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"LIARS"...........ALL!

Who in their right mind would DARE say that they WORSHIP Jesus Christ by throwing him a party on the wrong day of his BIRTH! Then add an IDOL to the center of attention on THAT day! THEN, Lie to their children about some white haired FAT guy that flies through the air in a SLEIGH, pulled by FLYING reindeer, to delivery FREE GIFTS to all the children of the earth! THEN they all bow down to the idol to get the free stuff that is under this idol~! ON TOP of everything, this fat guys name is an anagram of SATAN!! Did you hear me? How dumb can someone get to NOT SEE THIS? DO you believe your own BIBLE? It tells you in Revelation that SATAN has deceived the ENTIRE WORLD! THATS right! THE ENTIRE EARTH HAS BEEN DECEIVED. THAT means YOU! and me! EVERYONE! THe only ones who are not deceived are the ones that have COME OUT OF HER! THATS right! The ones that have forsaken all family members, brother, sister, mother, daughter or son, those that refuse to listen to the TRUTH! Come out of her my people! Mystery Babylon of the Bible! God is furious with all because of the FALSE WORSHIP of him. The earth is beginning to puke up all of the disease of mankind on the face of her surface, like a woman in labor, we are on a one way ride on a planet that is sick from the LIAR! She cries out to God almighty because of the BLOOD that the devil continues to spill onto her surface. And man just keeps on being IGNORANT to the TRUTH!

WHY do you worship on SUN DAY? THATS right SUNDAY is the first day of the week and GOD commanded us to keep the SEVENTH DAY HOLY! THAT is SATURDAY! THE SABBATH day is SATURDAY! Yes it matters! TO GOD or he would not have SAID IT!!!

WHO is the LIAR? YOU or the BIBLE? READ it for yourself, it is in there!

HOW can you worship a God that you don't even know OR CARE which day he set aside for worship of himself? And took the time to put it in his WORD the BIBLE! WHAT THE #^&*%

ARE you nuts? This is the price of being a TRUE follower of Christ! To surrender ALL for him. THIS is true FAITH! To come out of BABYLON THE GREAT! The system of False worship that was set up by Nimrod and the devil to cause all mankind to fall away from the TRUTH! It can only be said in this end of times that the Entire World has been deceived because SUNDAY and IDOL worship has spread to the entire earth!

I'm telling you the TRUTH! I have read the Bible for myself with the Holy Spirit teaching and guiding me for decades. And I KNOW that ALL ARE LIARS that refuse to COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE!

COME........OUT........of........HER! GOD has spoken it and I now witness it!

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Michael
Who in their right mind would DARE say that they WORSHIP Jesus Christ by throwing him a party on the wrong day of his BIRTH!


Brother no man is worshipping or claiming to worship Jesus Christ by throwing Him a party on December 25, this is only "happening" in your mind. What they are doing is celebrating the birth of their Saviour by giving gifts and goodwill toward others. Is it on the wrong day? Surely. Is it steeped in pagan trappings? Certainly. Does the Lord care about these carnal things? Not at all. The Lord is looking at the heart- He sees through spiritual eyes, not eyes of flesh- and if you truly follow Him, then so will you. Truly out of the carnal mind we must be delivered, and come to the spiritual Zion.

Then add an IDOL to the center of attention on THAT day!


There's no idol at the center, an idol is worshipped as a god- anyone falling prostrate before their Christmas tree and cry "O Tree! O God! Go before me now and cast down my enemies O Tree! Hear me O Tree and I will tithe a tenth to thee!" Of course not. And the passage you are quoting continually is not about a Christmas tree it is talking about an idol:

Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.

This is describing the heathen going out and cutting down a tree, taking the wood, forming an image of their god, covering it with gold and silver, and then carrying it around and worshipping it and calling on it to help them in their doings. But these idols can't even speak or walk of themselves, the worshippers have to fasten nails to make sure they stand up, and carry them around because the image itself can't even move itself; they can't even speak- it's just a piece of wood and isn't a god, so the Lord says "Do not fear them" and he is not talking about a Christmas tree in any way, shape or form. No one fears a Christmas tree is going to smite them.

As well as, to any in the new covenant, this is not even what idolatry really is, as the carnal is merely a shadow of the spiritual; and TRUE idolatry is coveting: Col 3:5 so if there's any "idolatry" in Christmas at all, it is in any greed and coveting, and not in some carnal tree sitting in a corner. But then, I'm confident any greed and coveting of folks isn't confined to a particular carnal day.

ON TOP of everything, this fat guys name is an anagram of SATAN!!


Yes and "dog" is an anagram of "God"; what are you saying anagrams mean? Surely you're not suggesting anagrams are proof of sameness?

It tells you in Revelation that SATAN has deceived the ENTIRE WORLD! THATS right! THE ENTIRE EARTH HAS BEEN DECEIVED. THAT means YOU! and me! EVERYONE! THe only ones who are not deceived are the ones that have COME OUT OF HER! THATS right! The ones that have forsaken all family members, brother, sister, mother, daughter or son, those that refuse to listen to the TRUTH! Come out of her my people! Mystery Babylon of the Bible! God is furious with all because of the FALSE WORSHIP of him. The earth is beginning to puke up all of the disease of mankind on the face of her surface, like a woman in labor, we are on a one way ride on a planet that is sick from the LIAR! She cries out to God almighty because of the BLOOD that the devil continues to spill onto her surface. And man just keeps on being IGNORANT to the TRUTH!


All this is very true.

WHY do you worship on SUN DAY?


Personally I am in a state of constant worship- but generally speaking, the Christians worship on Sunday because of the tradition of the apostles to gather on the first day of the week. But again this is all carnal and this is where the mind of the individual will regard it or not Rom 14

THATS right SUNDAY is the first day of the week and GOD commanded us to keep the SEVENTH DAY HOLY! THAT is SATURDAY! THE SABBATH day is SATURDAY!


You're talking as if you're thinking that others regard Sunday as the Sabbath? I'm not sure of anyone who thinks Sunday is the last day of the week. The truth is that you're the one who is confused here- and probably confusing others as well: this is what we're supposed to come out of: confusion. For the record, Christians teach that the sabbath is Saturday; always have and always will. I don't know where Michael is getting his understanding here but it's in error. The Christian generally does not preach carnal Sabbath keeping because he views it as a command of the carnal type fulfilled spiritually in Christ.

In other words, regarding the Sabbath, most Christians generally understand that the law is made spiritual, and so the command to rest in the Rest is found spiritually in Jesus Christ and in His Word of faith: only the carnal minded will turn back after beginning in the Spirit, and attempt to impose carnal commands on them set at liberty by the Word of Faith: but again, they simply entangle themselves and others with the yoke of bondage; do not follow them down into Egypt there is no help but in Israel- that is to say, Jesus Christ.

To come out of BABYLON THE GREAT!


Babylon the Great is the carnal mind, with its carnal understanding of the spiritual Words of the spiritual God. You talk about carnal days and carnal rituals and of the flesh of Jacob, and mix carnal with spiritual- which things can not mix but are divided between the other: you must come out of this carnal understanding of spiritual things, for our God is spirit and we must worship in spirit- not carnally, not according to carnal command and carnal days and carnal ways:

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John, your quote:

Does the Lord care about these carnal things? Not at all. The Lord is looking at the heart- He sees through spiritual eyes, not eyes of flesh- and if you truly follow Him, then so will you. Truly out of the carnal mind we must be delivered, and come to the spiritual Zion.

Then why does he tell Jeremiah to warn His people NOT to do as the Heathen do?
They refused to listen and those that claim to follow Jesus Christ do not listen either. It is tradition and by gum, they will do as their fore-fathers did, be it Carnal or Spiritual.

I'm sorry John, but you are playing mind games: Your quote:

Babylon the Great is the carnal mind, with its carnal understanding of the spiritual Words of the spiritual God. You talk about carnal days and carnal rituals and of the flesh of Jacob, and mix carnal with spiritual- which things can not mix but are divided between the other: you must come out of this carnal understanding of spiritual things, for our God is spirit and we must worship in spirit- not carnally, not according to carnal command and carnal days and carnal ways:

Until your Spirit has graduated out of your "Carnal Body", you are still in a Carnal World that is now about to see the fulfillment of the Carnal Christ coming to his Carnal Babylon Kingdom and there are millions of Carnal people who will loose their Carnal heads because they are so "Spiritually Minded" they cannot see the Evil Spirits operating in Carnal Bodies.

If God said it then, He means it still for today while we still live in this Carnal World.

gerlinda

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BINGO! My point has been confirmed in these two witnesses! The first one refuses to COME OUT OR HER and the second one has already done so!

How hard it is to deny oneself for Christ! To give up this world and all its sickness. I leave it to you Father to forgive them if you want too! But I am tired of trying to reason with them!!!! And praying for them.

Take away their rain in due season! Stop the clouds from giving their life support to the evil ones of the earth. Protect the righteous and punish the foolish. Bring them to their knees.

Father it is your right to do these things because they refuse to change their ways. Forgive me Lord, for I have become angry in their resentment of the TRUTH!

LIARS!!!!!!!!!!! ALL!!

COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE!


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John,

The body of Christ, at such a time as this, could sure use the great zeal you display... FOR THE TRUTH OF CHRIST, opposed to the deep understanding you obviously have for carnality.

I pray He opens your eyes and moves in your heart quickly, for our time is very, very short.

TO ALL: CAST OUT! THE UNCLEAN THING....

Blessed Be His Name

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Gerlinda
John, your quote:

Does the Lord care about these carnal things? Not at all. The Lord is looking at the heart- He sees through spiritual eyes, not eyes of flesh- and if you truly follow Him, then so will you. Truly out of the carnal mind we must be delivered, and come to the spiritual Zion.

Then why does he tell Jeremiah to warn His people NOT to do as the Heathen do?


Because what the heathen were doing in their worship wasn't "in spirit and in truth" but their understanding was darkened by the carnal mind; this carnal understanding of god can't perceive the invisible, the spiritual- but like a beast it can only perceive those things it can sense, and touch and taste, and see: it bows down to a piece of lifeless wood because the image it can see, and touch and perceive with the carnal understanding

but the Lord says, come out of this understanding and have nothing to do with it. The carnal has no place in the temple of God, the carnal has no place in the kingdom of God, flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of God as we know. But this all has to do with understanding- understand the Word of God carnally, or spiritually. For instance Jesus told Peter to feed His sheep- how do we understand this? Jesus bidding Peter to give carnal food to carnal sheep? Or spiritual food to spiritual sheep? Feed my lambs- does Jesus mean, with carnal food- or spiritual food? We know it is spiritually understood.

Of course Christmas itself is nothing but another carnal ritual which in the end should be abandoned altogether; but it is not a worshipping or such, and has nothing to do with the Lord's warning in that Jeremiah passage which is about understanding of God, and that these carnal images are not gods, not anything. But Christmas has nothing to do with worship or understanding of God: if people were claiming the Christmas tree is god, and "O Tree I implore thee hear my words!" then it would be what the Lord is saying "Do not do" but no one is saying that ever, and there is nothing here but the trappings of the carnal world.

But the apostle himself teaches concerning this carnal understanding that to the one who knows that the idol is nothing, there is even no condemnation in that he eat of the food sacrificed to idols- for he himself knows the idol is nothing, his mind and conscience being pure of guilt through the knowledge of God:

1Cor 8:4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
7 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.

so since I am sure that every Christian knows that the tree in his corner isn't God and is in no way condemned of God in any way, his conscience bearing witness; however, naturally if you view the tree as wickedness and idolatry then yes you will be defiled in conscience from bringing a tree into your home.

If God said it then, He means it still for today while we still live in this Carnal World.


Yes of course He always means what He says this is not a question of what are the words God is using, it is a question of, what is God meaning when He says what He is saying- and the scripture teaches there are two bodies and two minds and two understandings: a carnal and a spiritual: and God is a spirit and His Word is spiritual, and He means what He says to be understood spiritually, and not carnally.

Jesus said that you must eat His flesh and drink His blood. He meant that and He still means it today. But the question is: how do we understand His words? With the carnal mind and its carnal understanding? Or with the mind of the Spirit?

It's true that carnal things will happen- and to those in the carnal mind this will be (and is) the strong delusion; because they will see carnal things and mistake them for the fulfillment of spiritual things, and thus they will stumble at the stumblingblock, as is written. This is why it's important not to walk by sight, by the carnal eyes and the seeing of carnal things; but by faith, the eyes of the Spirit and the seeing of the invisible things.

The spiritual understanding will be all that is left in the end; the everlasting fire of the gospel will burn up carnal understanding and all of the confusion and division it causes- because truthfully there is only unity in the Spirit.

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Michael
The first one refuses to COME OUT OR HER


Well wait, not so fast, I have come out of her- she being the pollution of sound doctrine with the leaven of the carnal mind. In spirit and in truth- not in flesh or works of the flesh: again flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom- the carnal mind cannot perceive the mysteries of God; for that they are spiritually discerned, as the apostle has written.

Christmas being a carnal ritual I abandoned it long ago but I'm not going to condemn someone for giving gifts to family and saying "Merry Christmas" with a tinseled tree in the corner- this is the leaven of the Pharisees, and this is spiritual Egypt of which the Lord said, Do not go down, nor trust in the shadow of Egypt: which shadow is the carnal commands given by the hand of Moses, of whom Jesus said, there is one that accuses you, it is Moses in whom you trust.

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Linda S


John,

The body of Christ, at such a time as this, could sure use the great zeal you display... FOR THE TRUTH OF CHRIST, opposed to the deep understanding you obviously have for carnality.


My understanding of carnality is deep as yours, as I once was you; and as I came out, so must you also if you are to enter the sanctuary and the kingdom: this is just how it works; the carnal understanding gets burned up by the Word of Truth, of which you speak there in bold letters.

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My point is made again. John , you claim that you have came out of Babylon. You call God a liar because it says in Revelation 12 that satan has deceived the "entire world". If you knew anything about the history of the so called "birthday of Jesus Christ" on the 25th day of December, you could SEE with your CARNAL eyes, that it is a deception perpetuated upon mankind to further draw him away from the true God of the Universe, that being Jehovah God Almighty, his son Jesus Christ, and, the Holy Ghost! You don't know why you celebrate this day. And you sure don't know why I do not! You can't! You haven't the knowledge of history on this subject! Or, you refuse to change your ways to conform to the truth, which would mean, giving up the traditions of men! We can converse on scripture if you like, but I refuse to cast my pearls. My knowledge is sound because I read it in the scriptures. And I have studied it for over 35 years while asking for the guidance of the Holy Spirit. You need to learn about Revelation and study Mystery Babylon before you say that you have "COME OUT OF HER"! The Bible doesn't lie! Only those of the 144,000 will not be fooled in the book of Revelation of Who Mystery Babylon is. They will be the ones that profess to the world, the TRUTH and are the warriors of God in the end times. They are not fooled nor can they be. And on one chooses to do this, they are picked by GOD and sealed by the Holy Ghost. They have no choice because they were born for this service and cause. Their lives have been shaped and their experiences have been formed to prepare them for this time in history. It is obvious to the world that they will not conform to it and the world hates them because of this message they bring to it. You should already know this because of your great understanding of the scriptures. ? No, I do not think you have come out of Babylon! You twist words to make them fit what you think they mean! I am not fooled by this, sorry! Next?

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Michael
My point is made again. John , you claim that you have came out of Babylon. You call God a liar because it says in Revelation 12 that satan has deceived the "entire world".


It's of course very good to know what the scripture says. It's even better to know what else the scripture says. For instance here you cite the Revelation which plainly tells us that Satan has indeed deceived the WHOLE WORLD. Indeed true, and indeed the Word of Truth.

You may have missed this part though:

Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

Joh 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Joh 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

1John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

1Jo 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

So you see, a disciple of Christ is not counted as "of the world" and is not- indeed cannot be deceived by the world or the things of the world, or the thoughts and understanding of the world. Having come out of the carnal understanding and into the spiritual understanding we have come out of the world and as such it is written:

Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Believe me I understand both your zeal for truth, and your disdain of the things of the world; but in this aspect your doctrine is not sound in that you simply try to replace one carnal understanding (carnal pagan rituals) with another (carnal Jewish rituals); but we must come out of this manner of thinking, and cast away the carnal understanding and all of its motions and deceptions: only the spiritual understanding will remain in the temple of God. Understand that "come out of her" is not a request that can be chosen or denied any more than "let there be light" could be chosen or denied. It is simply the act of the Sovereign Lord, and will come to each at the appointed time.

Bear in mind I'm in no way saying you are bad, or "hell bound" or a false prophet or any such thing; we are brothers, and I speak as a brother. These carnal things must needs perish from our thoughts through the work of the everlasting fire: the Word of God.

Michael
You don't know why you celebrate this day.


Again, I do not celbrate ANY holiday; simply because I have no care of the carnal things. Neither will I condemn a man before the time, nor advise any man commit to carnality and carnal understandings. Let every man be fully persuaded of these things in his own mind as is written Ro 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

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The True Meaning Of Christ-Mass
They tell us that it is the season to be jolly. It is a time of ornaments, red and green decorations, silver bells, holly, mistletoe and colored lights. It is also a time of department store Santas calling out their universal mantra, "Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas." Nearly all of the realm of so-called "Christianity" join in and repeat this same greeting, "Merry Christmas!"

Although we hear these words constantly as they resonate millions of times throughout the land, almost nobody understands what they are really saying. It is the purpose of this tract to take the words, "Merry Christmas" and examine the true meaning and essence of those words.

A true Christian would want to examine everything they say, because Jesus said in Matthew 12:36-37, "But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." We will now set aside all of the customs, glitter and traditions of Christmas, which were taken from pagan witchcraft and popularized by the Roman Catholic Church, and we will focus on the true meaning of the words, "Merry Christmas!"

The word "Merry" is simple to define. It unquestionably means to be happy, joyful and light-hearted. The word "merry" fits into the ambience of laughter and frivolity. This word "merry" by itself is innocent and innocuous enough, but as we will now see, it becomes heinously blasphemous when used with the word "Christmas."

Here let it be noted that most people think that the word, "Christmas" means "the birth of Christ." By definition, it means "death of Christ", and I will prove it by using the World Book Encyclopedia, the Catholic Encyclopedia, and a book entitled, The Mass In Slow Motion.

If you are an honest, sincere and discerning Christian, please read on; if not, you might as well stop right here. The World Book Encyclopedia defines "Christmas" as follows: "The word Christmas comes from "Cristes Maesse", an early English phrase that means "Mass of Christ." (1) It is interesting to note that the word "Mass", as used by the Roman Catholics, has traditionally been rejected by the so-called Protestants, such as Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals and so on. The word "Mass" is strictly a Catholic word and thus, so is "Christ-Mass."

It would stand to reason, that since all of these denominations love and embrace "Christ-Mass", that December 25th is the great homecoming day, when all of the Protestants become Catholic for a day. It would seem that all of the so-called "wayward daughters" of the Romish church return to their mother, the scarlet harlot. Thus, all of the so-called Protestant churches could sing to the Pope that popular song "I'll be home for Christmas."

As previously stated, the word "Mass" in religious usage means a "death sacrifice." The impact of this fact is horrifying and shocking; for when the millions of people are saying, "Merry Christmas", they are literally saying "Merry death of Christ!" Furthermore, when the fat man in the red suit laughs boisterously and says, "Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas", he is mocking and laughing at the suffering and bleeding Saviour, who died for our sins. He does this while parents place their little children into his waiting arms to hear his false promises of gifts that he says he will give them. Consider what you are saying when you say "Merry Christmas."

What is so amusing about our Saviour's painful death? What is so funny? Why is Santa laughing? Why are you going along with it? Your words do count and Satan knows it. Yes, the word "Mass" does mean "death sacrifice", and to cement that fact, we will consider the definition of the inventors of the religious application of the word "Mass." I am looking at page 537 of the Catholic Encyclopedia, which says, "In the Christian law, the supreme sacrifice is that of the Mass." It goes on to say, "The supreme act of worship consists essentially in an offering of a worthy victim to God, the offering made by a proper person, as a priest, the destruction of the victim." (2) Please note carefully the word, "victim" of the Mass. The Latin word for victim is "Hostia" from which the word "host" is derived. The Mass, by definition of those who coined the word, is a sacrifice involving a victim. There is no other meaning for the word "Mass" or "Christ-Mass." On page 110 of a book entitled "The Mass In Slow Motion", we find the following words: "It is only with the consecration that the sacrifice of the Mass is achieved. I have represented the Mass to you, more than once, as a kind of ritual dance." (3)

In essence, the Mass is the ceremonial slaying of Jesus Christ over and over again, followed by the eating of his flesh and the drinking of his blood. The Mass is the death sacrifice, and the "Host" is the victim. This is official Roman Catholic doctrine, and "Christmas" is a word that they invented. Again, I ask, what is so merry about the pain, bleeding, suffering and death of Jesus Christ? Satan has done quite a job of getting millions of so-called "Christians" to blaspheme. What a deceiver he is.
Now you know the true meaning of the word "Christmas" or Mass of Christ. There is much more to know about this pagan holiday, and we will be glad to provide you with plenty of evidence that Jesus was not born on December 25th, and that Christmas is not only a lie, but is actually a witches' sabbat called "Yule" in clever disguise. Please contact us at the address below, and for the sake of your soul, flee from idolatry!

David J. Meyer

Acknowledgements:
01. World Book Encyclopedia, vol.3, p. 408, 1986 ed., World Book Inc., Chicago, IL

02. The Catholic Encyclopedia, R.C. Broderick, 1975 ed., Nihil Obstat, Richard J. Sklba, Censor Librorum. Imprimatur, Archbishop William E. Cousins, Milwaukee, WI.

03. The Mass In Slow Motion, Ronald Knox, 1948, Sheed & Ward, Inc., New York, NY. Nihil Obstat, E.C. Messenger, Censor Deputatus. Imprimatur, E. Morrogh Bernard, Vic. Gen.

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Re: "LIARS"...........ALL!

Does the Lord care about these carnal things? Not at all


I just read John's response again and must disagree with him. Yes, the Lord does care because this activity falls right in line with the commandments that tell us not to have other gods before me. This doesn't mean you can have another god as long as it doesn't come before Almighty God, it means "no other god". Whatever takes the place of the Lord in your life or dominates your life such as the pagan holidays are an abomination to HIM. And, I sure hope, there isn't going to be a comment made that the Commandments no longer matter. While we are still mortal beings, we are to observe His Commandments to the best of our ability. They were written by the very finger of The Great " I Am" so who is modern man to say, "He doesn't mean that, we are free, we live by Grace?"

There's no idol at the center, an idol is worshipped as a god- anyone falling prostrate before their Christmas tree and cry "O Tree! O God! Go before me now and cast down my enemies O Tree! Hear me O Tree and I will tithe a tenth to thee!" Of course not. And the passage you are quoting continually is not about a Christmas tree it is talking about an idol:

Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.

This is describing the heathen going out and cutting down a tree, taking the wood, forming an image of their god, covering it with gold and silver, and then carrying it around and worshipping it and calling on it to help them in their doings. But these idols can't even speak or walk of themselves, the worshippers have to fasten nails to make sure they stand up, and carry them around because the image itself can't even move itself; they can't even speak- it's just a piece of wood and isn't a god, so the Lord says "Do not fear them" and he is not talking about a Christmas tree in any way, shape or form. No one fears a Christmas tree is going to smite them.


John, Every Christmas, we would stand in front of the tree or in a Christmas program and sing, "Oh! Christmas Tree, Oh, Christmas Tree in German. The song spoke about it's beautiful branches, being so green in summer time....so beautiful in winter time, etc. I remember how awed a child could get over the beautiful Christmas Tree.

The description is exactly what people do every December. They either buy the tree or go out and find one to their liking, cut it down, fasten it so it stands and decorate it.

I believe Jeremiah was told by God to warn the Children of Israel NOT to do these things. The Fir Tree is, especially offensive, because it is the kind of grove where the heathen would gather to do their pagan rituals. It is the Fir Tree which the Illuminati planted to replace the Sycamore that was destroyed at 9/11. Then to go out and bring one into one's home is making an effort to go against God's words to His people.

As Spiritual Israel, which I now understand Gentiles become when they become Believers along with the natural Israel Believers, we see so much more clearly what is meant by the Wild Olive Branch grafted into the Root of Christ along with the Natural Olive Branch. So, shouldn't we take heed to these words given by God through the prophet?

I think, one can go to the other extreme of making too much ridicule out of these words so that it let's people think it is all just harmless fun.

That season brings the most cherished of memories to most and the hardest pagan holiday from which to walk away. When you can do that, you have truly made a choice to follow God's warnings of "Don't do this, Don't do that" because that is what the pagans do.

As for the time when Jesus was born...does it matter? Apparently the Heathens have instilled their Sun god's birthday so strongly into the hearts and minds of Christians that they don't even care because they just can't give it up....even after they find out He was born in the fall of the year when the sheep were still in the pastures. .

As the days come closer to His return, why hang onto something that isn't even honoring the One Who Came and died for us?

Really, why do it?

Gerlinda

Re: "LIARS"...........ALL!

Friends,

Do you ever pray?
Do you truly BELIEVE Jesus Christ is REAL?
Do you believe satan is REAL?

DO YOU READ YOUR BIBLE?

If you answer, not sure, not much, or NO to any of the above, how can you worship God, with respect, enough to matter?

You have to READ, RESEARCH, PRAY for the HOLY SPIRIT to guide your studies, THINK, and LEARN HISTORY.......REAL HISTORY, and DIG, DIG, DIG, INTO ALL available forms of knowledge, to learn the "TRUTH"!

If you will do this, enough, you will be able to see the deception that has been foisted upon mankind by the DEVIL! God will draw close to your heart, and you will be shown right from wrong!

Jesus said about the end times, it will be just like it was in the days of Noah! ONLY 8 PEOPLE WERE SAVED THEN FROM DESTRUCTION!!!!!

There are probably 10, 20 , or 100, times more people on the earth NOW! But that is STILL going to be VERY FEW PEOPLE that are saved from destruction! This is a very SMALL percentage!

THINK about this! If this is the case, then the majority of todays population are (DECEIVED). That means that whatever is the popular thing going at this time and excepted by the masses of people, is WRONG, scripturally! Revelation 12:9.......satan has deceived the entire world!

Revelation says that there are witnesses that will be hated by the people because they don't want to hear the TRUTH! The truth is, holidays are NOT Holy Days! By using traditions of man and mans emotional weakness, satans church has mimicked God and led man astray from Gods days to keep holy. These days were instituted by God right in the beginning of mans history, and you can read about it in the old testament in Exodus. The feasts of the Lord are to be kept FOREVER! Just as the 10 commandments are for EVER!

Matthew 15:3...Why do ye also transgress the commandments of God by your traditions?
4.....For God commanded, saying, Honor thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

Jesus is asking them why they do not honor the fifth commandment. If the commandments mean nothing, then why did Jesus ask them why are they breaking them? He goes on to say,

Matthew 15:9....But in vain they do worship me, teaching for DOCTRINES the commandments of men.

Webster's Dictionary meaning for the word VAIN:

vain useless; unavailing; fruitless; empty; worthless; conceited.

Christmas is a tradition of man. It is a useless holiday used by satan to deceive the people into blasphemy, instigated by the Roman Catholic church under Constantine in 323 AD. Music, pageantry, commercialism, and LIES! All to mislead the worship of man back to satan himself.

Look it up on your computer on Wikipedia!

Jeremiah 10 explains the use of idols for worship as being a vain custom! The Christmas tree is a fit extention of Jeremiahs prophesy! It is useless. Would God have us do useless things in our worship of him? NO!

Again, we need to keep the 10 commandments to the best of our ability. It is our road map. But because man was such a hard head, Jesus came and simplified things for us with 2 commandments.

1. Love God with all your heart
2. Love your neighbor as yourself

The thing is, if we love God with all our heart, we will WANT to keep his commandments. Jesus knows us and if we try our best, we will be forgiven for our mistakes. The main thing is that we TRY! And the commandments are there for us as a road map to righteousness. We are saved by grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. But there are still rules that we are to live by:

James 2:17....Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

18...Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

19...Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

20...But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Read on through verse 26 for further understanding.


PRAY IT OVER.........and Come out of her my people!

And God Bless,
Michael