Hi Bob...

This posting of yours in answer to the ongoing debate (which I have not read as an "argument"....just a discussion amongst believers who love our Lord) is absolutely truthful, beautiful, and wonderful!

Oh how I wish that I saw more like this one! THANK YOU!!

Much of the debate would be settled if people would "throw out" that false doctrine of an ONCOMING "70th week of Daniel". All debates concerning this "week", to me, are moot. IF something is not going to happen, then why debate when, where, or how it will come to pass?? This false doctrine comes from misinterpretation of Daniel 9:27. The "he" is Jesus Christ. If one interprets the "he" as the "Antichrist"....it puts all that is said in Daniel 9:27 into the future. AND THAT CONCLUDES WITH WRONG DOCTRINE.

Another gross error is when Christians put the word "THE" in front of the word "tribulation" when it isn't there in that particular verse in the Bible. Take out the "THE" where it doesn't belong, and it COMPLETELY changes the meaning.

Also, the Book of Revelation has to be seen with "spiritual eyes" and with "spiritual ears"...see "he that hath an ear, let him hear what the SPIRIT saith unto the churches (assemblies of PEOPLE...not buildings with people in them)...said 7 (seven)times in Rev. 2& 3. In the first days of the NT church (body of Christ), no buildings for worship and discussion amongst Christians existed. And they shouldn't today, either.

Revelation 1:1 tells us that this book is SIGNIFIED....it is told in symbols and signs. And it has to be correctly interpreted how God TOLD US to interpret it.

The Book of Revelation IS NOT SEQUENTIAL, or "consecutive". Revelation chapter 6 goes through the whole of events.` And after that chapter, another chapter explains different things. It's almost like a puzzle whose pieces interchange. Once I spent almost a week trying to put all the events in order...what comes first, and then everything (in order) to what comes last. I FAILED MISERABLY! Do all the trumpets and vials come out of the last seal? Probably...maybe...I don't know! They are NOT sequential....and only, seemingly, increase in intensity. And no human figuring, changing, rearranging, or ANYTHING put it into something that made perfect sense. And I've never heard this has been done by anyone else....and I READ A LOT!!

As you have said, we will see when God reveals it to us....and not before.

All we have to do is have faith that those events will happen...but not necessary in a literal manner that we can "see" with natural eyesight.

It is said BEST in I Corinthians 13:12.."For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know IN PART; but THEN (when it is revealed to us) shall I know even as also I am known."

God said it, and I believe it! You, essentially, said the same thing, and that gives joy to my heart.

Again, if we watch in all the postings for the word "THE" next to the word "tribulation" or "great tribulation"....we might check to see if this word is actually in that particular verse. If it isn't, then we can determine that what is being said is NOT TRUE.

And also, as I have said many times, I am so grateful to Steven for the work that he is doing. By allowing ALL OF US to present our views, we will ALL come to the knowledge of the TRUTH!

I study from the KJV...other Bibles do not say the same thing in most cases. I trust the KJV the most because I trust nothing from Wescott and Hort....most of the other "new versions". But, to each his own.

Arlene

GOOD STUFF, STEVEN!! Keep on "keeping on"!! I, for one, think you are super terrific!

Arlene