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While JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"  Matt. 24:29 (KJV)

 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:   Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." I Thess. 4:16-17 (KJV)

"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed."  I Corin. 15:52

The "Resurrection" has been erroneously labeled The "Rapture". 

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10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

Luke 21:25-28

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.






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Dear Esther: August 19 2013

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Aug 19, 2013

I have enjoyed reading your column and the sound biblical answers and encouragement that you are giving so many people. I have some questions about how to apply biblical truth to people with narcissistic, entitled attitudes. I personally deal with several in the family, but no doubt I’m not the only one.

I think this is becoming a bigger problem all the time, as 2 Timothy 3:1-5 speaks of. What should be our biblical response to such people? “From such turn away” v. 5. How does that play out with a parent, or a spouse, or a grown child? Philippians 2:1-8 talks about esteeming others better than ourselves, looking out for others, and having a servant heart, yet the narcissistic, entitled people around you seem to think you OWE them those types of attitudes and your own humility seems to feed their greed.

How does one sort this out biblically? Where is the balance? I would love to see you address this issue, I personally could use some clarity in this area, but again I think it is a growing problem and I’m sure many others would benefit if this area were to be addressed!

Thank you and blessings to you!


Dear MW,
Thank you for your kind words. Your questions and concerns are good ones. Dealing with narcissistic, entitled attitudes is a real problem for virtually every true believer. Many of us have family members and friends who claim they are saved, but live like they are not and look down on those who live holy lives. Only God knows who is truly saved, but Scripture teaches, as you know, “By their fruits” we will know them. Sadly, much of the fruit we observe these days is not very appealing. In fact it is often rotten to the core.

A saved person is usually easy to read, but only God knows if some family members and friends are truly saved. All we can do is love them as much as possible as we are exhorted to do (Mark 12:30-31 ). How they react or what they think is something we cannot control. Our concern should be how Jesus views the way we treat others. If you feel like you are being used, all is not lost. You will be getting a reward in heaven for your kindness and rightful attitude.

It is not a good idea to cut-off loved ones unless there is abuse and chronic neglect or similar reasons. We must take the high ground as often as possible and not become frustrated, bitter, angry or flustered by their behavior (easier said than done). Pray as much as you can that they will start to live holy lives and show love to you and others. Also pray that the Lord gives you strength to endure their behavior and enables you to love them at all times.

If you get to the point that you can no longer take abuse from a family member you can cut-off relations. If it is your spouse, then that gets a bit more complicated and cutting him off is not something to do unless there is adultery or serious deception. And I am not saying divorce unless there is adultery, but sometimes a temporary separation with strong Christian counseling is needed to work out other issues.

You can explain in a loving manner why you no longer desire to involve yourself with a toxic family member─but tell that person you want to continue the relationship once there is a change in behavior. You must be firm once you have made up your mind, and follow through. Striking a balance on these matters is always a challenge. And as you have already found out, sometimes no matter what we say or do is of benefit because we cannot change people─especially the stubborn self-absorbed know-it-alls.

Those of us who are sincere in our faith and want to please the Lord, will, for the rest of our lives be dealing with those who are offensive not only to us, but to the Lord. We must change our attitude if we are to survive the injustices. When we know the truths about how some of our friends and family are, then we should not be surprised when time and time again “something” happens to disappoint us.

When spending time with family members who are judgmental of our commitment to serve the Lord, we should do our best not to get into discussions with them other than light, surface chatter. You have already tried to share the truth with them. The best thing to do is be cordial but keep some boundaries, some distance. Yes, I am saying in such cases keeping a light dialogue is best. In your prayers, ask God to take care of the details of the situation by petitioning Him to intervene.

The disappointment that comes with being in a family with those who have a warped sense of God’s truths is unnerving, but in Christ we are always victorious. And remember that ALL things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose (Romans 8:2 . And another thing to keep in mind; none of these people will hound you much longer. These are the last of the last days and in the near future none of the minutia of this life will matter. Even so come Lord Jesus!

If you do decide to cut-off relations with a family member you must also take into account the repercussions of such a move. The family member may be offended and attempt to “get back” slandering you and turning everyone in the family against you. This could be devastating to the entire family. It is something you should do as a last resort.

If you decide to do this you can ask trusted family members their advice as to what you should do. In this way others in your family may be more understanding -- if you decide to go ahead and release the problematic person from your life. The other family members will be more prepared for any attacks by the person who has been ousted from your life. “Prayerfully,” they will not turn on you. But you have no guarantee family members you love and are kind to you─will not at some point turn against you.

Prayer is always our greatest help in times of trouble. The Lord knows every last detail of each situation. As tough as it is to let go of the pain inflicted by those who are rude and self-righteous, it is to our emotional and spiritual benefit that we don’t get caught-up in their drama. It is always best to think of them as “lost.” Instead of getting angry, keep handing them over to the Lord in prayer asking Him to deal with them, with the entire situation. After all, we already know our attempts to remedy the issues in some cases is a huge waste of time and effort.

In the case of your husband, arrogant behavior is hard to ignore on a daily basis. You cannot divorce your husband because he is arrogant, narcissistic, unloving, etc. Please study the first six verses of 1 Peter 3 and pray for strength to endure being mistreated. Prayerfully, after a few months or possibly years, he will start to act like a true Christian. If he never does, it is your “thorn in the flesh” to endure (2 Corinthians 12:7 ); that is unless serious abuse such as adultery or ongoing caustic verbal or physical abuse, exist. People can get seriously ill physically, from the effects of ongoing chronic verbal or physical abuse. Always seek godly counsel before making any drastic changes.

If you married to an unsaved man, then your problems are great. A hard lesson is learned when we go against Scripture and involve ourselves in this way with the unsaved. From what you are saying it sounds like your husband may be a professing Christian in name only, and perhaps you thought, because of his professions of faith that you married a saved man. Or he is seriously backslidden. But only God knows for sure. If he does not understand how a Christian man should treat his wife, then I urge you to get into counseling at your church with your pastor or a trusted Christian professional. If he accepts only parts of the Bible, then his salvation is truly in question.

Many Christians have a “thorn in the flesh” that they endure their entire lives or for many years. All who desire to live holy lives will be persecuted (2 Timothy 3.12 ). We are also called to suffer for Christ’s sake (1 Peter 2:21). We do not know why some Christians suffer greatly, but we can speculate. It is possible you are suffering for the Lord so you can help others who are going through the same thing. It could also be used by the Lord to purge one of sin (1 Peter 4:1-3 ).

The important thing is to follow the advice found in the Bible, which means we must all study the Bible diligently, day-after-day (Acts 17:11 ) so we will not be ashamed (2 Timothy 2:15 ).

If you have friends who are arrogant and do not live holy lives you can see them less often. When they ask you why you do not spend as much time with them as you used to, you can tell them the truth. Explain in a loving manner that you think they are treating you in a way that is not honoring to the Lord and to you. Give specific examples. They may not realize what they are doing and may thank you for it. If they become offended you must decide if you wish to continue being their friend as usual─or downgrade your friendship to a casual friendship or none at all.

You should decide before you confront them with what you will say if they become offended. Sometimes it is best to cut-off a friend who mistreats you. Be warned, if your friend is offended he or she may try to viciously condemn you and try to turn other friends of yours against you. It could get very nasty. You may decide to ask other friends their advice as to what you should do. By doing this they will think you are sincere, which you are, and they prayerfully, will not turn against you when you cut off the relationship with the friend who is mistreating you.

The Lord gave us excellent advice concerning this very thing:

“Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces” (Matthew 7:6 ).

This means, after we have assessed a situation and there are chronic problems, we should not continue to be involved with a friend who spiritually abuses us. There comes a time when we are right in cutting-off a relationship. The pearls represent our unconditional love. We do not have to be a doormat for saved or unsaved people who mistreat and abuse us.

We must also take to heart what Paul told the Corinthian believers:

“Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?

Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, “I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. “Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE,” says the Lord.”

AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN; and I will welcome you. “And I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to Me,” Says the Lord Almighty” (2 Corinthians 6:14-18 ).

Even though you do not have a partnership with these so-called “saved” friends and unsaved friends we are commanded to not have fellowship with them. You are correct in seeking to cut-off relations with “saved” friends who do not live holy lives. Paul; commands us to do just that:

“I didnot at all meanwith the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler - not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? But those who are outside, God judges. REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES (1 Corinthians 5:10-13 ).

You noted in your letter, that Paul told Timothy to “turn away” from all who live unholy lives, whether they are saved or not (2 Timothy 3:1-5 ). According to Paul, we should not waste our time with so-called “brothers” or “sisters” who do not live holy lives and who spiritually abuse us. We should also not spend time with unsaved people who mistreat us (Matthew 7:6 ).

Whatever you decide to do, take your time and let the Lord work in your heart and in theirs also. Remember, “Pray always” (1 Thessalonians 5:17 ). In any given situation, even if you find you must remove yourself from a relationship, do your best not to harbor any animosity toward those who have offended you.

Love those who have hurt you from a distance and remember that we are to pray for our enemies (Matthew 5:44 ). And always forgive those who hurt you even when they don’t deserve it. After all, we are forgiven again and again by our heavenly Father because of His Son’s tremendous sacrifice.

I pray your situation will improve greatly and all to God’s glory.

In God’s love,


“But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust” (Matthew 5:44-45 ).

Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


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