Dear Linda,

There seems to be distinction between the Sabbath and what followed later in Leviticus when the 613 laws were given unto the Children of Israel, which none were able to keep. That difference, as I read your article and the Bible is that the Sabbath is a "COVENANT" between Abraham and the Great I AM, our Heavenly Father. Since a Covenant is a binding agreement, which is between two parties, it certainly is not broken by Almighty God nor was it broken by Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or those that continued to hold it dear to their hearts. A covenant is usually signed by both parties; perhaps a seal put upon it as binding. That seal, in this case, was for Abraham and his descendants to keep the Sabbath for an everlasting sign. I believe in the Sabbath but would like to point out something that you said:

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It takes time for Sabbath prep. Making dinner for the next day, cleaning the house so there is no “work” to do, so that the entire day is dedicated to worshiping, praying, studying and magnifying Him…for…one…day. This aside from the hustle and bustle of our daily lives; where we also incorporate thoughts of Him with willingness to share the Gospel. He knows we need rest. He knows we need an escape from the worries and stresses of everything happening throughout the OTHER six days in our week. He knew, and invited us to sit down and sup with Him…just one day.

”Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest”.

For us, this is too difficult. Because we have acclimated ourselves to the world. We have lost our spiritual prowess to stand against what man dictates, so we acclimate and accommodate and hurt no one’s feelings; no one but the one who has power over life and death, good and evil. Instead of grabbing hold to what our God, our King desires from us, we search and search for reasons to gratify and justify our fleshly conscience. Oh, do I have to do that? Oh no! I thought He set us freeeeee!


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I believe it is quite clear that Jesus Christ rebuked the religious leaders of the day who were so entrenched in the nitty gritty of the law that they would not allow anyone to be healed on the Sabbath, to help an animal to become free of it's peril should it fall on that day and on and on it went, right? Why would the Son of God, our Redeemer go against God's Laws? That is the point here, isn't it? They (the Pharisees) were following all of the Levitical Laws, which were impossible to keep, plus the many additional man-made laws and had lost the whole concept of the Sabbath, which was what???? It was that special relationship between man and God which marked them different than those that followed the pagan ways.

So, is the question here about the Sabbath a matter of having to do all the preparations the day before because there was no cooking allowed on the Sabbath or does that come under the guide-lines in the Levitical Laws?

When Our Lord said for us to Love the Lord Thy God with all our heart and to love our neighbor as ourselves, he had just condensed the whole of the Ten Commandments. As it is noted, the first four deal with God's relationship with man and the remaining six deal with man's relationship with his fellow man.

We are free indeed in the fact that our Redemption was purchased by The Lamb of God.

The issue of Sun Day worship or keeping The Sabbath (Remember to keep holy the Sabbath) is a very touchy issue, much like Christmas and other pagan holidays; one which cannot be pounded into a person. Each of us needs God's Holy Spirit to guide us. I used to attend Mass for 25 years, then stopped all together. Then I was born-again, attended Sunday Worship faithfully until that day that I saw my denomination had left the true gospel and taken up the ways of Rick Warren. Then I stopped attending services of any kind. During all this time, I've read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation (not in continuous order) because I love the history and prophecies that are taught there which become more clear each time I read BUT I learned only by the conviction of the Holy Spirit. It made me realize what we were being saved from and the depth of Satan's desire to usurp Jesus Christ from His rightful place and steal His possession from Him. I'd love to have a good solid place to join with like minded people but they are extremely rare so I draw closer to the Word and special places of information such as Rapture Bible Prophecy Forum for guidance and fellowship.

Bottom line Linda is that I am free in Jesus Christ like you and others. I pray to be able to Love the Lord my God with all my heart and to love my neighbor as myself. We can't be faithful to manmade church doctrines and be faithful to Jesus Christ. The Sabbath is not a Law but an agreement, which I believe the Church of Rome, willfully broke thus putting the people, once again, under the bondage of it's doctrines much the same as the Jews who did not come to faith in their Messiah, continue to do today. God's Holy Spirit continues to do the convicting work until Jesus Christ returns, Praise the Lord.

gerlinda

Hi Gerlinda, I appreciate your response Sis.

I certainly understand what is being said here, and I agree with you. This boils down "to each his own" when it comes to what prep "if any" one wants or chooses to do. This is not a blanket statement on what ALL of us should be doing, but a glance at the mindset, we as the body - "IF, that would be what it takes to honor the Sabbath" are not willing to do.

This was said to make plain the inconveniences that get in the way of our lives, because we HAVE become so acclimated to this world. This is why we even have the disagreement on which day IS worship day or not. Because we simply went away from what He commanded, based on what man dictated. We agree with the other nine, with no disagreement at all, and debate about the one...Sabbath. Satan plays us like a violin, one against another on this issue alone. Yes, the first four Commandments has to do with our relationship with Him and I am glad He made clear to me how this was supposed to be carried out...it is written in the commandment. I also stated that His word is law and the law is His word. Meaning what He says, goes whether we agree or not. He speaks and it IS, and He doesn't change.

My bottom line in this message was that we ARE supposed to be different from the world around us, and one way the Most High established this difference was the act of honoring His Sabbath. We weren't to be set apart from Israel in our ways, as described in Isa 56, thus we have the "New Testament" Christians. This is why we've lost our influence on the world. We have become just like them.

He has taken me back to understanding things that I never really gave a lot of thought about. I know that I am drawing closer to Him and He is revealing more and more. What He brings to light requires change from all of us and this is where most of us have a problem.

Not that one has to be religious about their actions, let your free willed heart determine the extent of your actions. This is a change that has to be between you and Him, and cannot be based upon someone else's thoughts or actions, He has to be the reason for your change. As I have stated, it is not that I am willingly placing a yoke of bondage on my own neck, I understand the freedom I have in Him. We are doing that which we know pleases Him, as He brings to light His truth about these issues.

Thanks Gerlinda, I hope this clears things up.


Blessed Be His name

Brothers and Sisters,

In light of the video message "666 and the Mark" posted by Steven, I thought it very appropriate to bump this post up again.

Blessings of understanding to the listener and reader.

http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3330765498&frmid=8549&msgid=928062&cmd=show


Blessed Be His Name

Dear Linda,

I know this subject is important to you, and I appreciate and respect that. It is so interesting to me that each time you or someone else brings that up the Lord compels me to respond...I mean gives me a great unction to do so, it is as if I have no other choice and no matter what I am studying or working on at the time, I have to stop and address this first.

So, please forgive me for being so adamant about it...I am sure you would do the same if you were so compelled by the Lord. I shared this before, about the boldness the Lord has given me on this issue. I once addressed this issue with a whole group of Seventh Day Adventists at one of their own gatherings and on a Saturday. I spent 170 hours studying before doing so, and it was not my boldness that helped me have the courage to do such a thing..I did not want to do it. But, the Lord was with me and I did do it and it was actually well- received by about half of the people at the gathering. I tell you this to show you that this is not about me and my opinion, this is always inspired by the Lord.

The mark of Christ is the Holy Spirit and being born again..it cannot be the Sabbath rest of the Old Testament and the Law. Jesus is our Sabbath rest...just as He is Israel, the Temple, and anything physical that we used to rely on. It is all inside of us now...no outward law, or work.

I just put on a couple more posts about this. I just wanted to let you know it is nothing personal and that I am spiritually compelled to do so.

You are a treasured sister in Christ to me!

Patti C.

Hello. My Sister,

It is OK, we are both following Christ and obviously doing what we believe The Lord is compelling us to do. We just have to, this time, agree to disagree OK! There is certainly no love lost in this. For ALL things will come to fruition in His time. I am saying, that it is He that has taken me "back to the basics" of understanding "Paul's gospel" and is clearing the way for me and my family to come in line with what is true and what isn't. For one, I do know that He did not set Paul above Himself but sent Paul to bring Gentiles INTO the commonwealth of Israel...the ways and practices of "Physical Israel".

"For what if some did not believe? Will their unbelief make the faithfulness of God without effect? Certainly not! indeed, let God be true and every man a liar.'" Rom 3:3-4

As truth is being revealed to us, let us follow the light of it with all righteousness and peace. The Roman Catholic Church has it's tentacles in every area of our lives, and the lives we call "the Christian experience". The video posted by Steven was an excellent display of how far it goes, and for us to understand it all, we will have to have immortal bodies in order for us to comprehend and withstand the magnitude of its destructive evil.

I KNOW going back to the basics of this mindset will be difficult for MANY of us to understand, because we have been so indoctrinated against it, against the Old Testament, against Physical Israel, against following the laws, statutes and commandments of God, why? because we say we love Him. This alone gives pause, as to what it means to be "Born Again".

God bless you Patti, in your efforts to get understanding. I appreciate you being open and unafraid to what He wants to reveal to you, and may we all be careful in our zeal for knowledge, as to where that knowledge is coming from. Satan is looking to steal, kill and destroy. The gate is narrow Brothers and Sisters, and few there be that find it. Christianity has fallen in so many ways and has become an apostate church. Let us hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches.

I Love You Patti,

Blessed Be His Name