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While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"  Matt. 24:29 (KJV)


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PER EMAIL FROM BRUCE WARNER



SO WHO IS IT ?







SO, IF it is NOT the raptured Church/bride who is wedded to Jesus at the wedding of the Lamb IN HEAVEN just BEFORE the Second Coming of the Lord back to earth -- WHO IS IT ?




I am waiting for a response from those 'Bible scholars' who contend that there is NO rapture of the Church/bride BEFORE the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus.




I can't wait to hear from you.







Bruce Warner, Scripturalist for the Lord



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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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Re: Bruce Warner: SO WHO IS IT ?

First let's get the Word on when the marriage actually happens; I'm sure you're familiar with the Olivet discourse at Matt 24+ and here we read about the 10 virgins, and here we are taught the timing:

Matt 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

Okay so the cry is made "Look! Here comes the Bridegroom, He's come back as He promised!" and moreover "go ye out to meet Him"- He's coming, go out and meet Him as He comes. Just as Paul teaches, the shout is made, the trumpet sounds, the meeting in the air as He comes.

Matt 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came;

Okay there we have "the Bridegroom came" so this is the coming spoken of by the Jesus, the two angels, Paul, Peter, John, everyone talking about "the coming of the Lord" (again which Paul clearly teaches is "exceeding bright" with "flaming fire of vengeance" and "destroying the wicked", and also that Christians will most certainly be "alive and remaining" unto this "exceeding bright" event.)

So no marriage yet, and the Lord has come.

and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage


Now that He is back, those that are ready go with Him into the marriage. Who is ready?

Re 19:7 his wife hath made herself ready.

So we see there is no "wedding in heaven" it is on the earth, and it doesn't happen until after the Bridegroom comes back, and we go out and meet Him; then we go to the wedding. What we are seeing in the Revelation at ch.19 isn't "the wedding is over!" but "the time has come"

Ps 102:13 Thou shalt arise, and have mercy upon Zion: for the time to favour her, yea, the set time, is come.

Also, I hope no one is thinking that Jesus is going to return with billions of wedding rings in a pouch, go into a building, and stand for a long, long, long time slowly going through marriage rituals "do you take this man... do you take this woman" none of this is going to happen in this way, it is a spiritual wedding, and the very "supper" of the wedding is shown as the destruction of the wicked:

Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

At any rate, nothing is written in these passages, or elsewhere, speaking of any event prior to the coming of the Lord in which Christians are taken out of the world. It just doesn't exist anywhere but in the imagination. Try to recall the letters to the 7 churches. These are churches for fact. Do we see Jesus saying anything about them not being around for judgment? No, quite the opposite- Jesus is warning them that they're going to be judged so- to paraphrase- repent, or face the judgment. This is being said to the 7 churches, and if you're thinking the 7 seals/trumpets/vials aren't connected to the judgment of the 7 churches, well- they are. That's why there is 7 letters of warning to begin the Revelation; just as Paul warned, be prepared to endure, and suit up for war!

Quite the opposite of "no need for protection; will be taken out of the world"

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The good news here is that it all works out in the end. No one has anything to fear; all fear, grief, etc. is being caused by misunderstanding. My advice for everyone is, don't sweat anything at all- you are in the hands of the Lord and He loves us beyond our ability to presently comprehend. But don't let an error in doctrine cause you any grief, we all will err, we are yet imperfect in understanding. To get to perfect understanding, we're going to have to suffer the errors to be "burned out" - as it were - by the Word of God.

Also, believe me when I say, I'm not a "bible scholar" or a "scripturalist" or any of these- I couldn't care less about flattering titles; and I am only here by the grace of God Who gives understanding to us at His will, and not ours. We will find in the end, this has always been about the Lord, and not really about us. Everything we have, has been given to us by God, and there is nothing our own hand has ever accomplished. Truly there will be no glorying in the presence of the Lord, because nothing we do is of our own selves, but of the Spirit that works in us

This is what we all learn eventually, that same thing that king of confusion was taught:

Dan 4:34 And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:
35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.