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THE STEADY, but sure... APOSTASY OF CHRISTIANITY


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A VERY BRIEF HISTORY OF JEWS AND CHRISTIANS:


Adam was the first natural man. He was not a Jew.

Abraham was chosen by God to start the seed line of the Messiah, Jesus Christ (through Isaac). He was not a Jew.

Moses was given the Laws of God by God, Himself. Moses was not a Jew.

Jacob was the first man in the bible to be called "Israel" because he changed from being a "supplanter" and a "deceiver" to one who believed God and followed Him. ALL believers in God (Jesus Christ) are called "Israel" because we have also had a change of heart. Jacob was not a Jew.

The High Priest was elected by God (Aaron) to offer the sacrifices for sin for the people. He was the ONLY one who could enter the Holy of Holies in the Tabernacle. He was a foreshadow of our Lord Jesus Christ as our High Priest in the heavenlies. He was not a Jew.

A sign of the Old Covenant that was given to Abraham was circumcision. All the males in Abraham's family, and ANYONE who joined this company of Israelites (believers) also took on the sign of circumcision as showing they were believers in Jehovah (YWHW/Jesus). Coming out of Egypt, these were a "mixed multitude" (Numbers 11:4). They were called "Israel". None of them were Jews....unless they decided to become one by faith in Judaism.

God severely criticized the Jews in Jeremiah chapter 44. He identified Himself as "the Lord God of hosts (of heaven)", the God of Israel (believers in Him). The Jews worshiped other "gods" and did things that enraged God because of it. That's what this chapter is about.

Where did the Jews come from?

Because the Law of God from Moses had become the law of the land, it became the priests' responsibility to TEACH the Law to the people. That required MEETINGS which they had every Sabbath in all the villages and towns in Judea. It was these Sabbath services that finally merged into regular synagogue services. This was the decision of men and not God's directive.

In time, all the areas within Judea began to build their OWN synagogues. In some of the larger areas, a body of priests would take up residence and take charge over the synagogue.

The recognition of this religious disobedience among the Jews during the Egyptian domination is the actual KEY that explains the reason why the Judaism of Jesus Christ's day arose. Had this religious anarchy not occurred, there would have been no Judaism for Jesus to contend with. If conditions remained as they did for a period when the Laws of God, alone, were followed, then Jesus would have come to a people who were fully obeying the Laws of God given to Moses. And if they had studied the scriptures for themselves, they would have recognized who Jesus was. But, instead we find a people who were practicing Judaism - the religion of the Jews - not the Laws of God given to Moses for the people.

History proves that Judaism evolved out of, and was directly guided by, the inherited principles of PAGAN activities and ceremonies added to the Synagogue meetings as "traditions of men" by the priests. The very foundation of Judaism and it's underlying pagan principles, combined with the traditions of the priests inserted into its activities, caused religious chaos.

AND WE ARE DOING THE SAME THING TODAY.

We are supposed to be ONE BODY composed of believers in Jesus Christ; each contributing what truths the Holy Spirit of God has led them to....each one is part of this whole body....read I Corinthians chapter 12.

BUT...along the way, those who stood behind the pulpits (eg. priests, ministers, pastors, etc) taught only the doctrine(s) they, alone, had learned and believed. And those who listened to these leaders instead of "searching the scriptures" for themselves...Acts 17:11...only "parroted" the same doctrines they had heard whether these doctrines were correct or not.

So, today we are divided into many "churches" and doctrines, and there is much disagreement among ourselves as to who is right and who is wrong. God did not want us to be this way, and He chastises us for it. He wrote a BOOK all about what He wants from us....but few actually study it for themselves.

There are even "Christian" churches today who follow and believe the Jews and their doctrines. There are no such thing as "Messianic Jews". Christians follow Jesus, and Jews follow Judaism. The term "Judeo-Christian" is an oxymoron.

As one actor once said a long time ago..."What a fine mess we're in!......

We all need to read and understand the errors pointed out in the Book of Galatians.

Also, we need to avoid "the traditions of men" which God has also warned us about....and these traditions of men are what the religion of the Jews is all about. Have you ever had the unpleasant experience of reading the Talmud? It's a doctrinal book for the Jews, and it's very enlightening.

Read the whole chapter 7 of the Gospel of Mark...especially verse 7..."Howbeit in vain do they worship me teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

And Colossians 2:8..."Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.." In fact, so many pastors now tell their "flock" what they should eat, drink, not drink, what they should wear or not wear, do, or not do, etc. And then they start a new "church" which follows these doctrines.

We all need to look in the mirror and ask ourselves who is to blame for such mass confusion. Christians intensely study Matthew chapter 24, Mark chapter 13, Luke chapter 21, Daniel chapter 9, and try to figure out Revelation....but they almost totally ignore most of the OT, and a great deal of the NT...and then they say they know prophecy and doctrine.

Each one of us will be judged for our faith, works, and doctrines. But, this is only my own fairly educated opinion...what do I know anyway?

Arlene

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Today I decided to, rather than argue the point, find the "root" of the problem with Dispensational beliefs. Anyone who wants to know this can easily find it by researching C.I.Scoffield and his part in the history of the Christian church.

And, for those who want to know the truth, it is contained within this link:
(others can live on, deceiving and being deceived)


http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/illuminati_exposed-part_2.htm


This is a piece of the article within the link:


In summary, fundamentalist Christians today are overtly Zionist and NOT Christian. Christian Zionism offers an uncritical endorsement of the Israeli political right and at the same time shows an inexcusable lack of compassion for the Palestinian tragedy. In doing so it has legitimised their oppression in the name of the Gospel. In practice, they reject the teaching of The Lord Jesus in the New Testament: that each of us is equally precious in the eyes of the Lord. Instead, they live in the Judaised world of the Old Testament, where a mean-spirited Yahweh played favourites with his children, giving only his “chosen” the right to commit unspeakable acts of barbarism upon others. Judeo-Christians will seemingly do anything for Israel and the Jews, whom they worship as God or God's little brother, although they would never admit it. They are only too happy to be the Jews' mind slaves, and insist we all join in their bondage. Certainly their beliefs are anti-Christian. More to the point: Zionist "Christians" are traitors to the cause of Christ. Along with Jews, they urge us to spill the blood of any who stand in the way of Israeli ambition. Essentially, Christian Zionism fails to recognise the deep-seated problems that exist between Palestinians and Israelis; it distorts the Bible and marginalizes the universal imperative of the Christian gospel; it has grave political ramifications and ultimately ignores the sentiments of the overwhelming majority of indigenous Christians. It is a situation that many believe Israel exploits to her advantage, cynically welcoming Christian Zionists as long as they remain docile and compliant with Israeli government policy. “Woe to him who builds a town with bloodshed, who establishes a city by iniquity! Behold, it is not of the Lord of hosts.." (Habakkuk 2:12,13)



THE INCREDIBLE INFLUENCE OF SCOFIELD

It is impossible to overstate the influence of this immoral conman, outright deviant and dishonest trickster, Cyrus Ingerson Scofield, on twentieth-century Christian belief. Scofield has served as the primary agent by which Evangelical Christianity has become corrupted - teaching and propagating the doctrine of a Jewish New World Order for over 100 years. In fact, the Scofield Bible is so highly regarded today as THE standard Dispensational reference work in virtually all major Christian ministries and divinity schools worldwide, that even the author’s margin notes are popularly viewed as “holy writ.”



And who was Cyrus Scofield? History records that as a young con-artist in Kansas after the American Civil War, he met up with the notorious John J. Ingalls, an aging Jewish lawyer who had been sent by the "Secret Six" some thirty years before to work the Abolitionist cause. Pulling strings both in Kansas and with his compatriots back east, Ingalls assisted Scofield in gaining admission to the Bar, and procured his appointment as Federal Attorney for Kansas. Ingalls and Scofield became partners in a railroad scam, which led to Cyrus serving time for criminal forgery. While he was in prison, Scofield began studying the philosophy of John Darby, pioneer of the Plymouth Brethren movement and the "any moment now" Rapture doctrine. Upon his release from prison, Scofield deserted his first wife, Leonteen Carry Scofield, and his two daughters Abigail and Helen, and he took as his mistress a young girl from the St. Louis Flower Mission. He later abandoned her for Helen van Ward, whom he eventually married. Following up his Illuminati connections in New York, he settled in at the Lotus Club, which was listed as his residence for the next twenty years. It was here that he presented his ideas for a new Christian Bible concordance, and was taken under the wing of the infamous Samuel Untermeier, who later became chairman of the American Jewish Committee, president of the American League of Jewish Patriots, and chairman of the Non-sectarian Anti-Nazi League. Untermeier introduced the “useful idiot” Scofield to numerous Zionist and socialist big-boys, including Samuel Gompers, Fiorello LaGuardia, Abraham Straus, Bernard Baruch and Jacob Schiff. These were the questionable people who financed Scofield's “research trips” to Oxford and arranged the publication and distribution of his widely read Bible concordance. On the “Scofield Reference Bible,” John Wick Bowman says: "This book represents the most dangerous heresy currently to be found within Christian circles." (Ibid., p.58

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Your choice is to keep this poison in your system or "spit it out" now! True doctrine will be taught and learned during the Tribulation. Maybe this is what the difference is between the "sealed" and the ones not sealed by God in Revelation chapter 7. The "Israel of God" is the Church (believers), contrary to the opinion of Dispensationalists. Nobody today knows if, or not, they are among that grouping. But, we should know soon.

Arlene

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This may surprise most Christians, and I'm preparing for getting "tomatoes" thrown at me...BUT, I'm ALL about the truth and pointing it out. Apostasy is to turn away from the truth. It's happening!

But...nobody will see this error unless SOMEONE points it out.


http://henrymakow.com/nwo_introduced_under_masonic_g.html


I think this link says it better than any I have seen before. On another website, I read where a Christian proclaimed, "I'm a Christian Zionist" and I'm proud of it!!!. And others followed with similar comments...be very careful! How have you changed to become more "Jewish"??

Arlene

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Our Lord Jesus Christ gets very divisive in Matthew chapter 23. The world thinks of Him as being meek, mild, gentle, and never uttering an angry word!! (Except the time he turned over the tables of the money changers in the Temple). And not many pastors teach this side of Him. Perhaps it would be too "reflective"??

I read my bible all the time. I search and look up things that people say which don't "click" with what I have learned. Always, my bible is my final authority on everything. However, occasionally I come upon writings by people whom I have grown to admire. J. Preston Eby is one. L. Ray Smith is another who has a different way of telling things, but I find truth in what he points out in scripture. I have learned a LOT this way.

Here is a rather long article written by Smith, and it points out the "Jesus" that many people have overlooked. Yes, it's the same Jesus who preached the Sermon on the Mount and told the people how to pray, turn the other cheek, and love thy neighbor, etc...BUT, this side of Him is one I truly enjoy.


http://bible-truths.com/fools.htm


Sometimes what you have learned from a pastor is not always what is the truth of the plan God has for the world. If you've never heard about it from anyone, how will you know about it? And once you know about something, you search the scriptures to see if it's the truth.

And I, personally, LOVE this one...

Arlene

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Unless a Christian can totally understand who the "Israel of God" is as told to us in Galatians 6:16, it is NOT POSSIBLE to understand the Bible nor the scenario of the end-times.

The reason for this is FALSE TEACHING in most of today's churches, especially the ones to have the doctrine of Dispensationalism. I don't want to anger them, but it is the responsibility of every Christian to tell others when false doctrine is being put forth.

"Israel" throughout the Bible are those who believed in and followed God...this is OT and NT definition of "Israel". And the "land" that was to be possessed was Canaan, not Israel....Ex.16:35. Moses was not allowed to enter the land because of disobedience. Then Israel lost the land because of apostasy and disobedience as well. The next "promised land" is not on this present earth. And this promise is to "Israel" who are all believers in Jesus Christ.

The first "Jews" apostatized from being "Israel" and became followers of the false religion of Judaism. These are NOT God's chosen people, nor have they ever been. In order to understand this, one must study about these people who now occupy the land they, themselves, have named "Israel". This land is actually what the Bible calls "Edom" and they will not have a very pretty end...UNLESS they repent and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ.


This link explains things pretty well. Jesus was NEVER a "Jew". It is through false information that Christians declare this as a "fact"...but here are the ACTUAL FACTS:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/factindx.htm


Another piece that explains a little more:


> Is The Jews' "Chosen People" Masquerade Finally Over?
> Shortly after World War I, Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company, assembled a staff of experts in Detroit to conduct research on the European Jews who had been entering America in large numbers since the 1880's. Ford provided the staff with several million dollars for this research, and in 1923 he published the results in a four-volume work titled "THE INTERNATIONAL JEW." It was Henry Ford's conclusion that very few of these people who called themselves "Jews" were descendants of the Bible Israelites. Ford further proved that these Jews, using all sorts of crimes while under the cloak of being the Chosen People of the Bible, were rapidly taking economic and political control of America. In the religious field, Ford claimed THE JEWS HAD SECRETLY GAINED CONTROL OF MOST PROTESTANT SEMINARIES AND CHRISTIAN BOOK- PUBLISHING HOUSES and had been able to remove almost all criticism of Jews from Christian literature.
> In summing up his findings, Henry Ford stated, "The Jews are not the Chosen People, though practically the entire Church has succumbed to the propaganda which declares them to be so." Ford's book caused a furor for a few years but soon disappeared from colleges, universities, and public libraries and became unobtainable at any price. The Churches continued to teach "The Jews are God's Chosen People, Israel," and the (by then) Jewish-dominated news media began to refer to Jews always as Israelites. Anyone opposing the increasing Jewish control of the nations was immediately branded "anti-Semitic;" and Jewish dominated Seminaries taught new ministers to quote Genesis 12:1-3 and sternly warn their flocks that anyone speaking unfavorably of the Jews would be "cursed by God." Jewish control of American society, politics, and religions continued to increase.
> In 1951 retired U.S. Military Intelligence Officer, Col. John Beaty, published a scholarly 265-page book IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA. In it Col. Beaty gave overwhelming evidence this strange Race of Eastern European "Jews" were actually Khazar and Mongol Asiatics and had no racial ancestory in Israel at all.
> He then proved that by 1951 these "Jews" had a stranglehold on American politics, on Banking and Credit, on all sources of news, on the entertainment industry, on America's education system, and that they were the predominant race as judges, lawyers, doctors, and in organized crime. The Jewish news media refused to review the book, Jewish book dealers refused to handle it, Christian book stores ignored it, and only a few thousand copies were distributed. Most Americans never heard of IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA. Now, because of renewed interest, both THE INTERNATIONAL JEW (in an abridged edition) and IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA have been reprinted and are available. (See ordering information below).
> The latest, and perhaps the most succinct book on this subject, is ISRAEL'S $5 TRILLION DOLLAR SECRET by Col. Curtis B. Dall, former son-in-law of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and a personal acquaintance of many high officials in the U.S. Govern ment since the 1930's. Col. Dall lives and works in the Washington, D. C. area, and his book, published in 1977. Col. Dall proves again, from reliable sources, that the Jews are NOT Israelites. In fact, Col. Dall calls their masquerade as "Israel" the greatest "hoax" of the last centuries! It should be read by every non-Jew.

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It is high time for those who have this false believe to repent of it and search the Bible for the real answers. Jesus is the "Truth"..John 14:6. And those who love Him will strive only for the truth. And the ironic thing about this is that Dispensationalists read the statement "I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curseth thee:" (Gen.12:3) and sincerely believe that this refers to the "Jews" and the present "Nation of Israel".

God was referring to the "Seed" of Abraham (Jesus Christ and those who believe in Him) and NOT to the "seeds"(fleshy descendants) of Abraham. And again, these Christians are "blessing" a cursed nation (Israel..whose people actually hate Jesus Christ) and they don't understand that it is the people of the "body of Christ" who are to be "blessed"...not the Jews. See Gal.3:16.


Arlene

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Psalms 122...the complete meaning of the term in vs.6, which is "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and they shall prosper that love thee."


The whole Psalm for context:


1. I WAS glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the Lord.

2. Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem.

3. Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together:

4. Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the Lord, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the Lord.

5. FOR THERE ARE SET THRONES OF JUDGMENT, the thrones of the house of David.

6. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem; they shall prosper that love thee.

7. Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces.

8. For my brethren and companions' sakes, i will now say, Peace be within thee.

9. Because of the hours of the Lord our God I will seek thy good.



God's mandate for praying for the "peace of Jerusalem" is NOT pointing to just this present earthly Jerusalem. God's word is many-layered and one must pray for understanding to see what is beneath the surface. This can only be done by the leading of the Holy Spirit and prayer.

The literal, superficial reading, at first sight, might indicate that this Psalm refers to the Jerusalem that is now the capital of the nation of Israel, since 1948, and the people living there. But, shouldn't we be praying for EVERY CITY AND NATION IN THIS WORLD and not just one? When I thought deeply and prayerfully about this, I realized that it is said that Jerusalem is in the "heart of the earth". That gives this verse a view most people don't see.


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This is a piece of an article on map-making that I ran across during my "internet travels":


The Delineation of the Earth
Every great people of antiquity, as a rule, regarded its own central city or most holy place as necessarily the centre of the earth.

The Chaldeans held that their ``holy house of the gods'' was the centre. The Egyptians sketched the world under the form of a human figure, in which Egypt was the heart, and the centre of it Thebes. For the Assyrians, it was Babylon; for the Hindus, it was Mount Meru; for the Greeks, so far as the civilized world was concerned, Olympus or the temple at Delphi; for the modern Mohammedans, it is Mecca and its sacred stone; the Chinese, to this day, speak of their empire as the ``middle kingdom.'' It was in accordance, then, with a simple tendency of human thought that the Jews believed the centre of the world to be Jerusalem.

The book of Ezekiel speaks of Jerusalem as in the middle of the earth, and all other parts of the world as set around the holy city. Throughout the ``ages of faith'' this was very generally accepted as a direct revelation from the Almighty regarding the earth's form. St. Jerome, the greatest authority of the early Church upon the Bible, declared, on the strength of this utterance of the prophet, that Jerusalem could be nowhere but at the earth's centre; in the ninth century Archbishop Rabanus Maurus reiterated the same argument; in the eleventh century Hugh of St. Victor gave to the doctrine another scriptural demonstration; and Pope Urban, in his great sermon at Clermont urging the Franks to the crusade, declared, ``Jerusalem is the middle point of the earth''; in the thirteenth century an ecclesiastical writer much in vogue, the monk Caesarius of Heisterbach, declared, ``As the heart in the midst of the body, so is Jerusalem situated in the midst of our inhabited earth,'' - ``so it was that Christ was crucified at the centre of the earth.'' Dante accepted this view of Jerusalem as a certainty, wedding it to immortal verse; and in the pious book of travels ascribed to Sir John Mandeville, so widely read in the Middle Ages, it is declared that Jerusalem is at the centre of the world, and that a spear standing erect at the Holy Sepulchre casts no shadow at the equinox.

Ezekiel's statement thus became the standard of orthodoxy to early map-makers. The map of the world at Hereford Cathedral, the maps of Andrea Bianco, Marino Sanuto, and a multitude of others fixed this view in men's minds, and doubtless discouraged during many generations any scientific statements tending to unbalance this geographical centre revealed in Scripture.

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So, since earthly Jerusalem is at the "heart of the earth" it is the ONE city which is the central, radiating focus of God's plan in salvation for the whole world....see John 3:16 for one of many verses. It's where Jesus Christ, and then His ApostleS, and finally, His disciples went forth to spread the Gospel throughout the world.

But, present-day Jerusalem is full of strife and UNBELIEVERS, and it will be UNTIL the return of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, when we "pray for the peace of Jerusalem" we are praying for the return of our Lord...because without Him, there will be no peace for Jerusalem, or for the rest of the world.

This prayer has NOTHING to do with Jews, Arabs, or Christians...and it has EVERYTHING to do with our Lord Jesus Christ and His Lordship over HIS people. Galatians 4:26..."But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all."


Arlene

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So far, I have had criticisms of all areas of "Churchianity" in general, and some were more specific. However, I am an "equal-opportunity" critic of ANYONE OR ANYTHING that is not Biblical.

Not too long ago, someone replied to me about something I had written. Today, I was going over some of my postings to see if there was anything I could learn from them....even to the point of self-criticism, if necessary. I found this one, and it struck something within me that needed a general statement.

This is the quote told to me:

"I must say that there is a division in the church--between those very few who stand only on the inerrant KJV Bible as the source for truth--- and the vast majority you mentioned who allow error to creep in......

The Baptists were never part of the Roman heresy,, not the heresy promoted by the mainstream prodestant churches today....

I will pray for you and our bretherin......"



I appreciate the kind manner in which this was presented. However, there is something I read recently which was perfect for refuting this kind of statement. It's just that sometimes TRUTH must be brought to the LIGHT before others are able to see it.

This article is on a type of "Spiritual Abuse", and I feel it's perfect to hold spiritual "snobbery" (I don't know what else to call it) up to the light so it can be seen for what it is:


http://www.baptistdeception.com/spiritualabuse.html


Small piece of the article in the above link:


"One of the biggest problems with spiritual abuse is that it is VERY subtle. Think of the abuser as a con artist. Pastors and other spiritual leaders become adept at using scripture to back up their subtle manipulation and control. Leaders often find ways to control, not only what happens in their churches, but also what happens in Your personal life. For example, leaders in the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination would frequently communicate the need for us to consult with them (or the person discipling us) before making decisions especially major decisions. Leadership brings guilt on members for going on vacation especially if that person hasn't paid the correct amount of tithe."

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God, Himself, has only ONE "denomination" and it is called "the body of Christ"...see I Corinthians chapter 12. We do not have the right to break off in little, separate pieces and rename ourselves by any name we choose. This is called APOSTASY because it is turning away from the truth in the Bible. ALL denominations have WRONG DOCTRINE for the simple reason that they ARE a "separate" denomination.

Has anyone ever read Ephesians 4:4-6..."There is ONE body, and ONE Spirit, even as ye are called in ONE hope of your calling; (vs.5) ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism, (vs.6) ONE God and Father of ALL, who is above ALL, and through ALL, and IN YOU ALL."

Anyone who calls their "group" a separate group from ALL the "body of Christ" has the WRONG DOCTRINE. That's what the Bible says!!

Arlene

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And here she goes again.......

I've been fairly silent for the past couple of weeks, but it was by my own choice. I've waited to see how the lies can go on about "God's chosen people". And I've seen ongoing agreement by those who should know better...and the lies go on without interruption.....and all the rest go back to (yawn!) sleep again. Truth doesn't seem to matter.

I have the feeling that those who perpetrate the "Jewish Lie" won't stop until they feel satisfied that what they, themselves, believe to be true is "swallowed" (hook, line, and sinker) by those who really don't have the time or inclination to investigate the truth for themselves.

I am coming to the conclusion that just when the "itch" appears to have been concealed under lots of self-righteous, calming rhetoric (and not necessarily on this site)...it's time to bring this topic up, again.

For those who are "awake", aware, and curious, there is a lot to be found within this link:


http://www.overlordsofchaos.com/html/jewish_conspiracy_10.html


Piece of the article:


However, no matter how the Zionist historiographers fiddle with the facts, and sanitise their foul history, Objective History tells a different tale. It tells a true tale of the terrible events between December 1947 and December 1950 when over 530 Palestinian villages and towns were destroyed by Zionist Terrorists and murderers. It tells of the time when half of the Palestinian population was ethnically cleansed by Zionist Terror Gangs even before the unilateral declaration by Zionist Conspirators of the founding of their Zionist State of Israel. It tells of dark and terrible events the Palestinians call the "Nakba" ("catastrophe").

Objective History tells of how the founding of the Zionist State of Israel by a very, very powerful force using every tactic of terror, of murder, assassination and intimidation, had succeeded in its goal. That it had established the Kingdom of the Jews on "a land without people for a people without a land" but in doing so had created the largest refugee population in the world. Such that today, seven million of the ten million Palestinians are refugees or displaced people. Gentle reader, that such a thing can occur, with such expedition and the "International Community" and the Mass Media remain largely silent on the matter shows the degree of power behind the Zionist Conspiracy. That a group of people, the Modern Tribe of Jews,can falsely claim another peoples' land march into that land and systematically remove the people from their ancient land using terror and murder, and the Ruling Elite of the world condone it, shows that it is part of a larger agenda. And indeed it is. For, it is an integral part of the Ancient Agenda for World Government.

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Today I had a strange, but wonderful experience with that "small, still, voice" in my heart. I could almost see God smiling when He showed me something for which I wasn't even looking.

I even forget what I was researching because I was reading some things in the link below...which is extremely long, but has some fantastic information in it about all kinds of subjects such as Judaism, Dispensationalism, and false prophets, etc.

BUT....It was the DEFINITION of what a "Jew" was that stopped me cold in my tracks!!! A scripture popped into my head...."divided kingdom", and I thought of Matthew 12:25...which says:

"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, 'EVERY KINGDOM DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF IS BROUGHT TO DESOLATION; AND EVERY CITY OR HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF SHALL NOT STAND:...."

These are the actual words (in red) of our Lord Jesus Christ, Himself. He is telling us that a "divided" kingdom will self-destruct!!!!

The definition of being a "JEW" is to DENY THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD (the Messiah). Therefore, if Jesus Christ were a "JEW", He would actually be destroying His own Kingdom!!! So, it is IMPOSSIBLE for Jesus Christ to be a "JEW" or practice Judaism. He would have to deny Himself in order to do this.


http://biblicalexaminer.org/w200003.htm#Jews-Israel


Small piece of the definition of a "JEW"....

"Pagans can be Jews because the basis of being a Jew is rejection of Christ. Judaism is simply a matter of following the rites and rituals of that religion while denying that Christ fulfilled those rites and rituals. Clearly, when a Jew accepts Jesus as the Messiah, he or she is no longer Jewish, for the foundation of today's Judaism is rejecting Christ.

See a more detailed discussion on Jews, Israelites and the Hebrews at the end of this article."

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The FIRST believers (Christians) were those Apostles who became believers in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. Not all were Jews, but some were. But, in order to become a "Christian", they had to LEAVE JUDAISM in order to become believers. The Gospel went to the "Jews", first. Some believed and converted, and some didn't. But one could NOT KEEP BEING A "JEW" after becoming a Christian. You had to be one OR the other, but not both.


And Jesus was certainly not a "JEW"....HE WAS (and still is) GOD!! And God cannot deny Himself.


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There are NO EXCEPTIONS to this rule. If your "place of worship" is under "tax exempt" status, it follows the rules and regulations of our government. It cannot do otherwise, or it would be closed down.

The Government is no respecter of denominations.....all are EQUALLY corrupted.


Good article explaining this by Dr. Lorraine Day:


http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/spiritual/the_organized_church/501c3.htm

Piece of the article:

God does NOT dwell in the “Organized Church”!

God has always said, “I just want to be your God, and you be my people.” (Leviticus 26:12)

God wants NO middlemen!

The Organized Church has blasphemously taken the place of God!

God has never commanded nor endorsed an Organized Church of ANY kind!

God wants to run our lives, directly and personally, with no one in between!

Here is Jesus’ final word on the subject! (Matthew 20:25-2

Jesus said to His disciples, You know that the princes of the Unbelievers (mistranslated “Gentiles” lord it over one another, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.

BUT IT SHALL NOT BE SO AMONG YOU: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your servant; And whosoever will be first among you, let him be your slave;

Even as the Son of man came not to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for (the) many.

Christianity is NOT a religion. It is a Personal Relationship with Jesus Christ!

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II Corinthians 6:14, 17, 18...."Be ye NOT unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness: and what communion hath light with darkness?"......(vs.17) Wherefore COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM, AND BE YE SEPARATE, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, (vs.18) And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, SAITH THE LORD ALMIGHTY."

Is that person who sits next to you in "church" a believer? How about the one who is sitting in the back (sleeping through the service)? There should be NO UNBELIEVERS in the same congregation ("church") as BELIEVERS. And this is NOT God's way of worship....it never has been, nor will it ever be.

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II Corinthians 6:17..."Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye SEPARATE, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."


As I look back and see all of the arguments that happen between members of the "body of Christ", I can see where they ALL originate. They come from PEOPLE who sit in a pew to learn FROM OTHER MEN the doctrines they believe. Where do Pastors (or "educated" Bible teachers) learn their doctrines? From other "men" or from those who have had "seminary training".

I respect our "webmaster" and his decision to not argue doctrine, but as a member of the "body of Christ", I feel that I must point out to others that what they learn may not be the truth because of the ORIGIN of their doctrines.

I Corinthians 14:33..."For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints."

A "church" has NEVER been a building, nor was it ever meant to be. But, it seems that Satan has put this BUILDING (set up by men) as the GREATEST HINDRANCE TO THE TRUTH that there has ever been....and it has caused ENDLESS CONFUSION, ARGUMENTS, AND DIVISIONS in the "body of Christ".

Another site I came to today by "accident" which seemed to exude just about everything I have been thinking lately....and what God must be thinking and feeling as He watches his "one body" disintegrating into fragments:

http://www.wickedshepherds.com/TheChristianChurchDistortedandDeformed.html


Piece of one of the sections in the article:


"It was not long after Jesus left this earth that Satan came among the disciples and began to change their focus and consequently, what they were doing. Using his "craftiness" and his "burning arrows," Satan changed the center of their attention from Jesus and each other, to an organization; a building called the church. He changed what they spent their time thinking about and doing; from serving the Lord, to serving the church and it's been that way ever since.

Anyone who has ever participated in the building, maintenance and operations of a church building knows how time-consuming that can be. Many conscientious people believe they are serving the Lord when they are serving only the needs of church-owned real estate with an uncontrolled appetite for time, effort, and money. Just think of the time, energy, and money each building takes that otherwise would have been spent doing the things the first century Christians did.

Not only that, instead of depending on the Lord for the words to say, the things to do, and the places to go, as the early disciples did, Satan taught us to build theological seminaries, preaching schools, leadership training schools, ministerial academies, and to conduct endless pastoral workshop conferences. How else can the church find qualified ministers, pastors, preachers, elders, deacons, if they don't have a system to train them properly in that particular church's doctrine? Think of the time, effort and money siphoned away from the work of our Lord with that stratagem of Satan's!

Then, there is the whole mentality of "image" and "formality," Satan's chicanery at it's finest. When you read the New Testament, you don't see anything very formal among the early disciples. Can you imagine Paul, placing himself on an elevated platform (stage), behind a pulpit (which he must have to hold his notes) at the Corinthian church plant with all lights focused on him, talking to a group of people whose seating is arranged for the best view of him (even though they are looking at the backs of each other's heads)? "

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THIS ONE SHOWS THE MAIN CAUSE OF THE APOSTASY OF CHRISTIANITY....DESTRUCTION OF BIBLE TRUTHS AND THE MEN WHO ACCOMPLISHED THIS.


"He who does not know history is doomed to repeat it...".

At present, it escapes my memory who originated that quote. And the reason I give that quote is that history has been "revised", if not ultimately "destroyed" as it, in fact, happened.

The "Schoolhouse" originated when settlers gathered their children in one room to learn to read the Bible. Not everyone had Bibles in those days, so they shared and discussed what was read by everyone.

The "Schoolhouse", in turn, became a "Sunday-go-to-meeting" place for everyone, of all ages, in that community to learn about the Bible and discuss these things....as well as to worship God together.

NOW, churches are "social clubs", and schools do not allow Bibles or prayer. What changed, and who was the instrument by which this change took place? It didn't take much research to find the truth!!

AM I AT ALL SURPRISED? Of course, it had to come from the beginning of the "doctrines of demons", which has resulted in the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN:

AND I WILL GIVE YOU THREE GUESSES....AND FOR THE "WISE", THERE WON'T BE ANY NEED FOR THE FIRST TWO.


http://www.preteristarchive.com/dEmEnTiA/davis-nord_dd_01.html


Here are several pieces of the article, which was a little too long to include as one piece:


Out of this Massachusetts society came a man born in Middleton in 1833 named John J. Ingalls. He was a graduate of Williams College. He was a spokesman for a Boston Group known as the "Secret Six". Isn't it interesting they picked six? Mr. Ingalls was sent to Atchison Kansas, and it is enough to say right here that he associated himself with a young lawyer Cyrus I Scofield.

Actually Scofield never attended any college even for one day as a student. Scofield however fancied himself as a lawyer. He assumed all sorts of phony credentials. From that of a minister to that of a Bible scholar, to that of a lawyer, Nothing seemed to hinder him. And of course he was not admitted to the bar as he could not pass the examination. However through the influences of the Secret Six men in Kansas Scofield was admitted to the Bar. Thought he had never attended any school, and with no formal training whatever, he gave himself a theological doctorate degree, in the same way.

Scofield, went on with the help of the Secret Six, to be appointed United States Attorney for Kansas, only to be forced to resign after six months when he and his friend Ingalls were caught trying to blackmail the railroads out of some money. What is important here is that the Boston Secret Six, assigned C. I. Scofield, the task of translating the fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of man concept into a system of Bible teaching.

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Now with the Secret Six, Scofield, and some of his associates, such as Dwight L. Moody, things were going to change. On July 23, 1901, Scofield confided in his friends the he intended to develop a reference Bible that would bring about "this new beginning and new testimony". Of course such tremendous efforts takes a lot of money, and a lot of time. Scofield had the time and he needed the money. While he was talking like a Christian out of one side of his mouth he was taking money and doing the bidding of his socialist communist friends of the secret six.

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The purpose of Samuel Untermeier, and those associated with him was to find a way to get fundamental Christians to have an interest in and support for the international Zionist cause. Which had been one of Untermeiers life long projects. Samuel Untermeier died in 1941 but records I have in my office proves beyond a shadow of a doubt he was a dedicated communist all the time. They prove he worked for communist causes all of his adult life. In the 20 years of membership in the Lotus club Scofield had a long association with him. And had to know about his un American activities and his synagogue of Satan.

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This is the very reason for the special and unusual association between Scofield and Samuel Untermeier. They knew that Scofield's "any moment now" rapture doctrine, which he stole from J. N. Darby, and Darby stole it from a female Pentecostal preacher in Scotland, named Martha Mcdonald, who in turn stole it from a Spanish Jesuit Priest Emanuel LaContsa who made it up and then published it first in Spanish under the pen name Rabbi Ben Ezra. The works of Rabbi Ben Ezra are still sold openly in Christian book stores. So you can see it all ties together.

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With the many ministers of the 1920 and 1930s around preaching Scofield's Dispensationalism -- in his words, the "new testimony," became common but was not heard of 100 years ago. The push was on in the late 1930s to get the Scofield reference Bible into the hands of Protestant denominations. Scofield notes stating right on the pages of King James Bible that "the Jews are all of Israel" was to set the stage for the theft of Palestine from the Palestinian people and give it by United Nations decree to a mixed multitude most of whose forbearers never set foot in the land for a thousand years, if ever. For those reasons alone, Scofield's notes were worth every penny That Samuel Untermeier and his Secret Six friends paid for them.

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As I have written time and time again, over the past 20 years, the more Churches we get in America the more wicked and socialist the nation becomes. Scofield's "new testimony" has been the leading cause for the fall of the American civilization. It has altered the Christian and his theology to the point of indifference to what is happening in his country. He is not concerned about but generally approves of the fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of man ideas promoted by thousands of hours of television entertainment and programming. He is happy to watch biracial situation comedies and movie specials promoting interracial marriages which God has forbidden.

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The only point with which I will clarify is that I do not believe that God has "forbidden" interracial marriages, as such. Personally, I believe they cause too many problems, but that is up to each individual to consider.

http://christiananswers.net/q-sum/sum-g003.html


The "foundation" has been destroyed, and the "structure" it has become will fall. It can do nothing else.

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An axiom in the field of the "news" is "If it bleeds, it leads...". And the title of "Bloodthirsty Christian Zionism" didn't seem quite right to me because it reminded me of "vampires" being that way.

However, Christian Zionists do not suck out our life-blood...but their leaders and teachers try to suck out our spirituality and our love of the truth.

They have one destination in mind....a ONE WORLD ORDER under Zionism. Because of the teachings of these people, Christians are led into the FALSE believe that Jesus Christ is coming to set up a Kingdom of the Jews.

That's what the Jews (Pharisees) believed the first time Jesus was upon this earth....and they were WRONG the first time.

We should learn from their mistakes....and not do the same thing they did.


http://comet2012.com/forum/antichrist/chosen-satan-not-god-bloodthirsty-christian-zionism-t6777.html


Piece of the article:


How, pray tell, can "all jewish people" be "natural descendants of Abraham," a Chaldean who lived some 3000 years ago? Persons of all races are jewish people and new jewish people are being converted every day from every race. One might as well say all Lutherans are the natural descendants of Martin Luther; or that all Baptists come from the loins of John the Baptist. This note could only have been written by an Israeli patriot, for no one else would have a vested interest in promoting this genetic nonsense. Shame on those who accept this racism; it is apostate Christianity.

The original Scofield note was far out of line with traditional Christianity in 1908, and should have been treated as heresy then. Yet Scofield had failed to go far enough for the Zionists. Scofield clearly recognized what the book of Genesis states, that the sons of Ishmael are co-heirs to Abraham's ancient promise. Did not Scofield say "the Israelitish people and Ishmaelitish people are...the natural posterity of Abraham"? The Oxford Press simply waited for Scofield to die and changed it as they wished.
And what is it that Scofield said that did not satisfy the Zionists who rewrote the Oxford 1967 Edition?

The answer is an easy one. Most Arab and Islamic scholars consider Arabs in general and the Prophet Mohammed in particular to be direct descendants of Ishmael, Abraham's first son and older half-brother of Isaac, whose son Jacob was later to become known as "Israel." Many Arabs believe that through Ishmael they are co-heirs of to Abraham's promise, and they correctly believe that present-day Israelis have no Biblical right to steal their land. Jewish Talmudic folklore also speaks of Ishmael, so the Zionists apparently felt they had to alter how Christians viewed the two half brothers in order to prevent Christians from siding with the Arabs over the land theft.

The Zionists solved this dilemma by inserting a senseless footnote in the 1967 (Oxford) Scofield Reference Bible which, in effect, substituted the word "jewish people" for the words "The Israelitish people and Ishmaelitish people," as Scofield originally wrote it. The Israelitish and Ishmaelitish people lived 3000 years ago, but the Zionists want to claim the Arabs’ part of the presumed birthright right now! Read it again; "All jewish people are natural descendants of Abraham, but are not necessarily his spiritual posterity."

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The sentence SHOULD BE READ "All Israelitish people and Ishmaelitish people are natural descendents of Abraham, but are not necessarily his spiritual posterity." And that would be true because both Isaac (Israelitish) and Ishmael (Ishmaelitish) were both born of Abraham.

Changing the word to "Jewish" makes it completely inaccurate.


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Remember when you were a child? It really wasn't that long ago when you think about it. Everything you saw, and everything that was told to you....you asked, "Why?" And you kept asking until you got an answer.

THIS IS CALLED THE PROCESS OF LEARNING!! And, today, people have stopped learning...even from childhood. They are told that they must believe what they hear even if it makes no sense at all. And the end product of this process is called IGNORANCE.

People believe ANYONE who seems to be in authority over them. For example, if your doctor tells you that you need a certain medication, you take it! Even if you don't understand the reason...you do it because you are told it's good for you. And you question nothing.

Then, ten years later, it is discovered that this medication has really been very harmful to people and the drug company which produced it is being sued....and television gives you a number to call to join in the lawful suit, if you have been affected as well. But it's too late for you because the damage has already been done.

THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY ASKING "WHY??".....and not doing something blindly because you are told by someone being "perceived" to have more knowledge than you. AGAIN, THIS IS IGNORANCE.

This is the SAME THING that has happened with Christianity over the centuries and years, but especially since the advent of television. People believe what they hear on the "idiot box" (television) and question NOTHING. They believe that if it is told to us on television, it MUST BE TRUE!!

Today, if a preacher (whether on television or behind the pulpit) tells the "Sheeple" ANYTHING, it is unquestionably BELIEVED TO BE TRUE. This is the ORIGIN OF DECEPTION. Yet, there are very few who will EVER admit to being deceived. Most people who have been going to the same church for many years will NEVER, EVER DOUBT WHAT THEIR PASTOR SAYS....even if he has been wrong.

And, the MOST unfortunate thing of all is that if a Pastor realizes he has been WRONG, he cannot admit it because then he would lose his "flock"....they would no longer take his word for "gospel truth", and he would be out of a job! So, the deception continues...unchanged by the truth. What a terrible price someone will have to pay during Judgment!!

YEARS AGO, IN THIS COUNTRY, SCHOOLS WERE BEGUN TO TEACH CHILDREN TO READ THE BIBLE.

Now, the Government has taken authority over schools, and Bibles (and prayer) are not allowed in any government function. This was done by another lie called "the separation of church and state" which was originally in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Church in Danbury, expressing how the "State" should not be involved in affairs of the Church. This history is not taught in schools.

Now, if you ask almost ANY PERSON, they will tell you that "separation of Church and State is a Constitutional mandate"....IT IS ANOTHER LIE.


This is a brief history of RELIGION TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2201818/posts


And this is how Christianity has been "hoodwinked":


http://rense.com/general60/zcre.htm


These are a few examples of Zionist perversions of scripture that have shaped the doctrine of America's most politically powerful religious subculture, the "Christian Zionists" as Ariel Sharon calls them, or the dispensationalists, as intellectual followers call themselves, or the Judeo-Christians as our politically-correct politicians describe themselves. Today's Mid-East wars are not caused by the predisposition of the peoples, who are no more warlike than any human tribes. Without the pandering to Jewish and Zionist interests that is carried out by this subculture--the most vocal being the celebrity Christian evangelists--there would be no such wars, for there is not enough support for war outside of organized Zionist Christianity.

Reverend Stephen Sizer of Christ Church,Christ Church Vicarage, Virginia Water, GU25 4LD, England is perhaps the most dedicated new scholar writing about the Scofield Bible craze, popularly known as Christian Zionism. He has quipped, "Judging Christianity by looking at the American Evangelists is kind of like judging the British by watching Benny Hill."

Reverend Sizer's remark brings to mind another Benny; his name is Benny Hinn, not a British comic, but an American evangelist spouting inflammatory hate-filled words aimed at Muslims everywhere. Hinn was speaking to the applause of an aroused crowd of thousands in the American Airline Center in Dallas when he shocked two Ft. Worth Star Telegram religious reporters covering the July 3d event by announcing, "We are on God's side," speaking of Palestine. He shouted, "This is not a war between Jews and Arabs.. It is a war between God and the Devil." Lest there be any doubt about it, Hinn was talking about a blood war in which the Israelis are "God" and the Palestinians are "the Devil.

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So, many Christians are DECEIVED today because they never ask "WHY" they believe what they do. They are told something in "church", and it is automatically "gospel truth". They believe "a lie"....II Thess. 2:11..."And for this cause God shall send them STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe a lie."

And that lie is alive and well in the "Christian" church. I know this because, for over 20 years, I was deceived as well. This is why I am trying so hard to turn others away from the same deception. I am trying to make amends to God for my past false beliefs.

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Most Christians who have their "eyes open" even partially can understand Bible teachings of the "Beast" systems of government....especially from the Book of Daniel.

There is coming (if it isn't already here) the FINAL "Beast Government" of Revelation chapter 13. Does anybody recognize what is happening? Probably not....because so many Christians are actually fighting for, and encouraging this system to come as soon as possible.

I can almost hear "cheers" and "hand clapping" from the pews of churches when this NWO has finally come to view. And it's no wonder....because it totally astonished John the Apostle when he saw this vision. In fact "all the world wondered after the beast" when they finally saw it for what it was!!! What a miracle!! It was what a large part of Christianity has been hoping and praying for!!! WHAT IS THE BEAST SYSTEM?

IT IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ZIONIST NEW WORLD ORDER...or a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT LED BY THE JEWS!!!!

Revelation chapter 13 tells us all about it. But, I suddenly realized how clearly this stood out when I heard it "right from the horse's (Beast's) mouth(s):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Iyj6UPCChA


You might want to be aware of a big part of the deception.....and how they were able to pull this off while most of the Christian world cheered them on....and helped PAY FOR IT AS WELL: (it would very much surprise me if the link here is still intact and viewable)

Remember that he who does know KNOW HISTORY is doomed to repeat the same mistakes.


http://zioncrimefactory.com/the-six-million-myth/


And this brings us back to the definition of the WOMAN who "rides the Beast".

The Bible defines any "religious system" as a "woman".

There is the "woman" in Revelation chapter 12...who is the faithful "Spiritual Israel", or "body of Christ". These are they who have NOT gone into apostasy from the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Out of her will come those special "sons of God" who will rule and reign with Jesus Christ in His Kingdom. These are the "man child" who come out of the "body of Christ".....see Romans 8:19. What makes them "worthy" of this honor? I don't know. Maybe it has to do with "study to show thyself approved unto God, etc."...II Tim 2:15. Perhaps this is the "prize" of the mark of the high calling of God..." in Phil.3:14 that Paul spoke of.


And there is the "Mystery, Babylonian" "religious system" as a "woman" in Rev.17 and 18(who has become a "wh*re" with the world governments). You can read the description of the "woman" in all her gory detail for yourself.

SO MY CONCLUSION ON THE MATTER.....

The "WOMAN" who rides the "BEAST" is actually apostate Christianity cheering the Jews on to bring in their "promised kingdom" on this earth....as they have believed for such a long time. Today, they are doing EVERYTHING THEY CAN DO TO HELP THEM TO DO JUST THAT!!

They have believed the lie, as we have been told in II Thess.2:11.

If you can see this come into focus as what it really is....do you still want to be part of this heresy? Or should you do what our Lord instructs us to do..."Come out of her (apostate Christianity) my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and THAT YE RECEIVE NOT OF HER PLAGUES."...Rev.18:4

It's not too late....YET!

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Some Christians brag about being a "Christian Zionist" because of their deep love for the Jews as being the "chosen people of God". They love Israel and the Jewish people who are "back in their own land", supposedly, because God "unconditionally" gave them that land.

BUT...in order to get that land they have to kick all the Palestinians out...or kill them! And the Jews are doing that by consent and encouragement of many Christians.

The involvement of America into Israel's affairs is, supposedly, because this country began as "Judeo-Christian" in it's religious orientation.

THIS IS THE FOUNDATION OF A HOUSE BUILT UPON SAND....and it will fall!

For Christians who know what the truth is, Jesus Christ IS God!

For apostate Christians, the Jews are the "chosen of G-d"....and maybe they are, but NOT BY THE GOD OF THE BIBLE. The God of the Bible (JESUS CHRIST) is NOT the "G-d" of the Jews.


This is what is in the Talmud, which is the "Book" of the Jews:


http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html


If you think I am making this up...I AM NOT! This is a piece from an article BY A JEWISH RABBI telling us EXACTLY what the "Book" of the Jews is...and the above link tells what the "Book" (Talmud) says, in fact.


The Talmud: Book of the Jews

by Rabbi Berel Wein

The Jewish people are known as the "People of the Book." In general world opinion, the phrase refers to the Bible and describes it as the text which is most prized and studied by the Jews. While that is essentially true, it is not completely accurate. The text of the book actually emphasized in day-to-day study is the Talmud. It is as much the book of the people (of Israel) as the Jews are the people of that book.

From the Talmud, one can perceive the true "inside story" of the Jewish people, and its love of Torah and its life of destiny. It represents a way of life, a description of human society and its vagaries, a conduit for the never-ending conversation between God and man.

It is also the ultimate textbook of Jewish study, for on its pages is recorded the whole sweep of biblical history, all of the details and minutiae of the legal and ritual system of Judaism as embodied in the Oral Law, as well as biographies, anecdotes and insights into the lives of the main figures of Israel, manifesting an abiding belief in the Lord's personal attention to individuals and His never-failing, if sometimes apparently long-delayed, exercise of justice, retribution and reward.

It also records psychological analyses, medical diagnoses, business and commercial practices and advice, marital counseling, humor and pathos, and an unflinching assessment of God's demands upon Jews and the Jewish people.

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So, if you claim to be "Judeo-Christian", then you must also believe the Talmud. And the Talmud blasphemes our Lord Jesus Christ. "You cannot serve two masters"....Matthew 6:24

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I AM ALL ABOUT THE TRUTH...AND TRUTH IS NEVER JUST ONE-SIDED.

Have you ever watched kids in a playground (or in any places kids gather to play)? They form "cliques", and from these, some are chosen who are liked (and associated with) or disliked (and shunned) by those in the different "cliques".

High school was even worse! Those who were "popular" stuck together like glue and "shunned" those who didn't qualify to be among them. You had to be "good-looking" (according to certain standards), or you had to have something else going for you to attain to this certain "popularity"...perhaps a "sports hero", or "intellectual"....or have another type of "fame" which seemed to set you above others. It was a line that never got crossed. IF you weren't "IN"...then you were "OUT"!!

But, we are supposed to GROW UP and act like adults once we matured. And what is the difference? A MATURE ADULT LOOKS AT THE WHOLE PICTURE....AND LISTENS TO THE WHOLE STORY BEFORE A CONCLUSION IS MADE.

There is a saying that is something like, "A friend of my friend is also my friend; but the enemy of my friend is also my enemy." We dislike someone just because someone we like doesn't like them. IT'S A CHILDHOOD GAME THAT CONTINUES THROUGH ADULTHOOD FOR MOST OF US.

Isn't it the same thing with most Americans? Most of us were born here (although this is rapidly changing), and we were raised to "salute the flag", and sing "The Star Spangled Banner" with our right hand over our heart (of course, while standing up....NEVER sitting down). Those whom America loved, we loved. Those whom America hated, we hated.

We never questioned those things....we just did them. If our government told us that we must hate Japan...we did! Then, we had to hate the Koreans...then the Cubans...then the Germans...then the Russians...then the Arabs (whom we are told are trying to destroy us by holding back their oil just when we were, supposedly, running out of it)....and now we are to hate the Palestinians because they, supposedly, were trying to "wipe Israel off the map!!

WE ARE JUST LIKE LITTLE KIDS WHO ARE TOLD WHAT TO DO....AND WE DO IT!! We don't question "why". We HATE because we are told to.....and then we are fed "propaganda" by a CORRUPT MEDIA. We KNOW they are corrupt, but we listen to everything they say....and BELIEVE IT as "Gospel truth"!!

AND NOW THAT WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND ABOUT "FALSE FLAG" OPERATIONS DONE BY OUR GOVERNMENT, WE SHOULD KNOW BETTER. But do we learn anything from this? Apparently not, because we STILL don't try to find out BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY.

Is this what Christians should do? We are NOT suppose to fight for things of this world. Jesus never did...nor did the Apostles. They NEVER fought the Roman government...nor ANY government! They worked to bring more people into the KINGDOM OF GOD. They NEVER tried to change the world!

What I want to bring to the attention of all Christians is that there are TWO SIDES TO THE STORY of the "war" between the Arabs and the Jews....BUT WE NEVER SEE, HEAR, OR LISTEN TO THE OTHER SIDE. Many of the Palestinian people are our "Brothers in Christ"....but NONE of the Jews are. Yet, we side with the Jews who are terrorizing the Palestinians who just want to live in their own land in peace.

THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY....FOR THOSE WHO ARE "GROWN UP" NOW AND WILLING TO HEAR IT.


http://www.peterloud.co.uk/palestine/


A PIECE FROM THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE


O.K. - My Personal View

If I was Jewish or American I would be greatly ashamed of Israeli terrorism and America facilitating it. It's not about racial or national solidarity, it's about morality, and the Israeli actions, and American support are immoral by any standard, just like the Nazis, and more recently the Serbs, before them. If someone handed a knife to a known murderer, then stood by and watched him kill someone, he too would be guilty of murder, and so it is with U.S.A. and Israel.

How have the Israelis have managed to hijack the government of U.S.A.'s foreign policy and foreign aid?
Even though I did not support the destruction of the WTC, in any way, and I still do not, I can now understand why some Palestinians, Arabs, and Moslems feel such action is justifiable.

I am disappointed with Britain, Europe and UN's ineffectiveness on these key issues. As the butchery continues my views are slowly becoming less pacifist. Surely it is time for Europe, Middle Eastern countries and the rest of the world to supply anti-tank and anti-helicopter weapons to the Palestinians so that they can defend themselves from these land-grabbing Israeli terrorists.

By the way,
I am not a Palestinian,
I am not an Arab,
I am not a Moslem,
I am not anti-semitic, (I differentiate between being Anti-Israel and Anti-semitic).
I'm just an insignificant English guy who is apalled by this Israeli terrorism which is sponsored by the Americans.

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I just wanted everyone to know the whole truth. Whose side is God on? And we should ALL remember that "America" is THE PEOPLE...it is NOT the "government". We, as a people, should GROW UP!

And remember Romans 1:32..."Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, BUT HAVE PLEASURE IN THEM THAT DO THEM." This applies to everyone who gets pleasure of of those who do evil things....or cheers them on.

Arlene

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Arlene, even though I agree with you concerning the vain traditions of men and the man made document called the Talmud, why don't you ever address the equally abominable traditions of men in the Catholic Church? There are almost 2 billion people who consider themselves to be Catholic, and that church is full of vain traditions of men. Not only that, but they have as their leader a man they call the Pope. This man is supposed to be the vicar of Christ on earth, or in place of Jesus Christ. How abominable is this man, the Pope? The Catholic Church has killed an endless number of true believers in Jesus Christ during the dark ages! The crusades and inquisitions was Satan's way of getting rid of the church that Jesus started. You focus too much on Jews, rather than the Mother Harlot Catholic Church! Yes, I get it concerning Judaism! I realize that what we as believers in Jesus Christ believe is quite different than what is taught in Jewish synagogue. I also understand that there are many wolves in sheep's clothing teaching and preaching doctrines of devils from the pulpits of many churches today. I believe in exposing those false doctrines, and studying the word of God to show myself approved a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. I recently spoke out against the Word of Faith movement on my YouTube channel. Their doctrines are absolutely devilish, and yet many are deceived by them.

What I am trying to say is that Christian apologetics is a wonderful thing, but your focus has been mostly against the Jews. One of the things you recently posted seemed to say that Palestinians just want to live in peace. Excuse me, but how do you expect me to believe that Muslims want to live in peace with anyone? Muslims can't even live peacefully among themselves, much less with Jews! Anyway, I'm done ranting! I've made my point, and I have bit my tongue long enough as I have read your endless posts focusing on how evil Jews are, and how stupid all of us are who have studied Bible prophecy for over 20 years or more.

Kevin

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Hello, again, Kevin...

I never said you were "stupid". What I told you is that you were "blind" to the truth AT THIS TIME. This does not mean that you won't learn, eventually.

In answer to your questions of me:

EVERY CHURCH is FULL of the "vain traditions of men". As a matter of fact, Christian "churches" have just about copied everything the Roman Catholic churches do EXCEPT for the "sacraments" they must go through. The "church" is not a building. It's the people. NOWHERE does Jesus Christ tell us to set up building with pulpits, "services" (like "masses"), entertainment, or collections to put a new roof on the church building.

There are THOUSANDS of denomination of all kinds of "churches" and I have not picked any of them to criticize EXCEPT those who make "gods" out of the Jews.

And the reason I pick the Jews is that it is the ZIONIST JEWS who are determined to bring in the BEAST KINGDOM of Revelation chapter 13. Nobody in mainline "Christian" churches pay too much attention to the Pope, so he is not much of a danger. The danger is one you can't SEE even if it's right in front of you.....and that's the Zionists and the Nation of Israel who are full of people who call themselves "Jews"....but most of them are Khazars. This is the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN that is spoken of in Rev.2:9 and 3:9.

As for the Palestinians, I thought it good to bring to the attention of Christians that there are MANY Palestinians (people living in Palestine/Israel) who are CHRISTIANS. They are our "brothers and sisters" in Christ!! NONE OF THE JEWS ARE. Therefore, I think a LOT of our help, sympathy, love, and understanding should go to these people. Yet, many Christians, because of how they feel about Israel and the Jews, want to bomb the crap out of our "brothers and sisters" in Christ. To me, that is not right, so I speak about it!

And, again, as for the Muslims...can you blame them for hating us and wanting to get back at us for what is happening to them in their OWN LAND? I do not think they had anything to do with "9/11" and those atrocities, but right after that happened, Bush declared "war" on the Muslims. I can think of so many things "wrong with this picture", that it would take pages to enumerate them all.

I do not hate the Jews, nor the Catholics, nor the Mormons, nor anyone who does not believe as I do. BUT I dislike people who undeservedly hold some people to a higher standard than they deserve. And they berate other people who do not deserve it.

So, that's what I do. Most people don't have the time or inclination to research the truth...I do. And I'm just trying to pass on to others what I learn. It's not to be mean, and it's not to try to anger people....it's to bring out the truths that I KNOW and some people do not.

What I spend hours, days, and even weeks researching, you can just "click" on and read in a very short time. And I do this because God has put a LOVE FOR IT in my heart and soul....and I can do nothing else.

And because of what I do...and say...people do not like me when I conflict with their own beliefs. If their beliefs do not come from Scripture, I will point it out. It angers people. But I always remember what Jesus said in Matthew 10:22:

"And Ye shall be HATED of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."

I understand that verse now. And as long as God gives me the Spirit and the courage to continue doing this, I will do so.

And I thank Steven for allowing me to do it, just as he allows others to voice their opinions as well. It is a learning experience for all of us....even me.


Arlene

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Arlene,
I agree with you concerning the church being people, and not big buildings with steeples on them. That is something I completely agree with you about, and I also have a problem with so many of the denominations changing doctrines to fit in with society. I still disagree with your views concerning the Jews though. These Zionists you are talking about are not ordinary God fearing Jews. I recognize that the Illuminati does exist, and is pushing their satanic plans for a one world government, one world economy, and one world religion. Concerning the Palestinians, I do not believe any of them are born again believers in Jesus Christ. They are definitely Muslims who are throwing rocks at the Israeli military, and are suicide bombers killing innocent people in Israel. There was never, ever a nation called Palestine, so the whole notion that Israel is occupying their country is garbage!

Kevin

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And, back to you, again, Kevin...

I rather chuckled at the term "God fearing Jews". They certainly don't believe in the God of the Bible because He is Jesus Christ. Have you not read I John 2:22-23?

"Who is a LIAR but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is ANTICHRIST that denieth the Father and the Son. (vs.23) WHOSOVER DENIETH THE SON, the same HATH NOT THE FATHER; (but) he that adcnowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."

So, if the Jews are so "God-fearing", which God do they fear? God, the Father, in the Bible has nothing to do with the Jews because they DENY the "Son of God"...Jesus Christ.

So much for that one.

As for your not believing that ANY Palestinians are Christians, maybe you'd better educate yourself on that one as well:

http://electronicintifada.net/content/christianity-palestine-misrepresentation-and-dispossession/6280


Piece of the article:


"It is not the Palestinian Muslim population that is responsible for the expropriation of more land for the construction of this 430-mile/700-kilometer separation barrier. It is not the Palestinian Muslim population that is responsible for the expansion of illegal settlements and the creation of a "Greater Jerusalem" depopulated of its Palestinian citizens. It is not the Palestinian Muslim population that is responsible for the checkpoints that obstruct mobility, nor the demolition of homes and other forms of collective punishment. It is not the Palestinian Muslim population that is responsible for the "one big prison" status of Gaza. It is not the Palestinian Muslim population that is responsible for this separation barrier that will become the de facto border of a "Palestinian State" composed of several isolated islands of land on roughly 40 to 50 percent of the West Bank. It is not the Palestinian Muslim population that will be responsible for, absent a viable, contiguous Palestinians state, the "reservation" life that will parallel the Native North American experience in the United States. No, it is the ongoing Israeli structure of occupation and dispossession that continues to devastate Palestinian livelihood for both Christian and Muslim alike.

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Before 1948 there was no such thing as a "State of Israel" or a "Nation of Israel" in the Middle East. But there WERE people, who called themselves "Palestinians" living in that land. It was land controlled by the British, and the U.N. Mandate gave Jews permission to go live there....even though there were already "Palestinians" living there.

Remember the "Palestinian Liberation Organization" that made headline news way back "when" some of us "senior citizens" were still kids?

But, if you try to define "Palestine" as a definite nation, you will get nothing but "gobbledygook" for an answer. Istanbul was once called "Constantinople", so what difference does that make? The people who were living in that land before 1948 have been KICKED OFF THE LAND AND PERSECUTED because the JEWS WANT THEIR LAND (because the U.N. said they could have it).

If someone came to your home and said the U.N. said they could occupy your home (without your permission), would you calmly agree with it and move to another place? THIS IS THE SAME KIND OF SITUATION.

I got this piece from Wikipedia on "Palestine" definition:

The history of a distinct Palestinian national identity is a disputed issue amongst scholars.[31] Legal historian Assaf Likhovski states that the prevailing view is that Palestinian identity originated in the early decades of the twentieth century.[31] "Palestinian" was used to refer to the nationalist concept of a Palestinian people by the Arabs of Palestine in a limited way until World War I.[21][22] The first demand for national independence of the Levant was issued by the Syrian–Palestinian Congress on 21 September 1921.[32] After the creation of the State of Israel, the exodus of 1948, and more so after the exodus of 1967, the term came to signify not only a place of origin, but also the sense of a shared past and future in the form of a Palestinian state.[21] According to Rashid Khalidi, the modern Palestinian people now understand their identity as encompassing the heritage of all ages from biblical times up to the Ottoman period.[33]
Founded in 1964, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) is an umbrella organization for groups that represent the Palestinian people before the international community.[34] The Palestinian National Authority, officially established as a result of the Oslo Accords, is an interim administrative body nominally responsible for governance in Palestinian population centers in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

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I hope you are gaining some insight to the truth...

Arlene

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FOR FAIR USE AND EDUCATION AND DISCUSSION PURPOSES



Is anybody in the "body of Christ" committing this "unpardonable sin" today? That can only be answered by knowing what this "sin" is....

Many, many definitions....very lengthy and unclear....have been given for this term. However, this one site gives a no-nonsense, and very understandable explanation in definition.


The Unpardonable Sin

Pieces of the article containing the "bottom line"...

"According to the text, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (the unpardonable sin) is attributing a work of God to Satan, or attributing a work of Satan to God. Blasphemy is to speak injuriously."

"Can the Holy Spirit be blasphemed today? YES. Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is when a person knows God did a certain work, but he attributes that work of God to Satan, or when a person knows Satan did a certain work, but he attributes that work of Satan to God. Both Satan and God are working today - are they not?"

http://www.independencebaptist.org/bible%20outlines/Matthew/12v22-32.htm


Today, many Christians interpret Daniel 9:27 as being the "antichrist" confirming a covenant with many when determining to whom the "he" refers. This verse is being interpreted as a "peace treaty for 7 years" being signed between the Antichrist and the Jews (National Israel).

Does hearing the truth of this verse change anyone's mind? And is believing what others say, and not what the Bible tells you, a form of "blaspheming the Holy Spirit"? This is actually attributing to the "antichrist" what Jesus Christ did.



This "blogspot" gives a good understanding of what is being done:


http://www.watchmanscry.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17039


How serious a mistake is this? Only each individual can answer that one. But knowing that it can be accounted as such a great error to merit eternal consequences is well worth considering.


Arlene

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