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While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"  Matt. 24:29 (KJV)


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Re: THE WAYS OF WORSHIP AND THE BIRTH ORDER OF NOAH'S THREE SONS


Hi Patti....

Fascinating article! I especially enjoyed the parts about Noah and his sons. It's rare that I can learn new information because of all the years of study that I've done myself. This view you put forth is one I haven't heard before, and I will "file it" into the blank spaces of my mental information. Thanks for that!!

When you spoke of "Mystery, Babylon" (Rev.17 & 18), I remember an article I posted a while back. It comes pretty close to your assessment as well, so I decided to let you see what I had come up with as well...

It's nice finding someone who searches the deeper things as well...

I appreciate you!

Arlene





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Christians seem to want to place the "Harlot" anywhere but in there own lives!

It's time we all faced the truth:

[One piece of the article]

What did John see that could account for his amazement in seeing this Harlot? I believe that when John saw the Harlot, he saw something that had the form of the bride of Jesus, but which had been transformed to something far beyond his imagination, something far beyond the falling away of the body of Christ in his time and something far beyond what he saw in Jesus’ response to the seven assemblies in chapters 2 and 3.

I can almost hear the words of John as he gazed at this Harlot, “What is this, they are using the name of Jesus? They are scattering His kingdom everywhere and each going by different names. What has happened to God’s kingdom, the power and the Glory? What is this that speaks of Jesus and yet is so full of corruption? They are using the name of Jesus and they are not doing any of the things we told the assemblies to do. What has happened? This harlot is living a totally different life from the one Jesus modeled for us, yet they are using the name of Jesus and acting like they are a part of us.”


http://www.therealchurch.com/articles/new/the_birth_and_growth_of_the_harlot_church.html


Piece of the link article:


The structure of the church is actually preventing this from happening and that is why I say that the "structure" of the church is synonymous with the Harlot and is in fact the harlot. The Harlot’s use of the word church has given its right to exist and to replace Jesus’ right to rule. Today we find many, like myself, who know that something is wrong. When I first came to the Lord, I was always an ardent reader of scripture accepting what it said. What I saw as described in the word was a kingdom, a compacted people tightly built together ministering to one another, loving one another and supporting one another. What I saw in practice and in the church did not match what I saw in the Bible.

When I challenged pastors about these differences they quickly told me that times had changed…meaning even they knew we were different. I was a pastor for about 30 years and know something about what I am saying.

In my search I could not find in the scriptures buildings, pastors, pulpits, and names on buildings, divisions accepted as common, indifference, lethargy and infighting.

Many justified the church’s existence because it has a name that sounds alive…it has been with us so long, who would be suspicious that its "system" embodies the Harlot as the beast the world system? Certainly church is a name that is alive; because once we are saved we go to church. Not!

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Isn't it time we all do something about it? Most won't because they might offend their "Pastor", friends, or their family.

BUT GOD SAYS in Matthew 10:37..."He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."

Whom would YOU rather offend?

Arlene

Re: THE WAYS OF WORSHIP AND THE BIRTH ORDER OF NOAH'S THREE SONS

Arlene!

Thanks for reading that rather long post...but I really can see how the Lord uses such things for us to understand why He does what He does. I really enjoyed your response and the information about the Harlot....that is why John is so shocked, the Christian Church has become the Harlot!! And I am looking into how the mixing of Iron and Clay, the feet of the beast, could be the mixing of doctrines of demons with the Holy Word of God. The Iron being as the Rod of Iron that Jesus rules with, and the Clay the false Babylonian beliefs that are being mixed in with the Truth, and together they become the FALSE PROPHET. ...Just a recent thought.

I came out of the Church by a direct order from the Lord actually telling me to "COME OUT OF HER" IN 2011. Yet, we I moved to where I am now I did try and go with some new Christian friends to a Calvary Chapel....I went a couple times not really liking the way worship was set up....more entertainment then worship, but that is not why I stopped. In the congregation was a woman who is a Tarot Card reader, and gladly admits it....not only that, but the elders of the Church actually consult her on matters of the Church!!! That was it, never again!! If a tiny church in a tiny town, in the middle of nowhere has gone apostate, then there is little hope for any church.

We are the church, each and everyone one of us who believes in Jesus and has been born again. We are the temple of God, and when we gather in His name, there He is among us. It is not a building, or a place that makes any difference, He is inside us and we in Him.

Anyway...thanks for taking the time to read and to comment on my post. While I have you I really need to ask you a couple questions. I really respect your opinion on matters such as these and I need someone to help me see the Truth in regards to two things.

Do you believe in a Pre-trib Rapture of the Bride of Christ?? I used to, but with all the studying and watching videos from this site, I am beginning to believe that there is not, and that teaching it may be a very bad thing to do, and could be part of the Big Delusion.

I am at a crossroads, A MAJOR CROSSROAD, in that my belief in the pre-trib rapture is being shaken, hard, and I have no one to talk to about this in my life at present. All my Christian brothers and sisters at this time are on the web!! You are someone I trust to give me a complete and biblically supported answer, so that is why I am asking, because you are a LION for the Truth. And as we both know the is a BIG DIVIDE between the TRUTH and RELIGION!!

Also, do you believe that the Pope is the Antichrist, and has been throughout history, who has experienced the head wound and is back leading the world's religious agenda? So much new revelation coming at me, I need another seeker of the Truth to help me know if I am on the right path, or am I being deluded.

I know that is a tall order to ask of you!! Please take you time in answering, I know you must be busy with your own life. It would just really help me to know where to look and what to study in the Bible, other than the over used verses that usually support a pre-trib position.

Bless you and thank you!!
You are such a blessing to me!
Patti

Re: THE WAYS OF WORSHIP AND THE BIRTH ORDER OF NOAH'S THREE SONS

Hi Patti....

You are one of the very few who post things which I really read thoroughly! Maybe it's because you are digging deeply for the truth...as am I!

I was a dispensationalist for over 20 years, so I understand totally their way of thinking of the rapture (pre-trib). But since I came to understand what the real meaning of Daniel 9:27 was all about (the complete destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 AD), I know for sure that there is NO "70th week of Daniel" to be completed. If there is no "tribulation" of 7 years, then that completely rules out the pre-trib rapture theory.

I DO NOT believe, as dispensationalists do, that the Lord will turn "back to the Jews" once He is "finished with the church". God completed his work with the Jews back in 70 AD....and since Acts 28:28 the Gospel has gone out to the rest of the nations (Gentiles). If you look up the words "gentiles" and "nations" in Strong's Concordance, they are the SAME NUMBER WORD.

Do I think the Pope is "THE" Antichrist?? NO! The BIGGEST "antichrist" people in the world today are the Jews. The followers of Islam at least think Jesus was a "prophet" like unto Mohammed (as they say)....and they respect Jesus, but they do not believe in Jesus Christ as "God". The Talmud, which is the Book most Jews (Judaism) follow, has horrible things to say about Jesus Christ.

We are told in I Corinthians that God's plan for mankind follows a specific order....FIRST the "natural" (OT Israel and it's journey through the "wilderness" that is called a "church"....see Acts 7:38). And then comes the "spiritual" (NT Israel, or the "Israel of God"...see Gal.6:15-16...and the church's journey through the "wilderness" of this present world...see Rev.12:6. God's plan never was just for the "Jews"...and His "chosen people" have always been His "church"...OT and NT.

And, knowing the Lord as well as I do now, He doesn't go from "natural" then to "spiritual" and then back to "natural" again. Natural "circumcision" of the old covenant is no longer applicable now that we are "circumcised of the heart" (Romans 2:29).

What I believe is that the "antichrist" we have to all conquer is within all of us...it's our old "fleshy nature". John said that there were "many antichrists" in the world back then (I John 2:18), so you can imagine how many there are now!! I posted an article, not too long back, on conquering the "giants" within us...if I can find it, I'll post it again.

We are supposed to be saved by "faith"...the things we can't "see" yet hope for. Some Christians want to be able to be seen as "above" others in discovering "new truths", and they seek the gratification of a "pat on the back" from others. And all too frequently, that's the PRIDE within us that doesn't let us see that the enemy is mainly WITHIN each one of us....and that's the real danger. These "fleshy" Christians will fight tooth and nail for whatever they deem to be "right"....or else they will be discredited and lose the perceived "honor" others have given them.

There are very few who think as I do. Maybe they haven't had my life's experiences to see the things I have...and the things people do to other people. God gave me the position to see things most people don't within the profession I worked for almost 40 years. I've seen the "other side" of those who call themselves "Christians"....and "Pastors". And the insides aren't very pretty to discover when they think people aren't looking.

Christians are "saved by grace through faith", but we are supposed to "work out our own salvation in fear and trembling" (Phil.2:12). And it's a "fearful" think to realize that the worst enemy we may have is within each of us. Justification is free....but sanctification takes a lot of hard work (to mature as a Christian). It takes a lifetime.

As for "religion"....there is little to no truth in ANY "religion", as they are ALL the "doctrines of men"...and God calls then "doctrines of devils"...I Tim.4:1. The ONLY truth is in your Bible when studied with the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit alone. And then discussing these things with those whom you trust to being "faithful" Christians.

I'm really enjoying your posts....keep them coming!

Arlene