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Re: Why do you even bother, Bob?

part two

It was through her visions she believed that Jesus Christ was coming back through Orion's Belt. The obvious flaw is that it isn't supported by the Bible, and it is a pivotal teaching connected to the SDA and New Age/occult teachings. The teachings of Theosophy and the Ascended Masters include Orion. I won't waste my key strokes on her associating Orion's Belt with the coming UFO agenda. Its far too long and of little value. One of the obvious giveaways of Jesuit/Masonic influence as to SDA occult teaching is their use of the "All-Seeing-Eye" occult symbolism. Their publications carry illustrations and pictures with only one eye visible. It is done by blocking out or obscuring one eye or casting a dark shadow over one eye as to be hidden. This is a hidden in plain sight example of the "All-Seeing-Eye", like that which appears on the back of $1-dollar bill's truncated pyramid. "The message is that nothing is hidden from the all-seeing-eye of him with whom we have to do with," quoting Mrs. White. This reference is obviously not to the God of the Bible, but rather the eye of Lucifer. Use of the "hidden eye" symbol is widely used by the Satanic and Occult community, embracing magazines that most of you would know by name.

The fact is that the SDA cult uses Masonic logos in its printed materials. Like with the Word of Faith movement, unless you ask questions, they will not tell you anything. The major issue that defines the SDA's as a cult is the fact that they do not, I repeat, they reject the idea that salvation is by the grace of God through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the Cross. SDA doctrine believes and teaches that we need to keep the Old Testament Law to finish the work of your salvation. If you fail to keep the law, you are not saved. I addressed that point in one of my posts on the "Aberrations of Seventh Day Adventists". The fact is that if anyone is trying to keep the Law, their salvation by grace through faith is abrogated. It is canceled!

The larger scope of the Jesuit One-World-Government that originated at the Congress of Wilhelmsbad in 1782 came away with seven primary goals:

1. The elimination of patriotism
2. The elimination of inheritance
3. The elimination of private property
4. The elimination of religion
5. The elimination of the family
6. The elimination of all government
7. The creation of a world government

In 1773, Mayor Amschel Bauer Rothschild, in a meeting in Frankfurt, Germany, with twelve of his most closest friends, and convinced them that if they worked together, they could rule the world. The Illuminati later adopted the Hegelian Dialectic or (thesis - antithesis - synthesis) as their method to achieve their goals.

With what I have shared to this point in this post and the three previous segments, the reader should be able to see how religion and politics are used by those working to control the world. When it comes to politics and religion, most people are very opinionated about what they believe. We would not expect less. Originally, the efforts to destroy religion were approached through war and violence, but with the Enlightenment Era, it took on other masks to discredit religious belief and faith. If you have thought some of Pope Francis' statements have been in conflict with either his church's theology or Scripture, it is not the reflections of a senile old man, but rather an act of intentional sabotage. The current Jesuits Superior-General, Adolfo Nicholas Pachon, assumed his post in 2008, but he announced on May 20th of this year that he will be stepping down as Superior-General at the next General Congress of the Jesuits. This came on the heels of the announcement that Pope Francis might be retiring as well. This fact was shared by Pope Francis to the Italian media in early August of 2014.

These facts comes as a complete surprise to many; however, it may have more to do with the fact that [he the Jesuit General Superior Pachon] and the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, and former Cardinal and current Pope Francis, Gorgio Bergoglio are defendants in a case with the International Common Law Court of Justice in Brussels, that convened in April of 2014. The three defendants, Welby, Pachon, and Bergoglio are accused of murder and child trafficking, The court has been taking eye-witness testimony depositions for several months now. The Italian press had already taken notice that several high-ranking Vatican leaders have suddenly resigned or retired, without giving reason for doing so. Secretary of State for the Vatican, Cardinal Bertone, was also facing potential indictment at the time of his announced resignation earlier this year. The previous Pope, Benedict XVI was, himself, indicted for the same crimes, which led to his early retirement. All of this has led many to as such perceiving the reports as being a huge admission of guilt. Pope Benedict XVI, cannot leave the Vatican grounds lest he risk being arrested by Interpol authorities. This was the reason, at his retirement, why he flew the short 8-mile distance by helicopter, rather than by car, to his retirement compound owned by the Vatican at Castel Gandolfo. Interpol was laying in wait to arrest Benedict if he set foot onto Italian soil outside the Vatican city/state so the Vatican opted for a helicopter flight to the retirement compound.

On September 3rd, 2014, it was announced that Cardinal Dolan will be the grand marshal of the 2015 New York Saint Patrick's Day Parade; and, it will permit sodomites to openly participate in the 2015 St. Patrick's Day Parade. I heard in less than thirty-five minutes from my Catholic friends this announcement. They are furious to put it gently. Cardinal Dolan even went so far as to say God bless the sodomites. I saved the video clip because it is a blanket endorsement of where Rome is moving towards.

Numerous articles have appeared at Internet blog sites have related that Jesuit infiltration of SDA leadership and local churches has caused an identity crisis within the SDA cult. The Jesuit infiltration of the SDA's has been news for more than ten years in religious media and the Internet.

As I was about writing my notes for this series of posts, I have been wondering about something that has been bothering me back to when I first stated that I thought the "Pre-Wrath-Rapture-Babble" site was a closet SDA disinformation site to play with peoples' heads. i have been researching and studying the Roman Catholic Church for as far back as I can recall. I began to be interested in the geo-political world events beginning with the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, his brother Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King. Coupled with being a history major in college and church history in seminary, the threads all came together in a plausible scenario. When I first read Jon Eric Phelps book, 'Vatican Assassins', a picture was already taking form in the back of my mind. Ironically, Jon Eric Phelps was also influenced as a result of the assassination of President Kennedy. He was just a young elementary school child when the President was assassinated, and more traumatized than I because of our age difference, I was in my twenties.

As I was typing this into my computer, it began to occur to me that the "Pre-Wrath-Rapture-Babble" site just might possibly be a "Jesuit Coadjutor" "disinformation" site. You probably are scratching your head, what is a "Jesuit Coadjutor" I'll explain, a "Jesuit Coadjutor" is a person that is sympathetic person and aides the mission of the Roman Catholic Church. They do not necessary have to be a Catholic, they may have been educated at a Jesuit college or university, or they may be from a Catholic background. They may have been raised Catholic or have a family member that is Catholic. Jon Eric Phelps uses the term in his book 'Vatican Assassins'.

Several things get my discerning attention at the "Pre-Wrath-Rapture-Babble" site. First, it is the heavy posting on the spurious books of the Apocrypha. Second, it is the heavy posting of SDA sites. Third, it is the absolutely absurd posts of sensational headline stories but at close examination, there is no substance of content. Fourth, posts that are simply idiotic, like "The Bride of Christ is not the Church", or "The Ecclesia began with Abraham", or "Septuagint vs. Masoretic - Hebrew Masoretic is a corrupted Old Testament Canon". These are bogus from the very beginning. There is not a serious theologian today that would espouse such nonsense let alone give credence for such unfounded, unsubstantiated statements. Fifth, it pretends to be an orthodox site, while in fact, it reads more like a supermarket tabloid rag like 'The Enquirer'. Sixth, it keeps drumming its same old tune beat like the Energizer bunny, over and over again, and never backing up its statements and quotes with credible evidence.

Ask yourself this very question in the first person singular tense, If I were a genuine Christian web site, why would I bring ridicule, shame, and criticism for hosting and posting of lies that attempt to discredit and undermine the Word of God? I would be interested in hearing others' thoughts.

For example, I noted above their posting on "The Bride of Christ is not the Church". On September 1st, they posted an article that defines the "bride" as the "New Jerusalem" from a web site called "True Light Ministries". They hang their doctrine on just two passages of Revelation: Revelation 21:1,2 and 21:9-11, while all along denying that "The Bride of Christ is the Church", which has at least 24 verses of Scripture that offer a much stronger case for its defense and existence. It's almost as if they go looking for controversial issues to distract the believer, in order to play mind games, but yet never telling the whole story. I will deal with the "Pre-Wrath-Rapture-Babble" site post in a separate post by itself.

I am inclined, and beginning to believe they are something "more" along the line of a "Jesuit Coadjutor" web site seeking to confuse, deceive, distract, and play mind games with those going their to see what they have posted today to entertain the Low Information folks. The 'History Channel' is one of those television networks that glamorize Freemasonry, exploit books and writings that embrace Gnosticism, and fantasize on esoteric teachings and writings, and at the same time undermining the basic truth of the KJV Bible such as to cause doubt in the minds of folks that trust the KJV Bible. The so-called consultants for the History Channel, that comment, opine or present questions are never mainstream theologians or well-respected and qualified scholars, but are almost always from the radical left spectrum of academia. A regular visitor and consultant at the History Channel on religious programs is the feminist liberal Elaine Pagel, from Princeton Theological Seminary. She is known for her work on the so-called 'Gnostic Gospels'. As an Episcopalian, Elaine Pagel is a major voice within the feminist Sophia Movement of the 1990's. She has long been identified with the Feminist movement. My point here is that the History Channel producers almost never, or rarely, consult anyone from a conservative theological back- ground, but choose rather to draw upon the fringes of radical liberalism.

Below, the reader will have a running bibliography, meaning that I will add to the list as needed. Having been researching and studying the history of the Counter-Reformation movement of Rome and its hired guns, known as the Pope's army, the Jesuits, I have spent years of work connecting the dots.


F. Tupper Saussy, 'Rulers of Evil'
Jon Eric Phelps, 'Vatican Assassins'
John Daniel, 'The Grand Design Exposed'
Ralph Epperson, 'Masonry, Conspiracy Against Christianity'
Juri Lina, 'Architects of Deception'
Juri Lina, 'Under the Sign of the Scorpion'
John Daniel, 'Scarlet and the Beast'
The Millenari, 'Shroud of Secrecy'
Bill Hughes, 'The Enemy Unmasked'
Bill Hughes, 'The Secret Terrorists'
James Billington, 'Fire In The Eyes of Men'
Noah Webster, 'World Revolution'
Albert Mackey, 'Secret Destiny of America'
William Still, 'New World Order'
Albert Pike, 'Morals and Dogma'
Modern History Project, 'The Freemasons'
Michael Hoffman, 'Usury in Chrisendom: The Mortal Sin that Was and Now is Not'

There will be much more to come, that is if we remain here past the end of September.

Stay awake, alert, and be at work reaching those you know that are unsaved.

God bless

Pastor Bob

Re: Why do you even bother, Bob?



'pastor' bob must not fear God since he continues to attack this site along with Charles Holler on Five Doves spouting off false witnessing......incase they forgot that is one of the commandments....not to bear false witness......


All because why?

Let's see pastor bob believe in a false 7 year pre tribulation rapture lie that was created by the Jesuits using false authors etc to 'con' the protestant church.

Do your homework and find out for yourself. Is there a 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE? ( WATCH THE VIDEOS BELOW FOR THE SCRIPTURAL ANSWER )

Charles Holler continues to attack this site calling the moderator arrogant I will not get into mud slinging but only will say God knows all and the truth will be revealed at the throne of God ....so if you want to continue to slander and bear false witness against the moderator of this site and attack this site that only wants to share the TRUTH of JESUS CHRIST with everyone...then let the LORD judge.....

God Bless


It wasn't until the early or mid 1800's that there was any significant group of believers around the world that looked for a "rapture" of the Church prior to a seven-year tribulation period. The "secret rapture" teaching was NOT taught by the early Church, it was NOT taught by the Church of the first centuries, it was NOT taught by the Reformers, IT WAS NOT TAUGHT BY ANYONE (except a couple Roman Catholic theologians) UNTIL ABOUT THE YEAR 1830!

The Roman Catholic Church had to come up with a view of prophecy to counter the Historic view of prophecy that the Reformers had used to identify the Church of Rome as the 'little horn' and the Harlot of Revelation 17. This new scheme of prophetic interpretation became known as FUTURISM.... It was a Jesuit priest named Ribera who, in the days of the Reformation, first taught that all the events in the book of Revelation were to take place literally during the three and a half years reign of the Antichrist away down at the end of the age. Later, Emmanuel Lacunza, also a Jesuit priest, built on Ribera's teachings, and spent much of his life writing a book titled "The Coming of Messiah in Glory and Majesty." Lacunza, however, wrote under the assumed name of "Rabbi Ben Ezra," supposedly a learned Jew who had accepted Christ as his Saviour; he did this so that the unsuspecting Protestants would accept his book; for the Protestant world then wanted nothing from a Jesuit. His book was published in 1812.

Now enter the name of Edward Irving. Born in Scotland in 1792, Irving discovered Lacunza's book and fell in love with it, translated it into English, and it was published in London in 1827. Then Irving began to hold Bible Conferences throughout Scotland, emphasizing the coming of Jesus to rapture His Church. Later, J.N. Darby then was introduced to the "secret rapture" doctrine by the Irvinites (Followers of Edward Irvin), as well as the famous book by Rabbi Ben-Ezra [Jesuit priest Emmanuel Lacunza]!

Darby was himself a prolific writer and from that time a constant stream of propaganda came from his pen. His writings on biblical subjects number over 30 volumes of 600 pages each. Darby developed and organized "futurism" into a system of prophetic teaching called "dispensationalism." The Secret Rapture teaching was introduced into the United States and Canada between the 1840's and 1870's.

A Congregationalist preacher by the name of C. I. Scofield came under the influence of Darby and the Plymouth Brethren. Scofield became a strong promoter of the teaching that had been promulgated by Darby, whom he considered "the most profound Bible student of modern times." He incorporated this teaching into his SCOFIELD REFERENCE BIBLE. Three million copies were published in the first 50 years! Through this Bible Scofield shrewdly carried the teaching of the Secret Rapture into the very heart of Evangelicalism.

There is one final link in the chain of the development and spread of the rapture theory that should be mentioned in passing. Scofield and Darby influenced D. L. Moody, and Moody influenced the early PENTECOSTAL MOVEMENT. How? you ask. The Assemblies of God is today by far the largest Pentecostal denomination in the world. In 1914 they ordered their Sunday School and study materials from the Moody Press. So the Assemblies of God believed what the Moody Bible Institute taught, which included the "Secret Rapture".



WEEKEND SHOCKCAST: The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie

I really wish that the Pre-Tribulation Rapture wasn’t a Lie. I really do. I wish that we didn’t have to go through three and a half years of extreme persecution. I wish that being a Christian meant that life was a serene experience of clear skies and smooth sailing.

Unfortunately, those of us who wish to live holy and righteous lives in Christ, WILL suffer persecution (2 Tim 3:12). When Paul wrote that to Timothy, he wasn’t thinking of the persecution that you and I have experienced – frowns, disapproval and lost jobs. No, he was referring to the persecution that Christians are experiencing right now in the Arab world – such as with ISIS and Boko Haram.

"Pastor" Bob discredited by Jovial in letter to Five Doves....!

In all fairness to keep the article in context to Jovial letter here is the link

Link: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2014/jovial97-2.htm

Here is a portion of the Jovial letter below:

Jovial wrote:

The article at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2014/pastorbob831-7.htm did the reverse of what is scholarly. It said;

•He "majored in church history, in seminary", as if to set himself up as an expert on church history. That is, it is an attempt to convey the though "trust me, I'm an expert".
•Made at least 11 allegations about church history that I easily disproved in the above simply by quoting what his alleged sources actually said and showing that those sources say the opposite of what he claimed.

That is WAY TOO MANY MISTAKES for someone who allegedly "majored in church history" and wants to use that as credibility and there is a serious problem here. First off, you destroy your own credibility for thoroughness when you make unsupportable claims that cannot be backed up by the sources you are claiming. But when you make claims that are the OPPOSITE of the sources you cite, as was done in many cases in the above, you destroy your credibility on more than just thoroughness, but on reliability as well. Who is going to take someone's word as an expert when their sources say the OPPOSITE of what they claim?

Some people read from history to try to learn from it. I have read everything the early Church Pioneers wrote from at least prior to Jerome because I wanted to understand how they think. Other people simply try to USE history to PROVE their agenda with no real regard to trying to understand how someone different from them thinks differently.

Also, the article at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2014/pastorbob831-7.htm does the opposite of what I try to do. My goal is not to get you to agree with me. I am more concerned about the logic behind what I post than the conclusions. It is one of the reasons I sometimes argue both sides of an issue, and present a case for and against the same issue. I have even at times posted counter arguments I did not agree with in response to what other people have posted just because I felt like both sides of the issue should be examined. I am more concerned about you learning to THINK DEEPLY about a matter and THINK IT THROUGH and use PROPER LOGIC than whether you agree with me. I really believe that if we all learn to THOROUGHLY RESEARCH what we believe, the Church will come to unity on doctrine far faster than if we use underhanded approaches to promote a position, like trying to falsify Church history to get everyone to believe something that is not true.

Now when you demonstrate to someone that what they said was wrong, a scholarly person will stop making the false claim. But when people try to USE history to promote their personal agenda, it is not uncommon for them to continue to make the same claims over and over again. You can show someone a Hebrew text of Macabees, and they will still claim there is no Hebrew manuscript of Macabees when their doctrine is their god, and all facts must bow to the god of doctrine. You can quote where Origen quoted from the Apocrypha, will they still continue to say he spoke out against the Apocrypha when people are of the opinion that all facts must bow to the god of doctrine and it is OK to say ANYTHING, as long as it promotes the doctrines you want people to believe.

Some of these claims are also found at http://www.truthnet.org/Bible-Origins/6_The_Apocrypha_The_Septugint/ , which Pastor Bob apparently copied from somewhere, but without giving the source, giving me the impression he wrote it himself. That web site appears to have plagarized the arguments from page 7 of Basic Theology By Dag Heward-Mills.

Pastor Bob did not deliniate where the text he took from this URL and what he added himself begins and ends. When you plagarize something, and don't read what you plagarized and don't research whether it is true or not, well, you destroy your credibility on numerous levels.



Re: Why do you even bother, Bob?

Again, I say, "Why do you even bother, Bob?

Re: Why do you even bother, Bob?


Re: Why do you even bother, Bob?

Here is the second part of Bob's on-going false accusations and name calling, which he will be held accountable for in God's Court and somehow, some way, it will be dealt with...of that you can be sure. Some people really need to be deflated in order to show blind followers who can't seem to spend their own time reading the Word of God to see if all that is being said is worthy of a man called "Pastor".

Remember, Enoch was told plenty by God about these Wolves in Sheep's clothing.


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