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Hi Steven,
I know this site is a treasure trove of discussion on all the issues you mentioned as I read and view as many as I can and am blessed by them. I am sorry if I made it sound like John and I were the only ones doing so, as in that regard nothing could be further from the truth!
What I was trying to say, and obvious not doing a very good job of it, was the timing of the 10th day of the 10 month is happening really soon and with everything else that is happening in the world, it would be a time to look at for this major deception to occur. It just seems that so many are looking for the rapture of the church at a time when it could be just the opposite. I am not saying that those on this site are, as much as what I see on other sites.
Also, I have not seen many articles about the coming of the False Messiah recently, and have never seen one that gave a good date in which to expect it in regards to what is revealed in Scripture. It is news to me, and it seemed important to share. It does worry me that millions may deceived by this, but as you seemed to point out, it is all in the Lord's hands, and He has it all under control.
Thanks for you input. I enjoyed the Elijah story.
God Bless,
Patti C.
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Hi Patti, just have a question and a speculation, if the false messiah is coming on Tevet 10 then in order for the world to embrace such a person wouldn't they need a reason to embrace him? True believers believe that the rapture will take place before our messiah sets foot on earth so anyone claiming that status in my mind would immediately seem to be the false messiah. In other words, if we're going to meet Jesus in the air 1 Thess 4:13-18 then why would I believe this would be Him on Tevet 10 here on earth? I would also speculate that this false messiah is going to rescue the world out of some seemingly impossible mess which to me would be the only way the WHOLE world would embrace someone, because if things are as they are right now why would people have need to embrace him? It is true there are many now who are in dire situations but the majority at the moment really have no need for a messiah in their worldly thinking. So my theory is if this person or deception is coming on Tevet 10 then something drastic or disastrous is going to happen prior to that and if we're still here we'll know it's not Jesus because that's not how He said He would rescue us. I've seen some dates popping up about 11/21-22 and 11/28 about a possible EMP attack shutting down all the power grids maybe this could be the disaster the false messiah is going rescue the world out of in order for everyone to embrace him?
Dear walknbyfaith,
Great questions and insightful speculations! Thank you for joining this discussion. Actually, I am still working on finding out what could take place to make the world believe this strong delusion. Right now I strongly feel that it is tied in with Comet Ison, and will be presenting more about that shortly. Plus, even though I feel strongly that it will be this year that does not mean it will be. The date of the 10th day of the 10th month is one that gives us the time of year to expect the False Messiah, in whatever form that “coming” may take and whatever year it may fall on. Much like the Last Great Day gives us the timing and season that Christ will return.
As to meeting the Lord in the air, if the “being” that is coming is extra dimensional, it certainly would be possible for many of his followers to be caught up in some way, as in a fake rapture. I just don’t know how that will play out, but I do think there are many possibilities, as this has been planned for centuries. Another real possibility is that this “glorious being” is so convincing that millions of modern day Christians who are not grounded in the Truth, will be taken with this deception, as Christianity has become so mixed in with Islam and New Age doctrine, which believe that their Messiah is coming to earth.
I agree with your speculation that many things could happen between now and then, either having to do with Ison, or something planned by the Illuminati, and their time and weather manipulation, that could possibly lead to such destruction that the world will be longing to be saved. I strongly agree that it will have to be a situation of chaos that this False Messiah will bring order to, and as such, right now, we have many possibilities in almost every regard. Either Ison, or major earthquakes, or financial collapse, we are ripe for major disasters on all fronts.
Mainly, I wanted to alert Christians to the date when the False Messiah most likely will come, as it is one that is Biblically supported, and one that I had never seen or heard about, until John Cobb presented his findings. Other than that, I can only speculate and research into what it all means. I will continue to do that, not just as to it being a false rapture, but other possible great deceptions that could take place, that Christians not grounded in Christ and the true Gospel, could be taken in.
Thank you again, and bless you for joining in this conversation. I am sorry if I could only answer your questions with more questions, but as to exactly what and how this will all come about I really cannot answer at this time. I am still looking into it and will hopefully present more puzzle pieces and points to ponder in the near future.
We have to remember that God is allowing this to take place, and therefore it is in His hands. He is the one sending this Strong Delusion, so anything is possible.
JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!
Your sister in Christ,
Patti C.
John, point taken, so what would say about the skeptics and atheist in order for them to embrace him? Seeing is not necessarily believing if it were there wouldn't be any skeptics. My point was there are a lot of NON religious folk out there who don't give a second thought about God or allah or buddah, secular minded people who will embrace this guy. At no point in history has everyone embraced one individual even God Himself which is why in my opinion, in order for an atheist to make that leap, this person would have to rescue them out of something. I'm not being dogmatic about it but I'd think it would be a pretty hard sell otherwise.
Hi Walknbyfaith,
You brought up some really good points, and I hope John Cobb will see this post and answer, as I have already put in my take on it. I think you are right about many secular people who have no thoughts about spiritual matters and therefore are rather neutral on this issue. Personally, I think they have a better chance of being saved during the tribulation then the ones who have been fooled by false religions and false doctrines. But, the Lord tells us He is the One sending the Strong Delusion, so maybe because they never considered these things, and His existence, they will be overtaken by it.
I am more convinced than ever that ISON has a major role in all of this. I hope you are keeping up on all the insightful information being presented here on this forum, everyday on this subject. If you have read my studies about the 144,000 and the sealing that will happen before the Great Tribulation, you will see that I believe that this is what so many are seeing as a rapture. Yet, the meeting takes place in the air and they will return to earth in resurrected bodies and protect the church and evangelize the rest of the world. None of us goes to heaven and stays there, until the very end. There is a difference between Satan's wrath and God's wrath, the 144,000 are sealed right before Satan's wrath and the rest of the Church is raptured before God's wrath at the pouring out of the vials.
I won't go into that all here, but have a study that I am preparing and hopefully will begin posting tomorrow that explains this in a most biblically supported way. I hope it will help you understand how all these pieces fit into the whole puzzle of the awesome mystery of God's plan for His people.
Again, thanks for your input, and hopefully John will be able to shed more light on all of this.
God Bless you,
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Patti C.
John, I imagine that scenario might play out for some, but, there are people who don't even know who Jesus or Muhammad is. I just look at all the households with teens and the youth of today and what they're being taught in school, who weren't raised in any kind of spiritual upbringing, they only now what their science teacher has taught them or how about career oriented people, successful just enjoying life. There are people who are completely oblivious and apathetic to anything spiritual. I remember overhearing a conversation in the mall with two teenage girls around Christmas, one girl said to the other "Did you know Christmas is Jesus' birthday? She replied, "What? Huh uh?". I've read how some are speculating it might come in the form of alien contact and they're going to tell us we are just beings of their watered down DNA. There are some who might buy that if that went down but I'm also guessing there are a lot who would not. However this plays out it will be unprecedented, and compelling enough for most all to embrace,that we can be sure of.
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