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Marilyn Agee (19 June 2013)
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From: Marilyn Agee
Hi:

I wrote:

Here is where I DIFFER with this author that wrote about the Rabbi's prophecies:

"If this Sabbatical Messianic cycle 2009-2017 is completed and the GogUMogog war does begin within the year between Rosh Hashanah 2015 to Rosh Hashanah 2016, then the Messianic Era will commence before Rosh Hashanah 2017. We are currently in the 4th year of the Sabbatical Messianic Cycle that began on Rosh Hashanah 2009, in the Jewish year 5773 (2013)."

I THINK the Gog and Magog War will start, and end, on the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, Mon. Sept. 14, 2015.

I expect the Jubilee to be announced on the following Day of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015. Every wall will have fallen, so the Israelites will construct booths to live in by Tabernacles, Sept. 28, 2015.

There are 7 months between Tishri 1 and Nisan 1, 5776, because 5776 is a Leap Year with 13 months.


> Marilyn, I have never had those seven months that Israel buries the dead > from the Gog & Magog war fit a time-line and explained like it did with > yours. Thank you.


I appreciate your letting me know.

Eze 39:12,13 says, "And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. 13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD."

I just figured that when Christ will be glorified after they bury the bodies has to be at the Second Advent when he "shall sit in THE THRONE OF HIS GLORY".

Mat_19:28 says, "Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in THE THRONE OF HIS GLORY, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."


> 2000 - 2016 is the estimated time that Gill Broussard has named when > Planet X (7x) will do it's work upon earth.


I don't think there is a "Planet X". To me, what will obliterate Babylon near the Euphrates River and turn the world upside down is Satan's asteroid Wormwood, a piece of his former planet Rahab, now our Asteroid Belt.

Isa 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (i.e., the Son of God, Isa 53:1); awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (lit., split) Rahab, and wounded the dragon (Satan)?"

This indicates that Satan and his fallen angels have already been judged. They must have appealed the sentence, saying the God was unfair in his sentencing them to jail. It looks like God created Adam a little lower than the angels to prove to Satan that he was just in sentencing them to jail.

If Adam, weaker than the angels, and who could not see God, could still obey him, he would be just in sentencing the angels, who could see God and failed to obey him, to prison. It looks like man's trial may end on the Feast of Trumpets in 2015.

Rev 8:10,11 says, "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star (aster, star, meteorite, or asteroid) from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And THE NAME OF THE STAR IS CALLED WORMWOOD: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

Isa 22:5 says, "For it is a day of trouble, and of treading down, and of perplexity by the Lord GOD of hosts in the valley of vision, breaking down the walls, and of crying to the mountains."

Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? and whom hast thou here, that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."


> I would love to know what your best idea would be for when the Harpzo of > the Born-Again Believers would take place?


The harpazo is the DEPARTING called the Rapture, and the timing of the First-Trump Rapture is the thing that no one has been able to figure out yet. I think the Last-Trump Rapture will be the Feast of Trumpets, Mon. Sept 14, 2015, Day of the Lord, Day of God's Wrath. Since the trumpet sounds at both, maybe both are on the Feast of Trumpets.

According to Dan 8:13,14, the Tribulation totals 2300 days.

2300 - 1260-day first half = 1040-day shortened last half.

Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015, minus 2300 days is Dec. 22, 2009, beginning of the Tribulation.

Dec. 22, 2009 + 1260 days = Thurs. June 4, 2013, Mid-Trib.

Rev 12:12-14 says, "Woe (ouai) to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that HE HATH BUT A SHORT TIME. 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time (approximately 3.5 years), from the face of the serpent."

The War in Heaven may have started Mid-Trib. The Christians in Jerusalem have not yet fled to Petra, but some have left Israel.

If the man who said the Rapture would be on Thursday is right, the First-Trump Rapture might be on TRUMPETS, Thur. Sept. 5, 2013, two years before the Last-Trump Rapture on Mon. Sept. 14, 2015.

Who ever thought we would be here this long? I sure didn't. However, maybe the number of saved has to equal the number of angels who were lost. If it depends on a number, the Rapture could take place at any time.

Agape,
Marilyn Agee
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Gerlinda (15 June 2013)
"Marilyn Agee, regarding Jubilee Year"


Hi Marilyn,


It is so encouraging to read your post of the end of the Jubilee Cycle ending in the Sabbatical Year in Nissan 2015, which announces the beginning of the next Jubillee Cycle

You wrote:

"If this Sabbatical Messianic cycle 2009-2017 is completed and the Gog & Mogog war does begin within the year between Rosh Hashanah 2015 to Rosh Hashanah 2016, then the Messianic Era will commence before Rosh Hashanah 2017. We are currently in the 4th year of the Sabbatical Messianic Cycle that began on Rosh Hashanah 2009, in the Jewish year 5773 (2013)."

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2013/marilyna613-1.htm

Marilyn, I have never had those seven months that Israel buries the dead from the Gog & Magog war fit a time-line and explained like it did with yours. Thank you.

2000 - 2016 is the estimated time that Gill Broussard has named when Planet X (7x) will do it's work upon earth.

I would love to know what your best idea would be for when the Harpzo of the Born-Again Believers would take place? We know it no longer fits a pre-tribulation time line of happening prior to the last seven years for Israel as the teaching most of us were taught for so long. Would it be at the end of the Sabbatical Year in Nissan 2015? Could that be the time line where the Great Multitude in White Robes would be seen before the throne as described in Revelation 7:9-10? Or, hopefully some huge worldly catastrophe this year, in 2013 would bring in on.

Appreciate your answer and thank you,
gerlinda






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