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Theroies, Interpetations Matter not, Events will dictate truth

Theories and interpreatations and prophetic ideas and orientations, whatever they are called matter not. Its all hypothetical and able to be revised after the FACTS dictate a change.

The Lord allows it, and expected it in advance. We do not have to know it all in adavance, the Lord just asks us to know the basic pattern so that after the fact in HINDSIGHT of the first two major events, we can figure it out in detail. We do not have to get upset with others and call them names if they aren't classified with our particular theory. As brethren in Christ, the Lord has given us the time to change and get more exact if we are deserving and really want to know, so we can truly serve HIM to the END.



WE have to lighten up on our brethren and just discuss things like the two brethren walking along the road way discussing prophecy after Jesus was crucified. To help them out, Jesus can and better explained it to them, as they went. The same is true with us, just discuss and be rrational and be ready to change if necessary if events dictate to you that the FACTS of curtent events and HINDSIGHT RECENT PAST EVENTS dictate it.

Bravado won't help now, be patient and discuss and wait and see.

I would suggest to you that we are only expected to have HINDSIGHT after the first events take place worldwide and PUBLICLY SEEN and KNOWN, publicized and DONE.

ONE is the Covenant signing by ten nations

TWO is the start of sacrificing before the 3rd Temple
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SEE http://www.davidjayjordan.com/2HindsightPropheticEvents.html



Let me first say prophecy was given by past prophets so the end time prophets would have a basis, a standard from which to start so they can finnish. We can not scripturally say, all prophets are evil and false. The Lord shall raise up prophets in the End Time, thinking other wise would surely make us false. So try the prophets and let them speak. ... forget this labeling and
name calling and just discuss prophecy and precepts.

Therefore let me share with you the Lord's easy HINDSIGHT prophetic markers, that unaware Christians can finnally see and and recognize that will finnally get them moving away from trust in nationalism, church, politics, militaries etc. etc...

ONE.
Simple straightforward, the COVENANT is signed by TEN COUNTRIES. Come on nothing can be more blatant than the world stage in ten countries signing the Covenant. That is such an easy basic event, that even the dumbest of dumb can NOT miss. Its in Daniel and repeated in Revelation. It will take zero discernment to read about it in the news, and see it on TV. I say it takes the Iranian war to melt them together into compliance.. .but whatever, first there has to be a COVENANT.

TWO
Secondly, according to the days of Daniel seven months later after the Covenant signing, the Jewish priesthood will START TO SACRIFICE before their Temple, the 3rd temple. This can only be done after a PEACE has been established and a Covenant of the militaries and governments signed and approved.

So then Christian brethren, all Christians better get busy because the written in stone timeline of the Last 7 years has started.

Forget needing to know when the Lord is coming back, for what you have to determine THEN, in the early years after the SIGNING and SACRIFICING is when the ***** gets destroyed and your positioning as whether you are serving the Lord. For you need to have been serving the Lord and figure out through prayer whether you will run to so called safe havens or whether
you GATHER as I would suggest, or whether you do nothing and just close your eyes.

The decisions are yours. But the first TWO events of End Time prophecy are extremely easy to discern.... They haven't happenned so look for this TWO major MAJOR events.

IHS

David

PS ) Isn't it amazing how simple the Lord made prophecy so we could even
have hindsight rather than foresight on the first 2 major events.
David Jay Jordan


Re: Theroies, Interpetations Matter not, Events will dictate truth




Hi David,


It is also impossible to learn anything without learning what others have to say.

I have politely asked you to review a few links and videos to better understand the view points against the 7 year treaty and 7 year Pre tribulation theory.

If you choose not to review them that is your choice but it will limit your ability to discuss your position on this site since without reading the bible and comparing the different views we will be going in circles without a basis.


I pray you will view the videos so that your 7 year theories can be based on what the bible says and not what you want it to say or have heard taught by other pastors, teachers, theologians.

I pray the HOLY SPIRIT will lead you to all TRUTH.



Respectfully,


Steven

Re: Theroies, Interpetations Matter not, Events will dictate truth




For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes

Col 4:6

6 Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.
KJV




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Hi David, welcome aboard and thanks for sharing your thoughts. It is preferred that when you give an opinion that you give us scripture ( chapter and verse )to back up your statements.

2 Timothy 3:16

King James Version (KJV)


16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:






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Rev 22:18-21

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Re: Theroies, Interpetations Matter not, Events will dictate truth

Hi David,
I enjoyed your post, as much wisdom can be gleaned from it. I'm always amazed that no matter how I interpret prophecy or study the interpretations of others, how far above our thoughts are the thoughts of The Lord. It seems most prophecy was not put here for us to know the future, but that when we look back on the fulfilled prophetical event, we can see how the Mighty Hand of God works and how that only He can know the future. The debates seventy five years ago were not about Israel becoming a nation because no one believed that prophecy would be fulfilled literally. Now looking back....it changed the way we view all prophecy now.
Keep posting as those who come here love to reason the scriptures.
Agape
Charles Holler Sr

Re: Theroies, Interpetations Matter not, Events will dictate truth

Steven



Hi David,


It is also impossible to learn anything without learning what others have to say.

I have politely asked you to review a few links and videos to better understand the view points against the 7 year treaty and 7 year Pre tribulation theory.

If you choose not to review them that is your choice but it will limit your ability to discuss your position on this site since without reading the bible and comparing the different views we will be going in circles without a basis.


I pray you will view the videos so that your 7 year theories can be based on what the bible says and not what you want it to say or have heard taught by other pastors, teachers, theologians.

I pray the HOLY SPIRIT will lead you to all TRUTH.



Respectfully,


Steven


Darn Steven I was going to write the same thing HERE. Discuss without complaining the other side must take your side.

Steven, personnally I prefer the written word which can be copied and pasted and studied rather than a video which can not, and which takes hours to view.

Besides if the video is correct or valid, its proponents would be able to explain the concept rather than say watch a video, where the speaker is not even present to respond to queries. If you are correct, then respond, discuss.

As mentioned there is a seven year covenant...... we shall see.

If a supposed rapture happens before that time, then a no profit rapture happens and we just are sent upwards without ever using the faith, knowledge and wisdom we learned HERE.

Onward Christian Soldiers to the COVENANT< SACRIFICE, NUCLEAR WAR, AC, ABOMINATION< TRUMPETS and then RAPTURE

LIJ

David

Re: Theroies, Interpetations Matter not, Events will dictate truth

I have given you hyperlinks that give every detail in minute ways. It is written so it can be studied and discerned, and responded tooo.

It is my personal website, and therefore as you can see, I can easily answer queries.

Thanks for writing, and discussing

LIJ

YBIJ

David

Re: Theroies, Interpetations Matter not, Events will dictate truth


Hi David,

I tried to share your site.

I have also shared videos.

I guess my style of sharing scripture and information is not your style.


So, I will leave you to share as you like.

I will not however be able to agree with you on a lot of your opinion and interpretations.

I will continue to read and study as I have and will continue to rely on the HOLY SPIRIT to teach me all things.

Don't be surprised if others do not agree with your 7 year theories.

Respectfully,


God Bless

Steven

Re: Theroies, Interpetations Matter not, Events will dictate truth

Have to go brethren, your interpretation are too hard to figure out, too divergent, and besides nobody discusses anything.

Might be back after the Covenant Signing after the Mid East War breaks out.

All the best, stay close to Jesus, and He will sort things out for you, if you are deserving and if you want to serve HIM til the very End.

LIC

YBIC

David