Rapture Bible Prophecy Forum

(Rapture is a Vatican/Jesuit Lie )
The "Resurrection" has been erroneously labeled The "Rapture". 
THERE IS NO RAPTURE

WHY THE TITLE RAPTURE BIBLE PROPHECY FORUM?
WE STARTED OUT BELIEVING IN A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE
BUT FOUND OVER TIME AROUND 2006 THAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT SHARE A 
BIBLE VERSE WHATSOEVER INDICATING A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE

BIBLE VERSES EVIDENCE:

While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"  Matt. 24:29 (KJV)


WE DAILY STUDY TO SHEW OURSELVES APPROVED 
WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO SAY WE ARE LEARNING DAILY AND 
ARE ABLE TO ADMIT WE MAKE MISTAKES BUT STUDY TO 
LEARN EVERY DAY.

LET YHVH/YAHUSHA BE TRUE 
AND EVERY MAN A LIAR.

To Join and post on this site e-mail for a password
​​​​​​​stevensandiego@ymail.com

WEBSITE: HTTP://WWW.RAPTUREBIBLEPROPHECYFORUM.COM

FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rapture-Bible-Prophecy-Forum/362856490414697

Hebrew 5782-5788   Gregorian 2022-2028

THIS SITE IS ABOUT Yahusha/JESUS
 
We are followers of Yahusha/JESUS Only​​​​​​​
Yahusha/
JESUS IS GOD/YHVH
Yahusha/
JESUS is YHVH/GOD/YHWH-Yahusha/Son:
​​​​​​​Yahusha/
JESUS is The WORD

Yahusha is I Am That I Am  (Exodus 3:14)

Yahusha is YHWH  come in the flesh, He put aside His Diety to become a human, born of  a Virgin.

Yahusha is the Word, As The Most High, He spoke all things seen and unseen into existence

When YHWH created Light, He was revealed to the angels. 

John 14:26
"the breath of life"

But the Comforter, which is "the breath of life", whom the Father will send shall teach you all things.

God is not His  Name but a term.  The Holy Spirit is not a person but the very Breath of the Father.

There is no Trinity.  The Father, YHVH  and Yahusha are One  (John 10:30)

THE BOOK OF ENOCH

NOW IS THE TIME!

 FOR A REMOTE GENERATION THE LAST GENERATION FOR THE ELECT!

Book of Enoch: http://tinyurl.com/BkOfEnoch

The book of Second Peter and Jude Authenticate the book of Enoch and Vice Versa

Yahusha/JESUS QUOTED FROM THE SEPTUAGINT:

THE APOSTLES QUOTED FROM THE SEPTUAGINT

JEWS WERE CONVERTING TO CHRISTIANITY

FREE DOWNLOADS

All Of The Apocryphal Books Of

The King James 1611 Version

http://www.scriptural-truth.com/apocrypha_books.html 

Pray for one another, as we watch for the Lord's  return!


Bible Prophecy Forum Postings
Start a New Topic 
Author
Comment
The Church? IRRELAVENT!

For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes
Link: http://www.raptureready.com/soap/taylor94.html
Note: Before commenting on any posts please make sure you either watch or read each post in it’s entirety. Before, making a comment, if you don’t have the time to watch or read fully please restrain from commenting. When you do this it will help to reduce confusion.

Thank you for visiting Rapture Bible Prophecy Forum!

Please add us to your favorites!
http://www.rapturebibleprophecyforum.com
Our Facebook page is :
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rapture-Bible-Prophecy-Forum/362856490414697
Please LIKE our Facebook page! Facebook is growing daily!




The Church? IRRELAVENT!

By Mike Taylor

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



“Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? It is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid” (Matthew 5:13-14).

In recent polls, it is reported that the modern church comprised over 75% of the population who call themselves Christians. Of those 75% the poll shows that 43% of those people attend a church somewhere, every weekend. But if you look at the societal conditions of the current century, they are the most impotent, insignificant, and irrelevant group of people to influence the direction of this society in all our history.

Think about it. We are talking of upwards of 159 million people who attend church in this country. That is a significant bloc of people that would make the ACLU or the AFL-CIO unions envious of their numbers and would give them untold power to control the social structure of this country. Each of these aforementioned groups is a minority of individual members that comprise only about 11% for all unions and about half-million members of the ACLU. Then why is the American society and our country going to the proverbial “hell in a hand basket” when we have a lop-side majority?

There is no mistaking that prior, during and after the American Revolution that the church of God fearing men and women had a vast amount of influence over the direction of this country. But in the last half of the 20th Century (since WW II) that influence grew silent. How can we see it any other way when God was kicked out of our schools, and we stood silent? What did we do when abortion laws of Roe v Wade was enacted and passed into law during the 1970s?

Did men and women, pastors and clergymen stand up and voice their opposition? Do we stand unified in our opposition to homosexual unions of marriage and gay lobby agenda that God calls an abomination or have we stood silent? Do we stand for the backbone of our country, the family of one man, one woman united to produce godly children? You know the answer to those questions, as we would not be in the societal mess we are in today if they were not true in the negative.

The modern churches have been whipped into submission and have become irrelevant.Now the church continues to stand silent, deaf and mute when the police state threatens to turn this country into a godless socialist state. When compared to our beginnings of a republic founded on the Ten Commandments and godly principles what influence does the church have today? Again zip, nada, zilch, nothing is all that can be stated with any truth to it.

We had resurgence, in the 1980s for a short period of time where the religious right, the moral majority stood up, or whatever you want to call it, were in the political arena, but where are they today? I would tell you there are comatose, beyond comatose, as they are clinically dead. Further our churches today are spiritually dead. Our Christian universities are dead. Our Sunday schools to teach our children are dead. Denominations of every stripe are dead.

They have become entertainment centers, social clubs, and employ pastors that wish not to offend. They build bigger and better churches, larger gymnasiums, coffee shops and shopping malls so in their minds they can draw the masses for a “feel good time” while giving messages of self improvement, purpose driven lives, entertainment and ignore hell fire and brimstone messages of judgment, repentance and salvation through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Oh, no, that would offend.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (2 Timothy 4:3-4).



America’s pastors, these wolves in sheep’s clothing, have fleeced the flock, and they have become irrelevant to address the societal concerns of our days. In America, we are talking about a nation in which citizens (including Christians) are able to lobby, redress government, protest, rally, organize opposition, speak, vote, form PACs, march, petition, etc. Christians are as free to influence their societies and governments as are any other group of people in the United States. It is not like we have no voice, but it’s like we have become complacent, deaf, dumb and mute.

And who is to blame? I tell you, it’s the pastors of these churches who teach a “feel good gospel.” Paul warned that if they preach anything but the gospel of Christ that was once delivered to the saints of the church of Galatia (Galatians 1:8-9), “Let them be accursed.” Do they speak the truth? Do they stand for righteousness? Do they stand in the gap when government enacts laws contrary to the Word of God? I tell you they do not. They have been whipped into silence by the government that gives them tax breaks or they wish to not offend their congregation, so they speak soft words that do not offend anyone about their sinful condition, or their need to stand for righteousness in a nation that is going to the dogs.

I have warned of teachers of the “Word of Faith,” the “name and claim it” crowd who preach a prosperity gospel who look for a kingdom on earth that will get better and better, richer and richer, but they are only a subset of the cancer that grows in our modern church pulpits that must bear the brunt of the blame for the failure to influence society in Jesus’ Name. The symptoms are wide and they are perverse.

ARE WE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING?

In other lands, the “true church” is growing underground. They have restrictions over influencing society or politics by a government that is persecuting them in Communist China, or Russia and they prevent any uprising or revolution by eliminated their ability to mount a revolt by removing the ability to bear arms. They have removed all individual right to ownership of guns. Does this sound familiar?

Christians in persecuted lands are not enamored with entertainment, recreation, and irrelevant Bible exposition. You don’t have to bring in some big name rock band to entice them to fellowship. You don’t have to give their teenagers mentioned big gymnasiums for activities. You don’t have to give those young adults coffee shops and espresso machines. You don’t have to shy away from criticisms of tyrannical government. And you certainly are not going to score any points with your fallacious “obey-the-government-no-matter-what” interpretation of Romans 13.

Unfortunately, sometimes the church must be oppressed to return to the teachings of the Bible, much like these citizens of Communist countries have been oppressed and persecuted, so I pray for the USA and its citizens to wake-up, as the Nazi like atmosphere could come to this land, as it did in Germany.

LET US RETURN BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE

We must return to the mindset of the 19th Century when Charles Finney said these words:

Christians must vote for honest men and take consistent ground in politics .God cannot sustain this free and blessed country, which we love and pray for, unless the church will take right ground. Politics are a part of a religion in such a country as this, and Christians (and citizens) must do their duty to the country as a part of their duty to God. It seems sometimesas if the foundations of the nation are becoming rotten, and Christians seem to act as if the think God does not see what they do in politics.

Finney also said:

If there is a decay of conscience, the pulpit is responsible for it. If the public presslacks moral discernment, the pulpit is responsible for it. If the church is degenerate and worldly, the pulpit is responsible for it. If the world loses its interest in Christianity, the pulpit is responsible for it. If Satan rules in our halls of legislation, the pulpit is responsible for it. If our politics become so corrupt that the very foundations of our government are ready to fall away, the pulpit is responsible for it.

Let me ask you something. If you preach and teach the stories of the Bible concerning Daniel and the lions den, or the three Hebrew children and the fiery furnace, or say, the life and example of Jesus Christ and not apply it to your everyday life around you, what good is it? They just become stories that have no effect on your life, or your society at large.

What good does it do to preach expository messages on the Bible if one does not make those messages relevant to the times and circumstances in which we live? Yet, “ear tickling” entertainment, and irrelevant exposition seem to be what the modern church in America excels in. The result is: Ineffective, impotent, weak, unprepared, and sheepish Christians. That’s what we have become: Irrelevant.

If you look around at your church members, you see businessman who would steal from their grandmothers. There is no difference in them from those in the secular world. Deacons and church officers caught in lies and cowardly deeds that are the same in the unbelieving world, so- called Christians chasing the neighbor’s wife or lusting after the latest luxury. How can you expect the world to change when the so-called “church” does the same?

What good has it done with all the youth groups, prophecy forums, and expositions on eschatology that argue its nuances to ad nauseum, while we play, party, prance, dance, debate philosophy and pontificate while a fire has been burning down the foundations of this country? And we lift not a finger to fetch a bail of water to put the fire out.

ARE WE IN THE RUN UP TO THE TRIBULATION?

There is coming a time and it may have already started, when “the rain will fall on the just and the unjust” (Matthew 5:45). When the ship of state crashes on the rocks of tyranny, Christian and non-Christian will be affected equally. When our economy crashes and goes down in flames because of society that has grown evil and the church stays silent, then Christian and non-Christian will be equally affected.

Truly did the Lord Jesus say, “Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? It is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men” (Matthew 5:13).

In ancient times and even during the beginnings of this country, salt was used to preserve, to prevent spoilage, and to retard rot and ruin. But when Christians loose their saltiness they open themselves to oppression and tyranny. They are good for nothing, except to “be trodden under the foot of men.” Can you say, “Seig Heil” of Hitler’s Germany?

Unfortunately, pastors of this nation have become “good for nothing” by a large majority as the pastors are suppose to protect the saltiness of the saints to preserve the nation. We have all but become rotten in our core beliefs of this nation and I tell you, judgment is coming. We have been warned for many years now, as the prophets of old to the likes of Jeremiah, Isaiah, and Ezekiel warned Israel, we have BEEN WARNED.

There is an event that all of us long for, and I believe it is coming soon. An event when the true believing church will be removed from this earth. Then those who have filled the walls of big modern churches will look around and see people missing. They will hear news flashes from all over the world that a cataclysmic event has happened. What I pray for is that an army of God before that day happens will arise and speak God’s truth. Much like Gideon, God whittled down his army of 30 thousand down to 300 of God fearing men who took the fight to the enemy and defeated them.

That’s what I pray for that, God will use whatever means to bring godly men to the forefront to speak to the truth of our times, to boldly go where others fear to tread. An army of black robed regiment of pastors who fear no one but: God. I wish they would be like the 144,000 from the 12 tribes of Israel who will finally speak the truth without fear. Too late for America is what I expect, but I can pray God’s mercy to reach even some of those asleep at the present in this country.

The great Christian patriot and “Father of the American Revolution,” Sam Adams said:

“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in the people’s minds.”

That is what we need. We need brush fires, before this nation is destroyed. Will you who read this and take that charge? Pastor, will you take the mantle and wear that black robe and become part of the regiment to spread the truth of God’s Word? Have you been tickling the ears of your congregation? If you have, take an oath from this day forward that you will speak only God’s truth no matter: who it may offend.

Are you Christian in heart, but not in deeds? Take a pledge that you will NOT continue in your La-La land of ear itching, feel good messages, but will find a church, a pastor, a Bible believing group of like-minded Christians in a church or in a living room, “So help you God.” Will you vote in any remaining elections for only God-fearing men, and throw the other bums out? If not, I speak to you both, may God have mercy on you, and this country. You’re going to need it.

This is Pastor Mike Taylor, praying God builds a fire in your soul.




++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Disclaimer: Rapture Bible Prophecy Forum, ( http://www.rapturebibleprophecyforum.com ) does not necessarily endorse or agree with every opinion expressed in every article posted on this site. We do however, encourage a healthy and friendly debate on the issues of our day. Whether you agree or disagree, we encourage you to post your feedback by using the reply button.

If you are new to this site and would like to post articles, opinions, youtube videos that are appropriate for this site just e mail me at

stevensandiego@ymail.com
I will send you a PASSWORD

Ybic
Steven



Re: The Church? IRRELAVENT!

Hi Steven....

This is the BEST posting I've read for a while now!

But, in my own unique perspective, I would enjoy adding my own "two cents", if you will....

There is a HUGE PROBLEM among people who call themselves "Christian" today. And when a problem is perceived, the solution is to remove the CAUSE of the problem...and not to cover it up so that it will be unseen or disguised.

People sit in the "pews" of the church building of their choice (CONTRARY to what the Bible actually says) and hear all kinds of un-biblical things oozing from the Pastor's ill-educated mouth. (They learn from "men" in theological schools who probably have less Bible knowledge than a 10-year-old who actually READS the Bible). They sit beside some unbeliever (who shouldn't be there in the first place...II Cor.6:14), and who couldn't care less about ANYTHING that is being said.

Unbelievers are there to make social contacts, business contacts, or find some partner with whom to share hugs and kisses (for a start) next Saturday night. And, an added bonus is that he/she (the unbeliever...or the believer) can keep up appearances and look "good" to others because they "go to church"....

THERE IS NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT SAYS "GO TO CHURCH". We are supposed to not neglect "assembling ourselves together" (Hebrews 10:25) in groups (of believers ONLY) whenever it is necessary for discussion, helping each other, or sharing Bible knowledge (with comparisons and discussion of truths that each one has discovered by READING THE BIBLE EVERY DAY).

Church buildings, Pastors, pews, altars, rites, rituals, perceived doctrines, and not knowing what Bible truth is, have DESTROYED CHRISTIANITY. If a Christian goes to ANY church every Sunday, they are DEFYING GOD and flaunting that it's alright to be disobedient....as long as you, yourself can look good to others and wear nice clothes once a week.

If you give "tithes" to maintain that church, YOU ARE IN DISOBEDIENCE TO THE GRACE OF GOD. Paying "tithes" is following Old Testament laws of sacrifice. You are telling God that what Jesus did on the Cross of Calvary was insufficient. Jesus said, "It is finished". Daniel 9:27 and Galatians 3:17 tells us that our Saviour completed ANY sacrifice needed to complete God's plan for salvation of the world...John 3:16.

GOD DOES NOT NEED, NOR DOES HE WANT ANY OF THE MONEY YOU EARN BY WORKING FOR A LIVING. What would God need money for??

WE CAN DO NOTHING ELSE...only READ AND STUDY THE BIBLE, and have FAITH in what God has already done.

But I know how prideful human nature is. Christians can read posts like yours, and they can understand them....BUT....they will not make ANY changes in their life to correct this wrongdoing. They will continue to "go to church" (Harlot of Rev.17 & 18), and pay their "tithe", and do lots of the "busy things" professing Christians do on "Sunday", because they don't want to have to explain to anyone that they've been IN ERROR for so many years....and why. They will not give up that pride.

God has clearly said, "Come out of her, my people"...Rev. 18:4...but they would rather care about what other people think of them.


Thank you so much for helping to put forth the truth....


And, also, thank you for posting, by others, (probably taught by "Pastors") so many un-biblical teachings. This give me so much ammunition to consider when trying to put forth what the Bible REALLY says....

I really appreciate you. You are truly doing "God's work "....

Arlene