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There is a Difference Between Paradise and the Garden of Eden



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Lucifer-Father of Cain: Chpt. 8 Difference between Paradise and the Garden of Eden


For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes





Chapter 8: Difference between Paradise and the Garden of Eden




By Gerlinda



Most Seekers of Truth, who do not understand the 3 World Ages, also don't understand there is a difference between Paradise located at the Third Heaven and The Garden of Eden located here on earth.

This chapter was one of my favorites because we learn that there is a difference between the two places that are spoken about so often in the same manner.

Paradise was created to house The new Jerusalem and it also is the very place where Adam was made by God and where the woman was created from the rib of Adam. They would have had an eternity of peace and joy had they only obeyed God's command to stay away from the Tree of Life that stood in the center of Paradise.

Until reading Zen's book, I, like many others, considered Paradise and the Garden of Eden to be one and the same yet one is located in the 3rd heaven and the other is located on earth.

Zen tells that the Bible tells that out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witness shall truth be established. This is what Zen does. He provides the proof. In fact, the books, such as The Book of Enoch, The Martyrdom of Isaiah, Vision of Paul and Apocalypse of Peter confirm there are 10 levels of heaven.

Paradise is located at the third heaven and is where Lucifer seduced Eve and impregnated her with Cain which began the Race of the Unrighteous Seed. The Tree of Life stands there. After their fall, their bodies are changed to Flesh and Blood and banished to The Garden of Eden, located on earth.

"He that hath an ear. Let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God." Revelation 2:7


We can see that there is a promise given to those that over-cometh that they will go to The Paradise of God. Now, knowing that Paradise is in the Third Heaven and that is where Adam & Eve once were before being banished, we can grasp even better that God gave Adam and Eve a promise of Redemption in some future day when He (God) would become flesh also, and pay the Redemption Price with His own Blood. This was prophesied and fulfilled in the Only Begotten Son of God.

There is a restoration back to Paradise for those that choose the Giver of Salvation, Jesus Christ.

Now, when we hear of the New Jerusalem coming down, we need to understand that it doesn't come down after some 1,000 years after the physical return of Christ but comes down at the same time that the Dead in Christ will rise and then the living changed to meet the Lord in the Air. In the Air is where The New Jerusalem is located. Every eye shall see Him; it is not some unseen event for a group of people who believe they will be raptured 7 years prior or even 3 1/2 years prior to the End of the Age when Jesus Christ Returns.

These that manage, somehow to survive Great Tribulation by the Grace of God, shall be those that will join the Dead to go to this place called Paradise where The New Jerusalem is located. That is such an awesome promise for those of us who can only try to imagine it's grandeur.

Zen Garcia says that one of his favorite books is the Apocryphal Vision of Paul. He tells that there is a place for sinners and the wicked, a description of why some suffer and what they did to deserve their punishment. He says he has found no other book which details Paradise as much as this single text. Here is his direct quote:

And there were by the bank of the river, trees planted full of different fruits. And I looked towards the rising of the sun, and I saw there trees of great size full of fruits; and that land was more brilliant than silver and gold; and there were vines growing on those date palms and myriads of shoots, and myriads of clusters of each branch. And I said to the Archangel: What is this my lord? And he says to me: This is the Archerusian lake;, and within it the city of God. All are not permitted to enter into it, except whosoever shall repent of his sins; and as soon as he shall repent, and alter his life, he is delivered to Michael , and they cast him into the Archerusian lake, and then he brings him in the city of God, near the righteous. And I wondered and blessed God at all that I saw.

I will not type up the lengthy quote but go on to the point of where the angel says, This is Paradise, where Adam and Eve transgressed. And I saw there a beautiful tree of great size, on which the Holy Spirit, rested; and from the root of it there came forth all manner of most sweet smelling water, parting into four channels.

And I said to the angel. My lord, what is this tree, that there comes forth from it a great abundance of this water; and where does it go? And he answered and said to me: Before the heaven and the earth existed, he divided them into four kingdoms and heads, of which the names are Phison, Gehon, Tigris, Euphrates. And having again taken hold of me by the hand, he led me near the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And he says to me: This is the tree by means, of which death came into the world, And Adam took of the fruit of it from his wife and ate; and thereafter they were cast out hence. And he showed me another, The tree of life, and said to me: This the cherubim and the flaming sword guard. The Vision of Paul

Zen goes on to give Enoch's account that speak of the roots of this tree extending all the way down to earth's ends. A reading of Zen's Book, "Lucifer - Father of Cain" will give you much insight into all of this.

Paul's description of the four rivers are the same as the four rivers whose head waters were in Turkey. Only the Tigris and Euphrates in our day still have water flowing from the source. The other two have disappeared. It sure brings to mind the Masonic saying, "As above so below". Their information given to them by the Fallen Angels is based upon what these Angels knew existed above. Since they no longer have hope to return nor do their off-spring, they have created an Empire here on earth to copy that which they once knew above.

Meanwhile, these Illuminated Ones are earnestly working their evil to bring about their New World Order based upon the Old Order that they once had. Time is running out for them. One big issue on their agenda is to destroy all believers in The Lord God Almighty and His Christ.

Righteous humanity is given a chance to return to light and immortality. Evil has been given only a certain period of time. There are only two choices and no man can serve two masters.

Zen quotes how:

Paradise is large enough to be the dwelling place of Adam and his posterity provided they kept the divine command. Now it is a dwelling place of the souls of the Righteous and it's keepers are Enoch and Elijah. Elijah, the unweeded and Enoch, the married man that the unwedded may not exalt them-selves above the married, as if, forsooth, Paradise were suited for the unwed only.

The Souls of sinners are without Paradise, in a deep place called Eden. After Resurrection, the souls of the Righteous and the sinners will put on their bodies. The Righteous will enter into heaven, which will become the Land of Righteous; while the sinners will remain upon the earth."


I know that scripture speaks of the burning of earth to cleanse it. So, I do not even dare to say what is meant by the sinners will remain upon the earth. Except that when earth is burned, these will be burned also.

We highly recommend "Lucifer - Father of Cain" by Zen Garcia, which can be gotten at Amazon.com

//www.amazon.com/Lucifer-Father-Cain-Zen-Garcia/dp/0557369088

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Re: There is a Difference Between Paradise and the Garden of Eden

I have just listened to this latest video by Zen Garcia in it's entirety and there is something that became more clear to me through this listen.

I had said that Paradise is where Adam was made by God but now, more clearly understand that no, he was made in front of the angels and then placed "up" to Paradise, which is located in the third heaven. Yes, that is also the location of The New Jerusalem. I knew that he was placed up to Paradise but didn't stop to consider that he must have been made somewhere else if moved "UP".

Zen spends a great deal of time correcting someone who claimed that Zen said that the Serpent had sexual relations with Eve in Paradise. Zen explains that this defilement of Eve did not take place until after she had lost her "brightness" because she ate of the tree and caused Adam to do likewise so that they could become gods and know the difference between good and evil. Then, after she put on the skin of humanity (remember, God clothed them with skin?) she conceived Cain, whom has been referred to as the Son of Lucifer. Eve did not even have the ability to become pregnant until she put on the nature of a human which being covered in skin is another way of showing the change.

Zen recommends the I and II Book of Adam and Eve to get a much clearer picture of what all took place when they were kicked out of Paradise and put down upon the earth where Lucifer and his fallen ones already had been placed. God told them they would be safe in the Cave of Treasures where they spent most of their time but when they had to come out, they were always met with the wily ones who came as angels of light.

What would help us to understand the creation story better is to know that Genesis 1 is speaking of the time when the Fallen Ones were banished to earth. They are the builders of the great cities, many which have been found under the sea. They had become so destructive of their abode here on earth with their evil ways defiling the very animals and plant life that God destroyed earth in a flood that is not the flood of Noah. Jeremiah 4:23-27 tells how there was nothing left, not even the birds. This is all hard to align until you match it up with Noah's flood in which there was the family of 8, animals and birds that survived. Now, you are left with the fact that there was a pre-Adamic earth. Creation was perfect but something happened that made it Null & Void. God made it all new and then told Adam and Eve to "replenish" the earth.

The prophecies of Genesis 3 begin the story of Adam and Eve after their fall. The whole issue of whether there is a Seed-line of Lucifer is made easy just by reading the curse that God placed on the Seed of the Serpent...that there would be enmity between his seed and the Seed of the Woman, which is Christ Jesus who defeated Satan's power over death when He stepped on his head although Satan believed he had won when Christ's heels were bruised by the nail on the tree.

When Jesus's spirit left His body, it went to Sheol, Tartus, Hell...all the same place, which is located in the place called Paradise. There are two compartments to that area. The side that held Abraham and other righteous ones was called Abraham's Bosom. We know from reading the story about the Rich man in Hell who begged for a drop of water from the other side that this is so. There is a great gulf between the two. Zen refers to this gulf as the Archerusian Lake.

Apparently, Christians have thrown all of these terms into the same basket, even including The Lake of Fire and Outer Darkness into the mix. There is so much that is being learned in these Last Days just like it was promised to the Prophet Daniel. In fact both Hell and Heaven are in the same place, in Paradise in the Third Heaven. That leaves the Abyss as another place where the Fallen Angels have been imprisoned. But, the rulers of this earth are determined to open the Gates of the Abyss through the endeavors of CERN.

Again, this is another example of how much can be added to what we think we know about the Bible by reading the Books of the Apocrypha. There are two Seed Lines. Who do you think is determined to destroy God's created human and replace it with his own creation called Transhumanism? Who do you think is determined to grab up the one place that God calls His Land...Israel? Why is it the armies of the world are gathering to do war? They believe they will defeat the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The lord of the fallen ones is a Liar. He is the father of Cain and his off-spring.

Gerlinda

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Re: There is a Difference Between Paradise and the Garden of Eden

I have just listened to this latest video by Zen Garcia in it's entirety and there is something that became more clear to me through this listen.

I had said that Paradise is where Adam was made by God but now, more clearly understand that no, he was made in front of the angels and then placed "up" to Paradise, which is located in the third heaven. Yes, that is also the location of The New Jerusalem. I knew that he was placed up to Paradise but didn't stop to consider that he must have been made somewhere else if moved "UP".

Zen spends a great deal of time correcting someone who claimed that Zen said that the Serpent had sexual relations with Eve in Paradise. Zen explains that this defilement of Eve did not take place until after she had lost her "brightness" because she ate of the tree and caused Adam to do likewise so that they could become gods and know the difference between good and evil. Then, after she put on the skin of humanity (remember, God clothed them with skin?) she conceived Cain, whom has been referred to as the Son of Lucifer. Eve did not even have the ability to become pregnant until she put on the nature of a human which being covered in skin is another way of showing the change.

Zen recommends the I and II Book of Adam and Eve to get a much clearer picture of what all took place when they were kicked out of Paradise and put down upon the earth where Lucifer and his fallen ones already had been placed. God told them they would be safe in the Cave of Treasures where they spent most of their time but when they had to come out, they were always met with the wily ones who came as angels of light.

What would help us to understand the creation story better is to know that Genesis 1 is speaking of the time when the Fallen Ones were banished to earth. They are the builders of the great cities, many which have been found under the sea. They had become so destructive of their abode here on earth with their evil ways defiling the very animals and plant life that God destroyed earth in a flood that is not the flood of Noah. Jeremiah 4:23-27 tells how there was nothing left, not even the birds. This is all hard to align until you match it up with Noah's flood in which there was the family of 8, animals and birds that survived. Now, you are left with the fact that there was a pre-Adamic earth. Creation was perfect but something happened that made it Null & Void. God made it all new and then told Adam and Eve to "replenish" the earth.

The prophecies of Genesis 3 begin the story of Adam and Eve after their fall. The whole issue of whether there is a Seed-line of Lucifer is made easy just by reading the curse that God placed on the Seed of the Serpent...that there would be enmity between his seed and the Seed of the Woman, which is Christ Jesus who defeated Satan's power over death when He stepped on his head although Satan believed he had won when Christ's heels were bruised by the nail on the tree.

When Jesus's spirit left His body, it went to Sheol, Tartus, Hell...all the same place, which is located in the place called Paradise. There are two compartments to that area. The side that held Abraham and other righteous ones was called Abraham's Bosom. We know from reading the story about the Rich man in Hell who begged for a drop of water from the other side that this is so. There is a great gulf between the two. Zen refers to this gulf as the Archerusian Lake.

Apparently, Christians have thrown all of these terms into the same basket, even including The Lake of Fire and Outer Darkness into the mix. There is so much that is being learned in these Last Days just like it was promised to the Prophet Daniel. In fact both Hell and Heaven are in the same place, in Paradise in the Third Heaven. That leaves the Abyss as another place where the Fallen Angels have been imprisoned. But, the rulers of this earth are determined to open the Gates of the Abyss through the endeavors of CERN.

Again, this is another example of how much can be added to what we think we know about the Bible by reading the Books of the Apocrypha. There are two Seed Lines. Who do you think is determined to destroy God's created human and replace it with his own creation called Transhumanism? Who do you think is determined to grab up the one place that God calls His Land...Israel? Why is it the armies of the world are gathering to do war? They believe they will defeat the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The lord of the fallen ones is a Liar. He is the father of Cain and his off-spring.

Gerlinda

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