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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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by Gerlinda

"The more Tribulation the Father sends upon you the more comfort he will bring your way." It may sound like an oxymoron but it is true because it is through your tribulations that you are able to find Him. Here is the way Pastor Murray explains it:

1. The First Tribulation is the coming of the False Messiah which will cause the Church to be misled and as Pastor Murray says, "They are expecting to fly off as butterflies."

2. The Second and Great Tribulation leads to the Wrath of the Lamb come down upon those Nations that dare to divide Jerusalem and take for themselves that which has been given to the Hebrews not to the Edomites that are leading the nations.

Here is where I have a bit of a problem that makes some of Pastor Murray's teaching a bit confusing. He says, "Rev. 12:9 tells us that the Great Dragon was cast out of heaven." which is similar to what many other Evangelicals teach, thus, it sounds as if he is only getting cast out at that End of Days. The pre-Tribbers even say, "He comes down and we go up." However, it just does not fit.

So... what does the Prophet Isaiah 14:12 tell us, "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!" And

Luke 10:18 (KJV) "And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." This is Christ/Yahusha speaking.

There-fore Rev. 12:9 has to be a past event that took place at the beginning when he & his angels were cast out of the Third Heaven before Adam & Eve were ever created. "And the great dragon was hurled down--the ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Because Pastor Murray does not cover the First Earth Age here in this lesson although he does have his lessons on the 3 World ages, his teaching on Satan being thrown out of Heaven leaves one to assume that he has access to the Throne of God all this time to accuse the Brethren. True, He did have access during the Days of Job where God allowed him to tempt Job but not kill him. This has caused debate among others about when Job lived.

Also true is the fact that he is "Prince of the Air" of his Heaven that surrounds his Earthly Kingdom but not beyond the Dome that the Creator built over the Earth to separate His Heaven from the others.

The Books of the Apocrypha that have been posted on this site have helped us put much of this into perspective.

I happen to believe, from so much of the teaching of those books, that the Millennium that is spoken of has also been placed, either by error or on purpose at the End of the Bible period by those who promote their Third Reich, which Hitler failed to achieve but which the Vatican continues to push.

It was at the First Earth Age when Satan and his angels messed with the creations on the earth so badly that Yahuah destroyed the Earth with a flood completely leaving not even a bird alive. He may have imprisoned Satan at that time into another place from which he will be allowed to leave to indwell the A/C but not before the Restrainer is removed.

Could that be the place known as Atlantis/Antarctica which is making lots of news as of late?

One of the Books of the Apocrypha speaks of Lucifer being relegated to flying over the Abyss. The Abyss is below the Earth. That would make sense since the King of the Abyss and his angels will be released for 5 months. That same King is the one who occupied the body of Nimrod, King of the First World Kingdom. His servants are determined to bring back that "Golden Age" which we now know as "The One World Order".

I sure agree with Pastor Murray, there are many Believers right now that are being deceived by a pre-trib. Rapture that will save them from Tribulation. That just happens not to be the case. There is only one church of the 7 that gets saved. So, what about all the others that make up the 6 left?

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