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The "Resurrection" has been erroneously labeled The "Rapture". 
THERE IS NO RAPTURE

WHY THE TITLE RAPTURE BIBLE PROPHECY FORUM?
WE STARTED OUT BELIEVING IN A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE
BUT FOUND OVER TIME AROUND 2006 THAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT SHARE A 
BIBLE VERSE WHATSOEVER INDICATING A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE

BIBLE VERSES EVIDENCE:

While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"  Matt. 24:29 (KJV)


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Yahusha is I Am That I Am  (Exodus 3:14)

Yahusha is YHWH  come in the flesh, He put aside His Diety to become a human, born of  a Virgin.

Yahusha is the Word, As The Most High, He spoke all things seen and unseen into existence

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John 14:26
"the breath of life"

But the Comforter, which is "the breath of life", whom the Father will send shall teach you all things.

God is not His  Name but a term.  The Holy Spirit is not a person but the very Breath of the Father.

There is no Trinity.  The Father, YHVH  and Yahusha are One  (John 10:30)

THE BOOK OF ENOCH

NOW IS THE TIME!

 FOR A REMOTE GENERATION THE LAST GENERATION FOR THE ELECT!

REFERENCES IN THE BOOK OF ENOCH TO THE BIBLE

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Book of Enoch: http://tinyurl.com/BkOfEnoch

The book of Second Peter and Jude Authenticate the book of Enoch and Vice Versa

Yahusha/JESUS QUOTED FROM THE SEPTUAGINT:

THE APOSTLES QUOTED FROM THE SEPTUAGINT

JEWS WERE CONVERTING TO CHRISTIANITY

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Re: People will make bad decisions if their pastor is NOT preaching the TRUTH!

Questions to ponder:

Does your 'pastor' teach a false 7 year pre tribulation rapture lie?

Do you still allow his posts on your site/forum and endorse his teachings even after several times 'he' has been found teaching falsely on many topics?

If you know the truth and continue to teach false doctrines what is your excuse?




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"Pastor" Bob discredited by Jovial in letter to Five Doves....!

In all fairness to keep the article in context to Jovial letter here is the link

Link: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2014/jovial97-2.htm


Here is a portion of the Jovial letter below:

Jovial wrote:

The article at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2014/pastorbob831-7.htm did the reverse of what is scholarly. It said;

•He "majored in church history, in seminary", as if to set himself up as an expert on church history. That is, it is an attempt to convey the though "trust me, I'm an expert".
•Made at least 11 allegations about church history that I easily disproved in the above simply by quoting what his alleged sources actually said and showing that those sources say the opposite of what he claimed.

That is WAY TOO MANY MISTAKES for someone who allegedly "majored in church history" and wants to use that as credibility and there is a serious problem here. First off, you destroy your own credibility for thoroughness when you make unsupportable claims that cannot be backed up by the sources you are claiming. But when you make claims that are the OPPOSITE of the sources you cite, as was done in many cases in the above, you destroy your credibility on more than just thoroughness, but on reliability as well. Who is going to take someone's word as an expert when their sources say the OPPOSITE of what they claim?

Some people read from history to try to learn from it. I have read everything the early Church Pioneers wrote from at least prior to Jerome because I wanted to understand how they think. Other people simply try to USE history to PROVE their agenda with no real regard to trying to understand how someone different from them thinks differently.


Also, the article at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2014/pastorbob831-7.htm does the opposite of what I try to do. My goal is not to get you to agree with me. I am more concerned about the logic behind what I post than the conclusions. It is one of the reasons I sometimes argue both sides of an issue, and present a case for and against the same issue. I have even at times posted counter arguments I did not agree with in response to what other people have posted just because I felt like both sides of the issue should be examined. I am more concerned about you learning to THINK DEEPLY about a matter and THINK IT THROUGH and use PROPER LOGIC than whether you agree with me. I really believe that if we all learn to THOROUGHLY RESEARCH what we believe, the Church will come to unity on doctrine far faster than if we use underhanded approaches to promote a position, like trying to falsify Church history to get everyone to believe something that is not true.

Now when you demonstrate to someone that what they said was wrong, a scholarly person will stop making the false claim. But when people try to USE history to promote their personal agenda, it is not uncommon for them to continue to make the same claims over and over again. You can show someone a Hebrew text of Macabees, and they will still claim there is no Hebrew manuscript of Macabees when their doctrine is their god, and all facts must bow to the god of doctrine. You can quote where Origen quoted from the Apocrypha, will they still continue to say he spoke out against the Apocrypha when people are of the opinion that all facts must bow to the god of doctrine and it is OK to say ANYTHING, as long as it promotes the doctrines you want people to believe.

Some of these claims are also found at http://www.truthnet.org/Bible-Origins/6_The_Apocrypha_The_Septugint/ , which Pastor Bob apparently copied from somewhere, but without giving the source, giving me the impression he wrote it himself. That web site appears to have plagarized the arguments from page 7 of Basic Theology By Dag Heward-Mills.

Pastor Bob did not deliniate where the text he took from this URL and what he added himself begins and ends. When you plagarize something, and don't read what you plagarized and don't research whether it is true or not, well, you destroy your credibility on numerous levels.


Shalom,

Joe





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