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While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

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Jovial : "The Various Text Types"

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Jovial (7 Sep 2014)
"The Various Text Types"





At http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2014/pastorbob831-6.htm , several rather wild claims where made about the Textus Receptus. Despite the fact that the Textus Receptus did not exist until the 16th century, it was claimed
•1) As of 1967, the Textus Receptus manuscripts which have survived, as far back as 150 AD, number 5,255 complete copies.
•2) There are 5,210 ancient versions or copies of the Textus Receptus that date back to 150 AD of the early Church.
•From 100-300 AD there are approximately 100 church fathers who wrote and referred extensively to the New Testament Textus Receptus.


This is simply not true. Scholars divide the Greek Witnesses to the New Testament in the following flavors:
•Western Text Type ◦Fragments of manuscripts can be traced back to 2nd-3rd century AD and in many quotations from early Church writers. Mostly found in Western parts of Europe, etc.
◦Most Church quotations from the 100-300 time period match the Greek Western Text Type, not the Byzantine Text Type the Textus Receptus was based on. A minority match the Alexandrian Type, with little to no support in early Church writings for exclusively Byzantine readings.

•Cesarean Text Type ◦Much the same as the Western Text Type, with some Byzantine influence. Mostly found in the mid-east. Some argue that the Western and Cesarean should be considered the same Text Type.

•Alexandrian Text Type ◦Fragments of mss can be traced back to 2nd-3rd century AD, and in quotations from Origen. Mostly found in North Africa and so called because they fit the pattern found in Alexandria Egypt.

•Byzantine Text Type ◦Earliest manuscripts of this Text Type are from about the 5th century AD, but quotations from early Church writers trace this back to about the 4th century AD.


Despite the claims made at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2014/pastorbob831-6.htm , there are few to no occurences of exclusively Byzantine readings prior to the 5th century AD.

In America, most of the debate centers around Alexandrian vs Byzantine as the preferred text. Most KJV Only folks try to pretend like the Western and Cesarean Text Types don't exist.

There's more Text Types, but let's keep it simple for now - if that can be done. The Alexandrian and Byzantine Text Types read closely in terms of content, style, dialect, etc., but differ in what texts are or are not included. In general, the Alexandrian manuscripts (mss) omit many verses contained in the Byzantine. But age doesn't prove that the Byzantine verses were "added", because the Western Text Type tends to support the presence of those verses. However, those verses often read differently in the Western Text type. The following example from Luke 4:4 typifies these

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