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Is Psalms 83 about to be fulfilled?

I am 100% convinced that it is about to be fulfilled,without a shadow of a doubt!

I am sure by now we have all heard about the call for all Palestinian Arabs to "come" and march into Israel on the anniversary of Israel becoming a nation.on may 15th,they say,that "they are returning for their land".They are even calling it the "March of Return",as well as the third Intifada.
http://www.israelunitycoalition.org/news/?p=6538
http://www.countercurrents.org/ezzat300411.htm

quote from first link,that tells us where they are coming from:
Sunday, May 15th
To commemorate the Palestinian exodus day 1948 ( Nakba) when well over 750000 Palestinians were forcibly expelled out of their home land by Israel, similar number of Thousands angry Arab protesters from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon along with their Palestinian brothers from Gaza and the occupied west bank will advance toward Israel in what they call, the third intifada.
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2011/04/third-palestinian-intifada-all-arabs-to-march-on-israel-on-may-15th/


There will also be global sit-ins outside all Israeli diplomatic offices around the world,as well as rally's in Europe and Latin America. http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/palestine

We were told that the former uprisings in Egypt,Lybia,Syria..ect were propagated by the use of facebook,and I have seen nothing on the mainstream media about the up coming march into Israel,but facebook is being used to pass the word from Palestinian to Palestinian in this case too.
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2011/04/third-palestinian-intifada-all-arabs-to-march-on-israel-on-may-15th/
http://www.israelunitycoalition.org/news/?p=6538
http://www.countercurrents.org/ezzat300411.htm

But before this march there will be two days of protest/uprising against Israel on the 13th and 14th,in Egypt,where the march will start from.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/world/middleeast/05palestinians.html?_r=2

It appears that the landmark agreement beween Hamas and Fatah,is also one of the things fueling this,and the two leaders of these groups seem to be the organizers of the march.it is also worth noting,that their agreement has formed a new goverment for the Palestinians.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/177937.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/world/middleeast/05palestinians.html?_r=2


I have spent more than three hours researching and studying, the bible,maps,wikipedi,historical docs and much more,before coming to this conclusion,and I believe that,if you would take the time to read this, you will see what I am talking about.

Because what is getting ready to happen looks so much like Psalms 83. you will need to read carefully because sometimes it is hard to tell where the scriptures start and the quotes from the news begin.

I will be using KJV, unless otherwise stated.

I think it would be best if I inserted all of Psalms 83 first, then go from there.

The Holy Bible: King James Version. 2000.
The Psalms
83

A Prayer for the Destruction of Israel's Enemies
A Song or Psalm of Asaph.


1 Keep not thou silence, O God:
hold not thy peace,
and be not still, O God.

2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult:
and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people,
and consulted against thy hidden ones.

4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation;
that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

5 For they have consulted together with one consent:
they are confederate against thee:

6 the tabernacles of Edom, and the Ish'maelites;
of Moab, and the Hag'arenes;

7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Am'alek;
the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;

8 Assur also is joined with them:
they have helped the children of Lot.
Selah.

9 Do unto them as unto the Mid'i-anites; Judg. 7.1-23
as to Sis'era, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: Judg. 4.6-22

10 which perished at En–dor:
they became as dung for the earth.

11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Ze'eb: Judg. 7.25
yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmun'na: Judg. 8.12

12 who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.

13 O my God, make them like a wheel;
as the stubble before the wind.

14 As the fire burneth a wood,
and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;

15 so persecute them with thy tempest,
and make them afraid with thy storm.

16 Fill their faces with shame;
that they may seek thy name, O LORD.

17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever;
yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:

18 that men may know that thou,
whose name alone is JEHOVAH,
art the Most High over all the earth.


Ok,get ready folks;

(ps)v.2 The first thing we notice here is;there are a group of enemy's,and they are making a tumult.
definition of tumult is:

The din and commotion of a great crowd.
2.
a. A disorderly commotion or disturbance.ie protest
b. A tempestuous uprising; a riot.

We have already established that there will be two day's of protest.

What's all the commotion going to be about? The Palestinian refugees want their land back; the history lesson below
will show why they think it is their land.but for now let the scriptures show us some other things about this.


v3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people,and consulted against thy hidden ones.
v4 They have said,Come,and let us cut them of from being a nation;that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

notice the words above'they have said "come";we have already established the fact there are Arabs from six places being called to "come"and march into Israel,and take their land back,that they call "Palestine" not Israel,contrary to popular belief they do not want to destroy the location,they just don't want it to be called the nation of Israel.

Why do they have a problem with this nation being named Israel, well one reason is because,the Arabs are the decendants of Esau,and Esau's brother was Jacob whose decendants are the Jews, every body probably remembers how Jacob tricked his daddy into to giving him the blessing instead of Esau, well the Arabs never forgot it either, and because Jacobs name was changed to Israel,this is a reminder for them.
remember the scripture from above:that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

But there are other reasons for the hate of the name of Israel,as well as the concequences from the above mentioned story,that the Palestinian Arabs are still dealing with today.

History lesson: keep in mind that there is no race of people called Palestinians,they were only called by that name because they were the ancesters of the Arabs, who lived in historical Palestine, but now they live in tents in Palestinian refugee camps,that are located in the places, that they are being called to come from.there Although there are refugees' in Egypt there are no camps there. map of camps >http://www.mideastweb.org/mrefugees.htm
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/palreftoc.html

Historical Palestine was once called Cannan in the bible, but the Romans referred to it as Judea; there were Jews, Palestinian Arabs and few other nationalities living there,however beween 132ad and 135ad,there was a serious Jewish revolt in Judea/Cannan
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0015_0_15342.html
http://focusonjerusalem.com/thebibleandpalestine.htm

After the revolt had been crushed,the Emperor Hadrian was so annoyed with the Jews,that he decreed that they all had to leave,and he changed the name of Judea/Cannan to Palestine, some historians even believe that the particular name of Palestine was choosen to be further humiliation for the Jews,due to the unrest between the two.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Historical_currencies_of_Israel

Then in the late evening of May 14,1948,which makes it the 15th for the Jews time clock, Palestine was now declared to be the Nation of Israel
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Dec_of_Indep.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0015_0_15342.html

When this happened,there were around 725,000 Palestinian Arabs,who left,fled or were expelled from the new nation called Israel.
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2011/04/third-palestinian-intifada-all-arabs-to-march-on-israel-on-may-15th/

The UN set these Palestinian Arabs in refugee camps that are still located in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
map of camps > http://www.mideastweb.org/mrefugees.htm

these are five of the places where the marchers are coming from,with Egypt that makes six,the call to "come" seems to be coming from Egypt,there are refugees' living there,but there are no camps in Egypt. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/world/middleeast/05palestinians.html?_r=2

There are two factions of the Arab Palestinians the Fatah and Hamas,they have recently come together and have signed and agreement.

:Fatah, Hamas proclaim landmark reconciliation pact.
Today we end a dark chapter in our recent history,"
Hamas leader Ismail Radwan told the Fatah TV station. "It's time now to work together."

v.5 For they have consulted together with one consent:they are confederate against thee.

“We will have one authority and one decision,” Mr. Meshal said from the podium. “We need to achieve the common goal: a Palestinian state with full sovereignty on the 1967 borders with Jerusalem as the capital, no settlers, and we will not give up the right of return.” http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/world/middleeast/05palestinians.html?_r=2

v.5 but now notice how the NLT words this same scripture:Yes, this was their unanimous decision.They signed a treaty as allies against you.

At the signing ceremony inside Egypt’s intelligence headquarters, men from Mr. Abbas’s Palestinian Authority, which runs the West Bank, and from Hamas, which rules Gaza — who had for four years viewed one another as solemn enemies — embraced and even joked. But they also expressed steely mutual resolve.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/world/middleeast/05palestinians.html?_r=2


CAIRO (AP) — Rival Palestinian factions Fatah and Hamas on Wednesday proclaimed a landmark reconciliation pact aimed at ending their bitter four-year rift that has left them with competing governments in the territories envisioned for a future Palestinian state
The alliance set off ecstatic celebrations in the Palestinian territories. International mediator Tony Blair insisted their new government must recognize Israel, a step Hamas has always rejected.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas brushed off the criticism and instead used the occasion to deliver a scathing attack on Israel, saying "we reject blackmail and it is no longer possible for us to accept the (Israeli) occupation of Palestinian land."

Remember in our history lesson,what they consider to be Palestinian land? and remember the crafty councel from verse 3.


Now onto the list of the enemy's in Psalms 83

verses 6-8 #1 The tabernacles of Edom,
the Ishmaelites f #2 Moab,and the #3Hagarenes;
#4Gebal and #5ammon,and #6Amealek:the #7philistines with the #8inhabitants of Tyre;
#9Assur also is joined with them:they have helped the children of Lot.

Although the group of Arabs are gathering in Eqypt for a uprising against Israel between may 13th 14th ,they live in different areas,here is the list from Muslim village.
Sunday, May 15th
To commemorate the Palestinian exodus day 1948 ( Nakba) when well over 750000 Palestinians were forcibly expelled out of their home land by Israel, similar number of Thousands angry Arab protesters from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon along with their Palestinian brothers from Gaza and the occupied west bank will advance toward Israel in what they call, the third intifada,or the march of return.http://muslimvillage.com/forums/topic/64008-day-of-rage-march-on-israel-15-may-2011/

Ok now let's see if the list above matches the list in Psalms,yes the names have changed and some territories only have one name now, but the use of the bible, maps and wikipedia,as well as historical documents will help us find out what they were to changed to.

(ps) v.6 we see the tabernacles of Edom =Jordon
http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/his_testament.html
http://www.neverthirsty.org/pp/corner/read2/r00698.html

The Ishmaelites of Moab ...Moab= also Jordon
http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/his_testament.html
http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/s21.htm

The Ishmaelites of the Hagarenes,there base was in Petra,which used to be called Hagar,Petra is still in =Eqypt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagarenes
http://www.travelinstyle.com/egypt/bestegyptPetra.html

v.7 Gebal=Lebanon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byblos

v.7 Ammon =Jordon again
http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/his_testament.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon

v.7 Amelek= Egypt 1st Sam 15:2

v.7 the Philistines = gaza and = west bank Palestinians
sidebar for history lesson: the Palestinians were once called Philistines, when they inhabited Gaza and what was once called samaria but now is the west bank.
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0843315.html
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_early_palestine_judea_samaria.php
http://www.visualbiblealive.com/resources.php?encyc_id=143&img_id=79502&action=encyclopedia&frame=divEncyc

v.7 with the inhabitants of Tyre=Lebanon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2010/01/26/The-Biblical-Cities-Of-Tyre-And-Sidon.aspx

v.8 Assur=Syria
that helped the children of lot,Assur, became Assyria then Syria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_People
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Syria

Well the gang is all here

Let's see what is going to happen to them

The writer in verses 9-11 wants God to do unto them as unto another group of people,you can read what happened to them in Judges 4 and 5 and 7.

I will tell you this much God struck the army of Midian with a surprize attack,Sisera with a sudden flood storm,"Do unto them as unto the Midianites." Faith delights to light upon precedents, and quote them before the Lord; in the present instance, Asaph found a very appropriate one, for the nations in both cases were very much the same, and the plight of the Israelites very similar. Yet Midian perished, and the Psalmist trusted that Israel's present foes would meet with the like overthrow from the hand of the Lord. "As to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison." The hosts were swept away by the suddenly swollen torrent, and utterly perished; which was a second instance of divine vengeance upon confederated enemies of Israel. When God wills it, a brook can be as deadly as a sea. Kishon was as terrible to Jabin as was the Red Sea to Pharaoh. How easily can the Lord smite the enemies of his people. God of Gideon and of Barak, wilt thou not again avenge thine heritage of their bloodthirsty foes?

when we look at verse 12 it appears that the gang above wanted to do what the gang marching into Israel want to on may 15th

v12 who said,let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.

The plan is for millions of Palestinian refugees to march en masse in return to the original homes of their families in Israel. The campaign is being referred to as “The 2011 March of Return,” “The Palestinian Refugees' Revolution,” “The Advance of the Millions,” and even
http://www.israelunitycoalition.org/news/?p=6538

v13 the writer is asking God to make them like a wheel,(translated wirlwind):as stubble before the wind.

v14indicates heat

v15 so, persecute them with thy tempest,and make them afraid with thy storm.
the word "so" refers back to verse 2.For, Lo, they enimies make a tumult

remember the definition of tumult?
The din and commotion of a great crowd.
2.
a. A disorderly commotion or disturbance.ie protest
b. A tempestuous uprising; a riot.ber the definition of tumult:

now check out the definition of tempest:

–noun
1. a violent windstorm, especially one with rain, hail, or snow.
2. a violent commotion, disturbance, or tumult

Notice there are two definitions here.

The second one envolves what the Arabs are planning for Israel
on May 13th-15th.

But the first one is what God is going to do about it.

There is a wind storm called a sirocco that can form in that part of the world and can creat hurricane force winds with intense heat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirocco

you all hide and watch and mark my words


maps going back 5,000 years http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000642

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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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