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Bruce Warner: THE 'TWO PARTS' OF GOD'S WRATH ON EARTH ARE TOLD TO US IN THE SCRIPTURES........

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PER EMAIL FROM BRUCE WARNER



THE 'TWO PARTS' OF GOD'S WRATH ON EARTH ARE TOLD TO US IN THE SCRIPTURES........




The FIRST PART of God's wrath on earth is focused on ISRAEL ONLY as told to us in Luke 21:22-23
"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled........in those days, for there will be great tribulation in the land and WRATH UPON THIS PEOPLE."


The great tribulation is God's wrath which is focused ONLY UPON the land and "THIS PEOPLE" OF ISRAEL as described in Matthew 24:21
"For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world...."


Jesus then shortens the great tribulation of Israel to SAVE THE FLESH OF THE HEBREW REMNANT as described in Mark 13:20
"And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved...."


God then PROTECTS THE FLESH of the Hebrew remnant in the wilderness for the next 1,260 days of GOD'S WRATH UPON THE WHOLE WORLD as described in Rev 12:6
"Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she has a PLACE PREPARED BY GOD, that they should feed her there for 1,260 days."


The SECOND PART of God's wrath on earth IS UPON THE WHOLE WORLD after the "shortened" great tribulation of God's wrath upon the land and the people of Israel is ended. The great tribulation of Israel is ended on the 'Day of Christ' when Jesus saves the flesh of the Hebrew remnant AND raptures the souls of His Gentile Church to heaven. Then after these two groups are safely in their appointed places, Jesus then opens the Seventh Seal which begins the 1,260 day/42 month last-half of the 70th Week of Daniel which is THE SECOND PART OF GOD'S WRATH UPON THE WHOLE WORLD according to Rev 3;10
".......I will also keep you from the HOUR OF TRIAL which shall come upon THE WHOLE WORLD, to test those who dwell on the earth."


His Gentile Church and His Hebrew remnant will NOT BE TESTED ON EARTH during the 1,260 day/42 month last-half of the 70th Week of Daniel because His Church is in heaven and His remnant is in a protected place in the wilderness. The rapture of His Church happens 'mid-week' AFTER the great tribulation of Israel, but BEFORE the "hour of trial" of God's wrath upon the whole world.




According to Your Word, come Lord Jesus !


Bruce Warner, Scripturalist




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Re: Bruce Warner: THE 'TWO PARTS' OF GOD'S WRATH ON EARTH ARE TOLD TO US IN THE SCRIPTURES.......


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Do you actually UNDERSTAND what you write, Mr. Warner?

IF you are a "Scripturalist", than that is ONE THING NO CHRISTIAN SHOULD STRIVE FOR.

In your last posting, you claim that the "Tribulation" is only going to be for 30 days.


Here is part of what you wrote:


"So you see, within the 30-day period of time between the abomination being set up at 1,290 days and the Hebrew remnant beginning their 1,260 days THE GREAT TRIBULATION BEGINS AND ENDS. The great tribulation is a short, but terrible, event focused on Israel because of their accepting the anti-Christ and rejecting Jesus Christ as explained in:


John 5:42-44
"But I know you, that YOU DO NOT HAVE the love of God in you. I have come in My Father's name, and YOU DO NOT RECEIVE ME; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive."


So you see, the great tribulation of Israel is 30-days or less in duration, and Jesus ends it to save the flesh of the Hebrew remnant for the 1,260 day last-half of the 70th Week of Daniel JUST BEFORE He raptures His Church to heaven so the following Scripture is true:"





Now, you are mixing up "God's wrath" with the "Tribulation".....or do even know the DIFFERENCE between the two?



Here is another quote from you:


The SECOND PART of God's wrath on earth IS UPON THE WHOLE WORLD after the "shortened" great tribulation of God's wrath upon the land and the people of Israel is ended. The great tribulation of Israel is ended on the 'Day of Christ' when Jesus saves the flesh of the Hebrew remnant AND raptures the souls of His Gentile Church to heaven. Then after these two groups are safely in their appointed places, Jesus then opens the Seventh Seal which begins the 1,260 day/42 month last-half of the 70th Week of Daniel which is THE SECOND PART OF GOD'S WRATH UPON THE WHOLE WORLD according to Rev 3;10
".......I will also keep you from the HOUR OF TRIAL which shall come upon THE WHOLE WORLD, to test those who dwell on the earth."


His Gentile Church and His Hebrew remnant will NOT BE TESTED ON EARTH during the 1,260 day/42 month last-half of the 70th Week of Daniel because His Church is in heaven and His remnant is in a protected place in the wilderness. The rapture of His Church happens 'mid-week' AFTER the great tribulation of Israel, but BEFORE the "hour of trial" of God's wrath upon the whole world.




WHAT DID YOU EVEN SAY? And what is a "Gentile Church"??? Because I know that there is no such thing as a "Jewish Church"...unless it is called a "Synagogue" (which is not a church, it is a "SYNAGOGUE"). The "Church" is the "body of Christ" who are BELIEVERS. Jews DO NOT BELIEVE. Gentiles DO NOT BELIEVE.

Once ANYONE (Jew or Gentile) becomes a part of the "church" or "body of Christ", they are considered BY GOD to be "Spiritual Jews" because they have been "circumcised in the heart" and they are part of the "CHURCH" the moment they are saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ.

Romans 2:29..."For he is a JEW, which is one inwardly; and CIRCUMCISION is that of the HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, and NOT in the flesh."

God DOES NOT have a SEPARATE "Tribulation" and/or "wrath" for DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE. Everyone is ONE of TWO "Groups"....SAVED OR UNSAVED:

Gentiles and Jews = unsaved
Christians (believers) = saved


1. The SAVED......Everyone IN THE BODY OF CHRIST (Church) including ANYONE from any nation, race, religion, or gender, including Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Athiests, Buddhists, Roman Catholics, New Agers, Satanists, Masons, the Illuminati, etc. They are saved because they now have faith in Jesus Christ for salvation. They have REPENTED from their previous UNBELIEF.

2. The UNSAVED....EVERYONE ELSE!!! And this includes every race, gender, nationality.....of everyone else on earth.

Romans 2:11..."For there is no respect of persons with God." God does NOT show favoritism for ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE above other groups....including Jews.


EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE ON EARTH will go through "trial and testing" by God to prove their worthiness of the KINGDOM OF GOD in order to "rule and reign" with Jesus Christ in HIS KINGDOM. This is called "tribulation".

[If there is a special time of extreme "Tribulation", according the the Book of Revelation ALONE, it will be a period of 1260 days, 42 months, or "time, times, and half a time" or 3 1/2 years......NOT 30 DAYS]

God's TIME OF WRATH WILL BE ON ALL UNBELIEVERS AFTER ALL WHO HAVE COME TO BELIEVE ARE REMOVED FROM THE EARTH....see I Cor. 15:52, I Thess.4:16-17, and Matthew 24:31.

There is NO OTHER SALVATION PLAN for ANYONE ELSE.....unless you are reading a Bible which was NOT written by God, but by men. And in that case, you are not a believer in the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST...you are a believer in "another gospel".

We are warned of this in II Corinthians 11:4..." For if he that cometh (Wescott, Hort, Scofield) preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or ANOTHER GOSPEL, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him."

Perhaps you might re-think your theology, Mr. Warner....

Arlene