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While JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"  Matt. 24:29 (KJV)

 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:   Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." I Thess. 4:16-17 (KJV)

"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed."  I Corin. 15:52

The "Resurrection" has been erroneously labeled The "Rapture". 

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10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

Luke 21:25-28

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.






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Lucifer, Father of Cain...The Light

For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes

In this book, the author Zen Garcia digs very deep and wide into the many resources that have been written for mankind to help them understand creation as best as possible.

There are many questions we may ask; however there are two that might come up more often than most:

1. Why did Lucifer Fall

2. Jesus, whom is not created as the angels but is called "The Begotten of the Father". What does that mean?

The answers that I will attempt to provide will be kept at the simplest level as possible yet I hope it brings to the top of how it began. Please remember, the 66 Books of the Bible only contain a smidgen of the many aspects of creation that took place. Therefore, should you dispute this simple account I hope to put together, I ask only that you do your own research or keep silent.

So, let's begin. God's day begins in the evening (All was dark) This is contrary to the way most of us think of it.

The angels were created on the evening of the first day, without voice, they didn't understand their creation and thought within themselves that they were self-existent and not made.

On the morning of the first day God said in an audible and commanding voice, " Let there be light " and immediately the effused light was created

I'm going to stop at this point of the quote and bring to your memory that it was at the Feast of Tabernacles that Jesus attended that he did something that pointed to whom He was. The gospels tell us that He did this during the three separate Feast of Tabernacles that took place during his earthly ministry of 3 1/2 years. When a certain portion of the Temple ritual took place, He stood and loudly spoke words that pointed to Himself.

The Temple was gloriously illuminated by giant, golden candelabra...in fact four of them. So well was the area covered in light that it could be seen nearly all over Israel. Also, there were the individual torches of light that were carried by the many, many priest as they walked in line down to the Pool of Siloam where water would be brought up, carried through the water gate and back into the temple. It was during this time that He stood and said, I am the light of the world , whoever follows me will never walk in darkness but will have the light of life. " John 8:12

Now, back to the quote:
When the angels saw the creation of light, they knew of a certainty that He who had made light had created them. And they shouted with a loud voice and praised Him and marvelled at His creation of Light, as the blessed teacher saith, ' When the Creator made that light, the angels marvelled there at. : and as it is said in Job, " When I created The Morning Star, all my angels praised me ". The Book of Bee 6

Do you see it? Before Light was called forth, God had created the angels. They were on hand to see the moment when all things became visible. Jesus, The Only Begotten of the Father was called forth.

The God-Head became visible. The Father is invisible (no one sees the Father, the Bible clearly has told us) but through the visible , begotten Son, is God visible. By Him, all things were created. The mind wanted to perform a deed through the Word of the Invisible Spirit.

This is the best explanation I've ever read on the God-Head and what it meant that Jesus Christ was Begotten. He was not created like the angles. In fact the angels were created and on hand before the Light was called forth so that they could witness how the Trinity together brought the Creation into being.

It is such a wonder to consider how God allowed all of the angels to witness His creating all things through the Son, THE WORD . They would know and understand their place in the Kingdom.

The Book of Jubilees tells us more on this.

But there was someone who did not like his place in the Kingdom. It is believed that he was the first angel created, who also held the top position over all of the other angels. He was the Archangel. Under him, was Michael, the Archangel. His authority was only below The Light, The Word, The Creator himself. But he wanted to be above the very creator that made him.

He had become so proud, so full of himself. of his own position that he refused to submit to the authority of Jesus (Yahushush) and began to plot an over-throw. There is your first and greatest REBEL.

Because he was not able to become greater than the Power that created him, Lucifer ( The Adversary-Satan ) not only rebelled but took with him 1/3 of the angels under his authority. They were all cast out of the Third Heaven.

Next will come the creation of man, which I'll write about in the next issue, God willing, regarding this wonderful book by Zen Garcia.

I'd like to pay tribute to this man, who is so humble, joyful in his circumstances, which has allowed him all of the time to research the sources that have been kept hidden from man by the evil Powers that Be. Now is the time for the secrets to be made known.

We have the many sources on our website here, free for the viewing. Why not do some researching on your own and get enlightened in ways you may have only wondered about before but which are now being made known to us.

We do not, necessarily agree with everything in the book but there are many bits of information that help to put together the many blank areas that we presently don't get in the normal reading of the 66 books of the Bible.


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Re: Lucifer, Father of Cain...The Light

For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes

With all credit to the author Zen Garcia, I am going to copy this chapter of his book exactly as written because his own words give the best explanation about what was it that caused the fall of Lucifer and what transpired. Gerlinda

From Lucifer- Father of Cain

Chapter 3 - War in Heaven End of the 1st World Age

Before Lucifer was to be cast from the upper heavens, the Lord allowed him to tempt the resolve of all the angels of Heaven; He wanted to see which would be incited for rebellion and which would remain loyal to His dominion and monarchy. While Lucifer was going to and fro among the angels of the Lord testing their allegiance, many were in quandary as to whom they should serve. With war impending, sides would have to be chosen carefully as the winner would rule supreme over heavenly affairs.

Contrary to belief, Satan never had chance in usurping the throne of Yahweh or the dominion of yahushuah, for how can a creature ever rule supreme over it's Creator. Such a thought is beyond comprehension and yet Lucifer's appeal was so great that he convinced 1/3rd of the angels of every order to side with his rebellion.

Most were loyal to Yahweh and Yahushuah, yet many wavered in commitment as to whom to serve, Lucifer and the New World Order of Yahweh and the Natural Order. This rebellion caused the Holy Trinity to reconstitute a plan by which all of the angels of the 1st World Age would be given free-will to incarnate into flesh.

During the 2nd World Age, we as the spirits of the 1st world Age would be tried and tested through life in a fleshly body, where as humans we would learn about creation through the experience of both good and evil. Yahweh allowed the Lucifer rebellion to test the loyalty of His angels as all would be given chance again to prove allegiance and loyalty. 1/3rd of all the hosts of heaven from every class of angel affixed themselves to Lucifer , believing the same lie which caused his own downfall - that being the promise, desire for godhood and selfish rule.

His persuasive abilities incited those that followed him to attempt an overthrow of Yahushauah's dominion. There was war in heaven as he and his hosts fought against the Lord and His angels. For this insurrection he and all the hosts that supported him in rebellion were banished from the realms above the six heavens.

While not much has been written to clarify this accounting, there is a quote from the First Book of Adam and Eve which gives readers insight into this little known about occurrence.

"But now, O Adam, we will make known to you what came over us through him, before his fall from heaven. 9 He gathered together his hosts, and deceived them, promising to give them a great kingdom, a divine nature and other promises he made them. 10. His hosts believed that his word was true, so they yielded to him and renounced the glory of God. 11 he then sent for us - according to the orders in which we were - to come under his command, and to accept his vein promise. But we would not, and we did not take his advice.

12. Then after he had fought with God and had dealt forwardly with Him, he gathered together his hosts and made war with us. And if it had not been for God's strength that was with us, we could not have prevailed against him to furl him from heaven.

13 But when he fell from among us, there was great joy in heaven, because of his going down from us. For if he had remained in heaven, nothing, not even one angel would have remained in it.

14 But God in His mercy drove him from among us to this dark earth; for he had become darkness itself and a worker of unrighteousness.

15 And he continued, O Adam, to make war against you, until he tricked you and made you come out of the garden, to this strange land, where all these trials have come to you. And death, which God brought brought to him, he has also brought to you, O Adam, because you obeyed him, and trespassed against God."

16 Then all the angels rejoiced and praised God, and asked Him not to destroy Adam this time for his having sought to enter the garden, but bear with him until the fulfillment of the promise and to help him in this world until he was free from Satan's hand.

The 1st Book of Adam and Eve, 55

Cast out of the upper heavens, Lucifer as Satan (the adversary) was banished with his hosts to wander the lower heavens in search of a kingdom to rule. From the 2nd until the 6th day, he and his rebel angels had free roam of the lower heavens and as the Sumerian tales of the Annunaki relate could and possibly did explore the myriad planets and moons of this solar system, establishing what are termed as 'way-stations' through-out.

How far and wide his explorations encompasses and how much time passed between the 2nd and 6th day we may neer know but what we do know is personnel from NASA as well as other national space agencies are leaking stories, photos and even videos detailing the possibility of megalithic type structures and cities having been in existence upon not only our own moon and Mars but perhaps other planets andmoons also within this solar system. Having free roam of the planets from the 2nd until the 6th day, Satan and his hosts had plenty of time to build such structures and to establish such cities.

Once the Trinity formed the 2nd soul endowed Adam, Adam of Paradise on the 6th day, Satan would seek to assail his revenge against him as the lord wished to grand dominion of paradise (the 3rd heaven0 to this Adam. Told to eat from every tree except that of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, once Eve as the feminine nature was split off from Adam of Paradise' hermaphroditic nature, Satan would plot his revenge against Adam of Light upon them.

His seduction of Eve and impregnation of her with Cain caused all three to transgress the one law concerning the tree of death. Consequentially all three were cast out of Paradise to thelowest region of physical creation, the lower visible Earth. Here the 2nd world age, the age of flesh would begin with the serpent's line and birth of Cain.

While we are not provided with ample scripture to conclude exactly what occurred during the 1st World Age and the war in heaven, we do know from certain new TEstament texts tht this age ended in a cataclysmic deluge but not the same one Noah was spared from. That deluge occurred during the 2nd World Age after the incursion of the watchers during the time of Jared which I will cover in a later chapter.

I behold the earth and lo it was without form and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. I behold the mountains and lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo there was no man, and all the birds of heavens were fled. I beheld, and lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end. Jeremiah 4:23-29

That is the end of Zen Garcia's portion on this part of the book. Pages 63-65


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