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The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie
I keep calling it a theory, but that’s just because I am trying to be polite. It’s more than a theory. It’s a lie – from Satan, the father of lies. He is using it to put you to sleep, so that you will NOT prepare for what he has planned for you.
Please, if I have to beg, I will. You MUST wake up. There is so little time left.
Starting With The Truth
When judging a lie, you must always start with the truth, and you will find it in the Bible. It’s really quite simple, as the truth often is, and it won’t require lots of verbal gymnastics to say what is… the truth.
Let me summarize the points first:
Truth ALWAYS trumps THEORY – ALWAYS
The Antichrist must come before the Rapture
The Tribulation must come before the Rapture
The Sun and Moon Must be Darkened before the Rapture
The Lord Must descend from Heaven with a Shout before the Rapture
Jesus Must Return before the Rapture
The Resurrection must happen just before the Rapture (or, at the same time)
There is only one resurrection for those who are God’s people
God promised that Christians would suffer
There IS a Place of Safety on this Earth
There IS A Safe Place If You Do Not Follow The Lie
That last one should concentrate your mind. All of the arguments that the pre-tribbers make are based upon the fact that God would never allow His people to suffer. Well, you won’t have to suffer if you pay attention and follow the truth, and not lies.
Following a lie will ALWAYS lead to suffering. And THAT is what the pre-tribbers are setting you up for. Do not follow the lies of Satan. Do NOT twist the Bible. You must get this right, or you will die.
Yes, it really is a life and death issue.
After the first series of disasters rolls by, we can argue the finer points of eschatology. Until then, make ready for the worst moment in human history. But, let’s get to proving the above points.
Truth ALWAYS Trumps THEORY – ALWAYS
The Bible cannot lie. If you believe otherwise, please stop here. If you do not believe that the whole of the Bible is truth, there’s no hope for you.
So, if the Bible cannot lie, then each verse is a challenge to our theories.
We all have them. Some are right. Some are wrong. And, as you (hopefully) read your Bible, if you stumble across a verse that declares your theory wrong… well…
…it’s wrong, and you have to get it right.
Seriously, folks. If I tell you something, and the Bible disagrees with me… well, I’m wrong. It’s that simple.
The Bible is ALWAYS right. Always.
The Antichrist Must Come Before The Rapture
Paul reached out to the church in Thessalonica because they were thrown into turmoil over the idea of the Rapture. It appears that someone was telling them that they had missed it. Here is what Paul says in 2 Thessalonians 2:
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. – 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
The Antichrist MUST come before the Rapture. There is no other way that you can interpret this verse. None.
Unfortunately, pre-tribbers seek to twist this verse by saying that ‘falling away’ is The Rapture.
Really? Apostasy is the RAPTURE?
Here’s the Greek word that Paul used for ‘falling away’:
ἀποστασία – apostasia
That is NOT – and cannot be – the word for the Rapture. In another verse, apostasia was translated as forsake in Acts 21:21, when Paul was being accused of teaching apostasy, it was because they thought that he was telling people to forsake the Law of Moses.
Apostasia is NEVER used in ANY place in the Bible in reference to the Rapture. In fact, Paul already had a word that he uses for the rapture. It’s used in this phrase:
by our gathering together unto him
The Greek word used for gathering together is:
ἐπισυναγωγῆς – episynagōgēs
It really does just mean ‘gather together’.
The word that pre-tribbers like to use – rapture – comes from the Latin – rapturo. It’s a good word, and I use it because that’s what people understand. The Greek version of this word is:
ἁρπάζω – harpazó
It means to snatch away, or to take by force. And THAT is exactly what the Lord is going to do. He’s going to snatch us away. In fact, Paul uses much the same word in 1 Thessalonians 4:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. – 1 Thessalonians 4:17
The word for shall be caught up is:
ἁρπαγησόμεθα – harpagēsometha
And, the root is – you guessed it – harpazo.
So, when a pretribber comes to you and tries to tell you that The Great Apostasy in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 is actually the rapture, tell him that he’s lying. And then, tell him this:
The Antichrist Must Come Before The Rapture
To believe otherwise is to believe a lie. And, there is only one person who is the father of lies.
The Tribulation Must Come Before The Rapture
When Jesus spoke of the Last Days, the coming of the Antichrist and the Tribulation, He made zero mention of a pre-tribulation rapture. None. Zero. Zip.
You would think – if there WAS a pre-trib rapture – that Jesus would have mentioned it here. But, He didn’t. However, He DID say this:
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. – Matthew 24:29-31
(See also Mark 13:24-27)
This is Jesus, our Lord and Savior, telling us that the Rapture MUST HAPPEN AFTER THE TRIBULATION!
Please, did you get that?
The Rapture happens AFTER THE TRIBULATION. There is NO OTHER WAY TO INTERPRET THOSE VERSES!
Period. End of Statement.
Is there any part of this that you did not understand?
The Sun and Moon Must be Darkened before the Rapture
This next point, how the Sun and Moon must be darkened before the Rapture, piggy-backs on top of the verse that I talked about, above. But, it’s worth talking about separately. Although, this time, I’ll use Mark 13:
But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. – Mark 13:24-27
Please, everyone, there is NO WAY that you can see ANY pre-tribulation rapture here. The Sun and Moon must be darkened first, and the stars fall.
Then, and only then, will The Rapture happen.
The Lord Must descend from Heaven with a Shout before the Rapture
You saw me talk about harpazo, above. Well, this snatching away is not going to be some quiet event. In fact, Jesus descends from the sky with a shout. Here’s the specific passage:
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. – 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
I have a question to ask you:
Does this sound like the pre-trib rapture that the pretribbers talk about?
Not to me.
Jesus Must Return before the Rapture
I have already shown you Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27 above.
How does the Lord return?
Well, Jesus said that everyone would see Him return in the clouds with great power and glory. THEN He would send His angels to gather up His people from the Earth. This is His RETURN.
Does Matthew 24 or Mark 13 speak of a SECOND return?
Of course not. There is just one – THE RETURN.
Do we understand all that will happen at the time?
Probably not, but that shouldn’t keep us from accepting what our Lord and Savior told us.
The Rapture really does happen when Jesus returns.
The Resurrection Must Happen Just Before The Rapture
The pretribbers do their best to distort and explain away the evidence of a post-tribulation rapture, but they have an exceptionally tough time of it – when it comes to the resurrection. In fact, every time I raise this point, they begin attacking me personally, instead of answering the passage.
So, this passage is especially thorny for pretribbers:
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. – 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
THAT is unquestionably a rapture passage. No one can question that, and the pretribbers don’t. But, it is also a resurrection passage.
How can you have a pre-tribulation rapture, if the resurrection must happen just before (or at the same time as) the Rapture?
The answer is that you can’t. You CANNOT have a pre-tribulation rapture, because the resurrection MUST happen at the same time as the rapture. And… there is only one of them for God’s people.
There Is Only One Resurrection For Those Who Are God’s People
The reason why there cannot be a pre-tribulation rapture is that there is only one resurrection for those who are God’s people. Only one.
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. – Revelation 20:4-6
Those that go through the Tribulation WILL BE IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION!!
Is there any other FIRST RESURRECTION?
Of course not, unless you want to twist the Bible.
Just to rub it in a little, here’s Jesus speaking in Luke:
And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. – Luke 14:14
So, if you don’t make it in the First Resurrection, and are not in the Rapture, you will go to Hell.
Again, what happens just before (or at the same time as) the resurrection?
The Rapture.
God Promised That Christians Would Suffer
The reason why we are even having this debate is due to our desire to avoid suffering. We don’t even want to THINK about what the Antichrist will do to us during the Tribulation.
That is completely understandable, but it’s not an excuse to twist the words of God.
In fact, God promised us that we would suffer persecution and tribulation. I am mystified as to why the pretribbers think that we could avoid it. There are just too many verses that talk about this. Here are a couple:
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. - 2 Timothy 3:12
…and:
And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch, Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. – Acts 14:21-22
I have a question to ask all of my pretribber friends:
With all the persecution that we have experienced over the past two thousand years, and are experiencing now, why do you think that we should be exempt from the persecution of the Antichrist?
Because THAT is what we are talking about. The pretribbers will tell you about how God isn’t going to pour out His wrath upon His people, but they are REALLY just interested in avoiding the Antichrist.
Well, if we haven’t been able to avoid the persecution of the communists/catholics/nazis/pagans, then we aren’t going to avoid the persecution of the Antichrist.
Well… actually …that’s not completely true.
There IS A Place Of Safety On This Earth
When God sent the ten plagues upon Egypt, He didn’t take them out of Egypt. But, He did provide them with a place that was free of these plagues. It was an area of Egypt called The Land of Goshen.
And, we can find the same idea in Revelation. According to the Book of Revelation, there is a place that will offer protection to God’s people, who flee the Antichrist:
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. – Revelation 12:13-14
There IS a place of safety that will be prepared for God’s people. And, it will be a place that will keep them safe, until the end of the Tribulation.
Do I understand how that is possible?
No. No one does. But, that shouldn’t keep us from taking it on faith.
The problem is that you will not have the opportunity to be in a place of safety, if you allow yourself to twist the Bible.
Torturing The Bible
There is no verse in the Bible that talks about a pre-tribulation rapture. I’ve seen the evidence of these false teachers, and all that they can offer are verses that they have twisted out of shape.
As someone once said:
The Bible is like a person. If you torture it enough, you can get it to say anything.
God did not intend for you to torture the Bible. He meant for you to accept it. It is His words for you.
If you would not twist the words of those that you truly love on this Earth…
…why would you twist the words of God?
My suspicion is that many pretribbers don’t love God. It’s really that simple.
Conclusion – Your Choice
So, here is what we talked about:
Truth ALWAYS trumps THEORY – ALWAYS
The Antichrist must come before the Rapture
The Tribulation must come before the Rapture
The Sun and Moon Must be Darkened before the Rapture
The Lord Must descend from Heaven with a Shout before the Rapture
Jesus Must Return before the Rapture
The Resurrection must happen just before the Rapture (or, at the same time)
There is only one resurrection for those who are God’s people
God promised that Christians would suffer
There IS a Place of Safety on this Earth
If you would like more proof than this, I’ve talked about various parts of the pre-tribulation rapture, here:
http://www.omegashock.com/2014/07/26/weekend-shockcast-twisting-the-bible/
http://www.omegashock.com/2014/04/28/prophecy-clock-the-rapture/
http://www.omegashock.com/2013/02/21/pre-tribulation-rapture-fraud/
http://www.omegashock.com/2013/02/20/jesuit-pretrib-rapture/
http://www.omegashock.com/2013/08/08/the-rapture-that-wasnt/
http://www.omegashock.com/2014/05/23/your-theories-will-not-protect-you/
http://www.omegashock.com/2014/04/26/weekend-shockcast-the-2000-year-war/
http://www.omegashock.com/2014/05/03/weekend-shockcast-prophecy-clock-and-timeline/
The goal of this website is to help you stay as safe as possible in the coming days, so that you can continue to serve the Lord. But, you will not be able to do that, if you believe a lie.
The pre-tribulation rapture really is a lie.
So, I leave the choice to you:
Would you rather believe God?
Or,
Would you rather believe a lie?
The choice is yours.
Choose well.
I truly hope that you’ll be ready for this
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WILL YOU BELIEVE WHAT THE SCRIPTURES SAY?
WILL YOU BELIEVE AND NOT TWIST THE SCRIPTURES?
WILL YOU BELIEVE A LIE?
TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE LORD YOU MUST KNOW AND BELIEVE THE TRUTH.
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There is a RAPTURE but it is not what most have been taught.
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I really touched a nerve when I described the Pretribulation Rapture as a lie. I’ve never gotten so many irate comments in such a short amount of time. However, as WWII bomber pilots were known to say:
- When you’re taking flak, you’re right over the target. -
Unfortunately, I’m afraid that the Pre tribulation Rapture Lie is the single most important issue for those of us trying to awaken our brothers and sisters. The Body of Christ is in grave peril, and this lie is working to keep us asleep while Satan ushers in his Antichrist.
Worse, 99% of what I talk about will happen BEFORE the Tribulation begins. Yet, I find countless dispensationalists coming to me to say that we have nothing to fear, because the Rapture will happen before any great suffering.
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Proverbs 10:30 "The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth."
Revelation 14:19-20 (NKJV)
So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.
Over and over again, we are presented with examples of where people were saved from Destruction BUT none were ever taken UP into heaven, were they?
1. Noah & family rode out the Storm, then left the Ark and started over again, on this Earth
2. Lot & family left the city but remained on this Earth and began all over again when his two daughters mated with him in order to produce children. For it to be said that his going to the mountains typifies a Rapture is grasping at straws to prove a pre-tribulation Rapture. His high mountains was right here on this Earth, NOT Heaven. Exodus 19:20
3. Another example given by pre-tribbers to say this typifies a Rapture is the 7 days spent marching around Jericho when on the 7th and final trip around the city by the Children of Israelites, they ascended. So, let's read the account: "And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven TRUMPETS of rams' horns: and the SEVENTH day you shall compass the city SEVEN times, and the priests shall BLOW WITH THE TRUMPETS...and when YOU HEAR THE SOUND OF THE TRUMPET, all the people shall SHOUT WITH A GREAT SHOUT; and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, AND THE PEOPLE SHALL ASCEND UP, every man straight before him."
Again, this is not forecasting a Rapture but it is an accurate account of what God did here on earth for His people. He was magnified before all the pagan people on this earth by His miracles performed on behalf of His Chosen.
If the walls fell down flat, what would the people have to do to get over those walls? They would have to step up and over the walls, (ascend) to enter into the city to take it. It was Sudden Destruction for the citizens of Jericho. Again, it is so wrong to say this typifies a Rapture. You will understand this when you understand what it means to be Raptured as the word is really defined.
4. And then, there is the example of Moses stretching out his hand and the waters of the Red Sea came down upon the men of Egypt. And the waters returned, and covered the chariots, and the horsemen, and ALL the host of Pharaoh that came into the sea after them; there remained not so much as one of them." Exodus 14:27-41. This is not a typology of a Rapture.
Perhaps it is really important to point out, again, what the word Rapture, from the Greek rapere (which is to reap), really is describing.
Also from the Latin, are subreptitious, which means, kept secret, especially because it would not be approved of, is "Snatching Under"
Rapacious (greedly) snatching with the intend to EAT and RAPE. When Paul talks about the Rapture, it is really violent and the best English translations show this connotation. Does that sound like the meeting of the Translated Living with the Dead up to Meet the Lord in the air?
By now, the Believers have learned enough of the Illuminati and the demons that will come forth and those of that Seed-Line already here who snatch bodies in order to EAT and RAPE.
The Illuminati have fore-told their intent by their Illuminati card game where there is the "Rapture Card". To us, at the time, when revealed, it meant going up but to them, it means snatching humans to feed their evil ones that rape, drink the blood and eat the flesh in their Satanic Rituals. Paul understood this and warned about it.
We are now the End Time Generation that could well see a False Rapture where people will be told to go into the Wilderness and then they will be snatched rather than wait for God's Four Angels to do His Work. They are too anxious, not ground in the Word of God. They are deceived.
Those that are so occupied with a Rapture, quite frankly, fail to look at the bigger picture of Bible Prophecy. To them, it is all about proving a pre-trib. Rapture which is exactly what those that follow Lucifer had planned so long ago. There are many of us that also used to believe the same way. Thank God for showing us the truth.
So, in all the examples given by the pre-tribulation believers, there is none that left this Earth but there is a group that will be harvested in the End of Days. See here:
Rev. 14:19-20 (NKJ) "So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs."
Does this sound like a violent action being taken? What takes place when grapes are harvested in the wine-press? They get squished until all liquid is removed. Now, this could be likened to the Life-Blood of the unbelievers. And when does this take place? Can you say, at the Wrath of God?
The people, especially in the West, have been conditioned to believe that this Rapere is good; it is associated with "Light". II Corin 7:14. " And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
Let me give you another example of where a flood is used. In this case, it is to try to destroy God's people but God intervenes on their behalf. It is yet in the future. Go to Revelation 12:14-16
14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. 16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
Does God rescue this woman who was taken into the Wilderness by the four angels? Or did they make their own arrangements to get into the Wilderness and what Wilderness? Can a people be deceived if they take action outside of God's Word?
And here is where the truth of this teaching has been distorted. Who is the woman? Is it the Elect? Is it Israel? Is it the Church. Is it the true ecclesia made up of natural Hebrews and Gentiles? Yes to all four of these question. These make up "Spiritual Israel which are the Sheep that Jesus Christ came to save?"
If you, a Gentile, has been saved by the Blood of the Lamb, then you have been grafted into the Root, Yahshua. You are not some separate group that gets taken out before Great Tribulation but you are taken to a place of safety just like Moses & Israelites, like Noah & family, like Lot and his daughters. It is a consistent pattern. This so important to understand.
This Forum, RapturebilbeProphecyForum has hammered this topic over and over again and hopefully some of you will graduate to the next class which is the one that knows who it is and to make sure you are among the Chosen.
If you are not among the "Chosen", you have a hard road ahead of you and you will be among the Tribulation Saints. Only God knows who He will give the honor of being among The Chosen. One will have the body and soul saved. The other will have the Body destroyed but the Soul saved. And there will be some who make it to the end. There is NO PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE.
But, let it be understood, not all that say, "Lord, Lord, shall enter the Kingdom of God."
Is that so hard to believe? Is it too hard for you to believe that God can and will provide for His Elect in a place of safety while a/c and his horde go about killing those that didn't get included in the Elect group but are among the Left Behind to face persecution and even death for His sake?
There is one sure scripture that tells us exactly the time of a Meeting in the Air. "1 Thess 4:16-17 (KJV)
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
This is the scripture that, in itself, is the single best proof of when the living get translated to meet the Lord in the Air.
None of this takes speculation because God's Word has made it clear when and what.
The when for the Elect to be taken into the Wilderness is 3 1/2 years before Yahshua's Second Coming.
And again, when does this happen? Before the Wrath of God when He will have his angels gather the Grape Harvest that will leave the blood flowing up to the depth of a horses' bridle in the Final, Great Battle. He will cleanse the earth with fire.
What it takes is keeping the faith and enduring in the time allotted to us on this earth.
Just as He took care of others before us, He will also see us through. Just as there were others that died, there will be His that will die before His Return.
Gerlinda
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