Putting one's own interpretation of what the Bible ACTUALLY tells us, makes a pretty messy doctrine....and places the Jews as the ONLY people God is concerned with throughout history.

I'll be simple on this one......



You said:

"So what is the great tribulation all about ? It has everything to do with unrepentant Israel for their rejection and crucifixion of Jesus."



[I am "assuming (by all your other posts as well) that when you say "Israel", you MEAN the "JEWS"....but later on that one]

And I say what the Bible says in John 3:16.."For God so loved the WORLD, that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

And continuing in verse 17, God says..."For God sent NOT His Son into the world TO CONDEMN THE WORLD; but that THE WORLD through Him might be saved."

I DO NOT SEE THE WORD "JEW" OR THE WORD "ISRAEL" ANYWHERE IN THOSE VERSES!! So, what we DON'T SEE in a verse, shouldn't be put in just because we THINK it ought to be there.

And, when it all comes to completion (God's plan from the foundation of the world)Ephesians 1:4........and the TRUTH IS that "EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD". Philippians 2:11

WHAT THIS DOES NOT SAY IS THAT EVERY "JEWISH" KNEE SHALL BOW, ETC.

You also grossly MISREPRESENT who "Israel" really is, as well. You THINK it means the "Jews". The "Israel of God" is DEFINED in Galatians 6:15-16 BY GOD, HIMSELF. Yet, people still ARGUE that "Israel" is the JEW! Know what? You are not arguing with ME....you are telling God that He is a LIAR....and how do you think He feels about that?



You also said:

The order of sequence of end-time events are as follows: the shortened great tribulation of Israel begins and ends -------Satan is cast down at the time of the rapture of the Church at mid-week---------the "hour of temptation" we are not lead into is Satan's reign on earth during the 42 month 1,260 day last-half of the 70th Week of Daniel----------the Second Coming of the Lord ends the 70th Week of Daniel".



Please give me SCRIPTURE AND VERSE as to WHERE this doctrine is in the Bible. I've been studying the Bible for "decades"....and I have NEVER seen this in any one scripture....NOR have I seen it in ANY COMBINATION of scriptures. Maybe you can do as I have done in most of my postings. When I put my belief of interpretation of anything, I GIVE THE SCRIPTURE VERSE FROM WHICH IT CAME. And NOT just a bunch of unrelated scriptures that only confuse the issue as some are prone to do. (You know who you are)

Please do the same. If you cannot do this, then God didn't say it....and you are trying to teach others FALSE DOCTRINE.

And again, I say this in Christian love...and the highest respect for GOD'S WORDS....AND THE TRUTH!

BTW....I have NOT found ANY WORDS, yet, in the Bible that contain the phrase "THE GREAT TRIBULATION"...think about it! Adding the word "THE" makes a great deal of difference to the meaning.

Also, method of prayer that our Lord taught says NOTHING about "great tribulation"....it says, "lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil." And that, to me, is talking about daily happenings to ALL OF US each day of our lives....


Arlene