Year. Month 4 day 4 will be Tammuz 4. This goes to day 5 of the Scriptural Week so there is no match with the Servant Lamp.
Iyar 20 contains the themes of ascent, light, lamps, flames, olive oil, glory, double 4, the door-gate, servant light, His Light in the midst of lights, menorah, seven as symbolic of completion, shamash, upliftment, community gathered together, the communal tabernacle of meeting. Keep Your Lamps Lit Day! Olive oil, lamps, and lights are obvious!
Barley First Fruits Day is a day on the Hillel Calendar which floats. It is not always on Nisan 17. This year it was Nisan 19 to 20. The double 4, the 4 plus 4, this year is Iyar 20. This is not coincidence, it is part of Divine Plan. It is about one week after The Second Passover and three days after the important Noah anniversary day of Iyar 17. We are promised to be raised on The Third Day. Might Iyar 20 be The Day of The Blessed Hope? We shall see. May we daily pray, repent, and Watch for our Beloved Lord, The Finest Light of Lights of All! Bless John Tng! Bless the Doves!

With Love and Shalom,
Jean



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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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Re: John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/tedp519-2.htm

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Ted Porter (19 May 2011)
"John's "The Rapture Date" and Clouds"

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John - Amazing associations of the Rapture with Clouds



http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2011/raptureday.html



Don’t know why “clouds” haven’t been studied more in watching for the Rapture.



I was also thinking how we have such a “cloud” of witnesses:



Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, Hebrews 12:1



And how the 144,000 servants of God who are sealed will also be a great cloud of witnesses.



Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Revelation 7:3-4



And May 24th, just happens to be the 144th day of the year.



Looking Up!
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Thanks, Ted!
John


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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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Re: John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/robertb519-1.htm

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Robert Belanger (19 May 2011)
"To John Tng - 3-Day Sign, the word "eigenscriptures""

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John,

I want to thank you for the 5/24 analysis. Your studies over the years have been inspiring and uplifting to the spirits of those waiting and watching so patiently. I started reading this site seriously back in 2007 when your analysis of the $2.34 was presented and displayed such penetrating detective skill. I hope this time it is aimed at the actual event and is not just another wake up cal, although such a call would be welcomed also.

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The message today from James R reminded me of the generation in Jesus' time that wanted a sign and Jesus said no sign would be given except the sign of Jonah. Jonah, of course, was in the whale for 3 days perhaps suggesting that we would be given a 3-day warning too. The Camping May 21 prediction may be partially correct in that the earthquakes, etc., could be the trigger of the 3-day warning. We'll have to wait and see. This weekend and next week promise to be eventful, to say the least!

The link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAyt6BeCU8c&feature=channel_video_title

provided in the message by Gabri Don in his message at


http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/gabridon518.htm


provides information regarding such a possible 3-day warning event. It would be similar to Jonah's but this time for the rapture of the Bride of Christ. I hope so.

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Regarding the word eigenscripture that was used by Michael Colunga in

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/michaelc518-3.htm

his references to integral and derivative shows he is talking about mathematics and an analytical measure that is used frequently in evaluating engineering designs for operational areas where failure might occur. A well-known such failure was the vibration-induced whipping motion that led to the collapse of the Tacoma Rapids bridge caused by air circulation patterns in the steel support structures.

In engineering mathematics, it is known that eigenvalues, or certain values computed from experimental data or from known physical parameters of a structure, can identify problematical frequencies, that are known as resonant frequencies, at which vibrating structures, such as shafts in rotating machinery, can become dangerously out of control because of whipping about their axis of rotation.

The Tacoma bridge was probably not given such an analysis, since the effects of aeronautical buffeting forces was not as well known then. The corrective action would have been the elimination of the open gridwork beneath the road bed with more solid structures as found in more successful bridges such as the Brooklyn Bridge in New York and the John Roebling Bridge in CIncinnati. Roebling designed both of these bridges, before the day of computers able to perform eigenanalysis, and instinctively made the supports free of the dangerous open gridwork of beams beneath the road bed.

As a more common example, from everyday experience, we are familiar perhaps with badly maintained, usually very old, automobiles that have very worn and loose front wheel bearings, which often produce dangerous shimmying at certain road speeds based on the rotational speed of the front wheels. These vibrations can result in loss of steering control and accidental damages and even death of the occupants of the automobile. The corrective action would be the replacement of the bearings with new ones to eliminate the looseness.

Michael's creation of the word eigenscripture therefore means a portion of scripture that perhaps "resonate"s within the mind and spirit of the reader, thereby giving evidence of its truth or applicability to some situation or interpretation (hopefully not in a dangerous or explosive manner!). We would have to verify this meaning with Michae,l since I have never heard of this term before in comparison to mathematical eigenvalues.

Of course, if such an interpretation of eigenscripture is the one that Michael intended, then such scripture could be a warning of the rapture date. What an original and even exciting way to say it! It is one of the reasons that I read the Five Doves site everyday!

John, let's hope your prediction of 5/24 is correct. Let us also be alert on 5/21 for some sort of 3-day sign. I thank you again for keeping this site operational and contributing your own unique messages.

YBIC,
Robert
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Thanks, Robert!
John



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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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Steven

Re: John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/vicki519.htm

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Vicki (19 May 2011)
"Re: 5-24"

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John,
I LOVED your post!!! What excited me the most, is how God has used chapters and verses to show me things too! The "method" He used with you is very confirming to me:) One thing I have learned though, is that sometimes our "interpretation" is a little different from His, yet other times, the message and interpretation come together perfectly!! Something else I found interesting about the date 5-24. If the numbers are added together separately... they equal 11. 5+2+4= 11 WOW! WOW! God is moving in such an amazing way right now!
I am so excited about the 24th, yet have a deep ache in my soul too. Two of my children are not living the life Jesus calls us to live. I pray fervently for them every day, and the time is very, very short. Will you and ALL doves please, please pray for them to be born again, before it's too late. Not only them, but for every person who is being prayed for world wide. There are many of us who are pleading for the salvation of our loved ones and friends.
Thank you in advance for your prayers.
I'm looking forward to spending eternity with all of you:)
ysic
Vicki
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Thanks, Vicki!
John


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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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Steven

Re: John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

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http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2011/raptureday2.html

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John Tng (23 May 2011)
"The Rapture Date (Part 2)"

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Dear Doves,

As promised, I will show in this article that the rapture date is buried amongst the stones of the Genesis 1:1 Pyramid in plain sight. The Hebrew gematria of the first verse of the Bible, Genesis 1:1, is 2701 -- a number full of surprises; amongst its many intriguing mathematical properties, the one I will describe here is its triangle property. It turns out you can build a two-dimensional pyramid, that is, a triangle, with precisely 2701 stones.



While many people have tried to find the date of the End of Days within the Great Pyramid of Giza, I turn my attention to the Genesis 1:1 Pyramid in the hope that I may discover the beginning of the end, that is, the rapture. Instead of counting in pyramid inches as in the case of the Great Pyramid, I count the Genesis Pyramid stone by stone in whole numbers. The effort paid off!

Begin counting from the foundation, the bottomest layer. Take the bottom leftmost stone as the first stone and count towards the right. Once a layer is counted, continue counting the next layer up, left to right again. Some interesting numbers begin to emerge at the middle layer, row 37, which begins with 1999 -- a number we naturally regard as a year in our recent past. Right at the center of row 37 is 2017 -- a possible year for the Second Coming. (For more information, please read this link: http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2009/g11pyramid.html

Bob Ware became interested in what I was doing, and he began counting from the apex of the pyramid. His counting proceeds from the top to the bottom, right to left, while mine proceeds from the bottom to the top, left to right. To distinguish both counting schemes, Bob color-codes his stones red and I stick to my original blue color.

To cut a long story short, I present to you stone 2011 in red and blue colors below. The most SHOCKING thing about the locations of these two stones is that they are

DIRECTLY RELATED to the two rapture verses: Genesis 5:24 and Second Book of Kings 2:11 !!!

Imagine the Genesis Pyramid to be a gigantic structure whose size rivals that of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Next, imagine Bob climbs onto the top of the pyramid and begins counting. As he descends, level by level, he counts each stone he steps on from the right to the left. By the time he reaches stone 2011, he will have reached the 63rd row from the apex, or the 11th row from the base, resting on the 58th stone from the right -- precisely the stone of our destiny, if this is the year of the rapture. As he looks ahead of him on this row, standing on stone 2011, he sees only 5 stones left to count.

Now let me count from the base, climbing up level by level. By the time I reach stone 2011, I will have reached the 13th stone from the left in row 37. As I look ahead of me on this row, I see only 24 stones left to count!

Do you see the beautiful symmetry as Bob and I count from both directions?



But the mystery does not end there. The two coordinates shown above is the familiar (x, y) coordinate system with origin anchored at the first stone (bottom left). Due to the staggered manner in which the stones are stacked, there are twice as many columns as rows (73 rows & 145 columns).



The sum of the two x-y coordinates is 21+11+61+37 = 130. If you have read my previous article, you may have recalled 130 is the Hebrew gematria sum of ENOCH (84) and ELIJAH (46) -- the two raptured saints! Not only that, 130 is also the Hebrew gematria of SINAI, the very mountain from which the CLOUD was first TAKEN UP off the TABERNACLES on IYAR 20. Also, don't forget that Genesis 5:24 is the 130th verse!


Since Bob looks down from the apex, the origin of his x-y coordinate system is anchored at the pinnacle, the first red stone; thus the two 2011 stones lie on the positive quadrant of his inverted coordinate system, with these coordinates: red stone 2011 (53, 63) and blue stone 2011 (13, 37).

The sum of the two inverted x-y coordinates is 53+63+13+37 = 166. When I saw this number I fell out of my chair!

The number 166, when subtracted from the total number of stones in the Genesis 1:1 Pyramid, 2701, is the sum of the year 2011 and the month-day amalgam 524!

Doves, let's hope tomorrow is our day of redemption. If not, we continue to watch.

COME, LORD JESUS!

John



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Re: John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

just finding it interesting that King David reigned 7years and six months in Hebron before which is 2520days + 181days =2701days?

"And the time that David was king in Hebron over the house of Judah was seven years and six months." 2Samuel:2:11 see also 2Samuel 5:5 & 1Chronicles3:4

could it also be that 2011 also means 2011days left for the Tribulation Period?

could this mean that we have suffered 690days longer so that 690days are shortened from 2701days?

then this means that Tribulation started in 2009AD?
-365days in 2010last year -144days from May24 2011AD -181days in 2009 which is 4th July 2009 or 22nd July2009 Total Solar Eclipse? so 18days left to go...???

Re: John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/clay524.htm

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Clay Cantrell (23 May 2011)
"Number Systems at Work in Genesis 5:24"


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Readers -

Tng has posted of late his examinations of Genesis 5:24.

here are a couple of things I notice about that verse and the Lord's number systems (imho).

the verse:

And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

total verse value for this verse according to Biblewheel.com =

1831

moving to Strong's 1831 Greek word yields

exerchomai

http://www.biblewheel.com/gr/strongs.asp?Strongs=G1831

shows list of definitions, some of which are:

depart
escape
come out of
disappear

looks like a match to Enoch.

also note running gematria total through second word Enoch =

555

base conversions show the link

365 decimal = 555 octal.

Enoch taken at 365 years.

also note that

555 = 37 x 5 x 3

any prime number multiplied by 15 appears to be more important than others, or assigned to singular individuals in the Bible like Enoch

his Greek gematria = 1455 (97 x 15)

and like with Moses (Hebrew 345) =
23 x 5 x 3


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Re: John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/bobware524-1.htm

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Bob Ware (24 May 2011)
"RE: Rapture Date (Part 2)"

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John,

That was an exciting discovery with the coordinate locations for the blue and red stone numbers 2011!

You wrote: "Now let me count from the base, climbing up level by level. By the time I reach stone 2011, I will have reached the 13th stone from the left in row 37. "

In my post 'JESUS CHRIST and 24 May 2011'
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/bobware57.htm
you will see in my diagram that the top row of the 'Prime Cube' totals 1337 (79 + 431 + 827).

You also wrote: "The sum of the two x-y coordinates is 21+11+61+37 = 130." and "The sum of the two inverted x-y coordinates is 53+63+13+37 = 166."

Draw a circle around a rectangle with sides of 130 and 166 and each 90 degree arc rounds off to Vincent Tan's 234.

The diagonal of this rectangle is 210.846. When this is the short side of a golden rectangle then the diameter through the center of the circle around this golden rectangle is 401. 401 is the gematria at the center of Genesis 1:1. Since your discoveries come from the 'Genesis 1:1 Pyramid', this anomaly has more significance.

The circumference of this circle around the golden rectangle is 1260 which is the number of days in the first half of the Tribulation. 1260 plus the four points of the 'Prime Cross' (1948) equals: 8 x 401. The value at the center of this 'Prime Cross' is 467. 467 plus the gematria of Genesis 1:1 (2701) equals the Greek gematria of 'LORD JESUS CHRIST' (3168).

Also note that 467 equals 401 plus the 66 books in the Bible.

It appears that our designs do compliment each other.

bobware88@juno.com
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John


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Re: John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/bobware524-2.htm

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Bob Ware (24 May 2011)
"In the 'Genesis 1:1 Pyramid' red stone 1948 sits on the top right side of red stone 2011"

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John,

Israel was born again on 14 May 1948. Red stone number 1948 sits on the top right side of red stone number 2011. Red stone number 1948 is your blue stone number 754. The Greek gematria of 'JESUS CHRIST' (2368) divided by Pi equals 754. Also, each 60 degree arc of the 'Circle of Time' marked off by a Star of David' within that circle is 754.

Some one posted that 754 is the gematria for the Hebrew translation of 'JESUS CHRIST'

Yehoshua HaMeshiach > JESUS CHRIST

Yehoshua > Literally means "God saves" or "YHVH is my salvation."

HaMeshiach > messiah



Hebrew gematrias (right to left):

70 + 300 + 6 + 5 + 10 = 391 (Jesus)

8 + 10 + 300 + 40 + 5 = 363 (Christ)

391 + 363 = 754

Ayin (70) + Shin (300) + Vav (6) + Heh (5) + Yod (10) = 391

Het ( + Yod (10) + Shin (300) + Mem (40) + Heh (5) = 363



bobware88@juno.com
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John,

Your blue stone 1948 is my red stone 754.

Again, 1948 is the year of Israel's rebirth and the sum of the four points of the 'Prime Cross' (113 + 431 + 523 + 881). Blue stone 1948 is centered on top of blue stone 1908 and red stone 793. 793 is the English gematria of 'BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'. 1908 is the year of the Tunguska Blast which occurred on 30 June 1908. 1908 is also the sum of the twin-prime pairs at the north (431 + 433) and south (521 + 523) points of the vertical bar of the 'Prime Cross'. 431 is the 84th prime number and, as you wrote, 84 is the gematria of Enoch. 433 is the 85th prime number and the 8th Star of David number.

This combination may point to another meteor strike during the Presidency of Obama.


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Re: John Tng (17 May 2011) "The Rapture Date" "The Rapture Date"

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2011/peterf525.htm

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Peter Frier (25 May 2011)
"John: YOU MAY NEED TO ADD 2 & 4 TOGETHER"


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John,

Re: your calculation on Rapture date.

Instead of 5/24/2011, how about:

5 / 6 (2+4) / 2011

>> 5th of June, 2011


Now,

My personal experience:
On the morning of March 28, 2011 upon awakening I spoke out these words ,"in 68 DAYS". Was it prophetic? Don't know. 68 days from March 28 lands on June 4th, 2011.



Also, Dr. Owour said he will be in a familiar place with familiar faces when the Rapture happens. He will be having a revival meeting in his home country, Kenya, on June 3-5, 2011.

Could this be when it happens?

Also, President Ahmadinejad of Iran is claiming the that the Mahdi will be revealed on June 5th! Interesting.
Link:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/ahmadinejad%E2%80%99s-team-expects-arrival-of-12th-imam-on-june-5/

Also, rumor has it that the Earth pole shift will happen around June 3rd, 2011.


Also, June 5th is the anniversary of the start of the 6 day war in Israel in 1967.


Anything else I missed?
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John

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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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Steven