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WE STARTED OUT BELIEVING IN A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE
BUT FOUND OVER TIME AROUND 2006 THAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT SHARE A 
BIBLE VERSE WHATSOEVER INDICATING A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE

BIBLE VERSES EVIDENCE:

While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"  Matt. 24:29 (KJV)


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FD: Donna Cothran (8 July 2013): "pre wrath or pre-trib~" ----special notation Holler is not Holli

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Donna Cothran (8 July 2013)
"pre wrath or pre-trib~"



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re: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2013/charlesh75.htm

NOTE THE CORRECT NAME REFERRED TO BY DONNA IS SUPPOSE TO BE CHARLES HOLLER not Hollis-

Hope this clears up some of the confusion regarding whom Donna is writing to.





Hi Hollis ~

re: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2013/charlesh75.htm



if we're in the first half of the '7 year tribulation which is also 1,260 days, during which two powerful witnesses from the Lord will vex the world, was wondering

where are they preaching these days? They will have to die before we head into the 2nd half . .


The AC controls Jerusalem and the temple during the second half of the ‘seven’years, , right? how can it be possible for the 2 witnesses to be preaching in the streets during the 2nd half?

.for when the ac becomes 'satanized' during the last half of the trib, the 2 witnesses are not here having been resurrected before that time, of which the world has yet to see.






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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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Re: FD: Donna Cothran (8 July 2013): "pre wrath or pre-trib~" ----special notation Holler is not H

Lots of wrong interpretation here by Donna Colthran, I see! There would be no argument about which half of the tribulation and who was witnessing where... if the proper interpretation of Daniel 9:27 had been accomplished.

Also, how are TWO PEOPLE gong to travel all around the world within a 3-1/2 year period...even if scripture told us there will be TWO PEOPLE. And it does not!

The "two witnesses" are the WORD OF GOD and THE HOLY SPIRIT. And this should be well taken care of by the 144,000 who are "sealed".

The DEFINITION of the "two witnesses" is in Zechariah chapter 4...."Olive trees" and "candlesticks" are NOT people, no matter what names people give them. And even if some define them as "people", wouldn't TWO (olive trees) and TWO (candlesticks) in Revelation 11:4 make FOUR PEOPLE??

Yet, God says His "two witnesses"...so the explanation MUST BE something other than people, as indicated by Zechariah chapter 4. And they are defined as "THE WORD OF THE LORD" AND "THE HOLY SPIRIT" ("not by might....but BY MY SPIRIT). Zech.4:5 asks a question..."What are these things (the olive trees and candlestick). Then God answers in verse 6..."the word of the Lord" and "by my spirit".

I don't know how in the world some Christians get Elijah and Moses (or is it Enoch) out of this one!

And, as for debating what part of the "seven years" who will do what is rather "moot" because THERE WILL BE NO SEVEN-YEAR TRIBULATION, according to the Bible. Nowhere in the Book of Revelation is a period of seven years mentioned...or even hinted at.

This time period is derived from IMPROPER interpretation of Daniel 9:27. Some people can't determine a pronoun ("he")from a prepositional phrase ("people" of the prince). The "he" cannot refer back to "prince" because it is the subject of the prepositional phrase. So, the "he" has to refer to the PREVIOUS singular pronoun....and that is the MESSIAH. It really pays to understand the English language, as it is written because it can avoid making mistakes such as this.

Steve Wohlberg has wonderfully explained this mistake made by so many:


http://forbiddenfruitjam.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/7-years-of-tribulation/

Piece of the article:


The entire prophecy of Daniel 9:24-27 covers a period of “seventy weeks,” or 490 years. Logic requires that “seventy weeks” refers to one consecutive block of time, in other words, to seventy straight sequential weeks. There is no example in Scripture (or anywhere else!) of a stated time period starting, stopping, and then starting again. All biblical references to time are consecutive: 40 days and 40 nights (see Genesis 7:4), 400 years in Egypt (see Genesis 15:13), 70 years of captivity (see Daniel 9:2), etc. In Daniel’s prophecy, the “seventy weeks” were to begin during the reign of Persia and continue to the time of the Messiah.

Logic also requires that the 70th week follow immediately after the 69th week. If it doesn't, then it cannot properly be called the 70th week!

It is illogical to insert a 2,000-year gap between the 69th and 70th week. No hint of a gap is found in the prophecy itself.

There is no gap between the first seven weeks and the following sixty-two weeks, so why insert one between the 69th and 70th week?

Note: If you told your child to be in bed in 70 minutes, you obviously would mean 70 consecutive minutes. What if five hours later your fully awake son said, “But dad, I know 69 minutes have passed, but the 70th minute hasn’t started yet!”? After receiving an appropriate punishment, he would be swiftly sent to bed.

Daniel 9:27 says nothing about a seven-year period of “tribulation,” a “rebuilt” Jewish temple, or any “antichrist.

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The link explains it more fully...IF you open it (and some people argue without researching the material first...and that is "ignorance").

I say this all in Christian love...which is love for the truth as well!

Arlene