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ONE SCRIPTURE TELLS US THAT THE RAPTURE HAPPENS AT THE SAME TIME SATAN IS CAST DOWN.....




Revelation 12:10
"Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now SALVATION, and strength, and THE KINGDOM of our God, and THE POWER of His Christ HAVE COME, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down."


The rapture is described as NOW salvation, strength, the kingdom of our God, and the power of Jesus Christ HAVE COME. If that isn't the rapture; I don't know what is. To anyone who cannot see that I say, "You can't fix stupid !" Satan is cast out of heaven on the same day that the rapture happens on the Day of Christ.




According to Your Word, come Lord Jesus !


Bruce Warner, Scripturalist

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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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I agree that you "can't fix Stupid" unless "Stupid" WANTS TO smarten up!!

Your quote:

The rapture is described as NOW salvation, strength, the kingdom of our God, and the power of Jesus Christ HAVE COME. If that isn't the rapture; I don't know what is. To anyone who cannot see that I say, "You can't fix stupid !" Satan is cast out of heaven on the same day that the rapture happens on the Day of Christ.


PLEASE POINT OUT SCRIPTURE AND VERSE ON THAT ONE!! PLEASE?

Then I must be "Stupid" according to your definition and standards.

What I see, which is ACTUALLY IN the Bible:

Revelation 12:9.."And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan....etc."

(and around the same time as this happens)

Revelation 12:5..."And she brought forth a MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: (see Rev.2:27...this is PART of the church) and her (the "woman's") child (those taken OUT OF the woman) was caught up unto God and to His throne."

I see NOTHING about "NOW salvation" being represented by ANYTHING in those verses......and they show SOMEONE COMING DOWN while SOMEONE IS GOING UP. The "woman" is the church, but the "MAN CHILD" comes OUT OF the church.

[The "type and shadow" of this is the "bride" of Adam (Eve) came OUT OF his BODY (his rib).....but she (the "bride", Eve) was NOT HIS WHOLE BODY. So the "BRIDE OF CHRIST" (who is the "man child") will come OUT OF THE WOMAN (the body of Christ...the church).

Jesus Christ is the "last man" Adam in I Corinthians 15:45....this is to tell us that His "bride" will happen in the SAME WAY that the "first man Adam" had his "bride" (Eve) come....OUT OF HIS BODY!!

The "bride of Christ" and the "man child" are the SAME THING!! They are the "sons of God". EVERY Christian receives the "power" to BECOME one of the "sons of God" (John 1:12), but not every Christian uses that power to MATURE as a Christian. Most remain "babes" in Christ and learn very little by sitting in a pew every week instead of studying their bibles....read II Timothy 2:15. A Christian who is "worthy" has shown himself "approved unto God" by "rightly dividing the word of truth." And the "manifestation of the sons of God" will show who did their "homework".

The Bible shows that this series of events are at the time of the "sealing" of the 144,000...who turn up to be the "two witnesses". It is the "manifestation of the sons of God" spoken of in Romans 8:19...THE EVENT for which everyone has been waiting.

Romans 8:19..."For the earnest expectation of the creature WAITETH FOR THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS OF GOD (the "man child" who is taken OUT OF the "woman")."

The NOW salvation has nothing do do with the "rapture of the church"...because the "rapture of the church" will be 1260 days LATER, and that event is seen in Revelation 11:12..."And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, 'Come up hither.' And they ascended up to heaven IN A CLOUD; and their ENEMIES (those who refused to believe AFTER the 1260 days) beheld them."

THERE ARE NO "CLOUDS" IN REVELATION 12!! The "rapture" is in the CLOUDS....see I Thess.4:17...Then we which are alive and remain (of the saved, along with the "witnesses" of Rev.11) shall be caught up together with them IN THE CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

The "rapture" of the Church is at the END of the 1260 days and JUST BEFORE God's wrath comes upon the unbelieving world. The "rapture" of the "man child" is the MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS OF GOD (they are taken up just PRIOR to the 1260 days). They are TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS happening 1260 days apart. The "man child" consists of those who are "worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass..."Luke 21:36.

Be careful whom you call "Stupid" or you might end up just looking in the mirror.

Arlene

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THE SCRIPTURE REQUESTED BY ARLENE IS : Revelation 12:10


YBIC, Bruce Warner, Scripturalist



Added for ease of dialogue by Steven

Rev 12:10

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
KJV

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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Steven