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God's time line (of history AND the future) is revealed in Israel, and to know where we are on that time line, we watch Israel. I am not disputing your dates or numbers; however, I believe it is more important to the timeline to go by the Sabbaths and the Sabbatical cycles, which have their own timeline.

I posted for many years on The Five Doves and over the last 15 years I have changed course due to what is termed "progressive revelation" which is "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little. Isa 28:13 So, if any one recognizes something in my writing now that is different (and it is) from previous years, please don't compare it to my former opinions. I believe our desire and our efforts to know are because God has set eternity in the hearts of men. Ecclesiastes 3:11 says "He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end." But if God had not "set eternity in our hearts"....if He had not created a vacuum in our very souls causing us to wonder about Him, to search for Him, to have a spiritual hunger to know Him......if none of this were so, we would not be here writing back and forth to one another. I am copying below my "timeline" based on the Sabbatical cycles and the Jacob's Trouble analogy which I believe is exactly what is happening as the dual fulfillment of Jacob's Trouble in Genesis 29-31. The Time Line itsself is not very detailed, but there are many details in the study of it that accompany it. If you want to question any part of it, I will be happy to reply. Otherwise, I just offer it to you for your own perusal.



TIMELINE
*Jubilee Timeline - Genesis 6:3 > "Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."
120 X 50 Jubilee Years = 6000 years.

The 6,000 years/man's 6 'days' ended on Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 30, 2000 (5760)


* God's time line of history is revealed in Israel, and to know where we are on that time line, watch Israel.



1866-1867 - Sabbath year belonging to previous cycle

1867-1868 - 1st year in cycle - Jubilee

* Aliyah from Austria & Hungry

1868-1869 - 2nd year in cycle

1869-1870 - 3rd year into cycle

1870-1871 - 4th year into cycle

1871-1872 - 5th year into cycle

1872-1873 - 6th year into cycle

1873-1874 - 7th year into - Sabbath year belonging to previous cycle (1)

1874-1875 - 1st year into cycle

1875-1876 - 2nd year into cycle

1876-1877 - 3rd year into cycle

1877-1878 - 4th year into cycle

1878-1879 - 5th year into cycle

1879-1880 - 6th year into cycle

1881-1882 - 7th year into cycle - Sabbath year belonging to previous cycle (2)

1882-1883 - 1st year into cycle

1883-1884 - 2nd year into cycle

1884-1885 - 3rd year into cycle

1885-1886 - 4th year into cycle

1886-1887 - 5th year into cycle

1887-1888 - 6th year into cycle

1888-1889 - 7th year into cycle - Sabbath year belonging to previous cycle (3)

1889-1890 - 1st year into cycle

1890-1891 - 2nd year into cycle

1891-1892 - 3rd year into cycle

1892-1893 - 4th year into cycle

1893-1894 - 5th year into cycle

1894-1895 - 6th year into cycle

1895-1896 - 7th year into cycle - Sabbath year belonging to previous cycle (4)

1896-1897 - 1st year into cycle

* First Zionist Congress convened by Theodor Herzl in Basel, Switzerland; Zionist

Organization founded August 29, 1897 & adoption of the National Anthem: The

Hatikvah

1897-1898 - 2nd year into cycle

1898-1899 - 3rd year into cycle

1899-1900 - 4th year into cycle

1900-1901 - 5th year into cycle

1901-1902 - 6th year into cycle

1902-1903- 7th year into cycle - Sabbath year belonging to previous cycle (5)

1903-1904 - 1st year into cycle

* Aliyah, mainly from Russia and Poland

1904-1905 - 2nd year into cycle

1905-1906 - 3rd year into cycle

1906-1907 - 4th year into cycle

1907-1908 - 5th year into cycle

1908-1909 - 6th year into cycle

* First kibbutz, Degania (Degania

* First modern all-Jewish city, Tel Aviv, founded

1909-1910 - 7th year into cycle - Sabbath year belonging to previous cycle (6)

1910-1911 - 1st year into cycle

1911-1912 - 2nd year into cycle

1912-1913 - 3rd year into cycle

1913-1914 - 4th year into cycle

1914-1915 - 5th year into cycle

1915-1916 - 6th year into cycle

1916-1917 - 7th year into cycle - Sabbath year belonging to previous cycle(7)

(7th shmita/49th year)

1917-1918- - 1st year into cycle - Jubilee

* Balfour Declaration Nov 2, 1917 - The first political recognition of Zionist

aims - the British Cabinet, and Zionist leaders made known in the form of a letter by

Arthur James Lord Balfour to Lord Rothschild committing to the idea of establishing

a Jewish home in Palestine (Eretz Yisrael).

* Gen. Allenby captures Jerusalem from Turks Dec. 9, 1917 Hanukkah.

* You will see a pattern emerge regarding the Jubilee years which are "times of

refreshing" and time of restoring everything, the designated year of liberty,

freedom, forgiveness of all debts, and restitution of all lands and properties and

inheritances." Leviticus 25

1918-1919 - 2nd year in cycle

1919-1920 - 3rd year in cycle

1920-1921 - 4th year in cycle

1921-1922 - 5th year in cycle

1922-1923 - 6th year in cycle

1923-1924 - 7th year of cycle - Sabbath year (1)

1924-1925 - 1st year in cycle

1925-1926 - 2nd year in cycle

1926-1927 - 3rd year in cycle

1927-1928 - 4th year in cycle

1928-1929 - 5th year in cycle

1929-1930 - 6th year in cycle

1930-1931 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (2)

1931-1932 - 1st year in cycle

1932-1933 - 2nd year in cycle

1933-1934 - 3rd year in cycle

1934-1935 - 4th year in cycle

1935-1936 - 5th year in cycle

1936-1937 - 6th year in cycle

1937-1938 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (3)

1938-1939 - 1st year in cycle

1939-1940 - 2nd year in cycle

1940-1941 - 3rd year in cycle

1941-1942 - 4th year in cycle

1942-1943 - 5th year in cycle

1943-1944 - 6th year in cycle

1944-1945 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (4)

1945-1946 - 1st year in cycle - begins the 70 year countdown - Why?

* Because the post WW II/Holocaust message was clear > the only

future for the Jewish survivors was to be found in their ancient

homeland. Only in their own sovereign state would the Jews be safe.

Just as Moses had led the ancient Hebrews out of Egypt, the Zionist

leadership was to take them out of Europe. The birth of the Jewish

Nation for the 2nd time was at hand!

* WWII ends August 15th, 1945

1946-1947 - 2nd year in cycle

1947-1948 - 3rd year in cycle

* May 14, 1948 State of Israel declared by U.N. vote.

* See addendum for The Bible Predicted the Date of Israel's Return

* Lesson of the Fig Tree Israel - from birth to growing leaves, to maturity, the generation

that will see all things fulfilled.

1948-1949 - 4th year in cycle

1949-1950 - 5th year in cycle

1950-1951 - 6th year in cycle

1951-1952 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (5) - 7th year of 70 years

1952-1953 - 1st year in cycle

1953-1954 - 2nd year in cycle

1954-1955 - 3rd year in cycle

1955-1956 - 4th year in cycle

1956-1957- 5th year in cycle

1957-1958 - 6th year in cycle

1958-1959 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (6) - 14th year of 70 years

1959-1960 - 1st year in cycle

1960-1961 - 2nd year in cycle

1961-1962 - 3rd year in cycle

1962-1963 - 4th year in cycle

1963-1964 - 5th year in cycle

1964-1965 - 6th year in cycle

1965-1966 - 7th year in cycle - 7th Sabbath year (7th Shmita/49th year)

21st year of 70 years

1966-1967 - 1st year in cycle - 50th year - Jubilee

* Israel captures Jerusalem in Six Day War.

* Notice: Jerusalem was captured in 1918 AND 1967 and BOTH

were Jubilee Years!

1967-1968 - 2nd year in cycle

1968-1969 - 3rd year in cycle

1969-1970 - 4th year in cycle

1970-1971 - 5th year in cycle

1971-1972 - 6th year in cycle

1972-1973 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (1) - 28th year of 70 years

1973-1974 - 1st year in cycle

* October 6-25, 1973 Yom Kippur War, a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and

Syria against Israel

1974-1975 - 2nd year in cycle

1975-1976 - 3rd year in cycle

1976-1977 - 4th year in cycle

1977-1978 - 5th year in cycle

1978-1979 - 6th year in cycle

1979-1980 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (2) - 35th year of 70 years

1980-1981 - 1st year in cycle

1981-1982 - 2nd year in cycle

1982-1983 - 3rd year in cycle

1983-1984 - 4th year in cycle

1984-1985 - 5th year in cycle

1985-1986 - 6th year in cycle

1986-1987 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (3) - 42nd year of 70 years

1987-1988 - 1st year in cycle

1988-1989 - 2nd year in cycle

1989-1990 - 3rd year in cycle

1990-1991 - 4th year in cycle

1991-1992 - 5th year in cycle

1992-1993 - 6th year in cycle

1993-1994 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (4) - 49th year of 70 years

* Oslo Accords (Land for Peace) signed on Sept. 13, 1993 and

presented to the world ON Rosh HaShanah Sept. 16, 1993.

* Oslo was signed in a Sabbath year belonging to the previous Sabbatical
cycle, therefore it was outside the beginning of the new Sabbatical

cycle which would begin the Three Weeks of Jacob's Trouble.

It was also outside (previous to) the ending of the 6th Day/6,000 yrs

according to the Hebrew calendar.

* Oslo was a 'Rehearsal' for the 70th Week because the 70th Week will also
begin with a Land Agreement - the confirming of THE (Abrahamic) Covenant.

* (See addendum "69th Week Continuing Chronolgy")

* Lead-in to the THREE Weeks of JACOB'S TROUBLE (three sets of 7

years totaling 21 years following the 3 chapters of Jacob's Trouble in Genesis 29, 30,

31.)

* Analogy > * Jacob desired Rachel and contracted with Laban to labor for 7 years for

her hand in marriage. But Laban deceived Jacob and lied to him, for he

had no intention of giving his younger daughter before the eldest.

* Israel desired Peace and contracted negotiations with Arafat & the

PLO for the next 7 years; but Yassar Arafat had no intention of agreeing

to peace with Israel and had, in fact, even refused to remove from the

PLO Charter the written intention to annilhate Israel.

* 7 years of a "lied-to-agreement."

1994-1995 - 1st year in cycle

1995-1996 - 2nd year in cycle

1996-1997 - 3rd year in cycle

1997-1998 - 4th year in cycle

1998-1999 - 5th year in cycle

1999-2000 - 6th year in cycle

2000-2001 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (5) - 56th year of 70 years

* Israel's Rabbis declare the end of 6,000 years according to the

Hebrew calendar.

* 6th day ends, 7th day begins / 7th Day is the Last Day / The

Lord's Day.

* Israel's Rabbis announce: "We have entered the Time of Jacob's

Trouble" (which Israel/"Jacob will be saved out of.")



2001-2002 - 1st year in cycle
* FIRST WEEK OF JACOB'S TROUBLE

* Intifada begins - On September 28, 2000, just after dawn, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
enters the Temple Mount. He states "I came here with a message of peace."

* Analogy: Jacob had come in peace, and agreed to labor 7 years for the desire of his

heart (Rachel/Peace) but it had been a lied-to-agreement. After being deceived, he

agrees to labor another 7 years for Rachel/Peace, but is instead subjected to much

'trouble.'

* The Arab Intifada (uprising) breaks out amid lies & false accusations of Israeli
atrocities and instigation. For the remainder of this Sabbatical Cycle

Israel, will experience terrorism, suicide bombers, bus bombings, etc. at the hands of

Esau's descendants, the Arab Palestinians.
2002-2003 - 2nd year in cycle
2003-2004 - 3rd year in cycle

2004-2005 - 4th year in cycle

2005-2006 - 5th year in cycle

2006-2007 - 6th year in cycle

2007-2008 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year (6) - 63rd year of 70 years

* Sabbath year begins quietly.

* The Sabbath year 2007-2008, before the start of the new Sabbatical

cycle & 2nd Week of Jacob's Trouble, was indeed a QUIETer year than

the previous 6 primarily due to Israel's completion of the "Fence" which

prevented suicide bombings and terrorism for the most part.

* Analogy: Jacob had now completed 14 years of laboring in Laban's household, working

for Laban's daughters. He was now no longer "under contract" and during

this "quiet year" Rachel conceived & bare Joseph, after which Jacob

considered going "home" to his own country. But Laban asks him to "tarry"

and will pay whatever wages he wants. Jacob considers and accepts,

turning his attention to his "economy" - building wealth & an inheritance

from Laban's flocks & herds.

2008-2009 - 1st year in cycle

* SECOND WEEK OF JACOB'S TROUBLE

* At the very start of the new Sabbatical cycle & 2nd Week of Jacob's
Trouble, Global attention focuses on the economy (just as the analogy shows Jacob

had turned his attention to his economy/inheritance) for On Rosh HaShanah 2008

the Stock Market crashes at 777.68

(three sevens plus .68 for the year of 5768/2008.)

* Barack Hussein Obama elected President, giving him a seat of power and

possibly setting the stage for the coming antichrist.....or, at least setting the stage for the

demise of the United States being the reason the U.S. is not seen as a world power in the

last days.

2009-2010 - 2nd year in cycle

2010-2011 - 3rd year in cycle

2011-2012 - 4th year in cycle

2012-2013 - 5th year in cycle

2013-2014 - 6th year in cycle

2014-2015 - 7th year in cycle - 7th Sabbath year (7th Shmita/49th year)

* 70th year of 70 years for the 70th Week!

* (Head of Biblical year) Nisan 1, 5774..................April 1, 2014.

* Passover lunar eclipse on April 15-16 2014

* Solar eclipse on April 29, 2014

* (Head of civil year) Tishri 1, 5774..................Sept. 25-26, 2014


* Tabernacles lunar eclipse on October 9, 2014

* Solar eclipse on October 23, 2014

2015-2016 - 1st year in cycle - 50th year - Jubilee

* THIRD WEEK OF JACOB'S TROUBLE

* THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL BEGINS

* September 13, 2015 -The Resurrection/Rapture during a new moon, before the start of the 70th Week. If you believe in a pre-trib rapture, this may be when it occurs: when the full number of Gentiles have come in before the start of the 70th Week/Daniel 9:27 to be fulfilled for ISRAEL's Redemption.

* Opening of the First Seal - rider on a white horse, bow with no arrows - destroying with 'Peace' - confirming the covenant (Daniel 9:27)

* Solar eclipse on March 20, 2015
* (Head of biblical year) Nisan 1, 5775.....March 21, 2015


* Passover lunar eclipse on...............................April 4-5, 2015


* Solar eclipse on.................................................Sept. 13, 2015

* (Head of civil year) Tishri 1, 5775............Sept. 14-15, 2015

* Tabernacles lunar eclipse on.........................Sept. 28, 2015

2016-2017 - 2nd year in cycle

2017-2018 - 3rd year in cycle

2018-2019- 4th year in cycle - mid-point of 70th Week - The Great Tribulation

* War in Heaven - Michael casts Satan & his angels out of Heaven - Satan
cast down to Earth, "full of rage, knowing his time is short." (Likely just

before Passover, Nisan 14, April 6-7.)

* Antichrist granted 42 months to "continue" - This is the time of the

Great Tribulation, spoken of by Jesus.

* Revelation of Antichrist when he commits abomination & declares

himself god and goes forth to conquer those he is given to conquer - God's

people the Jews and post-rapture saints.

* Those left behind "who loved not the truth" are

sent a strong delusion to believe a lie, they are those who were not written in the

Lamb's Book of Life before the foundations of the world, and they wonder

(worship) after the beast/satan.

2019-2020 - 5th year in cycle

2020-2021 - 6th year in cycle

2021-2022 - 7th year in cycle - 1st Sabbath year of the Millennial Kingdom
*Jesus Christ's Second Coming

* The Lord of the Sabbath returns on the Sabbath!



Shalom and until......

Sherry Vance

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This post included below here by Sherry Vance shows us that the full time allotted to man is wrapped up in the Jubilees and the Sabbath Years as the Lord has told it would be. It takes someone who really understands these to have put so much evidence together backed up with past history that it cannot be refuted. I stand marveled at her detailed evidence showing where we are now in God's historical plan for mankind. It ends in 2014/15.

I can't agree with this any more than I do and wish to say she has presented about the same time-lines that I believe are now so vital but she gave the firm evidence using the Jubilee years and the Sabbatical years, whereas I took pieces from various authors such as David Flynn in his "Tabernacle at the Center of Time" where he diagrams the full circumference of the earth divided into it's three divisions of 8,640 years each for a total of 25,920 years that make up the circle of earth. . In each third, is includes 4 of the 12 houses that make up the Heavenly Procession of God's allotted time to man. The final third of 8,600 years shows that Draco makes up 6,660 years. That is a huge constellation occupying the heavens and can be compared to, "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven and did cast them to the earth." That last third, which mankind is now finishing up includes Taurus, which means, "He Commeth". (He came and soon will come again) It also includes Gemini, the twins, that is a reference to the two fish, Israel and the Gentiles. In fact, it is seen in the heavens as one fish going up vertically while the other fish is still horizontally. They are joined together by a ribbon. The next is Cancer that includes the two Sheepfolds of Heaven where the believers will find their homes. Argo the Ship is seen here which carry the Redeemed Home. The final Sign is Leo which we all know represents Yeshua The Lion of the Tribe of Judah. What a wonderful picture is painted in those last 8,600 years.

In AD30, Flynn shows that Yeshua haMashiach paid the price required by Our Heavenly Father by becoming the Perfect Lamb of God that defeated Satan during those 6,660 years Draco made up most of that last period of time. His death defeated Satan (Draco) and left 1,980 years to be finished. The countdown began then and according to David Flynn, the total time left for us would end in 2012/2013. That is so close and isn't that what we pray will happen in this year 2013 that the Body of Christ will be removed from this earth while Yeshua deals with those that would come against Israel that will see A/C, the False Prophet and all those sons of Lucifer that have served in high places stopped completely from their devious plans to stop His Coming. We can expect to see the chemical attack upon Tel Aviv and Jerusalem (Small Pox, as per Bible Codes) which will see Damascus destroyed which leds to the final Battle of Armegeddon.

I hope you will try to carefully look at Sherry's evidence. The 7 years of Tribulation began already and the Bible speaks of "Great Tribulation" will come upon the earth. Never does it say 7 years of Tribulation. It speaks of a treaty made for 7 years being made but broken after 3 1/2 years. Antiochus Epiphanes IV did that already but if there is a second part to that same prophecy then the A/C, who is given only 3 1/2 year or 42 months is almost at the end of His Game. The attack upon Israel will bring the Wrath of God and we, the Body of Yeshua haMashiach are not appointed unto Wrath. So, there it is.

Do you see how wrong it is to insist on a pre-tribulation Rapture when it is impossible to fulfill that time line now. We are so far past that point. Those that have not read Sherry's Post, please do yourself a favor and study her wonderful documentation.

A Wonderful Job Sherry and Thank You so much,

Gerlinda


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Thank you for your excellent work, Sherry.

I cannot say I know it's true, because I have given up "dating" the rapture/resurrection, but it is an impressive pattern! To be freed on a Jubilee year seems right. Freed of illness, death, sin, temptation from the Evil One,
mourning, and confusion!

Mariel

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THE 'YEAR IS 2016' SPOKEN OF IN THE FOLLOWING SCRIPTURES.......





The next Jubilee Year is 2016 and will not happen again for another 50 years:



"For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, the YEAR of recompense for the cause of Zion. To proclaim the acceptable YEAR of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God. For the day of vengeance is in My heart, and the YEAR of My redeemed has come." Isaiah 34:8, 61:2, 63:4



Notice how God's vengeance is connected to the "year of My redeemed" which is the 'year of the rapture'.



In the following Scriptures notice how God's vengeance is connected to our redemption ie. our rapture:



"For these are the DAYS OF VENGEANCE, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. For there will be GREAT TRIBULATION in the land and WRATH upon THIS PEOPLE. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near." Luke 21:22. 21:23, 21:28



So you see, we are told to watch what happens to Israel as 'our sign' of our pending rapture. When God's vengeance of His great tribulation of Israel "begins to happen" we will know that we are in the YEAR of our rapture. "Wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together." Matthew 24:28



The year is 2016. The day is Nisan 10 which is the Day of Palms four days before Passover on Nisan 14.





According to Your Infallible Word, come Lord Jesus !



Bruce Warner, Scripturalist

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