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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT DISPENSATIONAL "TRUTH"

Truth Declared

Let me ask one question. Is that Acts 2? Every statement attributed to Peter is quoted from Dispensational literature. If Peter were a Dispensationalist he could not say something different from the Dispensational TRUTH for truth does not change. And yet, when we compare these statements with what actually transpired on the Day of Pentecost, we not only find that they do not correspond, but in almost every detail, they are the very opposite to what Peter said.

Let us examine the evidence. Peter said nothing about a parenthesis, a hidden interval or of the prophets knowing nothing of the church age. Instead Peter said, "THIS IS THAT which was spoken of by the prophet Joel." Acts 2:16.

When Peter confirmed Pentecost with an appeal to the prophets, he was following Christ's example in Luke 24:44-47, "…That all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of Moses,AND IN THE PROPHETS and in the Psalms, concerning Me. Then opened He their understanding that they might understand the Scriptures. " …that repentance and remission of sins be preached in His name…" exactly what Peter did.

Peter did not say the Kingdom of God depended on a Jewish plebiscite, which rejected Him, but rather on God's Sovereign Will which declared Him to be both Lord and Christ by acclamation. Acts 2:36. Peter did not see Christ's Kingdom postponed to the unknown future, but rather he proclaimed that he was an "eyewitness to HIS MAJESTY." 2 Pet. 1:16.

Blackstone, in Jesus Is Coming says, "The Millennium as the teaching of the Old Testament…was the view most frequently expressed in the TALMUD." Then he says, "We can consistently, with the Jews, base our conclusions…on the great week of the Millennium." pp 38, 39. Paul warned both Titus and Timothy to
beware of fables, especially "Not giving heed to JEWISH fables." Titus 1:14. Peter said, "For we have not followed cunningly devised fables…" 2 Pet. 1:16. The Pulpit Commentaries link the fables referred to with the Talmud, which it says is full of them. Yet this Talmud which Christ said, "Made the Word of God of none effect," is the greatest original authority for Dispensationalism.

Peter did not tacitly blaspheme the Holy Ghost by suggesting He made an error and telling his audience that "God's clock stopped." ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God…" 2 Tim. 3:16. The only clocks that can stop are the ones that belong to people who have clocks, like Dispensational clocks, for instance. God does not need a clock, or a Jewish "sun dial," for He dwells in eternity and "Known unto God are ALL His works from the beginning of the world." Acts 15:18.

Peter did not come before his audience to announce a PATHETIC apology, suggesting that the prophets did not foresee the age of grace. Instead he came with a PROPHETIC assurance of fulfillment of God's promises. Peter did not see the church as a church (crutch) for God to hobble through an embarrassing parenthetic period unforeseen by the prophets, (and therefore, unforeseen by God Himself since He inspired prophecy) but he hailed the church as a glorious fulfillment of Christ's design and purpose as He said, "I will build MY church."

Peter did not say that God would rouse David from his tomb to assist Him in managing His Kingdom, but he said, "David is in his sepulcher, but that God would raise (resurrect) up Christ to sit on David's spiritual throne," which he called HIS throne. Acts 2:29-32.

Nor did Peter say that Christ was coming back to Jerusalem to set up His Kingdom, but that He is NOW "By the right hand of God EXALTED" (past tense) and that God HATH made (past tense) Him both Lord and Christ." That is both King and Messiah. Peter didn't portray future earthly bumper crops and social security comparable to the promises one hears in election campaigns, nor did He predict the weather report for the Millennium like an Almanac as Dispensationalists do, but Peter proclaimed God's Kingdom through repentance and forgiveness. Peter did not preach future events, but he proclaimed present principles. Peter's message was not speculations about the future but regulations for the present
Kingdom.

Peter did not see the Old Testament prophecies postponed to a future age. If Peter had have preached a Dispensational sermon at Pentecost, Judaism would have been the TOMB of Christianity instead of the WOMB, the age of Grace. Peter heralded the truth that the Old Testament promises were being realized in the gospel and were bursting into reality with awe-inspiring dynamic power, supported with "many infallible proofs." Thus Christ is introduced as the new Moses, raised (resurrected) up in accordance with Deut. 18:15, as the Divine lawgiver of the Kingdom of God. Acts 3:22.

He saw Christ leading the NEW EXODUS, not from Egypt to Canaan, but from the thralldom of sin and Satan's kingdom into the glorious liberty of the Kingdom of God. Col. 1:13. He saw Christ
restoring our inheritance, which was lost through the fall. This new exodus commenced on the Day of Pentecost when the first contingent of the Remnant followed Christ through repentance and surrendered to His rule. These are the ones God calls His people. This Israel never ceased from being a nation. 1 Pet. 2:9.

Christ is the new Joshua leading His followers to rest and peace in the Canaan of the New Testament after the conquest of vice and evil. Christ is the New Testament Samson. Samson was imprisoned in Gaza and he escaped by taking the gates off their hinges and hiding them where they were never found again. In like manner Christ unhinged the tomb, destroyed its terror, and left it as a gateway to glory rather than as a prison of despair. Christ is the New Testament Melchizedek, our eternal High Priest and mediator between man and God. He is the New Testament sacrifice, once and for all.

We not only do not need such a MEMORIAL in the millennium -- how can we forget HIS sacrifice. A restoration of animal sacrifices would be an insult to Him when that is the very thing He came to abolish with His sacrifice.

Much can be said, but we must add this statement. Peter did not proclaim a millennium in which an insurrection would break out and involve Christ in a carnal warfare. Perish the thought! Christ is Deity.

The millennium of the Dispensationalists ends in the most colossal fiasco of the ages. The declension of subjects from Christ to Satan is not equaled in the annals of time. The barbarous means Christ uses to quell the insurrection are without parallel in history. A doctrine that "paints itself into a corner" where the Christ they serve is portrayed as a vindictive tyrannous anti-Christ bathed in human blood He has spilled before He can enjoy eternity defies every Christian concept of the Christ of the gospels and the Christ of Calvary.

The teaching is not so revolutionary as it is revolting! A doctrine so
bereft of the right conclusion must be construed to have the wrong premise to start with. A doctrine that errs so far from the PATTERN of truth cannot be truth. You can call it Dispensational trash or trumpery or Dispensational interpretation, but it is not truth. Truth does not contradict itself. A Kenneth Wuest defines the word; Truth is "That which has not only the name and semblance, but the real nature corresponding to the name. Truth is unconcealed and unhidden. You do not find it in "hidden intervals," injecting it into clauses separated by commas, not in subtle mysteries, which can only be discerned by experts, so-called.

Truth Verified

Peter's message on the Day of Pentecost was simple, clear, understood by all, straight forward, lucid and above all it left no doubt as to its authority. Peter's message would not be recognizable in Dispensational terms. Therefore, we must label the Dispensational claim that Peter was a Pre-millennialist as false. That the early church was Pre-millennial in doctrine is also false. There is no such evidence. That Pre-millennialism is in harmony with Jewish theology and thought as well as the Talmudic interpretation of the Old Testament, we readily agree. But this is the interpretation Jesus said "Made the Word of God of none effect." Mark 7:13.

It is further observed that "Pre-millennialism is founded principally on the interpretation of the Old Testament." Walvoord, The Millennial Kingdom, p. 114. We heartily agree with this statement. But we must add that the Old Testament is no longer in force. It was annulled, abrogated, superseded and it was done away. Hebrews chapter 8 leaves no doubt that the Old Covenant was cancelled and revoked. Its heirs were under redemption when the New Covenant came into effect. Any doctrine that is founded on a document such as this Old Covenant has no claim on God's truth for God's truth emphatically says that THAT Covenant does not exist any longer.

A-millennialists are the literalists in fact, for they do not postpone the Kingdom. They accept the promises of God and the Kingdom of God as delivered by God to His saints. Amillennialists do not change God's Word to suit their doctrine.

You may ask if this suggests that Dispensationalists do change God's Word. I refer you to the statement of Rex Humbard where he quoted Jesus as saying earthquakes are a sign of the end of the Gentile age. Try to find it! Jesus did not say that! In Walvoord's book, The Millennial Kingdom it says on page 38, "The positive testimony of Revelation 20 with its six references to a reign of Christ ON EARTH for 1,000 years, while hotly disputed and denied significance by a-millennialists, is nevertheless their stubborn foe." I reply that there is not one single solitary reference to a reign of Christ ON EARTH in Revelation, nor even the entire New Testament. Being literal does not license any person to ADD to God's Word in order to prove his position. Revelation 20 says that those who reign with Christ are the ones who participate in the FIRST RESURRECTION and that on such the Second Death hath no power.

We all know that the Second Death is permanent separation from God and it has nothing to do with the physical demise of a person. The Second Death is the penalty for sin. Now the First Resurrection is in apposition to the Second Death, and since the second death is spiritual death, the first resurrection has to be a spiritual resurrection. As Paul said, "You hath He quickened (made alive) who were dead in trespasses and sins…and hath raised (resurrected) us up and made us sit together in heavenly places. Eph. 2:1, 6. a-millennialists accept this Scriptural resurrection in Rev. 20, and they also accept the spiritual reign with Christ which ensure.

In our search for TRUTH we should accept the obvious meaning and refuse the devious. Truth has a fountainhead and we should go to the Source for it. Truth is not a mystery, nor a maze. Bible TRUTH does not have to zigzag its way through seven judgments, four gospels, multiple resurrections infinitesimal hair splitting definitions about Jews and Gentiles, endless detours to get around road-blocks needing experts to "rightly DIVIDE the truth." Truth is simple. God meant for ordinary people to understand it in its most apparent meaning.

We reject Dispensationalism because it does not correspond to
any of the meanings of truth either in the Word of God or in the
Dictionary. We accept A-millennialism because it does correspond to both.

Truth is integrated. What was true for Moses was true for
Peter and the TRUTH Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost
will be true until the end of time. The gospel is not a postulation
but a proclamation. It is not a postponement theory but Divine
authority. It is not a future conjecture but a present reality. The
Bible says, "This is the LAST time. This would not be true if there
were a future millennial age. A-millennialists simply accept
TRUTH. Jesus said, "I am the way and THE truth and the life."
This we believe! This we proclaim!

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A little bit of poison will still kill…a little bit of dispensationalism is just as deadly. We say we don’t believe one part of it, but swallow another part of it as truth! I am just as guilty as anyone; I believed the great majority of this doctrine until I started to find out for myself.

I have to say that what bothers me the most is that much of these doctrines that deal with “future fulfillment” actually denies what Christ FINISHED AT THE CROSS. I am surprised how many do not believe that Jesus established the Kingdom of God at His first coming! I also feel that this is the biggest lie that Satan has sold mankind and is the root of all other false doctrines. Just think of the Power that has been lost by the church because of these lies, no wonder end-time churches are all form and no power!

I am compelled to equate this with what Pastor Mike is exposing about how witchcraft entering the churches. His example of the “Circle Maker”, a book that teaches witchcraft, becoming a bestselling “Christian” book, shows how most have given up on prayer and turned to works, as they do not believe they have the power of the Holy Spirit, and therefore look to other “spirits”. It is all turning back from Christ and worshiping other gods just like Israel did in the desert.

JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!

Patti C.

Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT DISPENSATIONAL "TRUTH"

If one is born again one is already in the Kingdom of God, and are ruling and reigning with Christ on this earth right now! To put this off to some future time is to deny what Christ did at the Cross.

If one does that...they are not in the Doctrine of Christ, and they are the one leading people astray. His Kingdom is not of this world and it never will be!

It will be a New Earth and a New Heaven and there will be no delay of 1000 years after His Second Coming!

If one believes that there is they are believing a dispensationalist's lie, and not the word of God.

If we see that the pre-trib rapture is a lie we need to look into what else, these very same men brought into the Church...future millennium being another lie that has taken the power from the churches...so they become all form and no truth in power.

Don't believe me either...FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF!!

JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!

Patti C.

Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT DISPENSATIONAL "TRUTH"

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