Brother! You got THAT right! Just so happens that "Israel" is scattered throughout the whole world and all others that will be caught up in her slaughter - "The Time of Jacob's Trouble", will simply be collateral damage.

"And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, WHO keep the COMMANDMENTS of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

The so-called "Gentile Church" doesn't seem to have anything to worry about it, because they believe Paul over road Christ admonition for them to be 'commissioned to obedience".

"He who says, I know Him, and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:4

Blessed Be His Name

Bruce and Linda,

Please forgive my bluntness here, but this has to be said.

The New Covenant, THE EVERLASTING COVENANT established by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB joined together the house of Judah (NATURAL ISRAEL) and the House of Israel (SPIRITUAL ISRAEL) at the Cross!!! This is not some future thing!! ALL believers in Christ are called Israel!! The Church is SPIRITUAL ISRAEL!!

There is no longer any division in the Body of Christ…HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION ACCOMPLISHED THIS UNION!!

We overcome by THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB… WHO keep the COMMANDMENTS of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. The only way one can keep the Commandments of God is by having the Testimony of Jesus, who was the only one who kept the whole of the Law!! He lives in Us, we cannot do it without His Blood which was shed at the Cross for all of Israel…His people whether Jew or Gentile!!

There is no longer any division between His Body…there is no longer Gentile or Jew, there are only His People called Israel!! Flesh and blood cannot enter Heaven…so it matters not what blood type you have, the BLOOD OF THE LAMB made the atonement for all believers! IT WAS FINISHED AT THE CROSS!!

The whole world is in Tribulation…not just natural Israel!! God already dealt with Old Covenant Israel, and now the only Way FOR ALL PEOPLE is JESUS, no matter if you are a Jew or not!!

What is so difficult to understand about this? Why do we keep dividing up His Body and saying there are different ways for certain people, and that God is going to punish the natural Jews again?!! He is going to throw ALL PEOPLE who do not know Christ into tribulation until they get a clue!!

And why do we see Israel as some illegal nation created by Satan filled with unbelievers as God’s special people and deny the REAL ISRAEL WHICH IS ALL BELEIVERS IN CHRIST? This truly is ANOTHER GOSPEL….come out of this false Gospel…think about what you believe…it is NOT the Word of God to make of none effect what Christ established and instituted at the Cross!

JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!

Patti C.

Hello Patti, I will certainly answer your post but it will be on a post of my own and a bit later.

Right now, I want to apologize to all who read my first response to Bruce's post. Though true, it was not encouraging or edifying to the body. I am so sick of the lies we've been cloaked with and frankly, believe it is past time for the church to WAKE UP!

Again, I am sorry, but admonish all of us to seek Christ regarding anything we are dogmatic about in our understanding of Christ, why He came, His covenants, and what role the TRUE Israelites have to play in this whole corrupted scheme of things.

Blessings to All,

Blessed Be His Name

Dear Linda,

I did not and do not see what you posted as anything that was offensive in any way to anyone. I am the one that may be guilty of that as I am as you say:
"... so sick of the lies we've been cloaked with and frankly, believe it is past time for the church to WAKE UP!"

I am sorry I got so carried away in my response...although it is true, it may have been too emphatic...and as you so graciously say, we need to seek Christ on anything we are dogmatic about. For it is all about Him and not our understanding of Him.

YSIC

Patti C.

It's because of the carnal mind, the carnal mind simply cannot understand the spiritual things as they are "foolishness" to it. All the carnal mind can do is understand the things it can see and hear and touch and taste and smell- just like a beast of the earth. That's what all these beasts are in the scripture, pictures of men in the carnal mind, of the flesh, of the world- such is why the king of Babylon was made to be as a beast with no understand until 7 times were completed, and then and only then did his understanding return. So no matter how clear it is to you (and it is clearly understood spiritually) you're never going to get the carnal mind to understand it. All we can do is water the seed and then God gives the increase in its season.

Now bring in a carnal Israel onto the world-stage and the carnal minded must fixate on it, this is just how it works- the carnal mind is attracted to the carnal things because that is what it is seeing. What this is doing is manifesting the carnal mind in the kingdom and drawing it out; it is dividing the wheat from the chaff, as it were. This is the entire purpose of the antichrist- he is sent by the Lord to gather to him those who offend out of the kingdom, and thereby make manifest the sons of God

John,

Thank you for that excellent comment on the big picture. I needed that! It answered my question in the best way possible. God is doing everything for mankind's ultimate good. How would we wakeup to the Truth if we did not have the deceptions to compare it with? It actually reinforces how much God loves us!

It is a journey for each person and all people.

Bless you for your insight regarding this matter.

YSIC

Patti C.