Hi Steven!

Thanks for posting this article! I really enjoyed it and it is refreshing to see some discussion on Daniel's 70th week being fulfilled, as that is what the Bible shows and it needs to be looked at. We as Christians have been deceived in so many ways as to doctrine and dogma, by some very evil false prophets down through the centuries. Thank goodness we are finding out for ourselves and taking some hard meaningful looks at what we have been sold!!

You providing this forum gives us a chance to do just that, as it is real discussions about all manner of subjects that hopefully together we can begin to see the whole truth. I am grateful to experience this site and to have an opportunity to keep growing.

Thanks again Steven...

Blessings to all,

Patti C.

"He shall confirm the Covenant with many." (v. 27.) Why not the whole nation? The nation as a whole rejected him and his Covenant. Yet he was able to make it prevail for seven years -- with many. What Jesus began to do and to teach took him as far as Calvary and the Resurrection. After that he poured out the Holy Spirit on the believers at Pentecost.

Then he ministered from his throne through his followers for three and a half years until Stephen was stoned, the church scattered, and the gospel was taken to the Gentiles. It was the fulfillment of Da 9:27. Christ confirmed the Covenant and caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease. (Heb. 10:1-14, ESP. v. 9 ) "He taketh away the first that he may establish the second." The New Covenant could not be confirmed except by the taking away of the Old Mosaic Covenant. It had to be done by the crucifixion of the Messiah. He took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross in the midst of that week and that did away with the sacrifice and oblation. When the veil was rent in twain in the temple, the fulfillment was absolutely precise. It had to be done in that week after the introduction of the Messiah at the Jordan when God identified him for exactly who he was. He was to make the Covenant prevail for seven years and that he did precisely.

Some teachers put the fulfillment at the end of this age and then they go to Thessalonians and find the Antichrist and bring him back to Daniel 9. Isn't that marvelous? How can you break the 70th week off and put it at the end of this age when God fulfilled it then?
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Then he ministered from his throne through his followers for three and a half years until Stephen was stoned, the church scattered, and the gospel was taken to the Gentiles.

There is absolutely no confirmation to this fact that the 70th week ended with the death of Stephen. That is simply conjecture. Where is the scripture to back this supposition up? In fact, the church, which was made up of Jews and Gentiles spread far and wide. The dispersion of the Church was needed to cause it to spread world-wide. And then to say that Yesuah HaMashiach was able to make the New Covenant to prevail for Seven Years. What kind of 'garbage' is that? The King of Kings couldn't keep it together longer than that? What was the purpose of the Out-pouring of His Holy Spirit? It was to continue His Holy Covenant through the teaching of the Gospel until the Time of the Gentiles was finished. Stephen was the first martyr of the many to follow within the Body of Believers until His Return.

While this is over-all a good teaching and I'm grateful to be able to study it but to to swallow the above is to say that Our Saviour was limited in His Power rather than, this is exactly what He has planned for the world. We are on the threshold of seeing End Time Prophecy fulfilled. After the Church meets the Lord in the air, there will be a literal Hell on Earth as He pours out His Wrath.

And the question of why, "He shall confirm the Covenant with many." (v. 27.) Why not the whole nation? ". Do you suppose it has something to do with, "Many are called but few are Chosen".? Matthew 22:14

gerlinda

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